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Scout Registry 291	Posted - 2014.01.05 03:54:00 - [6031] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: it's sad enough that you didnt read my post carefully.. but shouldnt you at least read what is in your own post carefully? Slight Hyperbole: Back when I was in the Academy, I OHK'd someone with a Shotgun; it was incredible. I hadn't even invested very much SP in Shotguns. My AR has never OHK'd anyone. The Shotgun must be OP. Imagine if I had aimed for the head. Because shotgunners probably do that all the time. ^ Quil Chronicles Research of Shotguns The shotgun is already OP. It is a mathematical fact. I have proven this fact through exhaustive research and testing. Vets with 20x my combat experience and 1000x my shotgun experience are all wrong, unless they agree with me. If anything, the shotgun should be nerfed. ^ Quil Participates in Shotgun Debate, referencing earlier "research" Yes, I read your post. Yes, I saw that you referred to past "research." Given your track record, one might be inclined to question your research methods.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1453	Posted - 2014.01.05 03:58:00 - [6032] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Thanks! I listen to a little bit of everything, and am always looking to broaden my horizons musically ( I drum IRL). Here is a link to my current spotify playlist. Feel free to add any recommendations. I am an old washed up punk rocker, but I got some diverse tastes as wellGÇª Thanks for sharing this Can't access your list I'll do some stuff and get at it though Spotify is great. Premium lets you skip the ads, and it lets you listen to ANY song you want so long as you have internet connection. Can't take it with you, but it's awesome. Since you can't see it right now. Artists in the playlist: A7X The Offspring Limp Bizkit P.O.D Chevelle Stone Sour Breaking Benjamin Evanescence ADTR New Medicine Young Guns Imagine Dragons Skillet Hollywood Undead Hadouken! <---- Not kidding, that's actually a band Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Scout Registry 292	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:19:00 - [6033] - Quote Wow! Has everyone else already seen this stuff? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1684483#post1684483 I'd seen bits and pieces of this footage but hadn't the fighter, speeder and drone models.
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 660	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:36:00 - [6034] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: I read your post. Carefully. I saw that you referred to your past "research" ... I saw your figures, I considered your track record, and I called Bullish. Odds are, you're making stuff up again. Which is pretty fluxing annoying. Be a man. Instead of throwing around catty words, take 5 minutes, and duplicate the research yourself. Then man up, give me a decent apology, and treat my posts with a better reguard in the future. That dramatization you tossed about just now on my shotgun posts, where in reality, I posted details on specific findings of mine, was really uncalled for too. It was an inaccurate portrayal of my posts. But given your reputation, other people will treat it as accurate. That makes it doubly unfair.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1456	Posted - 2014.01.05 05:43:00 - [6035] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Scout Registry wrote: I read your post. Carefully. I saw that you referred to your past "research" ... I saw your figures, I considered your track record, and I called Bullish. Odds are, you're making stuff up again. Which is pretty fluxing annoying. Be a man. Instead of throwing around catty words, take 5 minutes, and duplicate the research yourself. Then man up, give me a decent apology, and treat my posts with a better reguard in the future. That dramatization you tossed about just now on my shotgun posts, where in reality, I posted details on specific findings of mine, was really uncalled for too. It was an inaccurate portrayal of my posts. But given your reputation, other people will treat it as accurate. That makes it doubly unfair. For the sake of this argument, can you please bring up the posts in question? I don't wanna dig through this threadnaught for it. Instead of claiming that he is giving in inaccurate portrayal, why not just repost your facts and research. And by the way, most of us trust shotty's info because he has an excellent track record. I don't just trust this guy's research or viewpoints cause I love what he did with the registry, it's because I have talked to him and played with him, and I have always known him to have solid arguments and data to back up what he is saying. So do the same. Please provide us with the facts, data, and arguments that he says you are lacking. We can move forward from there. One step at a time fellas. It's not called the Scientific Method for nothing. There is a procedure for this. