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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.20 09:45:00 -
[44131] - Quote
Dreis tell us good news pls.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
13
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Posted - 2015.08.20 12:40:00 -
[44132] - Quote
J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Break from dust. Even jumping on once a week for what like 4 games was just too annoying and lacked what games should offer : fun. XD (wrote out reasons but realized there was no point) XD I've been thinking about this one all night. Do you guys have any ideas? How can we make Dust more fun/entertaining?
CPM Sgt Kirk - On Community
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.20 13:00:00 -
[44133] - Quote
@ Varoth
I agree with you - I almost touched upon how we actually deal with the outcomes of our judgements originally, but it was already turning into an essay and as you suspected, wasn't the crux of the matter for me. Though you are not too much of a pacifist - bending opinions ain't on and does not promote thinking for yourself.
As you said, we should be careful in how we air our opinions if we wish to keep credibility. I would say though that opinions shouldn't be brought to bear at all - except to say "look at this, and here is my opinion of it". "Rallying others to a cause" is not what I would see; I switch off if I see people doing that, because it's borderline propaganda at that point and likely to be self-serving.
I appreciate it when people take the time to summarise what others have said - if I am interested in that person myself, it means I can decide what I think of it. It is down to me to understand that it may be one-sided, missing context, and I must judge it for myself. I may seek to find more evidence to provide further or potentially missing context, or I may trust the person posting enough to accept there is no propaganda involved. That trust, or lack of, will be based on previous interactions, and what others may have already said.
The person posting this information may choose to tell me their opinions, but if they are trying to impose their opinions on me, then I probably won't bother reading any further as it means it is likely to be one-sided.
If it is factual, then there should be no emotion, no personal like or dislike, merely a presentation of facts. However if I am the one presenting the facts, I must be aware that others may not like it. That too is a judgement call. I can decide whether or not I care if people will dislike me for it, or whether it serves well for the discussion or knowledge dissemination I wish to come of it.
Is it going to make things a little better, or, despite good intentions, is it going to cause a shitstorm where nothing good comes of it?. This is an important consideration.
To call it for what it is in basic terms: I see someone doing something, and I think to myself, hmmm, that guy is a hypocrite isn't he? Didn't he say something different last week? Lemme go back and check...yes he did. Damn I gotta let people know he *might* be selling them a story. "Hey guys - I pulled up this information - see what you think" (think for yourself).
TL;DR
Nobody likes being called out. Anybody being called out is likely to dislike those doing it. Doesn't mean you shouldn't call them out. Doesn't mean that you should. But if you do, unfortunately people may seek to paint you in a negative light. Just for stating facts.
If, on the other hand, you are attempting to "rally" people to believe your opinion, then you may not have stated all the facts. You will be using propaganda, and your motives will be self-serving. Unfortunately, some people are sheep and will believe everything is as it seems.
If you do it often enough, people may identify you as "that guy that does that thing". However, some people's opinion of "that thing" will be positive, and for others it will be negative. Or, I suppose you may just not give a ****. Either way, is the opinion yours, or is it someone else's?
Holy **** it does sound like court.
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy No Context
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Posted - 2015.08.20 13:02:00 -
[44134] - Quote
IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:@ Varoth
I agree with you - I almost touched upon how we actually deal with the outcomes of our judgements originally, but it was already turning into an essay and as you suspected, wasn't the crux of the matter for me. Though you are not too much of a pacifist - bending opinions ain't on and does not promote thinking for yourself.
As you said, we should be careful in how we air our opinions if we wish to keep credibility. I would say though that opinions shouldn't be brought to bear at all - except to say "look at this, and here is my opinion of it". "Rallying others to a cause" is not what I would see; I switch off if I see people doing that, because it's borderline propaganda at that point and likely to be self-serving.
I appreciate it when people take the time to summarise what others have said - if I am interested in that person myself, it means I can decide what I think of it. It is down to me to understand that it may be one-sided, missing context, and I must judge it for myself. I may seek to find more evidence to provide further or potentially missing context, or I may trust the person posting enough to accept there is no propaganda involved. That trust, or lack of, will be based on previous interactions, and what others may have already said.
The person posting this information may choose to tell me their opinions, but if they are trying to impose their opinions on me, then I probably won't bother reading any further as it means it is likely to be one-sided.
If it is factual, then there should be no emotion, no personal like or dislike, merely a presentation of facts. However if I am the one presenting the facts, I must be aware that others may not like it. That too is a judgement call. I can decide whether or not I care if people will dislike me for it, or whether it serves well for the discussion or knowledge dissemination I wish to come of it.
Is it going to make things a little better, or, despite good intentions, is it going to cause a shitstorm where nothing good comes of it?. This is an important consideration.
To call it for what it is in basic terms: I see someone doing something, and I think to myself, hmmm, that guy is a hypocrite isn't he? Didn't he say something different last week? Lemme go back and check...yes he did. Damn I gotta let people know he *might* be selling them a story. "Hey guys - I pulled up this information - see what you think" (think for yourself).
