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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2027
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:20:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:Really? I'll swap out my Allotek Breach for an aRR and try this out. nvmd......
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Cass Caul
514
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:24:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Really? I'll swap out my Allotek Breach for an aRR and try this out. Anything but a Thale's....
Um, what?
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A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2027
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:25:00 -
[5133] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Really? I'll swap out my Allotek Breach for an aRR and try this out. nvmd.... Um, what? Lol, nothing.
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Cass Caul
514
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:28:00 -
[5134] - Quote
Patrick57 wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Really? I'll swap out my Allotek Breach for an aRR and try this out. nvmd.... Um, what? Lol, nothing.
Oh, that's cool. I did not notice that if you quoted a post and it was edited that it changed the quote too. And tell Zatara my scrambler pistol says "hi"
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A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2027
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:30:00 -
[5135] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:Oh, that's cool. I did not notice that if you quoted a post and it was edited that it changed the quote too. And tell Zatara my scrambler pistol says "hi" Oh, sounds like something happened :/ I wasn't there for any of those battles, Zatara wouldn't pull me in (for obvious reasons) so I guess I will.
Btw, I was referring to the match yesterday that I was in, I saw you using a Thale's and then I think I killed you once (hard to tell, I was lagging so much).
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Cass Caul
516
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:33:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Oh, that's cool. I did not notice that if you quoted a post and it was edited that it changed the quote too. And tell Zatara my scrambler pistol says "hi" Oh, sounds like something happened :/ I wasn't there for any of those battles, Zatara wouldn't pull me in (for obvious reasons) so I guess I will. Btw, I was referring to the match yesterday that I was in, I saw you using a Thale's and then I think I killed you once (hard to tell, I was lagging so much).
nothing happened, I've just been getting him with that weapon a lot lately- i've been getting people in proto assault suits with the basic one too lol. You probably did get me if we were in a match together. My KDR is like 1.75 for this war. But I have pulled out the thal'es three times and lost none of my remaining 3
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A girl, on the internet?! I roll to disbelieve.
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Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
2027
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Posted - 2013.12.13 02:35:00 -
[5137] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:Patrick57 wrote:Cass Caul wrote:Oh, that's cool. I did not notice that if you quoted a post and it was edited that it changed the quote too. And tell Zatara my scrambler pistol says "hi" Oh, sounds like something happened :/ I wasn't there for any of those battles, Zatara wouldn't pull me in (for obvious reasons) so I guess I will. Btw, I was referring to the match yesterday that I was in, I saw you using a Thale's and then I think I killed you once (hard to tell, I was lagging so much). nothing happened, I've just been getting him with that weapon a lot lately- i've been getting people in proto assault suits with the basic one too lol. You probably did get me if we were in a match together. My KDR is like 1.75 for this war. But I have pulled out the thal'es three times and lost none of my remaining 3 Lol my k/dr for what little of this war I've participated in is like 0.3 ish. But you and your goddamn Thale's just scare the **** out of me....
When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE!
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Amruk Jackal
R 0 N 1 N
49
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:19:00 -
[5138] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:Amruk Jackal wrote:So... Are scouts dead or just this topic? The Killboard has been memorialized and is no longer being updated. The thread remains active in continued discussion of all things Scoutly.
Ooh, okay. I'm just taking a very long break from this game, pretty much lost my drive after lightning left. Also having GT6 as well lol, I love racing more than I love fps games. |
Scout Registry
40
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:26:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Kind of enjoying scouts when I get to play a proper match, but every match I've played lately has just devolved into tank spam everywhere.
It's not fun - I saw a 145 - 0 Skirmish match today.
Tank Spam is out of control. It quite literally ruins every other match I play. The maps aren't big enough, our spawn system isn't smart enough, and our AV isn't effective enough to cope with current degree of spam.
Something needs to happen to thin the numbers. A price increase would be a good start. A clever guy wrote today:
"... you mean to tell me (CCP) that it costs more to manufacture a Rifle than it does a Tank?"
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
889
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:45:00 -
[5140] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote: "... you mean to tell me (CCP) that it costs more to manufacture a Rifle than it does a Tank?"
Well, maybe a Minmatar tank.
