Hello everyone.

To keep you informed on this subject, KB&M support is coming. We currently plan to release it in the next major beta patch (build).

It will be interesting to see if CCP will nerf KB/M capabilities. I don't care if they allow KB/M. If they didn't there are still plenty of ways users can install it to their PS3 without the need for CCP support. But if CCP are policing the balance between KB/M and Controller users then it shouldn't make a difference to either party.

However, if KB/M users are given the same capabilities as their PC FPSs, then I would have to agree with Major Assitch. There is no way an average PS3 gamer, or for that matter a competitive one, will stick around for long just to have their asses handed to them from guys with lightning look speed and precision and hotkey shortcuts. And if CCP lose that audience then all their hard work for combining the console and PC community into the Eve universe will have been for nothing.

Geez, this decision for CCP really is pivotal, huh? I wouldn't want to be in their shoes for this.

On another note, I wouldn't mind being able to bring over a piece of hardware to use for Dust: the Xbox 360 controller. I bought an XCM cross adapter specifically for Dust since I just can't get used to R1 as opposed to a trigger or the parallel analogue sticks. But it sounds like the ONLY game this bit of hardware doesn't work for............is Dust!

MORE people will play the game with mouse and keyboard support, then the stupid controller

There is no way an average PS3 gamer, or for that matter a competitive one, will stick around for long just to have their asses handed to them from guys with lightning look speed

If you believe this you're not right in the head.

Edit: Battlefield 3 sold 5 million copies in its first week. only 500,000 of those were on PC. Strange that 4.5 million people chose to play a FPS franchise traditionally on PC with a controller instead.

You do realize your look and turn speed is capped by the drop suit you choose right? And that this means a mouse user won't turn faster than any other person in the same suit, right? And you also realize that there are no hotkeys that can be put in other than what the programmer allows, right?

Every time I turn around it's the same 2 arguments, and the console cowboys don't even realize that their primary complaint is already null and void due to the dropsuit balancing that's already been done.


Keep whipping the dead horse gentlemen, It'll keep you from noticing the free hookers & booze down at the saloon on main street.

You are wrong on your first point. Every KBM user will immediately set their sensitivity to 100, but 100 on a DS3 is EXTREMELY difficult. KBM is easy mode, there is no arguing that point, if it wasn't considerably easier then damn near no one would care if it was added (on either side of the argument).

That must be one of the most stupid argument I have ever heard, that would only be the case if all those people had good pcs as well as a ps3 or a xbox 360, which they don't. And if they did, I can promise you that 99% of them would buy it for pc.

Definitely a tough decision, but given the number of FPS PS3 players, I think it will upset way more people than it will appease if they allow KB/M. Time will tell... I want this game to succeed.

Doesn't it just **** you off when someone uses the right tool for the job. Put down the screwdriver and hammer that screw in like a real man!

There isn't a "right" tool for playing videogames. The accuracy of KBM makes gaming LESS fun for many folks. I mean, by your logic the "right" difficulty setting for a videogame is always the easiest one.

You're also assuming that ALL ps3 players are going to universally hate this. I'm sure there's more than a few that will be glad to be able to use the m & k setup on the game. I'm guessing it will mostly be former pc players who have migrated to ps3 to be able to play with friends. Also people are forgetting the likely possibility that CCP will release dust on PC eventually too. would you rather they got the input balancing out of the way NOW or when they release the pc version?

I hear "this is new Eden, adapt or die" every other forum post.

Apparently people can't take their own advice.

There isn't a "right" tool for playing videogames. The accuracy of KBM makes gaming LESS fun for many folks. I mean, by your logic the "right" difficulty setting for a videogame is always the easiest one.

But that was my WHOLE point of my full post. Everyone is taking that small piece of quote like that was the point I was trying to make.

Go back and read it fully. I think that balancing is required, not banning the KB/M! Instead of making people use unsanctioned hardware, embrace the hardware and make it on par with the ability of every other piece of hardware playing the game.

And don't start saying " adapt or die" or "not our fault the controller is inferior". The game was made on a Playstation.

You do realize your look and turn speed is capped by the drop suit you choose right? And that this means a mouse user won't turn faster than any other person in the same suit, right? And you also realize that there are no hotkeys that can be put in other than what the programmer allows, right?

Every time I turn around it's the same 2 arguments, and the console cowboys don't even realize that their primary complaint is already null and void due to the dropsuit balancing that's already been done.


Keep whipping the dead horse gentlemen, It'll keep you from noticing the free hookers & booze down at the saloon on main street.

I'm actually quoting Chew BOCCA there. I agree with your posting that with balance it should be fine.

Sorry to throw water on your fire here, but I don't think it'll be fine with balance. The accuracy issue remains no matter what happens balance wise.

KB&M is unfair to all users with a Controller - I-¦m sad the game died for me when there ist KB&M Supp....

So, for YOU it's more "fun" to fight against an inferior (less accurate in your words) control scheme, than it is to actually play the game itself with an input scheme that allows you to do what you want more naturally? That's fascinating, but not terribly surprising considering how vastly different people's opinions can be.

I tend to favor games that have sensible interfaces which allow me to focus on the Yomi of the game and trying to out think my opponent. It may surprise you to learn that practiced skill with a DS3 controller will not net you much in life.

I play games on whichever platform I think suits them best, which is generally dictated by the user interface. FPS happens to be one of those game types I generally prefer playing on a PC, but I suppose 20 years of FPS experience using a particular control scheme is bound to make a person biased. That being said, if whatever form the KB/M support takes in this game feels awkward and unnatural due to some console concessions the devs have to make, I won't use it. I won't cry about it either. I will just accept it as a shortcoming of the game, but continue to enjoy a game that I hope lives up to all of the grand visions.

By the way, I actually use my DS3 controller on my PC when I play some games originally designed for consoles because KB/M feels awkward and inefficient for that game type, or just because the developers who ported the game did a terrible job mapping standard PC inputs to the game. Seems only right I should be able to do the reverse as well. :-)