If I was CCP I wouldnt respond to this garbage either. threats and tears=low priority. Try sounding like something besides a spoiled child, might work out better for you.

Ok, original poster, lift up your hand, palm directed toward your face mind you, and repeatedly with great velocity force your hand to come in contact with the flesh on your face, because you sir, just suck with it. Start trying different weapons until you find one that fits or get used to the way the weapon currently works. It isn't broken if I can go 18-0 (with a good squad) with only one point in MD operation while using the base meta level 1 Mass Driver.

^This!

Ok, original poster, lift up your hand, palm directed toward your face mind you, and repeatedly with great velocity force your hand to come in contact with the flesh on your face, because you sir, just suck with it. Start trying different weapons until you find one that fits or get used to the way the weapon currently works. It isn't broken if I can go 18-0 (with a good squad) with only one point in MD operation while using the base meta level 1 Mass Driver.

guarantadamntee ya.. id go 20-30 kills a game with an AR.. dont want to.. Theres much better games for that and im much better than you at said games..

haters gonna hate .. and even if im wrong im right.. for simple fact that CCP refuses to respond period.. bit shady dont you think?

Im not even to the Proto level and I can 1 shot people with my EX0-5. I understand why you want the weapon to have more oomph, but skill shots with this gun are still powerful. Unlike the previous build this is not a newb tube, it requires a lot of skill and practice to use.

In the previous build people would run when they saw the rounds exploding in front of them. Now most just think of a MD user as an easy kill. The way explosions are currently working is also a problem with the current build, they are too easy to dodge.

I'll add my two cents.

I'm a mediocre player. I can lead in a match where none of the really good (top 15-20% or so) players show up. I thought the old Mass Driver was slightly OP. Sometimes, rarely, the old MD made me feel godly, which was awesome. (I suspect that it was those rare long range direct damage headshots that would one-shot kill somebody that lead to the cries that, "MD are OP!")

All it needed to be balanced was maybe a tiny nerf to damage, particularly direct damage. But, CCP achieved this slight nerf by buffing shields. Once CCP buffed shields, nerfed nanohives, and added side sprinting, they didn't need to do anything at all to the MD directly to balance it. They could bring back the old MD exactly as it was, and the other changes to the game effectively nerfed the old MD into a more balanced state.

If they test the old MD stats in the current build environment (weaker nanohives, stronger shields, side sprinting) and still feel it needs a nerf, do something modest. Cut the old MD's direct damage by 2 or 3 %, and cut its old splash area by 5 or 10%, but not 50%. That's not even remotely balanced.

I'm using an alt with a tac AR most of the time now. I encourage other MD fans to do the same. Our (particularly the OP's) complaints are less likely to really convince CCP that something is wrong with the MD, compared to the stats they gather, and now show us at the end of the matches. When they see that tac ARs are now doing 100x the damage MDs are doing, they'll hopefully restore the MD to some of its former usefulness.

I'll add my two cents.

I'm a mediocre player. I can lead in a match where none of the really good (top 15-20% or so) players show up. I thought the old Mass Driver was slightly OP. Sometimes, rarely, the old MD made me feel godly, which was awesome. (I suspect that it was those rare long range direct damage headshots that would one-shot kill somebody that lead to the cries that, "MD are OP!")

All it needed to be balanced was maybe a tiny nerf to damage, particularly direct damage. But, CCP achieved this slight nerf by buffing shields. Once CCP buffed shields, nerfed nanohives, and added side sprinting, they didn't need to do anything at all to the MD directly to balance it. They could bring back the old MD exactly as it was, and the other changes to the game effectively nerfed the old MD into a more balanced state.

If they test the old MD stats in the current build environment (weaker nanohives, stronger shields, side sprinting) and still feel it needs a nerf, do something modest. Cut the old MD's direct damage by 2 or 3 %, and cut its old splash area by 5 or 10%, but not 50%. That's not even remotely balanced.

I'm using an alt with a tac AR most of the time now. I encourage other MD fans to do the same. Our (particularly the OP's) complaints are less likely to really convince CCP that something is wrong with the MD, compared to the stats they gather, and now show us at the end of the matches. When they see that tac ARs are now doing 100x the damage MDs are doing, they'll hopefully restore the MD to some of its former usefulness.

my thoughts now on the whole issue is that there is only a need for the MD line of normal [standard, EXO, FREEDOM] to only reach a bit over 5m blast when totally skilled into, and since damage wasn't too horrible for such a splash in the wold build, i rather enjoyed it.

now, i know i ticked off heavies when i would somehow direct hit a leg, or arm and nearly wipe them in one hit. only the breach should have that kind of direct hit power. now with what happened to it all, giving people so much health, and the MD not even touched so far, i highly doubt we are going to see a change to them soon. i would rather the kill the damage on the Tacticals first in all honesty

Hi guys,

We have been looking in to the Mass Driver and we have identified two technical issues that are causing problems for it. Firstly we found that the way we check for splash damage is prone to GÇ£missingGÇ¥ partially occluded targets. We have now improved the system to solve this problem (literally yesterday). We will be testing it internally to make sure it causes no new issues and to see if it requires any rebalance on the weapon.

