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Cass Caul
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
171
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Posted - 2013.10.23 18:06:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Lightning xVx wrote: I will admit while the shotgun is not perfect and does have a tendency to either lag shot or not register. For me (IMO) it has improved slightly Im guessing due to better optimization CCP has done on other parts of the game and again (for me) has increased the hit registry at least to 90% instead before 50%-60%. One thing I have noticed though with the shotgun is you have to WAIT, a few seconds before engaging the shot, I know scouts like too spam shots but pause in between shots sometimes to line it up. It definitely helps a bit.
BTW: Perfect weapon for taking your time with shots, the Breach Shotgun.
Agree 100%. Ran a KR-17 for 4-5 days. Observed substantially better hit detection. Assuming no latency issues, I hit 9/10 shots with the Breach. Switched back to CRG yesterday (after a laggy match). Found pausing between shots to improve accuracy. Missed frequently when firing as fast as possible.
The problem is when it is the initial shot that doesn't do damage. I also can't see how the breach would have a modicum of usefulness when engaging more than a single target. 1.2 seconds to reload each round? lol that's the time it takes a Duvolle AR to run through my 525HP suit |
Lightning Bolt2
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
290
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Posted - 2013.10.23 18:06:00 -
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Amruk Jackal wrote:Lmao I think I've seen that moron before. He literally was crouching and shooting the shotgun from a pretty far distance away like it was an assault rifle.
... what!? |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
643
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Posted - 2013.10.23 18:12:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:Amruk Jackal wrote:Lmao I think I've seen that moron before. He literally was crouching and shooting the shotgun from a pretty far distance away like it was an assault rifle. ... what!?
Currentlly tearing him a new one on his video. He approves all of his comments, so he might not even let mine see the light of day. So, I'm gonna post them here as well.
First, he put words in my mouth, saying that I thought the shotgun was fine. All I said was "Your ego is so large, im surprised it isn't as heavy as a shotgun" (Little bit of humor, you should see the three responses he gave me. He was quite eloquent.)
Also, dat aim. http://youtu.be/x5tbba6YAAQ?t=48s http://youtu.be/x5tbba6YAAQ?t=1m20s <---- Look at all the hitmarkers I don't have.
Also, he explicitly states that shotguns don't have range. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
262
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Posted - 2013.10.23 18:15:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:Amruk Jackal wrote:Lmao I think I've seen that moron before. He literally was crouching and shooting the shotgun from a pretty far distance away like it was an assault rifle. ... what!? What none of you have used the Creodon Squatgun variant... it's a very rare officer salvage
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Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1723
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Posted - 2013.10.23 18:34:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote: (1) The problem is when it is the initial shot that doesn't do damage. (2) I also can't see how the breach would have a modicum of usefulness when engaging more than a single target. 1.2 seconds to reload each round? lol that's the time it takes a Duvolle AR to run through my 525HP suit
(1) Still a problem. Can't tell you why but I find it [missing 1st shot] happens less often with a Breach. (2) I only use it to open and finish. SMG in between. M209's pretty much my primary when running KR-17.
Not saying the Breach is better. I'm saying it hits more reliably so I suspect Lightning is correct. Pausing briefly between blasts improves likelihood of landing a hit. I'd be cool if they fixed it with the "specific shotgun improvements" coming in 1.6. Otherwise, SG Proficiency is a total waste (unless you're running a Breach). |
pseudosnipre
DUST University Ivy League
281
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Posted - 2013.10.23 18:46:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:So, I was running my Dragonfly Scout yesterday with Basic Shield extender, shotgun, scrambler pistol, compact nanohive, 2X basic ferroscale plates. I ran up into a group of 4 enemies, my squad/corpmate watching, I shot a guy twice and did 0 damage. then I shot him 2 more times to kill him, the I shot the third guy three times to kill him. The fourth guy takes action as I get a headshot on him with my last bullet. He only had a sliver of health left, so I hit [R2] to finish the job. Only! that's right, another bug where you have the change-weapon animation, but it didn't actually change to my sidearm. So I died, because not 1 but 2 bugs working in tandem. I then made the comment, " I would be so good at this game if shotguns actually worked every time." He immediately responded, "****, if the shotgun actually worked, I would quit this game."
He was mostly serious He addressed you with the c-word? Or did you forget that fifth *? Appropriate perhaps, but still very rude. =) |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1725
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Posted - 2013.10.23 19:22:00 -
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hydraSlav's wrote:What i meant to emphasize is that this update is targeted at scouts, as it enables stacking penalty on those modules, and scouts will no longer have to do the maths by hand (woohoo, rejoice). Source: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67188
FYI (in case you guys missed it) ...
