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Gh0st C0de
Spirit Collective
113
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:22:00 -
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In true scout fashion I'm posting this stealthily while in a laboratory. I swear it won't result in anything blowing up.
I'm excited to go test out this new patch after so long away from World of Tanks, er... I mean Dust.
However, the QQ is legendary! As someone who's been scouting for the past year, barring my two month hiatus, what's the scout-to-scout opinion on cloaks and the new suits?
I normally run a Gal Scout and fit a SG or RR since it became available, I prowl about the objectives and try to pick off reds swiftly before they can notice I'm there. To this end I take out the SG for smaller areas and the RR for open spaces. As my focus is on going unnoticed should I just stick with my trusty Gal Scout... or doe the new suits offer something substantial in the way of true assassination?
Or should I give up and run a Cal Assault Lite? |
Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
1088
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:33:00 -
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Gh0st C0de wrote: As my focus is on going unnoticed should I just stick with my trusty Gal Scout... or doe the new suits offer something substantial in the way of true assassination?
Meh, I think its sameold, sameold, as yet. Like shields? run cal. Like armor? run Gal. Like running.. run minmatar There's all your choices. There is no 4th scout suit
Quote: Or should I give up and run a Cal Assault Lite?
Joiinn UUuuusssssssss.....
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
996
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:36:00 -
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The Gal scout (In my opinion) is better than it's ever been, cloaks are nifty, but nowhere near as deadly as the naysayers had claimed they would be. Excellent for infiltration (as you might guess) my favourite use so far is ghost hacking.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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mollerz
2900
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:43:00 -
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it's really hard to fit a minja.
PG problems.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2579
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:44:00 -
[11945] - Quote
mollerz wrote:it's really hard to fit a minja.
PG problems.
so true
KRRROOOOOOM
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3737
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:55:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:it's really hard to fit a minja.
PG problems.
so true
Can Confirm
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3737
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:57:00 -
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Spademan wrote:The Gal scout (In my opinion) is better than it's ever been, cloaks are nifty, but nowhere near as deadly as the naysayers had claimed they would be. Excellent for infiltration (as you might guess) my favourite use so far is ghost hacking.
My god.
I hack so fast with a single Complex Codebreaker on my Min scout.
I'm in love.
I think I'm just gonna start running my fit non slayer style.
I want around 10-15 kills a match with 1-3 deaths, all while gaining 1500 + WP a match.
I think it's possible with a good Speed Stealth Hack suit
ALSO: I can run a triage rep tool on my scout
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
772
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:58:00 -
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mollerz wrote:it's really hard to fit a minja.
PG problems.
I think the CPU/PG is way imbalanced. I even added a basic PG enhancer, and I have loads of CPU to spare but still no PG
Looking for the scout hangout?
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mollerz
2901
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Posted - 2014.03.25 18:58:00 -
[11949] - Quote
Basically-
You HAVE to have engineering lv 5 or you are ******.
Even with that at 5- You are looking at either cloaking or speed tanking. But not both.
And I have to use precision/Dampeners because, well frankly, they use 0 PG and that is all I can fit! I don't even think it helps tho.
You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2579
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:00:00 -
[11950] - Quote
What's the verdict on Stamina recharge for the Minja, able to drop or downgrade the Card on them?
KRRROOOOOOM
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3740
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:01:00 -
[11951] - Quote
mollerz wrote:Basically-
You HAVE to have engineering lv 5 or you are ******.
Even with that at 5- You are looking at either cloaking or speed tanking. But not both.
And I have to use precision/Dampeners because, well frankly, they use 0 PG and that is all I can fit! I don't even think it helps tho.
Proto Damp will stop Cal Scouts from scanning you.
All except for those that run 3 complex Precision
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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Gh0st C0de
Spirit Collective
114
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:01:00 -
[11952] - Quote
Spademan wrote:The Gal scout (In my opinion) is better than it's ever been, cloaks are nifty, but nowhere near as deadly as the naysayers had claimed they would be. Excellent for infiltration (as you might guess) my favourite use so far is ghost hacking.
This pleases me... any great things to say about the best weapons to fit with the cloak? Is there any noticeable difference in how they interact with the cloak? Do all of the new weapons warrant ceaseless QQ or are they okay? Sorry to grill you, I'm excited. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3740
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:01:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:What's the verdict on Stamina recharge for the Minja, able to drop or downgrade the Card on them?
Drop it.
