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Norbar Recturus
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.07.24 13:26:00 -
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Currently the controls are clunky for issuing squad leader commands.
I support the KB/M initiative on this basis. If you use a DS3 controller and don't want to make the transition that's fine with me... but understand this point: I grew up playing games on the PC. I learned to read on a PC. I learned to to get in trouble on a PC. I learned math on a PC. The Mouse and Keyboard are as much an extension of myself as are my hands.
I don't care if you think it's a PC elitist thing. I don't care if you think I'm selling out. I don't care what your opinion is. If a Mouse and Keyboard are offered, I'm going to jump at the opportunity to use them because its what feels most natural to me. It isn't because of a "competitive edge," or some kitten like that... it's because I grew up gunning with a mouse.
Whine all you want. IDGAF and neither do the developers. Lock this thread plx. |
Arpentis
28
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Posted - 2012.07.24 15:23:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:@ Lilianna Sentinel, all you do is whine and complain
Is this how all eve players behave???????? One of the big reasons I am even interested in Dust to begin with is because of Mouse and Keyboard support. I would be seriously disappointed if we all had to dumb down to playing with gamepads because a few people can't adapt to a better control scheme.
Well first of it's not a few people, second many of us don't even have the kind of setup that would allow us to use a mouse and keyboard, and third if your on a console how about you use the controller that that console uses instead of imbalancing the game how about you adapt since your not on the PC your're on the PS3 |
Stabber McShank
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2012.07.24 17:15:00 -
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Arpentis wrote:
Well first of it's not a few people, second many of us don't even have the kind of setup that would allow us to use a mouse and keyboard, and third if your on a console how about you use the controller that that console uses instead of imbalancing the game how about you adapt since your not on the PC your're on the PS3
Too bad there are Keyboard + Mouse users in Dust RIGHT NOW. They are also in MAG, BF3, Killzone, and every other FPS on the PS3.
In case you didn't understand the above:
KEYBOARD AND MOUSE ARE ALREADY BEING USED IN EVERY FPS ON THE PS3, NOT SUPPORTING IT JUST MEANS THE POOR OR NON-TECHNICAL PLAYERS DON'T HAVE THE OPTION.
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Kill3rAce
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
9
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:30:00 -
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I've never played a game on PS3 with a keyboard and mouse and honestly don't plan too. It's a freaking console everyone who complains about not being able to use a mouse to aim needs to grow up. If you honestly can't understand that a mouse has a way higher reaction time and accuracy then a controller then your just stupid. There would be an obvious dis-advantage for all PS3 Controller users. CCP please do not cater to this complaining bunch of computer users. I have a gaming PC and love it to death...but CCP said this was a PS3 game and a exclusive...I expect it to use controllers and so for everyone to use them while running, aiming and shooting.
To be honest its the same argument with Counter-Strike/Source...they wanted PS3/XBOX users to play with PC people hahaha...the community laughed it up. No one on XBOX/PS3 would even have a remote chance of a fair game vs PC on CS. Please leave it as Controller only for gameplay...just make the joystick controls tighter its def possibile |
Ayures0
259
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Posted - 2012.07.24 21:39:00 -
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DatFeckinTwat wrote: I read about 10 pages of this argument before I skipped to the end. KB/M support will most probably be for communication with other players and menu navigation. Nobody likes to spent time inputting words via the controller and i'm pretty sure, that, with all the future menu choices a mouse and Hot key system would be appreciated by most console users.
Except that you can already use a keyboard to type in chat. I don't know why CCP would be saying that keyboard and mouse support would be added for that when it's already in. |
Mr514
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.07.24 22:18:00 -
[636] - Quote
DatFeckinTwat wrote: I read about 10 pages of this argument before I skipped to the end. KB/M support will most probably be for communication with other players and menu navigation. Nobody likes to spent time inputting words via the controller and i'm pretty sure, that, with all the future menu choices a mouse and Hot key system would be appreciated by most console users. Remember, this is a console game first and foremost. It is designed for console players to play. Navigating multiple menu's and written communication is a chore via Sixaxis. I personally welcome the choice of keyboard and mouse for these purposes. KB/M gameplay WILL ruin the experience for PS3 users and ultimately result in Dust becoming a costly experiment gone wrong for CCP. If you disagree, feel free to kill me on the battlefield. Not on the Forum. 
