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Mr514
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:00:00 -
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To make a point here aswell. If you need to turn 180 around to shoot someone that just started to shoot you.. Well, your DEAD as you just turn around and saw what happen.. IF your lucky.. With keyboard and mouse, things like that can be controll so fast that you are able to turn around, and might even kill that target before you die. |
Lilianna Sentinel
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
295
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:02:00 -
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Mr514 wrote:Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Mr514 wrote:
What???!!!... Are you drunk or something? MORE skills to use a keybard and mouse then a controller???!! Wow, what planer "are" you from?
KBM doesn't have any aim assist. It's all you. Well, you made my day today. I must say, you clearly dont know what you are talking about.
Am I wrong? Please explain to me. |
Phantomnom
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
505
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:03:00 -
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Mr514 wrote:To make a point here aswell. If you need to turn 180 around to shoot someone that just started to shoot you.. Well, your DEAD as you just turn around and saw what happen.. IF your lucky.. With keyboard and mouse, things like that can be controll so fast that you are able to turn around, and might even kill that target before you die.
But I can do that with a controller, I just have to turn. KB/M removes everything like that from movement to aiming, it's instantaneous. KB/M may be better statistically for shooters, but it's going to create a void between the controller users and KB/M users. That's inherent imbalance. That kills games. |
Lilianna Sentinel
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
295
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:04:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:Mr514 wrote:To make a point here aswell. If you need to turn 180 around to shoot someone that just started to shoot you.. Well, your DEAD as you just turn around and saw what happen.. IF your lucky.. With keyboard and mouse, things like that can be controll so fast that you are able to turn around, and might even kill that target before you die. But I can do that with a controller, I just have to turn. KB/M removes everything like that from movement to aiming, it's instantaneous. KB/M may be better statistically for shooters, but it's going to create a void between the controller users and KB/M users. That's inherent imbalance. That kills games.
Or it may save it by getting PC players on board.
Hell, you don't even have to be a PC player to have a USB mouse and keyboard. |
Freyar Tarkin
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
95
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:11:00 -
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Look out guys, we've got a badass over hea.
Bottom line is, the PS3 is capable of using the keyboard and mouse. Just because people like the loud one in here isn't used to using them, doesn't mean it shouldn't be implemented. Being able to choose the best input for whatever your playing should have been implemented YEARS ago. |
Mr514
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:17:00 -
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Phantomnom wrote:Mr514 wrote:To make a point here aswell. If you need to turn 180 around to shoot someone that just started to shoot you.. Well, your DEAD as you just turn around and saw what happen.. IF your lucky.. With keyboard and mouse, things like that can be controll so fast that you are able to turn around, and might even kill that target before you die. But I can do that with a controller, I just have to turn. KB/M removes everything like that from movement to aiming, it's instantaneous. KB/M may be better statistically for shooters, but it's going to create a void between the controller users and KB/M users. That's inherent imbalance. That kills games.
bullshitt |
Lilianna Sentinel
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
295
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:17:00 -
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Freyar Tarkin wrote:Look out guys, we've got a badass over hea.
Bottom line is, the PS3 is capable of using the keyboard and mouse. Just because people like the loud one in here isn't used to using them, doesn't mean it shouldn't be implemented. Being able to choose the best input for whatever your playing should have been implemented YEARS ago.
I really think that, if we want to continue focusing on shooters then it is only to the industry's benefit that we start pushing mouse and keyboard.
Then we can start coming up with mice and keyboards that work well on the couch. |
Fatmanpro
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
251
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:22:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Freyar Tarkin wrote:Look out guys, we've got a badass over hea.
Bottom line is, the PS3 is capable of using the keyboard and mouse. Just because people like the loud one in here isn't used to using them, doesn't mean it shouldn't be implemented. Being able to choose the best input for whatever your playing should have been implemented YEARS ago. I really think that, if we want to continue focusing on shooters then it is only to the industry's benefit that we start pushing mouse and keyboard. Then we can start coming up with mice and keyboards that work well on the couch.
