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KA24DERT
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Posted - 2013.05.07 07:13:00 -
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Yeah, I have to agree that using the mass driver feels like I'm trying to kill someone with pillows. |
KA24DERT
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Posted - 2013.05.07 15:05:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Vickers S Grunt wrote:All i know about the mass driver is yesterday i was slaughtering everything that was put in front of me
the guy who killed me the most ......had a mass driver The problem is that the splash damage made the weapon an area denial weapon. Right now it doesn't work that way. It doesn't make people choose a new route to rush you from. They just keep coming. I was doing great yesterday to be honest. But I don't think it will last. Lots of people are reacting to MD rounds the same way they used to. When they realize that it doesn't hurt their shields they are going to rush and like others have said above, make you ineffective. I understand that you can use a flux, but in CQ the flux will hurt yourself and your teammates even without FF on. I also understand that you have to adapt, but I think the drawbacks of the MD are now too great to consider using it in planetary conquest. I'm going to stick with it because perhaps I'll find the sweet spot. Maybe I'll try the KB/M again. Those saying that the damage didn't get nerfed are incorrect. The Freedom went from 270 to 240 (approximately). Overall it just seems that they should have tried removing the sharpshooter (range) skill and nerfing the laser a bit then see what happens. How can they get an idea of what to do if they change everything?
The mouse is currently pretty ******, wait till it's fixed or you might have an aneurysm.
From my experience yesterday, people are already basically ignoring my damage. Before the patch it was only Proto suits that could run up on me with impunity, now even militia suits are coming at me.
We'll see what happens. Maybe us MD users will just have to run in pairs. |
KA24DERT
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Posted - 2013.05.11 03:30:00 -
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I don't understand what you all are saying regarding them making the MD a slayer weapon. How can a reduction of all relevant stats make it more effective at killing people?
It's doubtful that there was any rationale behind these changes aside from "Well, as long as we're tweaking values, let's adjust these too." This is just a thoughtless nerf. If it was some sort of holistic balance attempt, then the smoke trail wouldn't be following the old trajectory path. |
KA24DERT
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Posted - 2013.05.11 03:46:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:KA24DERT wrote:I don't understand what you all are saying regarding them making the MD a slayer weapon. How can a reduction of all relevant stats make it more effective at killing people?
It's doubtful that there was any rationale behind these changes aside from "Well, as long as we're tweaking values, let's adjust these too." This is just a thoughtless nerf. If it was some sort of holistic balance attempt, then the smoke trail wouldn't be following the old trajectory path. Because before, the trajectory had more of a falloff which required arcing the weapon upwards and lobbing rounds. The larger blast radius was necessary because aiming required more skill than just point, ADS, collect kill. Even with the awkwardness it brought on utility purposes with the larger blast radius. Also, back in Chromosome, splash damage was calculated on a 2-D plane for all splash damage weapons which made the MD rounds not register damage on a target that had so much of a pixel of incline or elevation. It was a skill based weapon with a high learning curve and very useful for squad tactics like pinning enemies down for heavies and scouts to close in or simply herding an enemy squad from a downed teammate for logistics to raise them. Now, since the grenades fly straighter, it's much easier to land direct hits that you couldn't in Chromosome at the cost of the splash radius and damage (10% damage buff in hot fix helped) which causes the weapon to lose its finesse when used for a support role. Being able to land direct hits makes it much easier to kill with the MD meaning that it has been reverted to a slayer weapon at the cost to what made it special: area denial and support.
I think I get what you're saying.
I just want my old MD back. |
KA24DERT
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Posted - 2013.05.22 03:30:00 -
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Also, am I crazy or did CCP add an obnoxious muzzle flash to the Mass Driver? |
KA24DERT
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Posted - 2013.05.26 23:56:00 -
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I'm seeing way too many people in this thread asking for half measures.
The two bugs that Wolfman outlined do not negate the radius and damage nerfs the weapon has received. Yes I was aware that sometimes a little bump, staircase or box could prevent an enemy from getting splashed, I don't care. Yes, there's a desynch issue with where the projectile lands. I don't care.
When the round does land, and when it does apply damage, it is pathetic.
I tried running the EXO-5 again with a single damage mod and it was terrible. The only reason I can stomach the game right now is that I run a Freedom with 2x damage mods.
Enough with these silly compromises you traitors are asking for, give us back the old Chromosome mass driver. |
KA24DERT
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Posted - 2013.06.14 15:37:00 -
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Maybe it's the power of suggestion, but I think it does look better.
But why the lack of response? And why not just roll those tweaks out right now like they did with the TAR? |
KA24DERT
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Posted - 2013.07.08 22:25:00 -
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Thank you CCP for putting us back in the loop.
That said, this thread is getting a bit long, and has too much "history". I vote we have a GM lock it, and we start new threads for issues like the trajectory change.
Anyone else in favor? |
KA24DERT
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Posted - 2013.07.11 03:08:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:Thank you CCP for putting us back in the loop.
That said, this thread is getting a bit long, and has too much "history". I vote we have a GM lock it, and we start new threads for issues like the trajectory change.
Anyone else in favor?
Please +1 me, this thread is getting too personal.
Mods please close this thread. |
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