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Scout Registry 293	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:03:00 - [6036] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Be a man. Instead of throwing around catty words, take 5 minutes, and duplicate the research yourself. Then man up, give me a decent apology, and treat my posts with a better reguard in the future. Let's split this job you've created for yourself into two parts, so I can help you out. One of us can make up false claims and present them as facts allover the forums. The other can issue demands of veterans, then act all indignant and wounded when rejected. I'll let you pick the part you want. This way you won't have to do both on your own. Teamwork. Quil Evrything wrote: That dramatization you tossed about just now on my shotgun posts, where in reality, I posted details on specific findings of mine, was really uncalled for too. It was an inaccurate portrayal of my posts. But given your reputation, other people will treat it as accurate. That makes it doubly unfair. Perhaps you're right, though the dramatization was introduced as hyperbole. Regardless, both you and I know its closer to truth than fiction. Here's an idea, which will most certainly help you restore reputation. Quit feigning expertise on anything and everything. For the love of nanites, quit making stuff up. No one here is going to waste his time disproving each of your nonsensical claims. if you wish to make a claim, back it up with your testing methods. If you wish to express an opinion, back it up with your specific experiences. As a new Scout, due diligence will protect you when weighing in on discussions among veteran Scouts.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1457	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:29:00 - [6037] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: As a new Scout, due diligence will protect you when weighing in on discussions among veteran Scouts. THIS. @ Quil Jumps on soapbox Think of it this way. If you tell your professor he is wrong, he will most likely disregard your argument. He will trust his experience over your input. If you tell your professor he is wrong, why he is wrong in detail, and provide proof showing that he is wrong, chances are that professor will look at the data and agree with you. Data trumps experience every time. While I hate the blatant Elitism that this game creates, it does have it's purpose. The "Professor" analogy I just used does in fact apply to the Veteran Scouts, as much as I hate to say it. People who have been here longer typically have a much better insight into the game than newcomers. Experience is valuable here, and while (as I said) I HATE Elitism, you really should respect it. That doesn't mean that we are never wrong. But it does mean that most vet's opinions and arguments are not unfounded. Please note that I am trying very hard to not sound like some super elitist prik here. It's hard to describe what I am trying to say, and I really hope it gets through. SIGH In short, it's okay to disagree with the Vet's here. In fact, I encourage it. But don't do it by disregarding what we are saying. You can disagree with someone respectfully, it just takes some humility. Jumps off soapbox God, I hate doing that. I always feel like a douche afterwards. Gonna end this with a tip for everyone for the forums that I find helpful. Tip for the forums: If someone says something that you disagree with, don't try and tell them that you are right and they are wrong. Ask them to prove their information. If they can't, it means that they are only using personal experience or that they honestly have no idea what they are talking about. This saves you from many pointless arguments. If they can't prove what they are saying, don't even bother with them. Obligatory: This is just my 0.02 ISK on the matter Feel free to troll, lol, hate or debate as you see fit. ^ I say that so people realize that this is my opinion. Holy hell I need to go to bed..... Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 434	Posted - 2014.01.05 06:36:00 - [6038] - Quote I'm just sad ccp are fixing commandos before scouts....yay we are put on the backlog......again. Guess that means there are morpeople running commando than scouts.......... histerical sobbing To be fair ccp has made the scanning system so damn convoluted no one really can test it correctly. Things change so frequently and often in a ninja nerf way we cant really track what is fact anymore. Knives work one day and are **** the next....some days I'm getting instagibbed by ScR and owning with the shotgun next. But it's never consistent and I think that's what makes it so damn difficult to prove ANYTHING....... But data/video always helps. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch
Radar R4D-47 0uter.Heaven 285	Posted - 2014.01.05 07:34:00 - [6039] - Quote Shotty GoBang wrote: Scout Registry / Memorial Closed: Dec 9th, 2013 raises glass To scouts everywhere: May we forever live in infamy And find our way into the darkness no matter how difficult the road To persist through all obstructions regardless the odds To bring fear and paranoia to mercs everywhere when we alight upon the fields of war To cut through shield and armor with the sharpest of blades and wit To pierce through iron and gold with high caliber rounds from the shadows To forever be inspired by our fallen brothers who bring deviousness far and wide in other lands Always memorialized and remembered hung upon our hallowed walls. - Matticus Monk, Ordus Trismegistus DJINN MARAUDER #2 ended with most kills LIGHTNING XVX #1 ended being truly the better player SHOTTY GOBANG most badass This list hurts my heart. I shall fix.