HydraSlav updated the Dust 514 Fitting Tool just for us! The tool now correctly calculates the affects of stacking Electronics (Dampeners, Range Extenders, Etc). If you guys notice any discrepancies, please inform him or Haerr. |
J0LLY R0G3R
Unkn0wn Killers
153
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Posted - 2013.10.23 19:37:00 -
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Lightning Bolt2 wrote:Amruk Jackal wrote:Lmao I think I've seen that moron before. He literally was crouching and shooting the shotgun from a pretty far distance away like it was an assault rifle. ... what!?
wait, that was serious? oh i giggled. XD |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
643
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Posted - 2013.10.23 21:13:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Lightning Bolt2 wrote:Amruk Jackal wrote:Lmao I think I've seen that moron before. He literally was crouching and shooting the shotgun from a pretty far distance away like it was an assault rifle. ... what!? Currentlly tearing him a new one on his video. He approves all of his comments, so he might not even let mine see the light of day. So, I'm gonna post them here as well. First, he put words in my mouth, saying that I thought the shotgun was fine. All I said was "Your ego is so large, im surprised it isn't as heavy as a shotgun" (Little bit of humor, you should see the three responses he gave me. He was quite eloquent.) Also, dat aim. http://youtu.be/x5tbba6YAAQ?t=48shttp://youtu.be/x5tbba6YAAQ?t=1m20s <---- Look at all the hitmarkers I don't have. Also, he explicitly states that shotguns don't have range.
This guy is garbage. I looked up his stats. He's rocking a 0.98 K/d and a 1.0 W/L.
He also said that I am stalking him. Apparently commenting on more than one video is "stalking someone".
Here is my favorite part:
This is what I said.
Also, this video had nothing to do with my comment on your ego, and where on earth did I say the shotgun was fine? The only thing I said was that "Your ego is so large, I'm surprised it isn't as heavy as a shotgun." Also, dat aim. (Start your "The main problem with Dust514 Shotguns" and go to these times. Dang comment won't let me link web adresses. t=50s t=1m22s Also, you contradict this video in your previous one. Listen to yourself. t=3m40s Result? 5\10. Seen++ me after class.
His response:
I didn't contradict myself about anything. Most people don't use shotguns for the reason i say the shotgun is not balanced enough and not powerful enough. This proves you are wrong. Again i win more than you. In++ win at life and you don't. You hate me cause you want to be me. Remember you are on my channel, its not the other way around. You have a problem with your own ego, that is why you are stalking me.Nothing you said in your comments have made you look better and you haven't changed anything.
Do you see why I get humor from this?
Comment #2
Why are you trying to use a shotgun at 10m+? It's a Gallente Shotgun, which means it is supposed to be very high damage,n++ and VERY short range. The problem with the shotgun isn't the range, it's the Hit Detection problems. As for the weapon being heavier? Wouldn't affect most shotgun scouts, we generally sprint with our sidearm anyways. I personally think you should stick with your AR until you get some gun game.
His response:
Sprinting with your arms sideways means nothing when i kill shot-gunners more than they kill me. You are embarrassing yourself. You just shut down your own argument and you contradicted yourself here is why... You said the range of the Shotgun is not the problem, then you said the Hit detection is the problem whichn++ is a contraction, because the Hit Detection problem causes the gun to lack range. I made previous videos talking about the hit detection issues and the Shotgun is the problem.
It lacks range because its a fckuing shotgun bro. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1726
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Posted - 2013.10.23 21:25:00 -
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Don't know why, but this scene came to mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EP4Ql7o3GGA
Whatever you do, Ghost, please don't tell him we're all watching his videos. But do please continue taunting him :-)
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
643
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Posted - 2013.10.23 21:37:00 -
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He has no idea about this thread
Maybe our profile dampening skill is keeping this under the radar lawlz |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
643
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Posted - 2013.10.23 21:48:00 -
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He blocked me :P |
pseudosnipre
DUST University Ivy League
283
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Posted - 2013.10.23 21:57:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:He blocked me :P YouTube ratings and aim assist are both obviously disabled.
Another strong example of why you shouldn't comment while playing, lest your own playback make you look foolish.
and what is a d-u-v assault rifle? |
LeGoose
SAM-MIK
45
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Posted - 2013.10.24 00:07:00 -
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Shotty can I tell him we are watching his videos? Also here is "proof" he has experience with a shotgun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nirbr84p2F8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
OMG I can't stop laughing he stops moving and then aims down the sights. Bahahahaha |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
646
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Posted - 2013.10.24 00:09:00 -
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Such experience. We can all learn from him. |
LeGoose
SAM-MIK
45
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Posted - 2013.10.24 00:27:00 -
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Oh and Soldner VonKuechle wanted me to share his comment on King's Thunderbolt's video since it appears to have been deleted. Soldner wrote "Have you EVER picked up a breach shotgun? the effective range of regular issue shotguns is roughly 8-15 meters. Without advancing, shooting that enemy at 25-30 meters away, as you did, allows the shot to fully spread and dissipate. Using a breach shotgun tacks on another 10 meters or so and a huge damage bonus, at the cost of a small clip. Your shots then wouldve hit much harder, and possibly even killed him. Please comment about weapons when you understand them more. :) " |
Amruk Jackal
R 0 N 1 N
25
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Posted - 2013.10.24 00:42:00 -
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Got my first hate mail today Actually thanked him for giving me my first hate mail ever too lol. Also, BUMP ME UP! I AM TIER 3 NOW THE KILLBOARD NOW! MUAHAHAH! |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1730
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Posted - 2013.10.24 01:33:00 -
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Honestly don't know how we should proceed here. I love that he's angry, but it'd be a shame if we embarrassed him.
