The problem isn't people's attitude in game, it's ccp neglecting (or not being able) to properly seperate vets (or just high skill players) and new players / bad players.

I just pulled a Roden Galmando Blueprint! Guess who's speccing into galmando now Dual PLCs here I come

As far as Infected's post goes, he ends with "This thread just drips tears. They are delicious. Keep it up." Whatever he may have been right about with regards to using Adv gear etc. he completely negated it with the last line. PR is tough, and it doesn't take much to sour people's views about your corp with comments like that. Particularly when directed towards someone obviously new and frustrated.

The problem I have with this argument (and some of the above that I didn't quote) is that Dust is a struggling game. Newbies have a hard time getting into it, and the number one indisputable reason for that is veteran advantage. Pushing that advantage harder by protostomping players who can't keep up because "Well CCP should have fixed it by now" doesn't change the fact that it's a douchey thing to do and is unhealthy for the game in the long run. The way Dust is set up, it's really hard to balance the new player experience, so the very least we can do as vets is not run proto blobs in pubs.

Trolly Story time!

Lately more of old corpies have been playing Dust again, so we have a lot less trouble getting a full squad going. As per usual we run anything from lolfits to random bouts of (somewhat) coherent squad base fits.

Sadly there is a pervasive mindset spreading amongst the denizens of the public contracts. Public contracts as you are all well aware are in fact public, open to all and everyone. But that growing group of malcontents not only disagrees with the ability to play with your friends but also to the ability to choose what gear you are allowed to bring.

In fact they are actively working to rob us of the freedom of playing together with our friends, with a clear aim at turning us against one and other. So I ask you what kind of person would advocate for friends to turn on each other?

The second part is that those of that pervasive mindset seeks to take the freedom of choice from us. They would have it so that Public Contracts are segregated, splitting our community into barred subsections who are not allowed to play with each other. So I ask you what kind of person would advocate for the creation of ghettos?

Unfortunately that pervasive mindset is likely to fester and grow in such barred communities, in fact legitimising the childish QQ cries of " YOU CAN'T DO THAT! :'( " and " IT'S NOT FAIR! :'( ".

It does seem very odd that in a game with clear rules and winning conditions there are those who instead of cherishing the opportunity to improve and grow, would seek to bar better players from playing with them. So I ask you what kind of person would only play a game if anyone who is better than them at the game is disallowed from participating?

The amount of qq against using what you have available to you as well as teamwork and tactics in this game is nothing short of staggering.

Trolly Story time!

Lately more of old corpies have been playing Dust again, so we have a lot less trouble getting a full squad going. As per usual we run anything from lolfits to random bouts of (somewhat) coherent squad base fits.

Sadly there is a pervasive mindset spreading amongst the denizens of the public contracts. Public contracts as you are all well aware are in fact public, open to all and everyone. But that growing group of malcontents not only disagrees with the ability to play with your friends but also to the ability to choose what gear you are allowed to bring.

In fact they are actively working to rob us of the freedom of playing together with our friends, with a clear aim at turning us against one and other. So I ask you what kind of person would advocate for friends to turn on each other?

The second part is that those of that pervasive mindset seeks to take the freedom of choice from us. They would have it so that Public Contracts are segregated, splitting our community into barred subsections who are not allowed to play with each other. So I ask you what kind of person would advocate for the creation of ghettos?

Unfortunately that pervasive mindset is likely to fester and grow in such barred communities, in fact legitimising the childish QQ cries of " YOU CAN'T DO THAT! :'( " and " IT'S NOT FAIR! :'( ".

It does seem very odd that in a game with clear rules and winning conditions there are those who instead of cherishing the opportunity to improve and grow, would seek to bar better players from playing with them. So I ask you what kind of person would only play a game if anyone who is better than them at the game is disallowed from participating?

The amount of qq against using what you have available to you as well as teamwork and tactics in this game is nothing short of staggering.

So what you are saying is you want to be able to stomp noobs and casual players at all times in every match. You don't want your open for anything match and a place for balanced matches. FW and PC are already there for the corps and proto stompers but its not enough for them so they need pubs too. So keep your pub and make 3rd private game type like FW and PC for low meta matches. Then you still got your 3 game modes and we can have ours. Yes it is segregated it always has been with PC and FW. I want matches that are tactics and skill that wins not who has the most proto + skills + skill + tactics. It is not like we are going into FW or PC and asking everyone use std because we expect proto and squads there.

Right !! Screw all these noobscrubs for not bringing their best gear, best buddies, and best A-Game all the time !! What are they thinking ?!! This is a competitive game !! What a bunch of pathetic scrubs !! And then they want me to stop protostomping ?!! I HAVE EARNED MY PROTOGEAR !! I too got protostomped day one of open beta and had to work my way to the top just as everyone else had to !!

On a more serious note, playing FW yesterday was quite a refreshing experience. Many people kept coming, kept fighting until the end, and matches were pretty close many times.

Why is FW not available before nighttime in Europe?

I have difficulty describing my envy in mere words.

Sinboto vs Ecstasy cravings 1v1: adv vs pro.

Sinboto wins.

Then saved from being double teamed by the timer. XD

If it makes you feel any better, I played it a bit earlier today and I found it to be atrociously difficult. PLCs are unwieldy at best and without the speed and versatility of running it on a scout with a sidearm backup, it really struggles. You're slow, don't do much damage, and are very vulnerable after firing. I would also probably need to fit 2 CPU upgrades in the low slots if I wanted to use ADV cannons . It's definitely a niche, firing-from-rooftops-with-a-nanohive kind of thing.

My attempts at double plasma rifle shenanigans were pretty substandard too. I'm not cut out to be a fatty.

I found my Commando (Minmatar) tended to work best from rooftops.

Why would we care about positive PR?
We feed on tears.

Idea: EWAR Untangled - Scouts as Scouts & Logis as Support

* Remove Scan Range, Scan Precision bonuses from CA and AM Scouts.
* Buff Scan Precision and/or Range of all Logis.
* Remove and replace bonus to Active Scans from GA Logi.
* Racially rebrand Active Scanners (AM Scanners squad-wide, CA Scanners team-wide).
* AM Scout receives Precision and/or Duration bonus to AM Scanners.
* CA Scout receives Cooldown and/or Range bonus to CA Scanners.
* Tune Passive and Active Scans where needed to adjust for any imbalance.

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Thoughts?

And yet...
Sometimes tear monsters are trying to help the new folk out.

Adipem Nothi Minmando without a MD!?

I tried it out (Prof III or IV). Seemed to be good at killing Scouts and not much else.

We can't afford to make big, sweeping changes that take many months to fine tune at this stage in the game's life. Unless there is a major problem to address and a straightforward end goal - as was the case with sidearm rebalancing - there's no need to make such humongous changes to game balance as this. I see no reason to throw everything up in the air and mess with roles that have existed for years when most suits are just a few integer tweaks away from being balanced.

One of five people in the entire alliance that aren't massive tools...

Incoming massive post about gungame headed to GD.

Anyone interested in learning how to fire,

strafe,

and be aware of your surroundings please look it up.