The only saving grace I've had against tanks is that they are way too eager to hunt us ground pounders and roll past too fast to properly see me.
I do hope CCP fixes the militia injector soon. They also have really fast acceleration, right? I hope that gets reduced as well.
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Scout Registry
40
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:49:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Scout Registry wrote: "... you mean to tell me (CCP) that it costs more to manufacture a Rifle than it does a Tank?" Well, maybe a Minmatar tank. The only saving grace I've had against tanks is that they are way too eager to hunt us ground pounders and roll past too fast to properly see me. I do hope CCP fixes the militia injector soon. They also have really fast acceleration, right? I hope that gets reduced as well.
I was under the impression that they fixed it. I've seen zero tanks airborne today. Either way, multi-tank matches -- especially Ambush matches -- should be a rare and ridiculous spectacle ... they're presently the norm and its not getting any better.
I deeply hope that everyone dumps millions of SP into tanks before they're nerfed again. |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
890
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:51:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:I was under the impression that they fixed it. I've seen zero tanks airborne today. Either way, multi-tank matches -- especially Ambush matches -- are ridiculous.
They did already? Why isn't CCP telling us these things? They could have eased a lot scout ire by telling us ahead of time they were going to remove installation scanning.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws WINMATAR.
2243
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Posted - 2013.12.13 03:53:00 -
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Every match I've played today has had 4 tanks constantly. While some maps, this isn't much of a bother, other maps such as ashlands and manus peak are decided by who has the most tanks as you cannot take or defend points as they're sitting right in the open where tanks can hit them from anywhere or drive right up to them. Pretty frustrating.
Got banned from FW for remoting a red tank. Woooo.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Scout Registry
40
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Posted - 2013.12.13 05:07:00 -
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This is what happens when tankers get what they want. They ask to be invulnerable. They get it. Now that they have it ... They're whining about it!!! They're asking for more!!!
Why, you ask? How is this possible?
You see, if all tanks are equally invincible then its impossible to tell the rookies from the vets. And that's not fair to vets. So ...
Option A) Undue invincibility, adjust pricing, solve the problem. Option B) Reduce rabble gear invincibility; widen gap. Option C) Make the vets double invincible; widen gap. <----- do it! we need moar invincible.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=128297&find=unread
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
890
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Posted - 2013.12.13 05:47:00 -
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Quote:But the problem is that you get players that aren't interested into specializing into vehicles that get themselves Somas with 0 SP and murder infantry while they are rarely threatened by AV. And it's alright for people who have speced into tanks to be never threatened by AV?
This is why of all the groups in Dust, I'm the least sympathetic for the tankers. I understood pre-1.7 that their vehicles were fairly UP but their most vocal members just kill any chance of me supporting them.
Heavies may occasionally ask for somethings that will help too much, but on the whole they are reasonable Dropship pilots approached their issues reasonably (mainly through the campaigning of Judge) Even the logis were reasonable when it came to discussions on how to nerf themselves.
But tankers? The most vocal bunch seem to think that anyone who disagrees with their demands are scrubs and should be unintelligibly yelled at.
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Niuvo
NECROM0NGERS Covert Intervention
862
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Posted - 2013.12.13 08:01:00 -
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Hello scouts, checking in here. This build has hit me hard. It is the hardest of all previous builds imo. I find it hard to function as a scout against proto squads. I hope 1.8 brings us good news. The dev blog where they speak about scouts is amazing. Good job Knight S. I grief a lot when I play in FW. Turalyon is the chat name for gal FW. |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1899
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Posted - 2013.12.13 08:39:00 -
[5147] - Quote
Thanks for the feedback on my skills everyone. I decided to go for lvl 3 remotes and will probably get my last 2 levels in plates next if only for the buff to my enhanced ones. Turns out i can actually fit the F45s on some of my pc fits, so might be able to take out that pesky tank always guarding d on skim junction afterall!
Still haven't played a game in 1.7 yet. Will try again at the weekend.
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Oswald Rehnquist
867
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Posted - 2013.12.13 10:25:00 -
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We have all read the blog about scouts but I wanted to look at this closer, because I think it gives out the direction they are going.
