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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
909
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Posted - 2013.08.05 20:26:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Ran REs for the first time today. I'm getting a kill or two per match, but the trigger/arming delay is annoying.
Remote Explosive Inquiry: 1) How much faster do the F/45s arm compared to Standard REs? 2) Are the Advanced & Proto REs worth the SP investment?
Thanks, Shotty
The advanced and proto REs are much faster but with the problems the re currently have that's pretty much the only benefit, It's one of those thing I'd say spec into only if you see yourself using it alot in the future because for now it's a bit hit and miss. |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
39
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Posted - 2013.08.05 20:55:00 -
[842] - Quote
Sinboto Simmons wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Ran REs for the first time today. I'm getting a kill or two per match, but the trigger/arming delay is annoying.
Remote Explosive Inquiry: 1) How much faster do the F/45s arm compared to Standard REs? 2) Are the Advanced & Proto REs worth the SP investment?
Thanks, Shotty
The advanced and proto REs are much faster but with the problems the re currently have that's pretty much the only benefit, It's one of those thing I'd say spec into only if you see yourself using it alot in the future because for now it's a bit hit and miss.
hit or miss is most everything in game. what works today might not work tomorrow
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
209
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:03:00 -
[843] - Quote
Shotty GoBang wrote:Ran REs for the first time today. I'm getting a kill or two per match, but the trigger/arming delay is annoying.
Remote Explosive Inquiry: 1) How much faster do the F/45s arm compared to Standard REs? 2) Are the Advanced & Proto REs worth the SP investment?
Thanks, Shotty
If you plan to use them against tanks, installations or any other kind of armour, then yes, having even just one extra explosive on the ground for it can mean the difference between a kill and severe damage.
For reference, 3 ADV RE's insta kill a tank with 1000 shields and 5000 armour when directly beneath said tank. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
511
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:04:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:hit or miss is most everything in game. what works today might not work tomorrow Yeah, I'm having problems with 'em fizzling out. Kinda like nanohives when dropped on a slope. Anyhow, I'm gonna stick with my Scanner. Better for shotgunning :-)
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
806
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:15:00 -
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voidfaction wrote: hit or miss is most everything in game. what works today won't work tomorrow.
fixed.
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Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1368
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:37:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:voidfaction wrote:hit or miss is most everything in game. what works today might not work tomorrow Yeah, I'm having problems with 'em fizzling out. Kinda like nanohives when dropped on a slope. Anyhow, I'm gonna stick with my Scanner. Better for shotgunning :-) "Oh my Granny! What big eyes you have!" "The better to scan you with, darling" "Oh my Granny! What big teeth you have!" "The better to eat you with!"
There was a pause, Red Riding Hood was dumbfounded... "My-my-my," She stuttered. "What big claws you have!" The wolf-granny stopped. "This is the part where I would say 'the better to slice you up' but instead.."
BOOF-Chu-kunk!
30 plasma pellets spewed from the wolf's CreoDron Shotgun, ripping the flesh right off red riding hood's neck. The hunter outside heard this. But the wolf withdrew his 'Eclipse Scanner' and scanned the area. He became aware of the hunter.... |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
40
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:45:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Ran REs for the first time today. I'm getting a kill or two per match, but the trigger/arming delay is annoying.
Remote Explosive Inquiry: 1) How much faster do the F/45s arm compared to Standard REs? 2) Are the Advanced & Proto REs worth the SP investment?
Thanks, Shotty
If you plan to use them against tanks, installations or any other kind of armour, then yes, having even just one extra explosive on the ground for it can mean the difference between a kill and severe damage. For reference, 3 ADV RE's insta kill a tank with 1000 shields and 5000 armour when directly beneath said tank.
You just sold me on RE's and Flux Grenades |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
807
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Posted - 2013.08.05 21:54:00 -
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flux nades are also critical to countering REs. I always flux an objective before I hack. |
voidfaction
Void of Faction
40
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Posted - 2013.08.05 23:03:00 -
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mollerz wrote:flux nades are also critical to countering REs. I always flux an objective before I hack.
I thought of them only for shields. thanks for the tip
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BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
269
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Posted - 2013.08.05 23:42:00 -
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mollerz wrote:flux nades are also critical to countering REs. I always flux an objective before I hack.
