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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.07 17:25:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Question--What are the fixes to backpedal and strafe speed that I've been hearing about? There are no fixes. The majority of us have an agreement that 100% backwards movement speed is absolutely stupid and has no reason to exist in DUST 514. Reducing backwards movement ratio will result in higher performance of Nova Knives and Shotguns where people can just backpedal their way out of your range. CCP LogiBro and CCP Rattati don't think it should be changed because, "it would affect too many things at once." Regardless of whether it would be good for the game as a whole or not, they only want to make direct changes to improve performance rather than indirect ones that would make the game better in its entirety.
I hate getting gunned down by scrubs who just backpedal and hip fire while i try to slash them.
If they aren't gonna fix backpedal, i want a 1 second "sprint charge" where you keep your forward momentum (even sprinting) for 1 second while you charge
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.07 17:50:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:
I hate getting gunned down by scrubs who just backpedal and hip fire while i try to slash them.
If they aren't gonna fix backpedal, i want a 1 second "sprint charge" where you keep your forward momentum (even sprinting) for 1 second while you charge
Backpedal speed should be reduced on its own merits, though the 25% increase to range will likely help.
Just might fix the bunnyhop / HD issues :-)
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3775
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Posted - 2014.08.07 18:25:00 -
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Ideally what sort of nerf to backpedal speed would you envision?
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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Cass Caul
361
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Posted - 2014.08.07 18:37:00 -
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90% would put it at the same speed at strafe speed.
85% would be more desirable and better felt in-game.
The only time you see games with 100% movement speed, their melee weapons also have a lunge feature. This is the only FPS with the worst of both options.
If you can't keep up, shut up.
Math is easy, you're just stupid.
The Empress of Alts
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mollerz
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Posted - 2014.08.07 18:51:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Ideally what sort of nerf to backpedal speed would you envision?
30% reduction in speed, plus a huge hip fire penalty.
Dingle Dust Berry.
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Cass Caul
362
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Posted - 2014.08.07 18:56:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Ideally what sort of nerf to backpedal speed would you envision? 30% reduction in speed, plus a huge hip fire penalty.
No, no, no, molerz. We've all already given up on any hope for dust to be a good game. Low-hanging fruit, man, aim for a good-enough game.
If you can't keep up, shut up.
Math is easy, you're just stupid.
The Empress of Alts
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mollerz
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Posted - 2014.08.07 18:59:00 -
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Somebody's gotta tell it to them as blunt as possible. This is not something to tip toe around.
Imagine if gun fights got a bit slower and more tactical instead of everyone walking around in circles at the same speed no matter the direction.
you know what other bad ass game sports movement like that besides dust?
Pac man.
I'll accept Mrs.Pac man as an answer as well.
Dingle Dust Berry.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
6169
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Posted - 2014.08.07 19:15:00 -
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I shall be returning to play Charlie for a bit.
I'm actually pretty excited to see my Min Scout be dampened decently again 
FA's Stabber Extraordinaire
Minmatar Enthusiast
Explosions and Bulletstorm? Count me in!
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dzizur
6 dayz
53
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Posted - 2014.08.07 19:16:00 -
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if we cannot get backpedal speed reduction, give me backwards sprint :P
and welcome back ninjas, I have not posted here since it was moved from general discussion :P |
mollerz
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Posted - 2014.08.07 19:33:00 -
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CCP Ratatati says NK fitting op skill is still coming.
I think that skill would alleviate the need for PG requirements on the suit. Not in all cases, and it pushes a minja to use knives even more. I know some see that as a bad thing.
But ti would work if you ran knives.
I also am keen on the fact sidearm dam mods give more of a bonus than L or H.
This might be slightly unpopular, but it had been talked about in the old days, and I feel like with all these hot patches it's worth revisiting.
The switch from sidearm damage mods to myros affecting nova knives. KNives are a melee attack, despite the plasma. On a minja it would be poetic as it paired with the melee bonus.
Thoughts?
Dingle Dust Berry.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3185
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Posted - 2014.08.07 19:35:00 -
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So I read someone else saying how they created an alt to learn how to fly an assault dropship in the Academy.
This is the story of Cyclops Rex:
Cyclops Rex wrote:Hey One Eye, I could use some cash to help me buy some skill books and an ADS so I can learn to fly that thing. Think you could help me out?
*One Eyed King generously donates ISK to Cyclops Rex*
Cyclops Rex wrote:Sooo.... I was able to get skilled up and take my first ADS flight...
One Eyed King wrote:Sweet! You probably should have taken a regular dropship out for your first spin, but how did it go?
Cyclops Rex wrote:...
Can you send more ISK?
One Eyed King wrote:You dumb ass.
FIN
This is how a minja feels
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3185
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Posted - 2014.08.07 19:38:00 -
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mollerz wrote:CCP Ratatati says NK fitting op skill is still coming.I think that skill would alleviate the need for PG requirements on the suit. Not in all cases, and it pushes a minja to use knives even more. I know some see that as a bad thing. But ti would work if you ran knives. I also am keen on the fact sidearm dam mods give more of a bonus than L or H. This might be slightly unpopular, but it had been talked about in the old days, and I feel like with all these hot patches it's worth revisiting. The switch from sidearm damage mods to myros affecting nova knives. KNives are a melee attack, despite the plasma. On a minja it would be poetic as it paired with the melee bonus. Thoughts?
While it makes total sense, it would limit the benefits of running the dual side arm fits with side arm damage mods.