TL;DR
Nobody likes being called out. Anybody being called out is likely to dislike those doing it. Doesn't mean you shouldn't call them out. Doesn't mean that you should. But if you do, unfortunately people may seek to paint you in a negative light. Just for stating facts.
If, on the other hand, you are attempting to "rally" people to believe your opinion, then you may not have stated all the facts. You will be using propaganda, and your motives will be self-serving. Unfortunately, some people are sheep and will believe everything is as it seems.
If you do it often enough, people may identify you as "that guy that does that thing". However, some people's opinion of "that thing" will be positive, and for others it will be negative. Or, I suppose you may just not give a ****. Either way, is the opinion yours, or is it someone else's?
Holy **** it does sound like court. TL;DR is still too ******* long
20.6m SP...
yay 20m
18/8/15
2 days left of passive triple stack boosting
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Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2015.08.20 14:05:00 -
[44135] - Quote
Thanks again for the reply Duncan. Very interesting points about the nature of community, discussion and human interaction. Feels like forum behaviour and international diplomacy aren't far from each other!
The only thing I would add, is that people can do their best to act for others, try to be truthful and present all the facts, and yet still be wrong or miss out facts. It's not necessarily intentional misleading that causes problems. Often it's unintentional. Hence why a bit of humility is sometimes needed.
Anyway, I'm sure the new CPM will be good. And, as always, the Barbershop is an awesome place to discuss the game. |
Varoth Drac
Dead Man's Game
1
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Posted - 2015.08.20 14:08:00 -
[44136] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Break from dust. Even jumping on once a week for what like 4 games was just too annoying and lacked what games should offer : fun. XD (wrote out reasons but realized there was no point) XD I've been thinking about this one all night. Do you guys have any ideas? How can we make Dust more fun/entertaining? No frame rate drop, particularly in PC. Being able to get into FW matches (EU time zone). More game modes other than just domination. Pub match rewards that encourage fighting, not giving up.
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.20 15:00:00 -
[44137] - Quote
Alright, the results are in!
Overall, I did pretty well. I met all the requirements that I needed to do my A-Level courses. I got, in total, in all my years of doing GCSEs (I started in Year 9, when I was 13), 1 A*, 4 A's, 4 B 's and 3 C's/Passes. Here's the breakdown:
A* - Chemistry A - English Language A - English Literature A - Mathematics A - Physics B - Business and Communication Systems B - History B - Psychology B - Geography C - Biology C - French Pass - IT
I start sixth form on the 7th of September, and I'll be studying A-Level English Language, History, Government & Politics, and BTEC Level 3 Applied Law.
I'd like to work as a barrister someday.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.20 15:40:00 -
[44138] - Quote
Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Alright, the results are in! Overall, I did pretty well. I met all the requirements that I needed to do my A-Level courses. I got, in total, in all my years of doing GCSEs (I started in Year 9, when I was 13), 1 A*, 4 A's, 4 B 's and 3 C's/Passes. Here's the breakdown: A* - Chemistry A - Mathematics A - Physics
*approving nod*
Well done!
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2015.08.20 16:32:00 -
[44139] - Quote
Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Alright, the results are in! Overall, I did pretty well. I met all the requirements that I needed to do my A-Level courses. I got, in total, in all my years of doing GCSEs (I started in Year 9, when I was 13), 1 A*, 4 A's, 4 B 's and 3 C's/Passes. Here's the breakdown: A* - Chemistry A - Mathematics A - Physics *approving nod* Well done! Thank you!
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Diablo Gamekeeper
Corrosive Synergy No Context
587
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:00:00 -
[44140] - Quote
+1 for largest thread in dust history?
I'm back
Rainbow Dash
I have DESTROYED CCP Rattati
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
12
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:33:00 -
[44141] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:VAHZZ wrote:mollerz wrote:Someone here mentioned the binding of isaac during the cheap game convo... I had always had my eye on that game. I finally got it.. way fun. I have no ******* idea what I am doing.. but I am getting better at it.
Fun stuff! I finally got to the skull level and then died. lol.
Buy Chrono Trigger. You are welcome. Dud eI just looked at the wiki and honestly was not peaked at all. Is that normal? Seriously MollerzGǪ Get Chrono Trigger. Solid gameplay, excellent story, great characters. The black wind howls
Secret of Evermore was my jam
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
7
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:41:00 -
[44142] - Quote
Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:+1 for largest thread in dust history?
Largest thread in EVE history as well I believe.
OG Taco Assault // I survived Survivor // Director of V-F
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
2
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:50:00 -
[44143] - Quote
The last post by by CCP Rattati was on 2015.08.05 22:40.
:(
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Immortal John Ripper
28
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:55:00 -
[44144] - Quote
VAHZZ wrote:Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:+1 for largest thread in dust history? Largest thread in EVE history as well I believe. You're welcome.
One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass.
Congratz dries shadowbeaver!!!!!
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:55:00 -
[44145] - Quote
VAHZZ wrote:Diablo Gamekeeper wrote:+1 for largest thread in dust history? Largest thread in EVE history as well I believe. You're welcome.
One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass.
Congratz dries shadowbeaver!!!!!
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
13
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:59:00 -
[44146] - Quote
Ares 514 wrote:The last post by by CCP Rattati was on 2015.08.05 22:40.