Wrong way round |
Mr514
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:23:00 -
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Well, anyhow, i made my point, CCP deside if they are going to lose tons of players, gain more or just jurk around and dont dear to do anything. On the event on iceland they told Keyboard and mouse whas going to be an option. If that isnt the case anymore, i'm selling my PS3. Something i shoud have done ages ago, but kept it as i whas waiting for this game. Pc is and have always been the ultimate gaming machine, and think its a error that they aint making this game for PC, as Eve Online is a PC game, and Dust built on the same concept. |
Fatmanpro
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
251
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:29:00 -
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Mr514 wrote:Phantomnom wrote:Mr514 wrote:To make a point here aswell. If you need to turn 180 around to shoot someone that just started to shoot you.. Well, your DEAD as you just turn around and saw what happen.. IF your lucky.. With keyboard and mouse, things like that can be controll so fast that you are able to turn around, and might even kill that target before you die. But I can do that with a controller, I just have to turn. KB/M removes everything like that from movement to aiming, it's instantaneous. KB/M may be better statistically for shooters, but it's going to create a void between the controller users and KB/M users. That's inherent imbalance. That kills games. bullshitt
Why dont all PS3 FPS games have full KB+M support ??
Oh yea its a terribl idea that will unbalance your game and people wont play it
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Fatmanpro
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
251
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:30:00 -
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Mr514 wrote:Well, anyhow, i made my point, CCP deside if they are going to lose tons of players, gain more or just jurk around and dont dear to do anything. On the event on iceland they told Keyboard and mouse whas going to be an option. If that isnt the case anymore, i'm selling my PS3. Something i shoud have done ages ago, but kept it as i whas waiting for this game. Pc is and have always been the ultimate gaming machine, and think its a error that they aint making this game for PC, as Eve Online is a PC game, and Dust built on the same concept.
Goodbye
You wont be missed |
Lilianna Sentinel
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
295
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:32:00 -
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Fatmanpro wrote:Mr514 wrote:Well, anyhow, i made my point, CCP deside if they are going to lose tons of players, gain more or just jurk around and dont dear to do anything. On the event on iceland they told Keyboard and mouse whas going to be an option. If that isnt the case anymore, i'm selling my PS3. Something i shoud have done ages ago, but kept it as i whas waiting for this game. Pc is and have always been the ultimate gaming machine, and think its a error that they aint making this game for PC, as Eve Online is a PC game, and Dust built on the same concept. Goodbye
You wont be missed
You consistently argue that this change will chase away players.
Yet that's what you're doing.
Do you have some sort of preference for console gamers over PC gamers?
There are many players here that are actually attracted to Dust 514 because of KBM.
Let me ask you this: Are you absolutely certain that the amount of console players who will get indignant over adding KBM will outnumber the players who came to Dust 514 because of KBM support? |
Mr514
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:35:00 -
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Fatmanpro wrote:Mr514 wrote:Phantomnom wrote:Mr514 wrote:To make a point here aswell. If you need to turn 180 around to shoot someone that just started to shoot you.. Well, your DEAD as you just turn around and saw what happen.. IF your lucky.. With keyboard and mouse, things like that can be controll so fast that you are able to turn around, and might even kill that target before you die. But I can do that with a controller, I just have to turn. KB/M removes everything like that from movement to aiming, it's instantaneous. KB/M may be better statistically for shooters, but it's going to create a void between the controller users and KB/M users. That's inherent imbalance. That kills games. bullshitt Why dont all PS3 FPS games have full KB+M support ??Oh yea its a terribl idea that will unbalance your game and people wont play it
Its not making it unbalance. Think again, and then even think more about it! ;-) MORE people will play the game with mouse and keyboard support, then the stupid controller |
Wicked-The-Croatian Sensation
11
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:37:00 -
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So many uncoordinated kids crying that they might need to use a controller. |
Fatmanpro
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
251
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:41:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Fatmanpro wrote:Mr514 wrote:Well, anyhow, i made my point, CCP deside if they are going to lose tons of players, gain more or just jurk around and dont dear to do anything. On the event on iceland they told Keyboard and mouse whas going to be an option. If that isnt the case anymore, i'm selling my PS3. Something i shoud have done ages ago, but kept it as i whas waiting for this game. Pc is and have always been the ultimate gaming machine, and think its a error that they aint making this game for PC, as Eve Online is a PC game, and Dust built on the same concept. Goodbye
You wont be missed You consistently argue that this change will chase away players. Yet that's what you're doing. Do you have some sort of preference for console gamers over PC gamers? There are many players here that are actually attracted to Dust 514 because of KBM. Let me ask you this: Are you absolutely certain that the amount of console players who will get indignant over adding KBM will outnumber the players who came to Dust 514 because of KBM support?
