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Scout Registry
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Posted - 2013.12.19 03:58:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Scout Registry wrote:
@ Quil Your idea was met with resistance here among Brothers. In Ghost's thread, you assert that it "would also leave most scouts quite happy, since using sidearms as primary weapon is quite common ...". In the future, I'd humbly request that you take a poll (at minimum) prior to positing on behalf of the majority. Thank you.
Good point. For the record, I based my statement on the impression I have, that "most scouts" use one or more of (pistols, knives, SMG) on a regular basis Yes, obviously there are shotgun users ;) but "they" tend to be quite happy with SMG on the whole as well. You'd only be stuck without shotgun when you wanted cloak. ANd I know you like pistol almost as well ;D mollerz dodged the question, so I dont expect a reasonable answer from him. But I'd be curious if you or other scouts were asked by CCP, "would you rather have cloak stuck in EQ slot, or light weapon slot" (and those were the ONLY choices, no finesse of any kind), which you would prefer. I'd be interested in seeing this as a proper poll. Thing is, I'm not sure the best way to run it. Putting it in the general forum would probably get flooded by annoying medium-suiter spam. Would I be "ok" trading another nerf for a long-awaited role / specialty? Absolutely not. I think that'd be the final straw for many of us, Quil. We've endured too much to freely accept a slap in the face after waiting so long. The Devs are a creative lot. I trust that they can come up with a way to implement cloak without us having to offer up a sacrifice. I say let them figure it out, Quil. If they have questions or concerns, they know where to find us.
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Scout Registry
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:01:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:How does the Plasma Canon fair against Vehicles? You'll need to find a really stupid or heavily wounded Tanker. Appia's had decent luck; if I recall correctly, it takes just under one clip. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
904
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:09:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Llast 326 wrote:How does the Plasma Canon fair against Vehicles? You'll need to find a really stupid or heavily wounded Tanker. Appia's had decent luck; if I recall correctly, it takes just under one clip. I seem to find a few stupid Tankers, but more smart ones (or at least smart enough to run when they get hurt) Wonder if i go Plasma Canon, and keep my damage tactics if the extra range from the PLC would let me get the ones who runGǪ I have a pile of SP that was going to go to Hacking level 5GǪ but i may spend some on the Plasma Canon just to feel it out.
Unless Appia says that's stupid, then I may reconsider, before i do it anyway
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Scout Registry
117
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:12:00 -
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@ Llast Even if Appia said its a wonderful idea, I'd strongly advise against dumping SP in PLC. |
Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
574
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:17:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:Wonder if i go Plasma Canon, and keep my damage tactics if the extra range from the PLC would let me get the ones who runGǪ I have a pile of SP that was going to go to Hacking level 5GǪ but i may spend some on the Plasma Canon just to feel it out. Unless Appia says that's stupid, then I may reconsider, before i do it anyway
(for me at least) its hard enough to hit a vehicle directly at 50m. When standing still. Trying to hit it at 100m, while it's deliberately moving at high speed trying to get away? Almost impossible I would think, unless you manage to corner it in some sort of alley or confined space. ie: one stupid enough to come into a city without a fast exit lane.
If they're that dumb though, would be easier to first scare them with the PLC... and get them to run into a pre-laid RE trap. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
904
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:18:00 -
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No worries, not going to do it until i ave a feel for a few other tricks. I may just stay in the sockets, but it gets so boring sometimes.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
904
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:20:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Wonder if i go Plasma Canon, and keep my damage tactics if the extra range from the PLC would let me get the ones who runGǪ I have a pile of SP that was going to go to Hacking level 5GǪ but i may spend some on the Plasma Canon just to feel it out. Unless Appia says that's stupid, then I may reconsider, before i do it anyway (for me at least) its hard enough to hit a vehicle directly at 50m. When standing still. Trying to hit it at 100m, while it's deliberately moving at high speed trying to get away? Almost impossible I would think, unless you manage to corner it in some sort of alley or confined space. ie: one stupid enough to come into a city without a fast exit lane. If they're that dumb though, would be easier to first scare them with the PLC... and get them to run into a pre-laid RE trap. Most tanks i take out are in cities and confined spaces already, it's the out in the open ones that get away. That and the redline rails that I can't RE
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Cass Caul
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:23:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:How does the Plasma Canon fair against Vehicles?
2 shots LAVs
7-9 shots tanks. Shield tanks have less HP and you do more damage to shields so they are better targets. wait till their injectors run out and get them then. can't have them running away.