Quote:The Scout role will get very high PG/CPU bonuses to fitting cloak equipment, making it just about the only role that can feasibly fit a cloak field without having to sacrifice the rest of its fit. Individual race skill bonuses will create opportunities for cloaked scouts to scan further and longer than other dropsuits, to have less GÇ£shimmerGÇ¥ as they move, and have lower innate scan profiles so that they can be visually and electronically invisible. These should help create more useful assassins, intel gatherers, and saboteurs. And in time, the introduction of additional Scout specializations will be added to further push the boundaries of the little Light Suit That Could.
Did you guys notice this? If I am reading this right? The scan profile reduction will be one of the racials and not the universal scout bonus. Which means maybe the cpu/pg reduction will become the scout bonus based on the wording.
Also what do you think it means by scanning longer especially when used after the word choice further? Is he referring to the active scanner or is it suggested that passive scans are not 100% or perhaps a lingering effect to passive scanning?
Why I find this interesting is because it looks like we might be getting tied to equipment, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but it is note worthy nonetheless.
Also the later features are what I believe will be offensive ewar.
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Morathi III
Policeman of the Federation
79
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Posted - 2013.12.13 11:34:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Every match I've played today has had 4 tanks constantly. While some maps, this isn't much of a bother, other maps such as ashlands and manus peak are decided by who has the most tanks as you cannot take or defend points as they're sitting right in the open where tanks can hit them from anywhere or drive right up to them. Pretty frustrating.
Got banned from FW for remoting a red tank. Woooo. I asked myself Cyrius, did you take rookie under your wings if they are 100% minmatar in dropsuit and weapon? |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
893
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Posted - 2013.12.13 13:28:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:-Snip- The way he states it, it seems like we will have additional effects while cloaked. E.G. Mins shimmer less so they can move faster, gal scouts have increased scan range while cloaked, some scout will have lower profile, etc..
That hopefully won't require our class bonus to be changed (or the Gal racial since it just finally became a useful bonus). If they remove our 25% scan profile reduction, I'm done unless they reduce our base scan profile to be similar to a lvl5 scout. To lose our greatest advantage to become "burst" stealth units and be just as detectable to the next bloke when not bursting? Would be the dumbest decision CCP has made yet and ruin the game to me.
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Scout Registry
42
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Posted - 2013.12.13 13:53:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:We have all read the blog about scouts but I wanted to look at this closer, because I think it gives out the direction they are going. Quote:The Scout role will get very high PG/CPU bonuses to fitting cloak equipment, making it just about the only role that can feasibly fit a cloak field without having to sacrifice the rest of its fit. Individual race skill bonuses will create opportunities for cloaked scouts to scan further and longer than other dropsuits, to have less GÇ£shimmerGÇ¥ as they move, and have lower innate scan profiles so that they can be visually and electronically invisible. These should help create more useful assassins, intel gatherers, and saboteurs. And in time, the introduction of additional Scout specializations will be added to further push the boundaries of the little Light Suit That Could. Did you guys notice this? If I am reading this right? The scan profile reduction will be one of the racials and not the universal scout bonus. Which means maybe the cpu/pg reduction will become the scout bonus based on the wording. Also what do you think it means by scanning longer especially when used after the word choice further? Is he referring to the active scanner or is it suggested that passive scans are not 100% or perhaps a lingering effect to passive scanning? Why I find this interesting is because it looks like we might be getting tied to equipment, which isn't necessarily a bad thing but it is note worthy nonetheless. Also the later features are what I believe will be offensive ewar. Good stuff, Oswald. You noticed some things I missed, and I'm glad you brought this back up. This all sounds exciting, but there's potential here for zero sum game ... think about it ...
Three Questions for Scouts
Given: Assume cloak is released as a piece of equipment tailored to the Scout.
Question 1) As a Scout, what combat / support functions do you currently perform most often? Question 2) In performing those functions, which equipment type currently serves you best? Question 3) If said equipment were replaced by cloak, could you perform that function?
The MedFrames cried "unfair" when we asked that cloak be "built-in" to our suits; so we've asked for a second equipment slot. Let's cross our fingers and hope that someone was listening. Otherwise, we will only trade one form of ineffective for another.