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1572	Posted - 2014.01.05 08:11:00 - [6040] - Quote For the record- I wasn't on today because I have been wrestling with comcast to even connect sometimes. I am positive it is not CCP, and in fact, comcast. I coudln't connect with my usual IP, but I tricked my router to make comcast increment my IP by one via double NAT'ing and coudl connect. In my endeavor to honestly work with comcast I completely wiped that possibility off the table. I put in a trouble ticket with CCP about it. There has been weird on going internet routing issues between CCP/comcast. Depending on who you talk to and what changes day to day. I'm so ******* over it. Regardless, I just finally was able to connect. Why? WHO F UCKING KNOWS. But hey.. I'm back. lol. @Ghost and Shotty. I know exactly where you guys are coming from when you talk. You guys are far more data intensive than I, and I always defer. You guys are far smarter than I am! I've been a huge fan of Shotty since this threads inception, and .. well, SHOTTY FOR CPM1. AMIRITE!? And Ghost, it's one thing to talk about existing game mechanics, and another for prospective game additions. There's no way to get any kind of data on somethign that isn;t in the game yet. Quilly and I ran aground, if you will, when cloaking came up. There's fixing existing stuff, and then there's insuring we don't have to fix new stuff. @Quilly- That sounds great. I had a family party today so aside from the internet issues, I'm totally game to work this out. I'll be caldari or gallente. I just don't want to be amarr. I'm minja based so... 1 on 1 or scout sqd vs scout sqd? KNives only? If you want to use a firearm, I'll be okay with it. I'll still use knives. But dont; be surprised if I whip out a firearm if things get buggy. basically, anything goes. I'm good. And for the record, I don't dislike you Quilly. No hard feelings, and I hope we don't chase you away. You are a sensitive guy apparently But don't get mad when you get nailed to the wall on stuff. It's the nature of the beast. I'd seriously encourage you to take Ghost and Shotty's advice. They mean only the best. Cheers. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla

mollerz Minja Scouts 1572	Posted - 2014.01.05 08:13:00 - [6041] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: I'm just sad ccp are fixing commandos before scouts....yay we are put on the backlog......again. Guess that means there are morpeople running commando than scouts.......... histerical sobbing To be fair ccp has made the scanning system so damn convoluted no one really can test it correctly. Things change so frequently and often in a ninja nerf way we cant really track what is fact anymore. Knives work one day and are **** the next....some days I'm getting instagibbed by ScR and owning with the shotgun next. But it's never consistent and I think that's what makes it so damn difficult to prove ANYTHING....... But data/video always helps. Wait. They are for sure fixing commandos, and not scouts at all in 1.8? I missed that!? JAysus fuking mary keerist. #shittycoding strikes again. You know what, devs? I don't even care. Just fix knives and sprinting. it's embarrassing. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1086	Posted - 2014.01.05 08:39:00 - [6042] - Quote mollerz wrote: IgniteableAura wrote: I'm just sad ccp are fixing commandos before scouts....yay we are put on the backlog......again. Guess that means there are morpeople running commando than scouts.......... histerical sobbing To be fair ccp has made the scanning system so damn convoluted no one really can test it correctly. Things change so frequently and often in a ninja nerf way we cant really track what is fact anymore. Knives work one day and are **** the next....some days I'm getting instagibbed by ScR and owning with the shotgun next. But it's never consistent and I think that's what makes it so damn difficult to prove ANYTHING....... But data/video always helps. Wait. They are for sure fixing commandos, and not scouts at all in 1.8? I missed that!? JAysus fuking mary keerist. #shittycoding strikes again. You know what, devs? I don't even care. Just fix knives and sprinting. it's embarrassing. Hold up "Hard" confirmation exists that the Commando is getting a fix - yes This does not mean that Scouts are getting overlooked don't worry yet And as to your internetsGÇª Come north my friend, where the bandwidth is plentiful the beer is potent. KRRROOOOOOM
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 503	Posted - 2014.01.05 11:21:00 - [6043] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: A7X The Offspring Limp Bizkit P.O.D Chevelle Stone Sour Breaking Benjamin Evanescence ADTR New Medicine Young Guns Imagine Dragons Skillet Hollywood Undead Hadouken! <---- Not kidding, that's actually a band Nice list, I'd reccomend Anberlin but I don't know how spotify works. Also, there's none there I can copare them to. Have fun! Also OneRepublic too I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1465	Posted - 2014.01.05 15:05:00 - [6044] - Quote Spademan wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: A7X The Offspring Limp Bizkit P.O.D Chevelle Stone Sour Breaking Benjamin Evanescence ADTR New Medicine Young Guns Imagine Dragons Skillet Hollywood Undead Hadouken! <---- Not kidding, that's actually a band Nice list, I'd reccomend Anberlin but I don't know how spotify works. Also, there's none there I can copare them to. Have fun! Also OneRepublic too Thanks! This is just a list of the artists on my current playlist. No real way to recommend, other than just tellin me Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1465	Posted - 2014.01.05 15:10:00 - [6045] - Quote And if you guys are wondering why I'm really data intensive and why I appear to be preaching the scientific method. I may be only 19, but I'm an avid Chemistry/Biochemistry Major in College right now. ( My dad is a chemist too, kinda runs in the family) That's the main reason why. I was raised to never trust something if you can't back it up. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Kahn Zo Furyan Alpha 180	Posted - 2014.01.05 15:35:00 - [6046] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Knives work one day and are **** the next....some days I'm getting instagibbed by ScR and owning with the shotgun next. But it's never consistent and I think that's what makes it so damn difficult to prove ANYTHING....... I believe it is all weapons. Some days weapons of choice work better than others. there is some kind of inconsistency going on here, be it servers of what not, or, CCP has an auto selectable random generator stupid switch for accounts Ex. Friday, I use the Scrambler Rifle, awesome. Killin abandom. saturday, same suit, Scrambler Rifle, I couldn't kill a fly with it. Just one example of the plethra of weapons I have tried, same story. I know it is not me, bad day, etc. Sumpthing up with Jack.... [quote=mollerz] No no no no. I can't just fit willy nilly on my suit.[/quote]
Quil Evrything Triple Terrors 662	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:02:00 - [6047] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: For the sake of this argument, can you please bring up the posts in question? I don't wanna dig through this threadnaught for it. Instead of claiming that he is giving in inaccurate portrayal, why not just repost your facts and research. The shotgun one? You even replied to it, lol. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1648599#post1648599 (skiping a few, then) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1651303#post1651303 You suggested in one of your recent posts, that I should always get specific, with data, rather than theories. The irony is, I was the one doing just that, and Shotty refused to. First, I gave estimates. Then, I went to the trouble of redoing a shotgun fit, and going out to fight a match using only shotgun. I gave specific numbers. (and it showed my estimates werent far off). What did I get for my troubles? people just made fun of me that I wasnt 'leet, and ignored the relevance of the data, to the topic in question Did I say I was uber in shotgunning? nope. I explicitly admitted I was not. The silly thing is, the very fact that I'm not, actually proves the point better, that shotgun is a very powerful weapon as-is. (ps: for the record, my KDR on my quoted battle should have been more like 1.0, though. Like I said in the post, I was against a full pro squad, solo. I got killed by orbitals twice, and spawn-camped a bunch of times)
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 7490	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:05:00 - [6048] - Quote I feel the need to knife more people. I think I'm starting to not be terrible at knifing - I am acquiring double kills now. Level 7 Forum Warrior Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
Daxxis KANNAH Distinct Covert Initiative 571	Posted - 2014.01.05 16:26:00 - [6049] - Quote Ghost - only 19 Kudos to you guy. I dont think I will ever be this articulate and I have you beat age-wise by much. - Keep it up.
Shutter Fly Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 152	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:01:00 - [6050] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: For the sake of this argument, can you please bring up the posts in question? I don't wanna dig through this threadnaught for it. Instead of claiming that he is giving in inaccurate portrayal, why not just repost your facts and research. The shotgun one? You even replied to it, lol. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1648599#post1648599 (skiping a few, then) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1651303#post1651303 You suggested in one of your recent posts, that I should always get specific, with data, rather than theories. The irony is, I was the one doing just that, and Shotty refused to. First, I gave estimates. Then, I went to the trouble of redoing a shotgun fit, and going out to fight a match using only shotgun. I gave specific numbers. (and it showed my estimates werent far off). What did I get for my troubles? people just made fun of me that I wasnt 'leet, and ignored the relevance of the data, to the topic in question Did I say I was uber in shotgunning? nope. I explicitly admitted I was not. The silly thing is, the very fact that I'm not, actually proves the point better, that shotgun is a very powerful weapon as-is. (ps: for the record, my KDR on my quoted battle should have been more like 1.0, though. Like I said in the post, I was against a full pro squad, solo. I got killed by orbitals twice, and spawn-camped a bunch of times) Those posts don't constitute giving actual numbers, the second one is even a "this one time..." type argument, which is arbitrary and is completely useless in a legitimate presentation of an argument. Ghost and Shotty both gave valid opposition to your points, and you did not provide a proper rebuttal. This means that you cannot say they are incorrect without a proper response that addresses the their counterpoints. Real data is saying "In X situation with Y attributes, these calculations yield result Z. From this we can conclude A, because of XYZ." Denying it does not change fact. You are not providing proper arguments, evidence, and rebuttals. If you don't meet those requirements, like everyone else involved, then your points will not be taken seriously.