Stamina is no longer a problem.
AT ALL
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
773
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:02:00 -
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Once I started making a fit, the first thing I did was go lvl 5 in engineering, and it barely helped.
I think some of these PG costs are a little ridiculous too. Kincats take up waaaay to much PG for what they offer, especially compared to other modules.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
3740
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:06:00 -
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Gh0st C0de wrote:Spademan wrote:The Gal scout (In my opinion) is better than it's ever been, cloaks are nifty, but nowhere near as deadly as the naysayers had claimed they would be. Excellent for infiltration (as you might guess) my favourite use so far is ghost hacking. This pleases me... any great things to say about the best weapons to fit with the cloak? Is there any noticeable difference in how they interact with the cloak? Do all of the new weapons warrant ceaseless QQ or are they okay? Sorry to grill you, I'm excited.
Okay, storytime on the cloak today.
Scene: Gal Reserach Facility, Bravo Letter Time: Beginning of Match
I run up to B, and start my speed hack. Halfway through, I see a blip on my radar. I could finish in time, but I had a better plan.
I stop hacking, back up into the alcove and cloak.
Heavy walks up. Looks around. Looks at me, looks around some more.
Starts to hack.
ET TU HEAVY!?!
STAB STAB STAB.
Hack and continue on my way.
Story #2
Scene: Manus Peak DOM Time: Halfway through match.
I walk up to A and hack. I see blips on passive. Finish and run. Cloak as I turn corner. I peek back into the objective.
Squad of three walks up. One starts shooting at a target in the distance, and the other two hack.
+50 +50
So, #3 notices me. I see the scrambler, so I just book it and cloak as I run.
I turn the corner, and just STOP.
Turn and look.
The guy goes past the corner, and just starts spraying scrambler EVERYWHERE.
I laugh and just walk off.
Cloaks are so much fun
Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face.
I've got 3k likes, I'll double post if I want to dammit!
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
775
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:20:00 -
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Unfortunately, I only had time for one match before work.
My experience:
-First time I cloak, I think, this is awesome! Just before an unfazed red hits me with a blast of shotgun...
-I really hated the equipment wheel before 1.8, and now that I have 2 pieces of equipment this may be a prime sticking point for me. I am sure I will get somewhat better with it with some practice, but its going to really **** me off for a bit.
-I was still getting scanned, but at least it wasn't near as often.
-I did enjoy one moment where I was being shot at, cloaked, and the red who was crouched along the rail seemed to forget about me. Or crapped his pants. Either way, he got a couple knives in the back for his effort.
I can't wait to get some time to actually adapt, as these new builds always throw me for a loop, and I look forward to hearing stories from everyone else.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2580
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:23:00 -
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For the record I love Storytime
KRRROOOOOOM
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Not Iggy
Nos Nothi
91
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:40:00 -
[11958] - Quote
Yea I have been running precision in my highs to pick up cloaked scouts and ranges in my lows so I can see them way off. http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/382/2182
You don't need tank as you just stay cloaked. Scout playstyle is still maintained so its nothing new, just the fact you can sit in the middle of a field and wait for a whole group of dudes to walk right past you cloaked thinking they are "hot stuff"
IgniteableAura
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
998
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:51:00 -
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Gh0st C0de wrote:Spademan wrote:The Gal scout (In my opinion) is better than it's ever been, cloaks are nifty, but nowhere near as deadly as the naysayers had claimed they would be. Excellent for infiltration (as you might guess) my favourite use so far is ghost hacking. This pleases me... any great things to say about the best weapons to fit with the cloak? Is there any noticeable difference in how they interact with the cloak? Do all of the new weapons warrant ceaseless QQ or are they okay? Sorry to grill you, I'm excited.
If you want to fire as soon as you drop the cloak, then anything high damage without charge I'd say would be excellent. Like the shot gun, cloak, approach target, insta-switch and blap. The cloak drops at the switching part, which is why I recommend a non charge weapon, though I've heard Noki's can attack without breaking cloak, though I don't know how. I've fallen in love with the Ion pistol, though it doesn't appear to be popular. I've seen the others on occasion but nothing really stands out, the Magsec looks difficult to keep on target from what I've seen. So yeah, none of the new weapons seem to stand out on the battlefield.