Clearly there are more PC players who play with KB+M on PS3
Than there are PS3 players who play with a controller
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Lilianna Sentinel
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
295
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:41:00 -
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Wicked-The-Croatian Sensation wrote:So many uncoordinated kids crying that they might need to use a controller.
Hey, the control method I'm rooting for doesn't have any aim assist.
It's not as simple as point and click. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:42:00 -
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@ Lilianna Sentinel, all you do is whine and complain
Is this how all eve players behave???????? |
Wicked-The-Croatian Sensation
11
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:44:00 -
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Fatmanpro wrote:Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Fatmanpro wrote:Mr514 wrote:Well, anyhow, i made my point, CCP deside if they are going to lose tons of players, gain more or just jurk around and dont dear to do anything. On the event on iceland they told Keyboard and mouse whas going to be an option. If that isnt the case anymore, i'm selling my PS3. Something i shoud have done ages ago, but kept it as i whas waiting for this game. Pc is and have always been the ultimate gaming machine, and think its a error that they aint making this game for PC, as Eve Online is a PC game, and Dust built on the same concept. Goodbye
You wont be missed You consistently argue that this change will chase away players. Yet that's what you're doing. Do you have some sort of preference for console gamers over PC gamers? There are many players here that are actually attracted to Dust 514 because of KBM. Let me ask you this: Are you absolutely certain that the amount of console players who will get indignant over adding KBM will outnumber the players who came to Dust 514 because of KBM support? Clearly there are more PC players who play with KB+M on PS3
Than there are PS3 players who play with a controller
Link ? |
Lilianna Sentinel
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
295
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:47:00 -
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Fatmanpro wrote: Clearly there are more PC players who play with KB+M on PS3
Than there are PS3 players who play with a controller
Thank you for changing the question.
I didn't ask how many PC players there are on PS3 versus how many PS3 players there are.
This change won't make ALL PS3 gamers angry like you seem to imply.
In fact, I am certain many PS3 gamers will be quite pleased that they can use a mouse and keyboard instead of a clunky old gamepad. |
Lilianna Sentinel
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
295
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:48:00 -
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ReGnUm DEl wrote:@ Lilianna Sentinel, all you do is whine and complain
Is this how all eve players behave????????
One of the big reasons I am even interested in Dust to begin with is because of Mouse and Keyboard support. I would be seriously disappointed if we all had to dumb down to playing with gamepads because a few people can't adapt to a better control scheme. |
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OnsIaught
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:50:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Fatmanpro wrote: Clearly there are more PC players who play with KB+M on PS3
Than there are PS3 players who play with a controller
Thank you for changing the question. I didn't ask how many PC players there are on PS3 versus how many PS3 players there are. This change won't make ALL PS3 gamers angry like you seem to imply. In fact, I am certain many PS3 gamers will be quite pleased that they can use a mouse and keyboard instead of a clunky old gamepad.
Most Ps3 gamers aren't as mentally or physically challenged as PC gamers so I doubt it. |
TheReaper852
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
62
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:50:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Fatmanpro wrote: Clearly there are more PC players who play with KB+M on PS3
Than there are PS3 players who play with a controller
Thank you for changing the question. I didn't ask how many PC players there are on PS3 versus how many PS3 players there are. This change won't make ALL PS3 gamers angry like you seem to imply. In fact, I am certain many PS3 gamers will be quite pleased that they can use a mouse and keyboard instead of a clunky old gamepad.
lmao what do you not understand? I play ps3 because I like those controls. PS3 players don't want PC controls or they would play PC!