You would be surprised on how many people don't do this... and get blow up by my RE's |
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mollerz
Minja Scouts
810
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Posted - 2013.08.06 00:04:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:mollerz wrote:flux nades are also critical to countering REs. I always flux an objective before I hack. You would be surprised on how many people don't do this... and get blow up by my RE's
I love that sometimes out there... is a constipated looking merc who is hammering on their detonator with no luck :-D |
DusterBuster
DUST University Ivy League
254
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Posted - 2013.08.06 00:38:00 -
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Tier one scout here. . . My kills are a little low but I am working on it.
Recently switched from using a shotgun to going with dual SMGs, and am loving it.
Minja for life! (Or for my dust career, but they are synonymous in my book).
Edit: Only 43 pages late. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
911
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Posted - 2013.08.06 02:13:00 -
[853] - Quote
DusterBuster wrote:Tier one scout here. . . My kills are a little low but I am working on it.
Recently switched from using a shotgun to going with dual SMGs, and am loving it.
Minja for life! (Or for my dust career, but they are synonymous in my book).
Edit: Only 43 pages late. welcome brother good to see another of the ranks |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
912
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Posted - 2013.08.06 06:10:00 -
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Anyone notice the smg is lacking the 'UMFF' it had in chrome? is it because the server can't keep up with the rounds? |
mollerz
Minja Scouts
813
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Posted - 2013.08.06 07:12:00 -
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I think the game lag has gotten way worse in the last day or two. certainly, today it was especially bad.
I thought CCP was making a futuristic war game. this is actually like a bad comedy. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
335
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:17:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote: On Proto Suits: Can't speak for Minmatar, but the Gallente proto suit was a pretty big letdown. Big investment for negligible return...more PG/CPU and a different slot config is about all you'll get. Under AR-fire, a proto scout dies just as fast as any other. Also, CPM has mentioned possibility of a future respec after all suit variations are introduced. So I'd spend the SP on something else, wait for the possible respec, or skill into proto suits once you've skilled into everything else.
Good feedback and not surprising to hear, although it is extremely depressing. I'm about 1/2 way to getting the L5 for the proto Gallente scout. Maybe after the reset Wednesday given the 2X SP event. Given the expense of the suit I can't see wearing it too often. I guess it could make an ideal initial hacking loadout, perhaps with 2 complex reds, a complex green in the lows, maybe a codebreaker.... then maybe swap out to an ADV/STD suit to save ISK before your first death.....
Maybe I'll forgo getting the proto suit for now and work on getting those stamina/hacking skills up to L5 instead. But, man - THEN I'd still have that proto suit looming over my head as a big SP sink in the future....
Stupid sucky uprising scout suits. How I miss the proto chrome scout suits.....
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Haerr
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
23
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:27:00 -
[857] - Quote
mollerz wrote:voidfaction wrote: hit or miss is most everything in game. what works today won't work tomorrow.
fixed.
+1 |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
515
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Posted - 2013.08.06 13:26:00 -
[858] - Quote
Matticus Monk wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote: On Proto Suits: Can't speak for Minmatar, but the Gallente proto suit was a pretty big letdown. Big investment for negligible return...more PG/CPU and a different slot config is about all you'll get. Under AR-fire, a proto scout dies just as fast as any other. Also, CPM has mentioned possibility of a future respec after all suit variations are introduced. So I'd spend the SP on something else, wait for the possible respec, or skill into proto suits once you've skilled into everything else.
Good feedback and not surprising to hear, although it is extremely depressing. I'm about 1/2 way to getting the L5 for the proto Gallente scout. Maybe after the reset Wednesday given the 2X SP event. Given the expense of the suit I can't see wearing it too often. I guess it could make an ideal initial hacking loadout, perhaps with 2 complex reds, a complex green in the lows, maybe a codebreaker.... then maybe swap out to an ADV/STD suit to save ISK before your first death..... Maybe I'll forgo getting the proto suit for now and work on getting those stamina/hacking skills up to L5 instead. But, man - THEN I'd still have that proto suit looming over my head as a big SP sink in the future.... Stupid sucky uprising scout suits. How I miss the proto chrome scout suits..... Gonna qualify my feedback to be safe ... the Pro Gal is a letdown from a 1.2 & 1.3 CQC perspective.
For whatever reason, the added speed potential doesn't help with evasion and the lower shield potential makes for bad news when under fire. A Duvolle AR can kill my proto speed tank -- while in full sprint -- in under 1 second...Sinboto wasn't lying when he said these AR guys have it easy.