IgniteableAura Pro Hic Immortalis 440	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:12:00 - [6051] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Hold up "Hard" confirmation exists that the Commando is getting a fix - yes This does not mean that Scouts are getting overlooked don't worry yet And as to your internetsGÇª Come north my friend, where the bandwidth is plentiful the beer is potent. Again until the devs actually say scouts are getting fixed in a specific patch it won't ever happen. Defer to the continued waiting.....been waiting since, oh I donno. 1.0? Sorry, bitter scout here. PHI Recruitment or PHIsh Tank in game Twitch
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1468	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:31:00 - [6052] - Quote Daxxis KANNAH wrote: Ghost - only 19 Kudos to you guy. I dont think I will ever be this articulate and I have you beat age-wise by much. - Keep it up. Stahp it. You're making me blush Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Ghost Kaisar Titans of Phoenix Legacy Rising 1469	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:39:00 - [6053] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: His post with his data Do you know the difference between Qualitative and Quantitative data? Read this You have tons of Qualitative data. Which is good, but you NEED Quantitative data. If I turn in a report with nothing but observations, my professor will fail me. Qualitative data is important, but you need numbers. All I see in those two posts is a lot of qualitative data in the first, and then two terrible rounds to back it up. Instead of playing rounds to test data, why not take a smaller first step? Pay 1 mil to somone to be a test subject (I did this for Aeon once, good pay ) Jump into a FW match, and use him as a test subject. Have him tank a med frame. Shoot him with a shotgun.Record how much damage you did. How many shots it takes to kill to the chest. Then do it to the head. Do the same with a Heavy frame. Record all data. Review your hypothesis. If the data supports it, then write up a conclusion, and present it in a easy to read fashion. If not, re-evaluate your hypothesis. Test again. Welcome to the scientific method. Get over it. If you don't play to win in FW, then you're playing for Caldari. -Patrick57 Minmatar. In Rust we trust.
Scout Registry 312	Posted - 2014.01.05 17:44:00 - [6054] - Quote Quil Evrything wrote: ... that shotgun is a very powerful weapon as-is. ^ Go ahead and flesh this bone out a 'bit, Quil. The Shotgun is fine as is. It doesn't need a buff to range. It doesn't need a buff to damage. I understand that shotgun vets have posted dozens of detailed threads to the contrary. They are all wrong. Because I know best after running a shotgun over a handful matches. This isn't my opinion. This is gospel fact. - Quil Fast Forward: T+0) You assert a claim from a position of little-to-no experience. T+1) I explain in detail why you're wrong from a position of significant experience. T+2) You make up math in defense of your claim (headshots do 1200+ damage). T+3) I explain in detail why you're wrong. Less gently. T+4) You reject my reasoning and demand that I prove false your make-believe math. T+5) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugTbwvVuLKA I have no intention of repeating this exercise, Quil. You have your opinion; I have mine. Your opinion happens to contradict that of most experts on the subject. You've brought claim against the status quo from a position of little-to-no experience. Burden of proof -- so to speak -- is on you, not the experts. If you wish to debate this subject again, then do your own research. * Find the experts' posts on the subject; revisit their points and perspectives one by one. * If you are able to reject a specific expert opinion, then have sound reasoning for doing so. * If you are unable to reject a specific expert opinion, then you must account for it. Running a shotgun for a few matches then posting your opinions is no way to debate with experts. Do we not poke fun at Tourists for doing exactly this?