I don't care how clunky they are in comparison I like ps3 controls. |
ReGnUm DEl
Doomheim
622
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:51:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:ReGnUm DEl wrote:@ Lilianna Sentinel, all you do is whine and complain
Is this how all eve players behave???????? One of the big reasons I am even interested in Dust to begin with is because of Mouse and Keyboard support. I would be seriously disappointed if we all had to dumb down to playing with gamepads because a few people can't adapt to a better control scheme.
just a few right???? |
Lilianna Sentinel
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
295
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:51:00 -
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TheReaper852 wrote:
lmao what do you not understand? I play ps3 because I like those controls. PS3 players don't want PC controls or they would play PC!
I don't care how clunky they are in comparison I like ps3 controls.
Dust 514 isn't on PC though. |
Benjamin Hellios
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
259
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:53:00 -
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Enough with the kb/m thread spam already! If this game was also released on pc, then I'd say yes to balance it out but it's a ps3 exclusive so there is no good reason to do it other than the fact that some people don't know how to use a controller properly. This game was made for PS3 players who have no problem using a controller for FPS, not to atract whiny pc players who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn without kb/m. If any of you decide to get rid of your ps3 because of this, good riddance, the rest of us are doing just fine. |
TheReaper852
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
62
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:54:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:TheReaper852 wrote:
lmao what do you not understand? I play ps3 because I like those controls. PS3 players don't want PC controls or they would play PC!
I don't care how clunky they are in comparison I like ps3 controls.
Dust 514 isn't on PC though.
KB+M=PC, that is what you are asking for. |
Lilianna Sentinel
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
295
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:54:00 -
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Benjamin Hellios wrote:Enough with the kb/m thread spam already! If this game wasalso released on pc, then I'd say yes to balance it out but it's a ps3 exclusive so there is no good reason to do it other than the fact that some people don't know how to use a controller properly. This game was made for PS3 players who have no problem using a controller for FPS, not to atract whiny pc players who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn without kb/m. If any of you decide to get rid of your ps3 because of this, good riddance, the rest of us are doing just fine.
Well, I'll say the same thing to people who can't upgrade to a mouse and keyboard and quit as a result:
Good riddance. This is better for everyone. If you don't want to move forward, we're happy leaving you behind.
Just like when we move onto a new generation of hardware, just like when HD TVs come out, we can't stop and wait for those unwilling to upgrade. Except this upgrade is a decade late. |
Fatmanpro
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
251
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:56:00 -
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Benjamin Hellios wrote:Enough with the kb/m thread spam already! If this game was also released on pc, then I'd say yes to balance it out but it's a ps3 exclusive so there is no good reason to do it other than the fact that some people don't know how to use a controller properly. This game was made for PS3 players who have no problem using a controller for FPS, not to atract whiny pc players who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn without kb/m. If any of you decide to get rid of your ps3 because of this, good riddance, the rest of us are doing just fine.
QFT |
OnsIaught
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
112
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:57:00 -
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EVE players are so awful I wish they stayed on their PC all day instead of trying to turn a PS3 game into a PC game. |
TheReaper852
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
62
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Posted - 2012.07.01 20:58:00 -
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Lilianna Sentinel wrote:Benjamin Hellios wrote:Enough with the kb/m thread spam already! If this game wasalso released on pc, then I'd say yes to balance it out but it's a ps3 exclusive so there is no good reason to do it other than the fact that some people don't know how to use a controller properly. This game was made for PS3 players who have no problem using a controller for FPS, not to atract whiny pc players who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn without kb/m. If any of you decide to get rid of your ps3 because of this, good riddance, the rest of us are doing just fine. Well, I'll say the same thing to people who can't upgrade to a mouse and keyboard and quit as a result: Good riddance. This is better for everyone. If you don't want to move forward, we're happy leaving you behind.
It's not an upgrade, it's a downgrade since I prefer (and most ps3 players) a ps3 controller.
It is better for everyone? No it is better for PC players, who is this game trying to appeal to, pc or ps3 players? |
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