I am not saying I would be for or against it, as I generally don't use those myself, but it is just a thought.
This is how a minja feels
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mollerz
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Posted - 2014.08.07 19:44:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:
While it makes total sense, it would limit the benefits of running the dual side arm fits with side arm damage mods.
I am not saying I would be for or against it, as I generally don't use those myself, but it is just a thought.
That would be one side of the coin. IMHO, one way makes more sense. You even see newberry wave after newberry wave make that mistake and skill myro because they (rightly) equated knives with a melee attack (because it is a melee attack).
Language should be clear. Things should fit.
Plus, I don't know anyone that would hold onto that dual bonus so hard when you gained a punch bonus. It could revolutionize the way you knife... mixing in punches with slashes. I used to do that when the slash bug was prevalent.
Both have aim adhesion now as well. So it would hopefully work better than it did in the past.
Dingle Dust Berry.
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mollerz
4721
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Posted - 2014.08.07 19:47:00 -
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Also, looks like it's time to start skilling into caldari assault
busts out his RAVEN c-1
Dingle Dust Berry.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1903
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Posted - 2014.08.07 19:51:00 -
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Guys i just made some stuff on proto fits.....check it out if you want.
Its kinda scary how good assaults are gonna be next patch, I really am hoping that they don't become FoTM
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.08.07 19:54:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Guys i just made some stuff on proto fits.....check it out if you want.
Its kinda scary how good assaults are gonna be next patch, I really am hoping that they don't become FoTM
As long as they aren't annoyingly OP, better them than us.
This is how a minja feels
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mollerz
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:00:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Guys i just made some stuff on proto fits.....check it out if you want.
Its kinda scary how good assaults are gonna be next patch, I really am hoping that they don't become FoTM
You can take it to the bank
Dingle Dust Berry.
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dzizur
6 dayz
55
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:01:00 -
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honestly I hope assaults will be uber-slayers, I'm wating for those calscout tears :)
apart from that.. i love challenges, and I'm too broke to take part in PC so that only leaves me with pub protostompers and q-synced fw ;) |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:07:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: I really am hoping that they don't become FoTM
Slayers should be drawn to Assault frames rather than Logi, Scout or Heavy frames.
As I see it, we want them to be FotM.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:16:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Ideally what sort of nerf to backpedal speed would you envision?
It doesn't have to be much. Somewhere between 85% and 90% of forward movement should do the trick.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:30:00 -
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Can I get a consensus that 90% backpedal speed would be affable? tweak it further if needed?
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:31:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Can I get a consensus that 90% backpedal speed would be affable? tweak it further if needed?
Its a good start.
This is how a minja feels
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:32:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Can I get a consensus that 90% backpedal speed would be affable? tweak it further if needed?
90% would be a great start.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Zatara Rought
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3786
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:34:00 -
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Okie dokie thanks guys!
B3RT > PFBHz > TEAM > MHPD > IMPS > FA
They call me ~Princess Zatata~
Skype: Zatara.Rought Twitter: @ZataraRought
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mollerz
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:39:00 -
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What about 90% and a penalty to hip fire to start?
Dingle Dust Berry.
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
1524
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:42:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Can I get a consensus that 90% backpedal speed would be affable? tweak it further if needed? 90% would be a great start.
Yep, I would make it the same or less than strafe speed. Whatever that number may be.
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:42:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Ideally what sort of nerf to backpedal speed would you envision? It doesn't have to be much. Somewhere between 85% and 90% of forward movement should do the trick.
should of said 80-85% XD
Ikid. Good to see, there is finally some talk of it.
Also really digging the threads I've glimpsed over from a couple calscouts. XD
J0LLY is a Streaker
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IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
1524
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:43:00 -
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J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Ideally what sort of nerf to backpedal speed would you envision? It doesn't have to be much. Somewhere between 85% and 90% of forward movement should do the trick. should of said 80-85% XD Ikid. Good to see, there is finally some talk of it. Also really digging the threads I've glimpsed over from a couple calscouts. XD
Oh I will still run my cal scout, it will be a slayer suit thats damped, amarr will be new FoTM for scouts considering it will force people to dampen as low as they can with only two slots.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:48:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote: only reducing KinCats, Codebreakers, and Nova Knives by 1 PG each at PRO level.
ugh meh is that gonna be enough? Sheesh.
And your assault protofit - 1455 eHP - what the **** really!? Wow. Slow as balls though.
mollerz wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Guys i just made some stuff on proto fits.....check it out if you want.
Its kinda scary how good assaults are gonna be next patch, I really am hoping that they don't become FoTM You can take it to the bank
MUA HA HAH HA YES GET OUT SCRUBS.
mollerz wrote:In depth analysis of previous discussions? Hot fix Delta debates?
Nova knife adhesion glitch - heavies can be ridden.
Zatara Rought wrote:Can I get a consensus that 90% backpedal speed would be affable? tweak it further if needed?
Abso-bloody-lutely
Progress is progress :)
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.08.07 20:55:00 -
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IgniteableAura wrote:
Oh I will still run my cal scout, it will be a slayer suit thats damped, amarr will be new FoTM for scouts considering it will force people to dampen as low as they can with only two slots.
Ran strictly shields / regulators on a Ck.0 for a dozen or so matches. It was OK, but I got slammed by AR users and outright r*ped by ScR users. It'll make for a decent shotgunning suit once better dampened, but I don't think it'll match wits with actual slayer assaults. We'll see :-)
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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