DUST Search - HMG Review (as unbiased as possible...I promise :D )

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

MassiveNine wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

I am just saying normally the CPM wouldn't bother with most balance issues unless its broken. From the sounds of it, the HMG is not fun to be shooting ergo thus broken.

At least there seems to be no cries of getting shot by something being totally unfun yet.

Either way uprising just came out and its going to be a while before bearings are set and feeling of the battlefield is tuned to see things as a whole picture.

Right, so you're basically agreeing that the heavy is ****** and that we just have to "wait it out." How fair is it that we have to wait for another build just to be able to do something BESIDES armor tanking? How can you talk about the whole picture when CCP is obviously focusing on a single part of it? It's more than just broken, the class has been completely destroyed.

Fixing crap by the numbers doesn't require a new build and can and should be hot fixable.

However it does require a developer and the most I can do is shove input on balance priority.

The reason why I require hands on by myself and other cpm is to verify the issue instead of being blindly told its broken.


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MassiveNine Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 150	Posted - 2013.05.06 21:41:00 - [1] - Quote Copying and pasting from another thread: It's pretty pathetic what they've done to the heavy this build. I can't imagine what was going through CCP's head when they decided that nerfing the damage on proto to below standard was a good idea. It also seems they haven't done anything about our horrible bullet spread. The description of the heavy is the exact opposite of what they've done to it. How fair is it that I'm now restricted to sitting on an objective worrying because some shotgun scout might get into my optimal range. I shouldn't have to worry about anyone being in my optimal range, I should just be able to pull the trigger and be done with it. The fact that I even have to worry AT ALL about someone being in my optimal range is... well, a joke. Oh no, that person got to close to me, too bad I can't run away. I'd also like to add that I shouldn't have to use a forge gun 24/7 to remain proficient. The fact that the forge gun is the only proficient heavy weapon in the game just reinforces the fact that the suit is becoming nothing more than an under-equipped camp machine. They are now useless in what a heavy is supposed to dominate in, CQC.
MassiveNine Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 153	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:12:00 - [2] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: /me jots this issue down as hands on testing required urgent. +1 I hope CCP looks at the HMG again. They making allot of Heavies change roles to a more viable one. This is suppose to be a game of variety. I felt sorry for the heavies in the game I was in earlier...all of them went negative...ON A CQC MAP. The variety in this game is non-existant. With each patch and update more and more options are being turned useless and it looks like the heavy is on the wayward now. Might as well take them out of the game now, cause we can trust CCP to fix this problem in 6 months maybe. This game really is becoming AR514.
MassiveNine Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 153	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:22:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am just saying normally the CPM wouldn't bother with most balance issues unless its broken. From the sounds of it, the HMG is not fun to be shooting ergo thus broken. At least there seems to be no cries of getting shot by something being totally unfun yet. Either way uprising just came out and its going to be a while before bearings are set and feeling of the battlefield is tuned to see things as a whole picture. Right, so you're basically agreeing that the heavy is ****** and that we just have to "wait it out." How fair is it that we have to wait for another build just to be able to do something BESIDES armor tanking? How can you talk about the whole picture when CCP is obviously focusing on a single part of it? It's more than just broken, the class has been completely destroyed.
MassiveNine Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 154	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:32:00 - [4] - Quote Stuff like this makes you wonder if CCP even tests this stuff for themselves before they go making imaginary balanced numbers. If they actually tested this stuff themselves before release maybe they would release how ******** they actually are.
MassiveNine Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 154	Posted - 2013.05.06 22:40:00 - [5] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: MassiveNine wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am just saying normally the CPM wouldn't bother with most balance issues unless its broken. From the sounds of it, the HMG is not fun to be shooting ergo thus broken. At least there seems to be no cries of getting shot by something being totally unfun yet. Either way uprising just came out and its going to be a while before bearings are set and feeling of the battlefield is tuned to see things as a whole picture. Right, so you're basically agreeing that the heavy is ****** and that we just have to "wait it out." How fair is it that we have to wait for another build just to be able to do something BESIDES armor tanking? How can you talk about the whole picture when CCP is obviously focusing on a single part of it? It's more than just broken, the class has been completely destroyed. Fixing crap by the numbers doesn't require a new build and can and should be hot fixable. However it does require a developer and the most I can do is shove input on balance priority. The reason why I require hands on by myself and other cpm is to verify the issue instead of being blindly told its broken. Here's to hoping you don't get the developer that thought it would be a good idea to nerf the heavy in the first place. What I would like more from CCP than anything else is an explanation. At least tell us why they thought it was a good idea. Thanks for you help thus far, maybe it will ACTUALLY be fixed sooner than later... p.s. i understand you can only do so much, not mad at you but at least venting at you gets the voice heard.
MassiveNine Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 169	Posted - 2013.05.13 18:41:00 - [6] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: SoTa of PoP wrote: Doom mode is mostly un-usuable. CCP needs to buff turning speed asap. Yea i don't get its purpose...is it for aesthetics? i would just rather have increased zoom over some novelty thing from another game. Increasing turn speed would be nice since...well...we're using a CQQ weapon after all The irony of using a CQC weapon and not being able to track target in my effective range... I personally like the doom mode, if I have enough time to get into it before dying. I enjoyed it much more in the last build, the transition to ADS now is very clunky and pretty much makes it impossible to hit anything or even aim at anything for a full second, and by that time my shields are already gone. It pretty much completely disorients you while in transition.
MassiveNine The Dark Flock 179	Posted - 2013.06.06 23:53:00 - [7] - Quote I'm fairly content with the heavy now, the only problem remaining is the damn barrel flash. Once I spool up I can't see crap.