DUST Search - Keyboard/Mouse

Arcushek Dion wrote:

Chew B0CCA wrote:

Ekull Zekariah wrote:

It will be interesting to see if CCP will nerf KB/M capabilities. I don't care if they allow KB/M. If they didn't there are still plenty of ways users can install it to their PS3 without the need for CCP support. But if CCP are policing the balance between KB/M and Controller users then it shouldn't make a difference to either party.

However, if KB/M users are given the same capabilities as their PC FPSs, then I would have to agree with Major Assitch. There is no way an average PS3 gamer, or for that matter a competitive one, will stick around for long just to have their asses handed to them from guys with lightning look speed and precision and hotkey shortcuts. And if CCP lose that audience then all their hard work for combining the console and PC community into the Eve universe will have been for nothing.

Geez, this decision for CCP really is pivotal, huh? I wouldn't want to be in their shoes for this.

On another note, I wouldn't mind being able to bring over a piece of hardware to use for Dust: the Xbox 360 controller. I bought an XCM cross adapter specifically for Dust since I just can't get used to R1 as opposed to a trigger or the parallel analogue sticks. But it sounds like the ONLY game this bit of hardware doesn't work for............is Dust!

Definitely a tough decision, but given the number of FPS PS3 players, I think it will upset way more people than it will appease if they allow KB/M. Time will tell... I want this game to succeed.

You're also assuming that ALL ps3 players are going to universally hate this. I'm sure there's more than a few that will be glad to be able to use the m & k setup on the game. I'm guessing it will mostly be former pc players who have migrated to ps3 to be able to play with friends. Also people are forgetting the likely possibility that CCP will release dust on PC eventually too. would you rather they got the input balancing out of the way NOW or when they release the pc version?


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Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.07.10 05:30:00 - [1] - Quote GSP GoTSoMePoT wrote: well lets not stop ther why not put the xboxs 360 controller on the ps3 so every boddy is happy... I would LOOOOOOOVE that! I own both consoles and each one has something over the other. But for me the Xbox controller is HANDS DOWN the better designed and more comfortable one. Each to their own, but I would pay extra for this. Back OT, either way you look at it the mouse is a much more effective look/movement tool than an analogue stick. If they were to introduce this feature, the mouse would somehow have to be handicapped. That would probably defeat the point of KB/M since the users would like their settings to be the same as when they play other FPSs on PC. I don't think it would be unfair if CCP gave us this feature, but the KB/M audience wouldn't like what they get after balancing tears it up.
Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.07.10 10:37:00 - [2] - Quote Templar Two wrote: Ekull Zekariah wrote: Back OT, either way you look at it the mouse is a much more effective look/movement tool than an analogue stick. If they were to introduce this feature, the mouse would somehow have to be handicapped. That would probably defeat the point of KB/M since the users would like their settings to be the same as when they play other FPSs on PC. I said the same thing in the previous pages. Thought you said it far more synthetically which means you said it better. Apologies for the double up, Templar. After twenty-something pages it gets to be a blur and I am sometimes guilty of skimming at that point. I hope I'm not doubling up again with my next point: What is the point of having an ENTIRE keyboard at your disposal for a game designed on a controller? Answer: Hotkeys. And that gives a huge advantage to KB/M users over a controller user with shortcuts up to wahzoo! So we could go back to the previous point and say there won't be any Hotkeys options for balancing reasons, so then I ask again: What is the point of having an ENTIRE keyboard at your disposal?
Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.07.12 21:27:00 - [3] - Quote It will be interesting to see if CCP will nerf KB/M capabilities. I don't care if they allow KB/M. If they didn't there are still plenty of ways users can install it to their PS3 without the need for CCP support. But if CCP are policing the balance between KB/M and Controller users then it shouldn't make a difference to either party. However, if KB/M users are given the same capabilities as their PC FPSs, then I would have to agree with Major Assitch. There is no way an average PS3 gamer, or for that matter a competitive one, will stick around for long just to have their asses handed to them from guys with lightning look speed and precision and hotkey shortcuts. And if CCP lose that audience then all their hard work for combining the console and PC community into the Eve universe will have been for nothing. Geez, this decision for CCP really is pivotal, huh? I wouldn't want to be in their shoes for this. On another note, I wouldn't mind being able to bring over a piece of hardware to use for Dust: the Xbox 360 controller. I bought an XCM cross adapter specifically for Dust since I just can't get used to R1 as opposed to a trigger or the parallel analogue sticks. But it sounds like the ONLY game this bit of hardware doesn't work for............is Dust!
Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.07.13 05:03:00 - [4] - Quote Arcushek Dion wrote: Chew B0CCA wrote: Ekull Zekariah wrote: It will be interesting to see if CCP will nerf KB/M capabilities. I don't care if they allow KB/M. If they didn't there are still plenty of ways users can install it to their PS3 without the need for CCP support. But if CCP are policing the balance between KB/M and Controller users then it shouldn't make a difference to either party. However, if KB/M users are given the same capabilities as their PC FPSs, then I would have to agree with Major Assitch. There is no way an average PS3 gamer, or for that matter a competitive one, will stick around for long just to have their asses handed to them from guys with lightning look speed and precision and hotkey shortcuts. And if CCP lose that audience then all their hard work for combining the console and PC community into the Eve universe will have been for nothing. Geez, this decision for CCP really is pivotal, huh? I wouldn't want to be in their shoes for this. On another note, I wouldn't mind being able to bring over a piece of hardware to use for Dust: the Xbox 360 controller. I bought an XCM cross adapter specifically for Dust since I just can't get used to R1 as opposed to a trigger or the parallel analogue sticks. But it sounds like the ONLY game this bit of hardware doesn't work for............is Dust! Definitely a tough decision, but given the number of FPS PS3 players, I think it will upset way more people than it will appease if they allow KB/M. Time will tell... I want this game to succeed. You're also assuming that ALL ps3 players are going to universally hate this. I'm sure there's more than a few that will be glad to be able to use the m & k setup on the game. I'm guessing it will mostly be former pc players who have migrated to ps3 to be able to play with friends. Also people are forgetting the likely possibility that CCP will release dust on PC eventually too. would you rather they got the input balancing out of the way NOW or when they release the pc version? But that was my WHOLE point of my full post. Everyone is taking that small piece of quote like that was the point I was trying to make. Go back and read it fully. I think that balancing is required, not banning the KB/M! Instead of making people use unsanctioned hardware, embrace the hardware and make it on par with the ability of every other piece of hardware playing the game. And don't start saying " adapt or die" or "not our fault the controller is inferior". The game was made on a Playstation.
Ekull Zekariah 117	Posted - 2012.07.13 07:26:00 - [5] - Quote Chew B0CCA wrote: Sorry to throw water on your fire here, but I don't think it'll be fine with balance. The accuracy issue remains no matter what happens balance wise. I guess we will see with the next update. Fortunately CCP can still call "Beta" and make a fix or scrap it if there is too much outcry.