In the end our problem is Splash more than Damage. Even if our rounds are less effective to shields, the AoE is what makes this weapon suppressive.

Who would pick a weapon that requires to land a direct hit for damage, yet still requires trajectory and speed judgement for each shot? It makes the weapon redundant, even as a suppressive tool.

I have faith CCP are listening and ready to fix this, since there is so much negative feedback on them. But in the meantime I need to give consideration to another weapon until then.

So how about now? Link PLEASE!

It's good to know that the MD is actually bugged and doesen't suck (only) because of the nerf.

I hope it will be fixed soon so that we can actually see if it good as it is now or needs a buff.

I am glad to see some feedback here.. seriously.. MD's we worked hard for it..

I will once again stress what I said to begin with , and what seems to be the general consensus here, After the bugs are worked out... Lets just revert back to Chromosome stats .. The gun was definitely not OP... well except in MY hands :)

Listen asshat if you wanna see me on the field with ANY weapon of your choice.. name time and place.. ill make u wear a dress and call me daddy..

Next time try making sentences that make sense..

and thats all i do.. explosions..

Level 5 MD
level 5 flaylock
grenades..

Ya I had remotes on last build... Working on them again currently .. but its soo derpressing working on this stuff and resisting the AR route..

I agree about it being a monster. If we get reliable hit detection I don't need any additional splash damage. I'm afraid if you fix these issues and buff it to Chromosome levels there will be LASER level outcries for nerfing.

Whatever you all have done for PC battles recently has helped. The first week of PC was really tough with a MD.

Hit detection is not the issue.... If a grenade launcher splashes with a radius of a firecracker it's not a grenade launcher. Splash radius makes a grenade launcher just that; a grenade launcher. Anyone saying the splash radius is ok is using the weapon wrong and are using it as a direct hit weapon in which case they are better off using assault rifles or any other direct hit weapon. Mass Drivers throw grenades and grenades explode. If you consider the mass driver doing doing just over 1 tenth the damage of a grenade in slash damage we have a weapon that makes no sense when it does not even have that splash radius necessary to emulate at least the effect of a grenade. A direct damage grenade launcher is no grenade launcher.

Those of you who only use the Freedom variant have no clue of what crowd control or area of denial means no matter how much you say you do. 3.3 meters is not a large area, and unless you have a nearly direct hit no damage will be applied to suits that have a minimum movement speed of 3.6 meters (heavy militia suit) and a sprint speed of 5.1m/s minimum (militia heavy ).

I'm not saying, and it's been said many times in this thread, that the Mass Driver is not a useful or handy weapon; I'm saying it's role as an area of denial weapon ( as per description of the weapon ) is not fulfilled.

Keep it up..

Im tired of you nabs talking like its ok.. i got some kills with it ..comments ..great for you.. you had a couple decent games.. nobody cares about that..

this thread is about the facts.. and the numbers speak for themselves.. Blaylock does same or more dmg.. half the time textures just 'eat' up the grenade.. bodies dont set off the explosive.. splash and damage are a joke.. all you need to do is go back and read the rest of the thread to get that its about a 50% nerf that this weapon received all things told.. and on top of that Protos suits buffed .. i really hate to say same things over .. if you didnt read the whole thread, and arent level 5 pro with MD please GTFO.. thanks...l.. Let them fix it..

I basicaly still dont get it. CCP already make DUST like Tactical AR edition, mass driver is "nadespawner" every projectile is grenade, why i should try hit enemy with grenades directly to body or better to face?? Grenades are here coz splash-damage not because you need to hit "boyo2daFace". Mass need bigger splash, faster speed of fired projectile and better sights for sure. DMG is fine, but still..CCP..ITS GRENADE LAUCHNER XD

Boyo boyo why explosives are UP like hell in this game.
(in easy way, every explosive projectile in DUST is underpowered by something, "Nadespawners" by splash and speed of projectile, nades are throwed like by hand of 82 years old "grandpa" clone and "Swarmies"..oh boyo vehicles faster that rocket..like c-¦mon CCP make it stop, make DUST game just more than "tactical AR club" PLEASE XP )

while your results may vary, the thing that made the MD fun was that you had to think to use it, I don't have too much trouble hitting cars or even heavy Air, I have issues with people.

I think vehicles are not as important as people.