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Varoth Drac wrote:

One Eyed King wrote:

@ Varoth

I think you bring up some great points.

Usually, when we have talked of active scanner problems, we have often been referring to the Gal Logi/Focused scanners you mentioned. It would probably help if we were always more clear about that.

I think your point about there not being a problem with a logi passive scanner would be alright if it didn't overlap so much with the Amarr bonuses, and I do think that a change for them to have biotics makes the most sense. The range amp nerf just hit them too hard.

I also wish there was a way to either make inner circles a hard number, or to make range amps only affect the medium and outer circles, but I don't recall if that is feasible or not.

With regards to Assaults, I think we have two problems. One is the EWAR, the other is the mobility/HP in combination. At this point I am indifferent towards which CCP should hopefully decide to adjust, so long as they aren't both adjusted concurrently.

1. I'm not convinced focused scans are a problem. Especially as they are squad only. If people feel they can't run their scout suits because they are always being scanned, then I've yet to hear about it. Extreme focused scanning use, to specifically counter all but the most damped scouts, is fine as long as people feel it's enough of a sacrifice to prevent the tactic being used often.

2. Yay for biotics Amarr! Just bear in mind last time it was mentioned, people outside the barbershop were against it.

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Haerr 2852	Posted - 2015.04.26 21:37:00 - [34441] - Quote Darth-Carbonite GIO made an awesome thing, check it out! Selling Officer Gear and BPOs
Dreis ShadowWeaver 0uter.Heaven Back and Forth 3197	Posted - 2015.04.26 21:38:00 - [34442] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: In other news, on the way back from a friends this morning...it rained like a mofo on me. Blue skies, sun beaming down, birds just singing away, then turn a corner and the skies opened up. Rain rain and more rain. When I finally got home, it stopped raining. X( Edit: XD I have one of the highest fun ratios in the game. What is fun? Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel Caldari blood, Minmatar heart <3 Day 10/30 exclusively Minja
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game RUST415 749	Posted - 2015.04.26 21:39:00 - [34443] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Ark! ARK! Some one be posting a real lengthy post! you have a brother in arm's ya brummie! Glad to hear it! Though I ain't no Brummie. Sometimes you've just gotta post big, or you leave out interconnected issues. Probably best if I try to keep it short.
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2793	Posted - 2015.04.26 21:45:00 - [34444] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: In other news, on the way back from a friends this morning...it rained like a mofo on me. Blue skies, sun beaming down, birds just singing away, then turn a corner and the skies opened up. Rain rain and more rain. When I finally got home, it stopped raining. X( Edit: XD I have one of the highest fun ratios in the game. What is fun? Riding in the rain? Not so much, before the rain yep yep. The ButtPirates Now Accepting Applications. XD TheYoutube
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23508	Posted - 2015.04.26 21:55:00 - [34445] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: noob cavman wrote: Ark! ARK! Some one be posting a real lengthy post! you have a brother in arm's ya brummie! Glad to hear it! Though I ain't no Brummie. Sometimes you've just gotta post big, or you leave out interconnected issues. Probably best if I try to keep it short. I'm not a 'Brummie' either, Mr Cavman is just one of the northern savages. potato Gallente Guide
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9782	Posted - 2015.04.26 21:58:00 - [34446] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Yay for biotics Amarr! Just bear in mind last time it was mentioned, people outside the barbershop were against it. Weird. I have seen at least one or two threads started by non barbershop people suggesting Amarr get a biotics bonus. I guess I just assumed it was well accepted. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game RUST415 752	Posted - 2015.04.26 22:05:00 - [34447] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: noob cavman wrote: Ark! ARK! Some one be posting a real lengthy post! you have a brother in arm's ya brummie! Glad to hear it! Though I ain't no Brummie. Sometimes you've just gotta post big, or you leave out interconnected issues. Probably best if I try to keep it short. I'm not a 'Brummie' either, Mr Cavman is just one of the northern savages. I'm originally from north of Birmingham (a bit), but now south. Guess I better try and fit in.... Get back down the mine Cavman you Northern barbarian! And learn to spell!
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game RUST415 752	Posted - 2015.04.26 22:06:00 - [34448] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: Yay for biotics Amarr! Just bear in mind last time it was mentioned, people outside the barbershop were against it. Weird. I have seen at least one or two threads started by non barbershop people suggesting Amarr get a biotics bonus. I guess I just assumed it was well accepted. I think it's controversial, I'm sure I remember some pretty fierce opposition. Perhaps I'm wrong.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2350	Posted - 2015.04.26 22:13:00 - [34449] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Varoth Drac wrote: noob cavman wrote: Ark! ARK! Some one be posting a real lengthy post! you have a brother in arm's ya brummie! Glad to hear it! Though I ain't no Brummie. Sometimes you've just gotta post big, or you leave out interconnected issues. Probably best if I try to keep it short. I'm not a 'Brummie' either, Mr Cavman is just one of the northern savages. I'm originally from north of Birmingham (a bit), but now south. Guess I better try and fit in.... Get back down the mine Cavman you Northern barbarian! And learn to spell! WRONG COUNTY YA SOUTHERN BADGER MOLESTERS You should fit in fine. Even if we are xenophobic bastards XD I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23510	Posted - 2015.04.26 22:28:00 - [34450] - Quote TIL what the roundabout capital of the world is Supreme Forum Warrior Gallente Guide

noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2353	Posted - 2015.04.26 22:31:00 - [34451] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: TIL what the roundabout capital of the world is The most depressing mistake of our country. you cant even get enough speed up to put your down! I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 23510	Posted - 2015.04.26 22:33:00 - [34452] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: TIL what the roundabout capital of the world is The most depressing mistake of our country. you cant even get enough speed up to put your down! Bruh. Roundabouts are wonderful things. Compared to American intersections, there is on average a 40% decrease in all accidents and a 90% drop in fatal ones when a traffic intersection is replaced by a roundabout. They also generally use less fuel. When we had an Olympic winner in this city, we named a roundabout after him. Supreme Forum Warrior Gallente Guide
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 9230	Posted - 2015.04.26 22:36:00 - [34453] - Quote @ Varoth I'll respond to your points in detail a 'bit later tonight. Have you looked at the passive scan stats of a Logi with 3 precision enhancers? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 9230	Posted - 2015.04.26 22:38:00 - [34454] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: @ Varoth I think you bring up some great points. Usually, when we have talked of active scanner problems, we have often been referring to the Gal Logi/Focused scanners you mentioned. It would probably help if we were always more clear about that. I think your point about there not being a problem with a logi passive scanner would be alright if it didn't overlap so much with the Amarr bonuses, and I do think that a change for them to have biotics makes the most sense. The range amp nerf just hit them too hard. I also wish there was a way to either make inner circles a hard number, or to make range amps only affect the medium and outer circles, but I don't recall if that is feasible or not. With regards to Assaults, I think we have two problems. One is the EWAR, the other is the mobility/HP in combination. At this point I am indifferent towards which CCP should hopefully decide to adjust, so long as they aren't both adjusted concurrently. Agreed on all points. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2354	Posted - 2015.04.26 22:44:00 - [34455] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: noob cavman wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: TIL what the roundabout capital of the world is The most depressing mistake of our country. you cant even get enough speed up to put your down! words Bruh. Can I go over 90 with my knee touching the ground? Don't use America as an example! The muppets kill them selves on lawn mowers! XD I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 9230	Posted - 2015.04.26 22:45:00 - [34456] - Quote Varoth Drac wrote: One Eyed King wrote: @ Varoth I think you bring up some great points. Usually, when we have talked of active scanner problems, we have often been referring to the Gal Logi/Focused scanners you mentioned. It would probably help if we were always more clear about that. I think your point about there not being a problem with a logi passive scanner would be alright if it didn't overlap so much with the Amarr bonuses, and I do think that a change for them to have biotics makes the most sense. The range amp nerf just hit them too hard. I also wish there was a way to either make inner circles a hard number, or to make range amps only affect the medium and outer circles, but I don't recall if that is feasible or not. With regards to Assaults, I think we have two problems. One is the EWAR, the other is the mobility/HP in combination. At this point I am indifferent towards which CCP should hopefully decide to adjust, so long as they aren't both adjusted concurrently. 1. I'm not convinced focused scans are a problem. Especially as they are squad only. If people feel they can't run their scout suits because they are always being scanned, then I've yet to hear about it. Extreme focused scanning use, to specifically counter all but the most damped scouts, is fine as long as people feel it's enough of a sacrifice to prevent the tactic being used often. 2. Yay for biotics Amarr! Just bear in mind last time it was mentioned, people outside the barbershop were against it. 1. In my opinion, focused scanners are OK unless they're wielded by a KB/M user. Rapid-fire, wide-area 21dB scans likely pose a greater a balance problem. 2. Any good reasons why? Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9787	Posted - 2015.04.26 22:48:00 - [34457] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: noob cavman wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: TIL what the roundabout capital of the world is The most depressing mistake of our country. you cant even get enough speed up to put your down! Bruh. Roundabouts are wonderful things. Compared to American intersections, there is on average a 40% decrease in all accidents and a 90% drop in fatal ones when a traffic intersection is replaced by a roundabout. They also generally use less fuel. When we had an Olympic winner in this city, we named a roundabout after him. FYI, roundabouts are making their way here. There is one not far from me, in a county that just a few years previous (5 maybe?) got its first escalator. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 7330	Posted - 2015.04.26 22:52:00 - [34458] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: noob cavman wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: TIL what the roundabout capital of the world is The most depressing mistake of our country. you cant even get enough speed up to put your down! Bruh. Roundabouts are wonderful things. Compared to American intersections, there is on average a 40% decrease in all accidents and a 90% drop in fatal ones when a traffic intersection is replaced by a roundabout. They also generally use less fuel. When we had an Olympic winner in this city, we named a roundabout after him. FYI, roundabouts are making their way here. There is one not far from me, in a county that just a few years previous (5 maybe?) got its first escalator. My municipality is putting them in everywhere nowGÇª. they put in at least 5 in the past 3 years. MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
Llast 326 An Arkhos 7331	Posted - 2015.04.26 23:00:00 - [34459] - Quote I think I was the only one really opposed to the Amarr Biotics bonus in house. If the bonus is to all three Biotics modules it stands a a bit much in my opinion. Bonus to melee, jump, sprint speed, stamina cap, and stamina regenGÇª seems like a lot. Amarr scout is not so UP as it seems. I honestly think that if scan range was still at 20m Amarr scout would be very solid. MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
Spademan 6396	Posted - 2015.04.26 23:01:00 - [34460] - Quote We have a roundabout so big they built a village in it. Carnaross I think it is. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.

Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2658	Posted - 2015.04.27 00:19:00 - [34461] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Regarding the utter mess that happened in the last few days, I have some opinions and want to give a stern talking to from some of you from the Barbershop, but I'll save that for whenever I get home I'm home! Good to be back. I won't be posting a big dramatic wall of text though, I think we've had enough of that for a while. And I know this is very late, so at the risk of being irrelevant: @Mollerz I know you like your braggadocio semi-roleplay shenanigans but please try to restrain yourself when the situation calls for it, between all the ramblings during the great raid of April '15 and scaring Aeon away when he was trying to make amends with the Barbershop I'd say it isn't doing us any favors @Mina Longstrike Try and keep the inflammatory rhetoric to a minimum please @Everyone else Two things, for starters please don't feed the trolls. A troll who shall remain unnamed wandered in here in the middle of all the nonsense and started tossing out obvious bait and you guys were taking the bait so hard he's probably considering taking up permanent residence here. Easiest way to get rid of a troll is to ignore them. Second, one of the things I took away from all this is we should try not to link to outside posts with a "get a load of this guy" attitude as much, it promotes dogpiling the thread and contributes to the "clannish" reputation have. Plus it's just plain impolite. Maybe we should brainstorm some house rules for the Barbershop to keep things more civil... er, maybe more guidelines than actual rules. I know it's probably a little silly for a person who only occasionally pops in and quips one-liners to waltz in here several days late and deliver a lecture so feel free to take this with as many grains of salt as you prefer. (Also note that despite my avatar I'm about as Gallente as a paper bag, so any silly notions of RP bias can be thrown right out the window) Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2658	Posted - 2015.04.27 00:20:00 - [34462] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Spademan wrote: Sad news. I may not be able to play Dust for long. Keep getting an issue with the leaderboard loading up when I sprint. I'd put it down to the controller being wonky (It's older than the ps3 itself) but it doesn't cause any problems with any other game, and I plugged in the newer, shinier one and it didn't change. So yeah, gonna post about it in the bugs but if it doesn't change then welp. I had the same thing happen to me, I'm tempted to believe Dust caused it because it started with Dust and eventually started happening everywhere. Easiest way to test "everywhere" is on the PS3 main menu. It's made my two newer controllers useless, but I have an older, lighter model of DS3 (without sixaxis I think) and it works like a charm. I'll let you know what model it is exactly tomorrow when I get home, but there's still hope! Alright I was incorrect, it seems there are two variants of the official PS3 controller, the Sixaxis and the Dualshock 3. The controller I have is the one that says "Sixaxis" and only Sixaxis at the very top, the newer versions say Sixaxis and Dualshock 3. Apparently the original Sixaxis are no longer in production but some are still available on Amazon (for quite cheap, I might add). If you want the specific model I use, it's a CECHZC1U. I've had it for years, it's been beaten up, taken apart and put back together, and it's never given me any problems (aside from the left joystick sticking up when you push it to the top, which is something that I actually love and miss whenever I use a different controller) Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2658	Posted - 2015.04.27 00:22:00 - [34463] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Regarding the utter mess that happened in the last few days, I have some opinions and want to give a stern talking to from some of you from the Barbershop, but I'll save that for whenever I get home Seems we are going to see Fifty Shades of Pseudowned again Something like that Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
First Prophet Nos Nothi 2850	Posted - 2015.04.27 00:28:00 - [34464] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: @Everyone else Two things, for starters please don't feed the trolls. A troll who shall remain unnamed wandered in here in the middle of all the nonsense and started tossing out obvious bait and you guys were taking the bait so hard he's probably considering taking up permanent residence here. Easiest way to get rid of a troll is to ignore them. Liar! Nobody took my bait :( People find this this review helpful!
