1. all weapon do less damage because weaponry does not increase damage any more.

2. lets be honest, the all MD was just too good. I used it before and often I was sitting somewhere and aiming at the general direction of an enemy squad trying to take an objective and I was collecting kills left and right due to the huge splash without a big effort and no chance of retaliation. the "nerf" brings it on par of other weapons, now you have to aim better thats all.

Bullshit on the first, the MD is roughly 20% weaker than it was in the last build, excluding Damage mods and weaponry boost.

I'm fine with a nerf, but the nerf was too hard. Assault max spread should be bumped up to 7.0, Standard max should be bumped up to 5.0, and Breach Max to 4.0. The way it is now, you will not be hitting clumped reds with anything other than the Assault which is pitifully weak with the damage nerf, the Standard is pretty much limited to 1-1 combat, and Breach is horrible in every way imaginable.

MD does the same base damage as before only the splash is lower. allsuits just have slightly more HP and weaponry damage bonus is gone but this affects everyone equally.

I'm saying that's BS, Freedom was easily doing over 130 splash without any boosts.

Boundless Assaults was doing well over 70 Splash(over 80 IIRC) without any boosts.

And the damage nerf is to every MD weapon.

cool story bro

and now check current stats ingame =D

And you're trolling. I can't believe Freedom has the same amount of splash and splash damage as BASE MASS DRIVER from the last build. And that's not including the spread boost it would get from Operation. That's ridiculous, it's right up there with the Heavy nerf.

All i know about the mass driver is yesterday i was slaughtering everything that was put in front of me

the guy who killed me the most ......had a mass driver

The problem is that the splash damage made the weapon an area denial weapon. Right now it doesn't work that way.

It doesn't make people choose a new route to rush you from. They just keep coming.

I was doing great yesterday to be honest. But I don't think it will last. Lots of people are reacting to MD rounds the same way they used to. When they realize that it doesn't hurt their shields they are going to rush and like others have said above, make you ineffective.

I understand that you can use a flux, but in CQ the flux will hurt yourself and your teammates even without FF on.

I also understand that you have to adapt, but I think the drawbacks of the MD are now too great to consider using it in planetary conquest.

I'm going to stick with it because perhaps I'll find the sweet spot. Maybe I'll try the KB/M again.

Those saying that the damage didn't get nerfed are incorrect. The Freedom went from 270 to 240 (approximately).

Overall it just seems that they should have tried removing the sharpshooter (range) skill and nerfing the laser a bit then see what happens. How can they get an idea of what to do if they change everything?

Now can we do the right thing and put it back how it WAS??? ffs

This is all I want to know..

The mouse is currently pretty ******, wait till it's fixed or you might have an aneurysm.

From my experience yesterday, people are already basically ignoring my damage. Before the patch it was only Proto suits that could run up on me with impunity, now even militia suits are coming at me.

We'll see what happens. Maybe us MD users will just have to run in pairs.

In the end our problem is Splash more than Damage. Even if our rounds are less effective to shields, the AoE is what makes this weapon suppressive.

Who would pick a weapon that requires to land a direct hit for damage, yet still requires trajectory and speed judgement for each shot? It makes the weapon redundant, even as a suppressive tool.

I have faith CCP are listening and ready to fix this, since there is so much negative feedback on them. But in the meantime I need to give consideration to another weapon until then.

Exactly... tiny pufts of smoke.. Id do better blowin smoke rings out my left nostril at em..

In the end our problem is Splash more than Damage. Even if our rounds are less effective to shields, the AoE is what makes this weapon suppressive.

Who would pick a weapon that requires to land a direct hit for damage, yet still requires trajectory and speed judgement for each shot? It makes the weapon redundant, even as a suppressive tool.

I have faith CCP are listening and ready to fix this, since there is so much negative feedback on them. But in the meantime I need to give consideration to another weapon until then.

MD was my primary weapon last build. 95% of the time it was what I was using. I could use it with my logi or if I wanted to play pure assault. Now the MD is even more of a nitch weapon, it has taken a massive nerf.

Has it ruined the MD? I dont think so, but the MD is now defiantly a situational weapon and while you see a lot of people running with them now I think a LOT will drop away from them. It will take a lot more time to use them proficiently. Damage did not take a nerf, but splash did.

tl:dr

MD did take a good sized nerf, those who have skill with them will still use them to great effect.