TL;DR - Scouts will need two equipment slots if Cloak is released as Equipment. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
6093
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Posted - 2013.12.13 13:57:00 -
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I've converted to passive scan fitting my scouts.
It's beautiful.
I actually had very poor scan range during this match, but it saved me so many times nonetheless.
Level 6 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
897
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:01:00 -
[5153] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:Three Questions for Scouts
Given: Assume cloak is released as a piece of equipment tailored to the Scout.
Question 1) As a Scout, what combat / support functions do you currently perform most often? Question 2) In performing those functions, which equipment type currently serves you best? Question 3) If said equipment were replaced by cloak, could you perform that function?
1) Objective defense or infiltration 2) Uplinks or nanos 3) Greatly reduced ability to do so. If I don't use an uplink, I may not be able to quickly get support. If I exchange the nano and I don't have access to a supply depot, long infiltrations or constant defending would cause me to run out of ammo fairly quickly.
TBH, I don't have much use for a cloak. I'm satisfied with my level of stealth I currently have. If given a 2nd equip slot, I'd probably just run with uplinks + nanos.
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Scout Registry
42
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:11:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1599680#post1599680 Help me get Shotty on the Dust514 hall of fame. It's a player made community Hall of Fame, dedicated to honoring the "Unsung Hero's" of Dust514. Imagine what he would do if he came back and found that
Shotty stirs in shallow grave to say, "Thanks, guys. Honored. Must decline. Advised Zion Shad. Will not be returning to Forums. Word "unsuicide" does not exist. Clone Reanimation, non-option. Soul required. Ginger lacks." |
Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
897
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:14:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Shotty stirs in shallow grave to say, "Thanks, guys. Honored. Must decline. Advised Zion Shad. Will not be returning to Forums. Word "unsuicide" does not exist. Clone Reanimation, non-option for ginger Scout. It is known that gingers have no soul."
It's a hall of fame. People are inducted into those based on performance/contribution and doesn't require the inductee to be alive.
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Scout Registry
42
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:16:00 -
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Krom Ganesh wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Shotty stirs in shallow grave to say, "Thanks, guys. Honored. Must decline. Advised Zion Shad. Will not be returning to Forums. Word "unsuicide" does not exist. Clone Reanimation, non-option for ginger Scout. It is known that gingers have no soul." It's a hall of fame. People are inducted into those based on performance/contribution and doesn't require the inductee to be alive.
Shotty says, "Then I nominate Calamity Jane and Annie Oakley. These are heroes. I am not." |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
6097
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:48:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Shotty stirs in shallow grave to say, "Thanks, guys. Honored. Must decline. Advised Zion Shad. Will not be returning to Forums. Word "unsuicide" does not exist. Clone Reanimation, non-option for ginger Scout. It is known that gingers have no soul." It's a hall of fame. People are inducted into those based on performance/contribution and doesn't require the inductee to be alive. Shotty says, "Then I nominate Calamity Jane and Annie Oakley. These are heroes. I am not." Pretty words about Scouts or a Scout figurehead aren't the payout we're seeking. My suit is broken. Your suit is broken. This has been the case for six months. Now is no time for vanity. Rather, let's put our effort into pointing CCP in the right direction. When they do -- finally -- get around to us, we don't want them over-correcting (like they did with tanks) or under-correcting (as their MedFrame advisors would have them). They need input from us ... rather, from you guys ... so they won't be led astray by the ill-informed, the tourists and the entitled.
Seven months, now.
Level 6 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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Scout Registry
44
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:49:00 -
[5158] - Quote
Good news!
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1603874#post1603874
* Militia turbo-boost was disabled. * Tanks will likely be slowed down a 'bit.
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Krom Ganesh
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
901
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:51:00 -
[5159] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:They need input from us ... rather, from you guys ... so they won't be led astray by the ill-informed, the tourists and the entitled.
Well, CCP has over 250 pages of input. They should get to reading.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
6097
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Posted - 2013.12.13 14:51:00 -
[5160] - Quote
It's not enough.
Level 6 Forum Warrior
Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution
Gallente FW - 'Turalyon'
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