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2659	Posted - 2015.04.27 00:36:00 - [34465] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: @Everyone else Two things, for starters please don't feed the trolls. A troll who shall remain unnamed wandered in here in the middle of all the nonsense and started tossing out obvious bait and you guys were taking the bait so hard he's probably considering taking up permanent residence here. Easiest way to get rid of a troll is to ignore them. Liar! Nobody took my bait :( It's because your bait was so eloquent and perfectly crafted that nobody dared take it. It deserves to sit hung up on the wall like the piece of fine art that it is. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 9790	Posted - 2015.04.27 00:41:00 - [34466] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: First Prophet wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: @Everyone else Two things, for starters please don't feed the trolls. A troll who shall remain unnamed wandered in here in the middle of all the nonsense and started tossing out obvious bait and you guys were taking the bait so hard he's probably considering taking up permanent residence here. Easiest way to get rid of a troll is to ignore them. Liar! Nobody took my bait :( It's because your bait was so eloquent and perfectly crafted that nobody dared take it. It deserves to sit hung up on the wall like the piece of fine art that it is. You sure you are talking about his bait? Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
First Prophet Nos Nothi 2853	Posted - 2015.04.27 00:43:00 - [34467] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: First Prophet wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: @Everyone else Two things, for starters please don't feed the trolls. A troll who shall remain unnamed wandered in here in the middle of all the nonsense and started tossing out obvious bait and you guys were taking the bait so hard he's probably considering taking up permanent residence here. Easiest way to get rid of a troll is to ignore them. Liar! Nobody took my bait :( It's because your bait was so eloquent and perfectly crafted that nobody dared take it. It deserves to sit hung up on the wall like the piece of fine art that it is. You sure you are talking about his bait? Sure as hell ain't that other guy's bait. People find this this review helpful!
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2659	Posted - 2015.04.27 00:51:00 - [34468] - Quote First Prophet wrote: One Eyed King wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: First Prophet wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: @Everyone else Two things, for starters please don't feed the trolls. A troll who shall remain unnamed wandered in here in the middle of all the nonsense and started tossing out obvious bait and you guys were taking the bait so hard he's probably considering taking up permanent residence here. Easiest way to get rid of a troll is to ignore them. Liar! Nobody took my bait :( It's because your bait was so eloquent and perfectly crafted that nobody dared take it. It deserves to sit hung up on the wall like the piece of fine art that it is. You sure you are talking about his bait? Sure as hell ain't that other guy's bait. The other guy's bait was like finger painting unto First Prophet's glorious Mona Lisa Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
First Prophet Nos Nothi 2854	Posted - 2015.04.27 00:59:00 - [34469] - Quote You're giving that guy too much credit. He just sharted super hard and he enjoyed the smell so much everyone was fooled into acknowledging him. People find this this review helpful!
Varoth Drac Dead Man's Game RUST415 755	Posted - 2015.04.27 01:07:00 - [34470] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: @ Varoth Have you looked at the passive scan stats of a Logi with 3 precision enhancers? I have. 12/24/31db. Excellent for scanning poorly damped scouts and assaults, though you only really need 2 precision to get excellent anti-assault scans. Thing is, in PC for example, you are very likely to have a Gallente logi somewhere spewing 21db scans all over whichever socket you find yourself in. A scout with a profile higher than 21db is kind of dead, and so probably pretty rare. I guess it would protect you from speed hacks (high slot codebreakers please). That's a pretty specific thing to sacrifice all those slots for. There is the inner ring, which is a pain, but it only takes one precision mod to make that nasty. So in a meta where scouts are focusing on getting below 21db, I don't see how some 24db logi scans are much of a threat. Whereas the 18db scans from an Amarr scout seem more dangerous. If we are discussing scanning mediums and heavies, ok, the logi scans are great, though active scanners are better. An Amarr scout can scan assaults at 30m with no module investment, whereas a logi can only scan them at 19m. It takes two precision mods before the logi can beat the Amarr scout, at which point the logi can scan assaults at 38m. But this is kind of irrelevant. You don't want your Amarr scout sitting in a pack of heavies trying to be a radar dish. You want them out placing links in fun places, destoying enemy links, hacking stuff, flanking, ambushing. All the stuff any other scout does. Passive scans are still useful for these tasks. I do agree however, that the Amarr bonus, compared to other scouts, seems poor. Even though I dispute that it is useless, or redundant due to passive scanning logis.



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