My vote's for keeping this going as long as possible. Maybe we can taunt him into making moar Shotgun videos :-)
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
649
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Posted - 2013.10.24 01:39:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:Oh and Soldner VonKuechle wanted me to share his comment on King's Thunderbolt's video since it appears to have been deleted. Soldner wrote "Have you EVER picked up a breach shotgun? the effective range of regular issue shotguns is roughly 8-15 meters. Without advancing, shooting that enemy at 25-30 meters away, as you did, allows the shot to fully spread and dissipate. Using a breach shotgun tacks on another 10 meters or so and a huge damage bonus, at the cost of a small clip. Your shots then wouldve hit much harder, and possibly even killed him. Please comment about weapons when you understand them more. :) "
Yeah, he deletes all comments he doesn't like. He took out most of mine too, right after he banned me from commenting :P |
LeGoose
SAM-MIK
48
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Posted - 2013.10.24 01:44:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Honestly don't know how we should proceed here. I love that he's angry, but it'd be a shame if we embarrassed him. My vote's for keeping this going as long as possible. Maybe we can taunt him into making moar Shotgun videos :-) I agree let's keep this going as long as we can. It's just too funny. Also I may post one of Moody's videos or someone in the comments of his video and say " this is how you shotgun." I also think we should keep an eye out for him in game and "teach" him how yto properly use a shotgun. |
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LeGoose
SAM-MIK
49
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Posted - 2013.10.24 01:47:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:LeGoose wrote:Oh and Soldner VonKuechle wanted me to share his comment on King's Thunderbolt's video since it appears to have been deleted. Soldner wrote "Have you EVER picked up a breach shotgun? the effective range of regular issue shotguns is roughly 8-15 meters. Without advancing, shooting that enemy at 25-30 meters away, as you did, allows the shot to fully spread and dissipate. Using a breach shotgun tacks on another 10 meters or so and a huge damage bonus, at the cost of a small clip. Your shots then wouldve hit much harder, and possibly even killed him. Please comment about weapons when you understand them more. :) " Yeah, he deletes all comments he doesn't like. He took out most of mine too, right after he banned me from commenting :P I think he also will delete all of those which clearly show him he is wrong. He deleted one of my posts on the first video I had posted to this thread. I'm hoping he doesn't ban me so I can keep commenting. |
LeGoose
SAM-MIK
49
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Posted - 2013.10.24 02:20:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v0ugAKqjd4&feature=youtube_gdata_player Here is another one. This one is titled "More proof DUST 514 shotguns are overrated." Does this mean war? Edit: I just noticed he renamed the last video I posted "proof I can use a shotgun better than my haters." This definitely means war! |
Gh0st C0de
Spirit Collective
80
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Posted - 2013.10.24 02:27:00 -
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How goes it on the New Eden front, fellow scouts? I haven't been on for a week or so, I had to set time aside for a family wedding and a conference. Is there anything of note to report for us, any new fixes or pertinent whispers about 1.6? |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1731
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Posted - 2013.10.24 02:28:00 -
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Gh0st C0de wrote:How goes it on the New Eden front, fellow scouts? I haven't been on for a week or so, I had to set time aside for a family wedding and a conference. Is there anything of note to report for us, any new fixes or pertinent whispers about 1.6? o7 Nothing new to report at this time. |
LeGoose
SAM-MIK
50
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Posted - 2013.10.24 02:59:00 -
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Well it appears I too have been banned from posting on his videos. Every time I try it says I have reached my comment limit, but I can post comments on other videos. I was going to post "please rename this "more proof I have no clue what I am doing with a shotgun" on his most recent video. But oh well someone else will have to take my place. |
Lightning Bolt2
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
290
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Posted - 2013.10.24 03:07:00 -
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the lolz from the videos love seeing him try to SG at AR range! |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
649
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Posted - 2013.10.24 03:24:00 -
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Unrelated but here is something funny!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM |
Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
649
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Posted - 2013.10.24 03:25:00 -
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LeGoose wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v0ugAKqjd4&feature=youtube_gdata_player Here is another one. This one is titled "More proof DUST 514 shotguns are overrated." Does this mean war? Edit: I just noticed he renamed the last video I posted "proof I can use a shotgun better than my haters." This definitely means war!
Shall we go hunting LeGoose?
I'll be your Maverick! |
pseudosnipre
DUST University Ivy League
284
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Posted - 2013.10.24 03:30:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:LeGoose wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v0ugAKqjd4&feature=youtube_gdata_player Here is another one. This one is titled "More proof DUST 514 shotguns are overrated." Does this mean war? Edit: I just noticed he renamed the last video I posted "proof I can use a shotgun better than my haters." This definitely means war! Shall we go hunting LeGoose? I'll be your Huckleberry! Fixed it for you. |
DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles
178
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Posted - 2013.10.24 03:35:00 -
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LeGoose, he disabled voting on his videos, and he has to approve my message calling him a "total @sshat of epic proportions that doesn't understand basic game mechanics." I think my rant went rather long, so I'll let you read the rest if he actually approves it...
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