We have also found issues with the Mass Driver projectile and client/server de-sync. In poor network conditions the projectile can GÇ£miss the markGÇ¥ making the weapon feel unreliable. We are looking in to this issue as well.

We are considering increasing the splash radius but we are hesitant to make significant changes to the weapons balance whilst we are still encountering technical issues with its performance. WeGÇÖll keep you informed on how the new splash fix works out.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

Once the desynch issues are fixed, could you please just revert the MD back to how it was in Chromosome? There was absolutely nothing wrong with the weapon. It was balanced enough for players good with it to stand out and had a huge learning curve for anyone who would think it was an "I win button."

Hi guys,

We have been looking in to the Mass Driver and we have identified two technical issues that are causing problems for it. Firstly we found that the way we check for splash damage is prone to GÇ£missingGÇ¥ partially occluded targets. We have now improved the system to solve this problem (literally yesterday). We will be testing it internally to make sure it causes no new issues and to see if it requires any rebalance on the weapon.

We have also found issues with the Mass Driver projectile and client/server de-sync. In poor network conditions the projectile can GÇ£miss the markGÇ¥ making the weapon feel unreliable. We are looking in to this issue as well.

We are considering increasing the splash radius but we are hesitant to make significant changes to the weapons balance whilst we are still encountering technical issues with its performance. WeGÇÖll keep you informed on how the new splash fix works out.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

Prototype mass drivers

Oh yes quite a monster with a splash radius of 4 meters and 100 splash damage on the prototype and that's the high damage low radius one or you mean a monster with 78 splash damage with 5 meter radius, cause no other weapon can deal so much damage right. On top of that you have to compensate for travel time of the projectile. Also They are very week against shields.

Prototype AR

Assault rifle prototype 78 direct damage and 700+ bullets per minute at 60+ meters for a total of 910 damage per second without including skills, small travel time on the projectile and almost no shield damage penalty is no monster of course. I hope you understand my sarcasm.

TL;DR

Mass Drivers where fine in chromosome.

Prototype mass drivers

Oh yes quite a monster with a splash radius of 4 meters and 100 splash damage on the prototype and that's the high damage low radius one or you mean a monster with 78 splash damage with 5 meter radius, cause no other weapon can deal so much damage right. On top of that you have to compensate for travel time of the projectile. Also They are very week against shields.

Edit: They also have maximum of 8 rounds in the chamber for the high radius low damage variety vs the assault rifle that gets dozens of rounds.

Prototype AR

Assault rifle prototype 78 direct damage and 700+ bullets per minute at 60+ meters for a total of 910 damage per second without including skills, small travel time on the projectile and almost no shield damage penalty is no monster of course. I hope you understand my sarcasm.

TL;DR

Mass Drivers where fine in chromosome.

Hi guys,

We have been looking in to the Mass Driver and we have identified two technical issues that are causing problems for it. Firstly we found that the way we check for splash damage is prone to GÇ£missingGÇ¥ partially occluded targets. We have now improved the system to solve this problem (literally yesterday). We will be testing it internally to make sure it causes no new issues and to see if it requires any rebalance on the weapon.

We have also found issues with the Mass Driver projectile and client/server de-sync. In poor network conditions the projectile can GÇ£miss the markGÇ¥ making the weapon feel unreliable. We are looking in to this issue as well.

We are considering increasing the splash radius but we are hesitant to make significant changes to the weapons balance whilst we are still encountering technical issues with its performance. WeGÇÖll keep you informed on how the new splash fix works out.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

Hi guys,

We have been looking in to the Mass Driver and we have identified two technical issues that are causing problems for it. Firstly we found that the way we check for splash damage is prone to GÇ£missingGÇ¥ partially occluded targets. We have now improved the system to solve this problem (literally yesterday). We will be testing it internally to make sure it causes no new issues and to see if it requires any rebalance on the weapon.

We have also found issues with the Mass Driver projectile and client/server de-sync. In poor network conditions the projectile can GÇ£miss the markGÇ¥ making the weapon feel unreliable. We are looking in to this issue as well.

We are considering increasing the splash radius but we are hesitant to make significant changes to the weapons balance whilst we are still encountering technical issues with its performance. WeGÇÖll keep you informed on how the new splash fix works out.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman

It's good to know that the MD is actually bugged and doesen't suck (only) because of the nerf.

I hope it will be fixed soon so that we can actually see if it good as it is now or needs a buff.