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1094	Posted - 2014.01.05 18:09:00 - [6055] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Spademan wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: A7X The Offspring Limp Bizkit P.O.D Chevelle Stone Sour Breaking Benjamin Evanescence ADTR New Medicine Young Guns Imagine Dragons Skillet Hollywood Undead Hadouken! <---- Not kidding, that's actually a band Nice list, I'd reccomend Anberlin but I don't know how spotify works. Also, there's none there I can copare them to. Have fun! Also OneRepublic too Thanks! This is just a list of the artists on my current playlist. No real way to recommend, other than just tellin me I present to you then Gogol Bordello KRRROOOOOOM
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1094	Posted - 2014.01.05 18:53:00 - [6056] - Quote IgniteableAura wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Hold up "Hard" confirmation exists that the Commando is getting a fix - yes This does not mean that Scouts are getting overlooked don't worry yet And as to your internetsGÇª Come north my friend, where the bandwidth is plentiful the beer is potent. Again until the devs actually say scouts are getting fixed in a specific patch it won't ever happen. Yes, but even if they specifically say they will do it, does not mean it will happen either (push baaaaaccckkk) I can't get frustrated by it, if I have no real expectations IgniteableAura wrote: Quote: New Commando skills coming in 1.8 should help make this role a little more enticing, but really, the major problem is that Commandos are a highly specialized role (IGÇÖd argue the Commando is one of the more specialized roles we have) with a high SP cost. What then happens during the battle is they have no other role to fall back on when the in-battle situation changes, leaving them at a major disadvantage and no way to change roles (which is no fun at all). We want to lower SP costs of skills to allow players to get into everything much faster and increase the sink on the high-end, but that wonGÇÖt happen until after 1.8 Defer to the continued waiting.....been waiting since, oh I donno. 1.0? And commandos get new skills....while we rot. Read the above and sub the word commando for scout and its basically what we have always been dealing with...since they nerfed us into the ground. Sorry, bitter scout here. Although I think they are talking about all skills getting lower SP requirements...something I have been preaching since Dusts inception...the cost to level skill is too high from 1-4. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1498802#post1498802 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1452506#post1452506 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1102424#post1102424 Totally understand, been waiting on fun options since I was an arbiter (or whatever it was called) Just like most of us, you have been working with what we have, and doing well. I took a big break due to crashing every match (And my life got busyGÇª really busy) came back after the respec I would love to see lower costs on some skills, would also love to see the dead spaces in the skill tree filled with useful bonuses. On another note "New Commando skills coming in 1.8' What are Commando "skills" ? Does this mean suit bonus changingGÇª or adding the other suits (given the plural)GÇª Or are they adding skills to the tree related to suits Example Min Scout level I unlocks access to Cloak Efficiency skill KRRROOOOOOM
noob cavman Tickle My Null-Sac 351	Posted - 2014.01.05 19:39:00 - [6057] - Quote Feck it il be a dummy for a shotgun fest fun times. Or the shotgunner got prof 4 and used (not really for 2 weeks) run 80% of the time on scout fits. Will even fight for cally squid boys and lose my standing on gal to give "fresh" data on the subject. Also quick question to everyone. Have you experienced weird semi lag with your toon jumping a foot every so often and stuttering with the shotgun? Its driving me to rage quit fairly hard and go killing jolly's cats in minecraft Hey mlt tank guess what my lav is ready and I GOT TWO TICKETS TO PARADISE!!! Renegade minja fighting for the empress
mollerz Minja Scouts 1586	Posted - 2014.01.05 19:46:00 - [6058] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Spademan wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: A7X The Offspring Limp Bizkit P.O.D Chevelle Stone Sour Breaking Benjamin Evanescence ADTR New Medicine Young Guns Imagine Dragons Skillet Hollywood Undead Hadouken! <---- Not kidding, that's actually a band Nice list, I'd reccomend Anberlin but I don't know how spotify works. Also, there's none there I can copare them to. Have fun! Also OneRepublic too Thanks! This is just a list of the artists on my current playlist. No real way to recommend, other than just tellin me I present to you then Gogol Bordello WTF? No Tool, Perfect Circle, NIN, Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Front 242, Bassnectar, or YG? You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Llast 326 An Arkhos 1096	Posted - 2014.01.05 19:52:00 - [6059] - Quote mollerz wrote: Llast 326 wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Spademan wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: A7X The Offspring Limp Bizkit P.O.D Chevelle Stone Sour Breaking Benjamin Evanescence ADTR New Medicine Young Guns Imagine Dragons Skillet Hollywood Undead Hadouken! <---- Not kidding, that's actually a band Nice list, I'd reccomend Anberlin but I don't know how spotify works. Also, there's none there I can copare them to. Have fun! Also OneRepublic too Thanks! This is just a list of the artists on my current playlist. No real way to recommend, other than just tellin me I present to you then Gogol Bordello WTF? No Tool, Perfect Circle, NIN, Skinny Puppy, Ministry, Front 242, Bassnectar, or YG? I literally have 4 months of continuous music digitally, so that does not even count my vinylGÇª music = life (sadly I have no known talent for it beyond appreciation) KRRROOOOOOM
mollerz Minja Scouts 1587	Posted - 2014.01.05 19:59:00 - [6060] - Quote Woah- what do you have on vinyl? Do you have one turntable... or two You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla



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