Also, logi's think that I cant pick them up with my passive scans, it's so cute.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
998
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Posted - 2014.03.25 19:56:00 -
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Also, cloak story: Domination, everyone's locked up at a CRU, enemy controls it, bullets flying everywhere, not a vehicle in sight. I cloak, go up to the CRU, ghost-hack, move away, de cloak, they hack it back, I cloak, ghost-hack again, move back, de cloak, they hack it back again, the goes on another 3-4 times, distracting enough of them for my team-mates to make the break at gun them down, hack the point and win the match
Edit: Double posted like a Kaiser.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
268
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:11:00 -
[11961] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote:Llast 326 wrote:What's the verdict on Stamina recharge for the Minja, able to drop or downgrade the Card on them? Drop it. Stamina is no longer a problem. AT ALL
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1001
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:19:00 -
[11962] - Quote
Also, one last comment on the cloak, crouching while cloaked seems to dumbfound anyone who saw you cloak.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
2583
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:25:00 -
[11963] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Also, one last comment on the cloak, crouching while cloaked seems to dumbfound anyone who saw you cloak. Moody's Duck Walk of Death
KRRROOOOOOM
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
268
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:31:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:mollerz wrote:it's really hard to fit a minja.
PG problems.
I think the CPU/PG is way imbalanced. I even added a basic PG enhancer, and I have loads of CPU to spare but still no PG It forced me to have to give up my ScR for an ADV cloak. I didn't have enough time to play around with it because I wanted to get one game in before work, just because I HAD to hear what everyone is talking about.
ScR uses much PG
If you are maxxed out on Engineering and only a few over in PG - You can level up Optimiation
Its SP intensive but can save you about 4-5 PG
My plan is to use energizers and range or damp mods to hopefully minimize some of my PG output
Combat Rifle is your friend too - Republic Boundless only uses 4 PG
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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noob cavman
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
906
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:34:00 -
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Thought's. The bolt feels like a chrome breech scrambler. shotgun rof change is arse banging me. Hit detection feels off. ion is fecking lovely and a gk.0 sentinel found out how evil it is. magsec feels ehhhhh. cal commando looks like a bad 80s anime super hero. cr is still murdering everyone and may use it as a shotgun. my gk.0 scout is niiiiiiiiice.
its gonna take me a day or two of playing ****** to get in the groove. Till then im a free 50 points XD. Just remember this cavmans memory is long and he doesn't forgive.
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: DENIED YOU DRUNK
Oldest barbershop in new eden.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1882
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:41:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Scout CK.0 is the new Cal AssaultI wish I was kidding. Ran into a squad today that had two guys running the above with Boundless CR's. You could sneak up on them, hit them with a charge Ion, and then die as they tank the shot and kill you with a rifle. They literally ran it like an Assault the entire game. Makes me sick.
Your tears fuel my gallente scouts ferroscale plates.
Drop it like its hat.
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1882
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:43:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Loving the Ion pistol, been tearing it up out there with it.
Did you spec into sharpshooter?
Drop it like its hat.
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
1001
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:46:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Spademan wrote:Loving the Ion pistol, been tearing it up out there with it. Did you spec into sharpshooter?
Nah, the only two weapons I've gone past level 3 operation is the ScR and the SMG.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Spectral Clone
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
1882
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:48:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Spectral Clone wrote:Spademan wrote:Loving the Ion pistol, been tearing it up out there with it. Did you spec into sharpshooter? Nah, the only two weapons I've gone past level 3 operation is the ScR and the SMG.
Oh, but sharpshooter skill unlocks at lvl 1 operation.
Drop it like its hat.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
778
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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:53:00 -
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Master Smurf wrote:One Eyed King wrote:mollerz wrote:it's really hard to fit a minja.
PG problems.
I think the CPU/PG is way imbalanced. I even added a basic PG enhancer, and I have loads of CPU to spare but still no PG It forced me to have to give up my ScR for an ADV cloak. I didn't have enough time to play around with it because I wanted to get one game in before work, just because I HAD to hear what everyone is talking about. ScR uses much PG If you are maxxed out on Engineering and only a few over in PG - You can level up Optimiation Its SP intensive but can save you about 4-5 PG My plan is to use energizers and range or damp mods to hopefully minimize some of my PG output Combat Rifle is your friend too - Republic Boundless only uses 4 PG
But my CR is like that girl you are dating, which you really like, only to see the ScR, which makes you realize the girl you were dating really wasn't all that great, and you have no qualms about dumping her for the ScR.
I can't go back to the CR... I just can't.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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