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
882
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:49:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:No worries, not going to do it until i ave a feel for a few other tricks. I may just stay in the sockets, but it gets so boring sometimes. If you fight for gal, you can get the Fed. PLC. I like using it. I hope to get someone right in the kisser. |
Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
882
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:51:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:I think we have to fix tank spam ourselves I say we just kill them all 3 REs on the back of a tank. They can't see you. You have to flank around. Maybe the pro REs will see some use. |
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Scout Registry
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Posted - 2013.12.19 04:57:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:Llast 326 wrote:I think we have to fix tank spam ourselves I say we just kill them all 3 REs on the back of a tank. They can't see you. You have to flank around. Maybe the pro REs will see some use. Thought all RE's packed the same punch. (?) |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
905
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Posted - 2013.12.19 05:00:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:Llast 326 wrote:No worries, not going to do it until i ave a feel for a few other tricks. I may just stay in the sockets, but it gets so boring sometimes. If you fight for gal, you can get the Fed. PLC. I like using it. I hope to get someone right in the kisser. Totally forgot that I can grab one without SP to feel how they work Thank you
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
883
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Posted - 2013.12.19 05:03:00 -
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It would be nice to see the scout have a special role. Everybody else has a role...we...adapt.
i hope CCP is aware that speed and agility are useless. I try to run to cover and still get shot down 5m into cover, it's annoying! |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
905
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Posted - 2013.12.19 05:03:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:Llast 326 wrote:I think we have to fix tank spam ourselves I say we just kill them all 3 REs on the back of a tank. They can't see you. You have to flank around. Maybe the pro REs will see some use. Do this a lot, but sometimes they do see me 3rd person view need to get in a HAV to see what they seeGǪ Know thy enemy. And Proto? What ShottGǪ Scout Registry saidGǪ thought the damage didn't scale
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
883
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Posted - 2013.12.19 05:06:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Niuvo wrote:Llast 326 wrote:I think we have to fix tank spam ourselves I say we just kill them all 3 REs on the back of a tank. They can't see you. You have to flank around. Maybe the pro REs will see some use. Thought all RE's packed the same punch. (?) With pro you can add one more remote. You can carry 4 so max damage is 6,000hp |
Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
575
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Posted - 2013.12.19 05:10:00 -
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Niuvo wrote: With pro you can add one more remote. You can carry 4 so max damage is 6,000hp
with proto, technically, max damage is 7500. you can have 5 active.
trick with non-proto, is to pre-scout around for nanohive or supply depot near your target. you can only carry 3, but have 4 active. So, drop 2, resupply, then drop 2 more.
6,0000, oh yeah.
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
886
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Posted - 2013.12.19 05:18:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Niuvo wrote: With pro you can add one more remote. You can carry 4 so max damage is 6,000hp
with proto, technically, max damage is 7500. you can have 5 active. trick with non-proto, is to pre-scout around for nanohive or supply depot near your target. you can only carry 3, but have 4 active. So, drop 2, resupply, then drop 2 more. 6,0000, oh yeah. chances are you only have one shot. |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
2424
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Posted - 2013.12.19 08:06:00 -
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What do most scouts do when they run out of ammo in an Ambush and no one has nanohives + there are no supply depots? Suicide-Melee brawl till death? Run around looking for a vehicle to hop in?
Because man I ran out of ammo in my pistol and laser rifle today and was genuinely screwed. There was nothing else I could do. I found an uplink and meleed it for the 5 wp but other than that I felt completely naked. Scout melee = San Francisco Slap
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Lentarr Legionaire
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Cass Caul
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Posted - 2013.12.19 08:12:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:What do most scouts do when they run out of ammo in an Ambush and no one has nanohives + there are no supply depots? Suicide-Melee brawl till death? Run around looking for a vehicle to hop in?
Because man I ran out of ammo in my pistol and laser rifle today and was genuinely screwed. There was nothing else I could do. I found an uplink and meleed it for the 5 wp but other than that I felt completely naked. Scout melee = San Francisco Slap
I get in mah dropship and start doing back flips and barrel rolls at maximum altitude. Or that is what I used to do. Now I pull out a MLT tank or Fed Madrugar.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1973
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Posted - 2013.12.19 08:51:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:What do most scouts do when they run out of ammo in an Ambush and no one has nanohives + there are no supply depots? Suicide-Melee brawl till death? Run around looking for a vehicle to hop in?
Because man I ran out of ammo in my pistol and laser rifle today and was genuinely screwed. There was nothing else I could do. I found an uplink and meleed it for the 5 wp but other than that I felt completely naked. Scout melee = San Francisco Slap Lol, this haappened to one of my corpmates in 1.6 and Richiesuite2 got him cornered but refused to kill him, just warning shots to his sides anytime he moved. Went on for like a minute before the game ended and then Richie sent him a message saying he's his b!tch now lol!
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Cass Caul
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Posted - 2013.12.19 08:54:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:What do most scouts do when they run out of ammo in an Ambush and no one has nanohives + there are no supply depots? Suicide-Melee brawl till death? Run around looking for a vehicle to hop in?
Because man I ran out of ammo in my pistol and laser rifle today and was genuinely screwed. There was nothing else I could do. I found an uplink and meleed it for the 5 wp but other than that I felt completely naked. Scout melee = San Francisco Slap Lol, this haappened to one of my corpmates in 1.6 and Richiesuite2 got him cornered but refused to kill him, just warning shots to his sides anytime he moved. Went on for like a minute before the game ended and then Richie sent him a message saying he's his b!tch now lol!
lmao, I can imagine richie doing that.
