Can we ban people from threads?

Can we ban people from threads?

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Don't be sad, just stop saying stupid things :-)

Hey! I thought it was smart.

Ok so everything outside of the min bonuses were stupid. Fine

but seriously, what do you think about the min bonus to kin cats? I think its perfect for fixing it

Your bonus (A) is absurdly large by comparison to others and (B) would lend itself to bullet-weaving.
And you should get rid of that signature; its awful.

So people rejected my idea a long time ago about changing the sprint modifier on Scouts from 1.4 to 1.7 and then limiting the KinCat to 1 per suit.
People were like, "you can't limit the number of times a module is used!" Until I noted that it was already precedent in Afterbruners.
Then people nit-picked that it couldn't be done because that is something on vehicles and not dropsuits.

But now that cloaks are limited to 1 per suit it means code for such a thing already exists.

Amarr Scout: 5.25 base; Max skills & 4 Complex KinCats: 10.7
Caldari: 5.45 base; Max skills & 2 Complex KinCats: 10.01
Gallente: 5.45 base; Max skills & 4 Complex KinCats: 11.11
Minmatar: 5.6 base; Max skills & 3 Complex KinCats: 11.12

Modified
Amarr: 5.25 base; Max Skills & 1 KinCat: 10.55
Caldari: 5.45 base; Max Skills & 1 KinCat: 10.95
Gallente: 5.45 base; Max Skills & 1 KinCat: 10.95
Minmatar: 5.6 base; Max Skills & 1 KinCat: 11.26

IMO this would be a terrible time to present this in a feedback thread, but I'm bringing it up here again just because it's been on my mind again

And you should get rid of that signature; its awful.

I second this. Get rid of your signature Gav. Its awful and makes people think you are a terrible person.

My eye!!!

And I just ate...

See my sig, its better.

Ghost and other flaylock masters. This guy thinks he is the true flaylock master. I smell a thunderdome challenge.

So people rejected my idea a long time ago about changing the sprint modifier on Scouts from 1.4 to 1.7 and then limiting the KinCat to 1 per suit.
People were like, "you can't limit the number of times a module is used!" Until I noted that it was already precedent in Afterbruners.
Then people nit-picked that it couldn't be done because that is something on vehicles and not dropsuits.

But now that cloaks are limited to 1 per suit it means code for such a thing already exists.

Amarr Scout: 5.25 base; Max skills & 4 Complex KinCats: 10.7
Caldari: 5.45 base; Max skills & 2 Complex KinCats: 10.01
Gallente: 5.45 base; Max skills & 4 Complex KinCats: 11.11
Minmatar: 5.6 base; Max skills & 3 Complex KinCats: 11.12

Modified
Amarr: 5.25 base; Max Skills & 1 KinCat: 10.55
Caldari: 5.45 base; Max Skills & 1 KinCat: 10.95
Gallente: 5.45 base; Max Skills & 1 KinCat: 10.95
Minmatar: 5.6 base; Max Skills & 1 KinCat: 11.26

IMO this would be a terrible time to present this in a feedback thread, but I'm bringing it up here again just because it's been on my mind again

@ Appia
I like it :-)

@ Gav
There's nothing imbalanced about a Scout sprinting at ~11 m/s.
hat said, we don't know if there's a "hard cap" in place or not, and I don't think we can sell a +50% bonus.

Ghost and other flaylock masters. This guy thinks he is the true flaylock master. I smell a thunderdome challenge.

suggestion: a will-it-blend spoof

Well ghost kaiser had a good point when he commented on it; its balanced because its a large PERCENTAGE bonus to a SMALL percent, making it very low. Also, i don't believe it would contribute to bullet weaving as there would be a speed cap which is what the soft cap is right now, and with my 3 KC min scout right now, i can't bullet weave (though I may just be plain terribad)

The real idea behind this is that the min scout doesn't have to sacrifice speed to get dampening to levels that are on par with other suits.

The real question is, is this overpowered or balanced?

Ghost. I need to squad with you and run a FW match so we can flaylock duel.

Yeah, the percent is large, but that's because it needs to be large to have any effect.


We're talking about doing a percentage increase on modules that provide 5-12% bonus on stats that range from 7-8.

The bonuses are terribly small. They need to be larger if you want them to serve a purpose.

That being said: 50% is too high. That makes them give a 44.5% Increase to sprint speed at Proto.

With 8.31 being the base, that makes it 12m/s

Work in Reverse. Make 11m/s the desired.

Divide by 8.31 to get the multiple needed to achieve with a single module.

1.32, So we need a single kincat to hit 32%.

32 / 12.7 = 2.52 = ~150%

150 / 5 = 30% Efficacy per level.

Of course, this only works if you limit Kincats to one per suit, or introduce a speed cap.

Breach Flaylock, M-I Assault?

Sounds like a plan.

Stripped Fitting except for Nanohives.

We'll need them.

Hmmm...something tells me your math is wrong (no offense to you whatsoever), as I ran the calculations on my calculator just a few minutes ago.

Calculation should look like- 7.91*1.05*(1+(.12*1.05*(1+(x/100)))

where x=bonus in percent

Remember, its multiplying the PERCENT, not the multiplier as a whole, which, I believe, is what your math did. (didn't actually look over it so I may be wrong)

What we get with a 50% bonus per level (or 250% max), is as follows:

7.91*1.05*(1+(.12*1.05*3.5)))=11.96

Oh wait, i was off the first time i did it-i put 2.5 instead of 3.5

So lets try this again, shall we?

so well put my first eqn 7.91*1.05*(1+(.12*1.05*(1+(x/100)))=11.12

Then we use algebra and solve for x

Easy

So, we get x=~175% at level 5. So, per level, the bonus should be 35%, not 50 as i originally stated (sorry guys )