:(
A well deserved vacation, I think.
CPM Sgt Kirk - On Community
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
13
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:10:00 -
[44147] - Quote
I think this might make DUST more interesting ...
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2923326#post2923326
... what do you think?
CPM Sgt Kirk - On Community
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mollerz
6
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:13:00 -
[44148] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:The last post by by CCP Rattati was on 2015.08.05 22:40.
:(
A well deserved vacation, I think.
Hopefully he's rocking a mai tai on a white sand beach surrounded by beautiful people. no wait scratch that..
Hopefully, he's just crawling out of bedroom of naked people in some completely fubar hotel room hung over off his ass... no wait scratch that...
Hopefully... no wait..Actually I think I nailed it one way or another. In a hope sense. |
VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
7
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:14:00 -
[44149] - Quote
I sometimes wonder if mollerz is actually SoTa in alt form....
OG Taco Assault // I survived Survivor // Director of V-F
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:32:00 -
[44150] - Quote
VAHZZ wrote:I sometimes wonder if mollerz is actually SoTa in alt form.... mollerz seems more intelligent than sota though
One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass.
Congratz dries shadowbeaver!!!!!
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:32:00 -
[44151] - Quote
VAHZZ wrote:I sometimes wonder if mollerz is actually SoTa in alt form.... mollerz seems more intelligent than sota though
One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass.
Congratz dries shadowbeaver!!!!!
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
7
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:34:00 -
[44152] - Quote
Immortal John Ripper wrote:VAHZZ wrote:I sometimes wonder if mollerz is actually SoTa in alt form.... mollerz seems more intelligent than sota though Hey, i thought we were not allowed to burn SoTa?
OG Taco Assault // I survived Survivor // Director of V-F
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:41:00 -
[44153] - Quote
VAHZZ wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:VAHZZ wrote:I sometimes wonder if mollerz is actually SoTa in alt form.... mollerz seems more intelligent than sota though Hey, i thought we were not allowed to burn SoTa?
I constantly am forgetting that he gave me 100m+
but I try to be nicer when I do actually remember which is only like 30% of the time.
One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass.
Congratz dries shadowbeaver!!!!!
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:41:00 -
[44154] - Quote
VAHZZ wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:VAHZZ wrote:I sometimes wonder if mollerz is actually SoTa in alt form.... mollerz seems more intelligent than sota though Hey, i thought we were not allowed to burn SoTa?
I constantly am forgetting that he gave me 100m+
but I try to be nicer when I do actually remember which is only like 30% of the time.
One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass.
Congratz dries shadowbeaver!!!!!
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VAHZZ
Vader's-Fist
7
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:45:00 -
[44155] - Quote
Immortal John Ripper wrote:VAHZZ wrote:Immortal John Ripper wrote:VAHZZ wrote:I sometimes wonder if mollerz is actually SoTa in alt form.... mollerz seems more intelligent than sota though Hey, i thought we were not allowed to burn SoTa? I constantly am forgetting that he gave me 100m+ He never gave me I$K...i am one broke ass alt....
OG Taco Assault // I survived Survivor // Director of V-F
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
12
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:48:00 -
[44156] - Quote
LOL LHughes
Reported him, hopefully others will too. I hope CCP goes all ChicagoCubs on him.
Currently listening to: Tsukihime OST
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:50:00 -
[44157] - Quote
Forced Death wrote:TL;DR is still too ******* long Yep - lol.
Ares 514 wrote:The last post by by CCP Rattati was on 2015.08.05 22:40.
:(
I believe this to be a good sign. Stuff getting done. Powercore me up with Wrongbox 2.0, Mission Running Levels 1 to 4, Sisters of Eve special mission arcs, and a pickaxe to smash rocks up for Crafting a new pair of boots with my horadric cube.
Did I mention SKINs for: - Diablo, Lord of Terror - that meathead from TF2 - Avacyn, Angel of Hope - Kermit the Frog
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
3
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:58:00 -
[44158] - Quote
Good job Dreis!
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Immortal John Ripper
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Posted - 2015.08.20 18:59:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote: LOL LHughesReported him, hopefully others will too. I hope CCP goes all ChicagoCubs on him. RW traders are the scum of the earth.
One day I am going to be on survivor and I will kick ass.
Congratz dries shadowbeaver!!!!!
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
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Posted - 2015.08.20 19:03:00 -
[44160] - Quote
Ghost Kaisar wrote:Llast 326 wrote:mollerz wrote:VAHZZ wrote:mollerz wrote:Someone here mentioned the binding of isaac during the cheap game convo... I had always had my eye on that game. I finally got it.. way fun. I have no ******* idea what I am doing.. but I am getting better at it.
Fun stuff! I finally got to the skull level and then died. lol.
Buy Chrono Trigger. You are welcome. Dud eI just looked at the wiki and honestly was not peaked at all. Is that normal? Seriously MollerzGǪ Get Chrono Trigger. Solid gameplay, excellent story, great characters. The black wind howls Secret of Evermore was my jam Never played itGǪ looked it up. I probably would have enjoyed that.
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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