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1973
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Posted - 2013.12.19 13:09:00 -
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Somoe's requesting more HP for scouts - help me to educate this poor deluded soul please https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=130428&find=unread
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Scout Registry
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Posted - 2013.12.19 13:16:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:What do most scouts do when they run out of ammo in an Ambush and no one has nanohives + there are no supply depots?
Attempt to climb the nearest Logi. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
950
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Posted - 2013.12.19 13:27:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:What do most scouts do when they run out of ammo in an Ambush and no one has nanohives + there are no supply depots? Suicide-Melee brawl till death? Run around looking for a vehicle to hop in?
Because man I ran out of ammo in my pistol and laser rifle today and was genuinely screwed. There was nothing else I could do. I found an uplink and meleed it for the 5 wp but other than that I felt completely naked. Scout melee = San Francisco Slap
^ There's your problem.
Why anyone plays ambush, I'll never understand. It is such a horribly designed gamemode.
As for the ammo issue, if the logis are being misers then I suicide. This only works since I run cheap fits but it's faster than annoying people till they drop a nanohive.
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Scout Registry
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Posted - 2013.12.19 15:09:00 -
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Be on the look out for "Random Suicides" ...
Randomly died once (Suicide) while setting a Rally Point via overhead map. Randomly died once (Suicide) while in Redline with count-down time remaining. Randomly died once (Suicide) after returning from Redline (count-down no longer displayed).
... haven't had this problem before; perhaps something else was changed? |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2013.12.19 15:27:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:What do most scouts do when they run out of ammo in an Ambush and no one has nanohives + there are no supply depots? Suicide-Melee brawl till death? Run around looking for a vehicle to hop in?
Because man I ran out of ammo in my pistol and laser rifle today and was genuinely screwed. There was nothing else I could do. I found an uplink and meleed it for the 5 wp but other than that I felt completely naked. Scout melee = San Francisco Slap I have melee'd my way to death before once. My most common resupply when there is no supplies to be had is the RE Nanohive. Find enemies place RE detonate, chose new spawn location and voila full ammo.
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TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR
F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME
1014
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Posted - 2013.12.19 15:42:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:What do most scouts do when they run out of ammo in an Ambush and no one has nanohives + there are no supply depots? Suicide-Melee brawl till death? Run around looking for a vehicle to hop in?
Because man I ran out of ammo in my pistol and laser rifle today and was genuinely screwed. There was nothing else I could do. I found an uplink and meleed it for the 5 wp but other than that I felt completely naked. Scout melee = San Francisco Slap ^ There's your problem. Why anyone plays ambush, I'll never understand. It is such a horribly designed gamemode. As for the ammo issue, if the logis are being misers and there are no supply depots then I suicide. I run cheap fits so I don't lose much and it's faster than annoying people till they drop a nanohive. it helps to have a blood raiders saga.
especially since I run proto almost all the time, I can't just commit suicide when I'm out of ammo.
Tell me, how exactly DOES a biscuit gain Valor?
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Quil Evrything
Triple Terrors
577
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Posted - 2013.12.19 17:20:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:Quil Evrything wrote: trick with non-proto, is to pre-scout around for nanohive or supply depot near your target. you can only carry 3, but have 4 active. So, drop 2, resupply, then drop 2 more.
6,0000, oh yeah.
chances are you only have one shot.
yes and no. It's common for me while playing anti-tank RE, to slap on 1 or 2 REs on the thing... then he drives off. Then I get to watch "the amazing travelling RE markers" wander around the map :D
Which makes it somewhat easy to go resupply, and hunt them down again to finish the job. You've just lojacked the sucker.
The tricky part, is not reapproaching, until they settle down to stay somewhere. It's like freaking stalking a wild animal, for wrestling purposes rather than shooting at it. Varrry Trickeh.
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
847
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Posted - 2013.12.19 19:06:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Be on the look out for "Random Suicides" ... Randomly died by Suicide while setting a Rally Point via overhead map. Randomly died by Suicide while in Redline with count-down time remaining. Randomly died by Suicide after returning from Redline (count-down no longer displayed). ... haven't had this problem before; perhaps bad luck or something else was changed.
I haven't had any of these yet.... but you what has been happening to me on more than a few occasions? When I jump out of the MCC and hit my dampeners, I hit the ground and then immediately die. Maybe some lag issue? It happens on games with no lag though.. once it happened to me TWICE in a row on the same game.
I had a KDR of 0/2 before anyone had even taken the first shot of the game! Plus I looked like a tool on the kill feed.... rrrrggggg!! This happens way to damn often.....
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noob cavman
Tickle My Null-Sac
298
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Posted - 2013.12.19 19:33:00 -
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My jihadlav has had alot infidels sent to their next life today. with alot less pocket change mind you
Tickle my null-sack weapons guy.
Teabagging the universe one merc at a time
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