Should we Scouts become more stealthy or otherwise harder to hit in 1.4, the Proto Gal will rank among the best hit-and-run suits. Until then, the Adv Gal is arguably better in combat. Even so, skilling into the Proto Gal Scout will absolutely offer you more tactical options. Examples:
PC Uplink Duty (NonCom)
DS: Pro Gal HS: Shield Ext LW: Flaylock SW: Flaylock GR: Flux EQ: Uplink LS: Red Pill LS: Red Pill LS: Green Pill LS: Armor Rep (or) Green Pill
Note: Good at getting around sneaky and fast. Very bad at combat.
AV Overwatch (Kinda NonCom)
DS: Pro Gal HS: Dmg Amp LW: Wiki Hahas (Swarm) SW: Flaylock GR: Lai Dai EQ: Nanohives LS: Armor Plates LS: Armor Plates LS: Armor Plates LS: Armor Rep (or) Green Pill
Note: Good at getting up high and blowing stuff up. Useful in PC (where a Scout can't play), but also useful in vehicle-oriented pub maps. The plates help with those pesky snipers. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
515
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Posted - 2013.08.06 14:24:00 -
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Fun with Nades: Toss a trusty Lai Dai at the passenger compartment of an incoming LLAV. Now its your death taxi. Haha!
Pro Tip: Don't forget to park in the red zone when your done. If the Troll Toy goes undestroyed, the Taxi Troll will get it back. |
Extraneus Tenebrarum
THE BOSSES
20
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Posted - 2013.08.06 23:34:00 -
[860] - Quote
Today The nova knives to me suddenly works... I killed an assault while he was sprinting ... Also killed several assaults while they where aware of my presence and lived most of the time... This cant be right |
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Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
26
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Posted - 2013.08.06 23:54:00 -
[861] - Quote
This has really turned into great resource...
Started this game as a scout ... mostly left the life after 1.2.
Dusting off my scout suit and getting back to it, though. Just miss it. Nothing quite like hard mode |
Acezero 44
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
125
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Posted - 2013.08.07 00:43:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote: On Proto Suits: Can't speak for Minmatar, but the Gallente proto suit was a pretty big letdown. Big investment for negligible return...more PG/CPU and a different slot config is about all you'll get. Under AR-fire, a proto scout dies just as fast as any other. Also, CPM has mentioned possibility of a future respec after all suit variations are introduced. So I'd spend the SP on something else, wait for the possible respec, or skill into proto suits once you've skilled into everything else.
Good feedback and not surprising to hear, although it is extremely depressing. I'm about 1/2 way to getting the L5 for the proto Gallente scout. Maybe after the reset Wednesday given the 2X SP event. Given the expense of the suit I can't see wearing it too often. I guess it could make an ideal initial hacking loadout, perhaps with 2 complex reds, a complex green in the lows, maybe a codebreaker.... then maybe swap out to an ADV/STD suit to save ISK before your first death..... Maybe I'll forgo getting the proto suit for now and work on getting those stamina/hacking skills up to L5 instead. But, man - THEN I'd still have that proto suit looming over my head as a big SP sink in the future.... Stupid sucky uprising scout suits. How I miss the proto chrome scout suits.....
I really think its fine to finish Gal scout, the proto variants are just nitch variations, there will be more.
Its true, proto Minni has more options for builds atm, but I still think the Gal @ 20m radar is an sweet advantage to have.
I think 30m radar an a tac AR would have great battle awareness, be in the right places all the time for easy kills,. then vanish..
pooof
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
335
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Posted - 2013.08.07 01:53:00 -
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Thanks for the excellent feedback Shotty and Ace. I will probably go for it and see what options can be had (I doubt my OCD would really just leave it at L4 anyway).
The 4 low slots seem to provide a lot of flexibility. It's just such a shame that the suit is so (SO) squishy.... 160 shields. BLEH.... |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1391
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Posted - 2013.08.07 01:59:00 -
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Now that I've started my SP investments into Electronics (passive scan stuff), thus making me extra squishy, I've found I can deal with this extra squishy. I've really had to change my frontal assaults but it's enhanced my "Oh **** You're Behind Me" moments. I used to rock 225 shields and 189 armor but now that is my side suit.
I live for the funk, I die for the funk. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
518
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Posted - 2013.08.07 02:12:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Now that I've started my SP investments into Electronics (passive scan stuff), thus making me extra squishy, I've found I can deal with this extra squishy. I've really had to change my frontal assaults but it's enhanced my "Oh **** You're Behind Me" moments. I used to rock 225 shields and 189 armor but now that is my side suit.