Ok, as you dident read everything you missed the dev. post, that it IS confirm that keyboard and mouse support is coming, not only for chatting and marketing stuff.. :D
I also have confim's in a mail from a dev, that its coming, but nothing about when, but in beta, so before its all done.
It whas ment from day one to be support.. nothing more to argue about.. i'm just wating for it before i start playing more. |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2012.07.24 22:23:00 -
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Are the K/M to DS3 'converters' any good? I would imagine that the various optimizations developers implement to make thumbstick FPS controls more manageable would cause problems for the mouse user. |
Stabber McShank
Circle of Huskarl
Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2012.07.25 14:43:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:Are the K/M to DS3 'converters' any good? I would imagine that the various optimizations developers implement to make thumbstick FPS controls more manageable would cause problems for the mouse user.
From my research, some games work better with certain converters, but the one that seems to be the best overall experience is using GIMX with a bluetooth adapter.
Most of the K/M converters register themselves as a USB Joystick device, which can have spotty support at times. GIMX via bluetooth registers itself as a native PS3 controller, which is why it has much better overall performance. |
Genhawkk
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.07.25 16:51:00 -
[639] - Quote
Stabber McShank wrote:Knarf Black wrote:Are the K/M to DS3 'converters' any good? I would imagine that the various optimizations developers implement to make thumbstick FPS controls more manageable would cause problems for the mouse user. From my research, some games work better with certain converters, but the one that seems to be the best overall experience is using GIMX with a bluetooth adapter. Most of the K/M converters register themselves as a USB Joystick device, which can have spotty support at times. GIMX via bluetooth registers itself as a native PS3 controller, which is why it has much better overall performance.
I bought a PS3 and Eagle Eye just for this game and I have to say I was really surprised how good it was....
Its not 100% as smooth / precise as a KB/M in BF3 or other native PC game; but the game thing is close! Its a massive difference and will definately be using it unless native KB/M support is put in.... Just crank the in game sensitivity as high as it goes and set your DPI for what feels right for you and you are golden! Can pull a 360 instantly and be precise as ****....
Was impressed to say the least, no worried if they ever put in KB/M cause I already have an advantage.... LOL
Now I just need to get back to my place (home for summer break) so I can get back to using the dam thing.... never liked controllerrs in an FPS and it shows.... |
Criest Pyrkin
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
16
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Posted - 2012.08.25 17:42:00 -
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I use KB/M and I still die quite often. I never learned properly to use that clitoris on sixaxis to precise point a guy 200m away when he runs.
Without this support I would try to use sharpshooter and if that would ease my day in Dust I would stop playing after a while. So for me CCP allowed me to play against hardcore controller freaks on a decent level.
Hereis why KB/M isnt the best still:
1. Sensitivity to 100% and still need to move mouse a few time to spin 180 degrees. Hence CQC fights arent the best.
2. Having granades on key X isnt really as compfy as on sixaxis. Hence I dont use grenades as much as I used to.
3. Not all keyboard layout settings are what I like, efficiency is lower therefore.
4. dont know how to choose different dropzone points to spawn with a kyaboard and mouse, hence using sixaxis next to my keyboard.
5. I believe there is no mouse acceleration support on PS3 (or just in Dust) so its slower to spin.
6. For forge Gun to shoot down installation I find sixaxis better. If no rush and stress having enemies close to you, you can pinpoint best position to shoot the installation and then just keep on shooting, Whilst with mouse you have to target the installation every time every shot.
7. Strafing with KB/M is more difficult than with sixaxis, hence I dont strafe much anymore.
Although my K/D ratio improved its mainly because I can now focus on assault rifle fights and not just running around hacking stuff, or jump in the turret on one of the tanks (arent really any right now anyway).
So to summarize, long range assault rifle precision is better but everything else is worse. |
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