I live for the funk, I die for the funk. On the topic, I'm contemplating putting a few points into profile dampening. Any Gal Scouts have experience here? I popped up on a proto medium's radar today. When I rounded the corner in pursuit, he had cooked an M1 for me. Seemed to me I got sniffed out whilst stalking. He hadn't acquired line-of-sight on me, and no one else was in the vicinity. |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1391
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Posted - 2013.08.07 02:36:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote: On the topic, I'm contemplating putting a few points into profile dampening. Any Gal Scouts have experience here? I popped up on a proto medium's radar today. When I rounded the corner in pursuit, he had cooked an M1 for me. Seemed to me I got sniffed out whilst stalking. He hadn't acquired line-of-sight on me, and no one else was in the vicinity.
I'd say really wait until 1.4 (? I Think?) when the Tacnet system gets a major overhaul before making any investment, unless you are absolutely sure that you can tolerate sticking to it through thick and thin.
I just started this venture and I will keep you updated through the tiers of modules I progress through. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
518
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Posted - 2013.08.07 02:38:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Thanks for the excellent feedback Shotty and Ace. I will probably go for it and see what options can be had (I doubt my OCD would really just leave it at L4 anyway).
The 4 low slots seem to provide a lot of flexibility. It's just such a shame that the suit is so (SO) squishy.... 160 shields. BLEH.... That's what we're here for, Monk. Please to be of assistance. o7.
Squishy is right ... but fast as hell. If and when speed makes us hard to hit again, the Gal Scout will be great.
Stats: 302 HP (w/Complex Shield Extender) 10.01 m/s Sprint (w/2 complex reds) 10.31 m/s Sprint (w/3 complex reds)
Notes: L(5) Biotics L(3) Core Shields L(3) Core Armor
Observations: My proto speed tank can survive around 1/2 to 3/4 of one second when under Duvolle AR fire, variance determined by user proficiency and damage mods. That's not nearly enough time to land 2-3 shotgun blasts. I'm doing fairly well opening up my surprise attacks w/proto Locus or Flux nades. Food for thought.
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Decasor
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
38
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Posted - 2013.08.07 02:38:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:Now that I've started my SP investments into Electronics (passive scan stuff), thus making me extra squishy, I've found I can deal with this extra squishy. I've really had to change my frontal assaults but it's enhanced my "Oh **** You're Behind Me" moments. I used to rock 225 shields and 189 armor but now that is my side suit.
I live for the funk, I die for the funk. On the topic, I'm contemplating putting a few points into profile dampening. Any Gal Scouts have experience here? I popped up on a proto medium's radar today. When I rounded the corner in pursuit, he had cooked an M1 for me. Seemed to me I got sniffed out whilst stalking. He hadn't acquired line-of-sight on me, and no one else was in the vicinity.
Extremely effective on even the most basic suit, the Dragonfly to be honest.
I use a dragonfly with 1 militia damper and level 5 Profile Damping, with a shotty setup to ambush people near covered hack points, and I don't believe i've been detected at all (once maybe but it was more likely a guy on top of a building looking down that gave his friend my location).
Have regularly ambushed 6-7 people in a single match, even with scanners, and they eventually get peeved and come in groups of 4 or more to take them. Quite amusing watching them start to hack then jump back and spray in random directions, thrown grenades and generally be completely paranoid after a while.
If you are looking at one of the better quality suits and dampers, be prepared for amusing experiences.
I was sitting down popping away happily with a sniper rifle and someone ran in front of my, squatted down and opened up with their sniper rifle. Was about to tell him to bugger off as I had the angle covered and realised he was an enemy Naturally I had to SMG him - he wasn't a scout so all good |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
518
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Posted - 2013.08.07 02:42:00 -
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Decasor wrote: Extremely effective on even the most basic suit, the Dragonfly to be honest.
I envy your KD (this guy's over 6.0) and will absolutely take your feedback into account. Thanks, Decasor. |
Decasor
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
39
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Posted - 2013.08.07 02:45:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Decasor wrote: Extremely effective on even the most basic suit, the Dragonfly to be honest.
I envy your KD (this guy's over 6.0) and will absolutely take your feedback into account. Thanks, Decasor.
I wish it meant I was skilled - i'm a coward, I ambush and snipe |
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