there is also no balance if you actually ban KB&M. it is already possible to convert the mouse and keyboard signals to gamepad signal with additional devices that cost 60 Gé¼ or you can buy modded mouse+additional controller that works as ps3 controller which is also expensive. those people owning such devices already have the advantage, I would rather see KB&M being in the game thus everyone can use it without having to spend alot of money for it.

Yes, I know. Elum, however, seems to think otherwise. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink.

get eagle eye. it gets updates so that it can always be compatible. The set up can take some time but it works great. Now only problem i found with it is that in bf3 you want to use controller close if you use jets, tanks, or the like because that is where the controller is much better for handling.... good hunting

Hello everyone.

To keep you informed on this subject, KB&M support is coming. We currently plan to release it in the next major beta patch (build).

so i gest no one remembers E3 CSS Xbox vs PC and halo xbox vs pc

it was pc that won all the time and the xbox guys only won 4 games in all 6 yrs

so as for hearing this CCP why not just turn your game into a PC and MAC only game then because its no longer the 1st of its kind any more .

what would have been a 1st mmo pc in real time with a FPS console game you made by adding KB&M something that's been done be for like 2 times by now .
which is a MMO PC in real time with FPS PC .
but if that's were your going with this KB&M add a PC FPS to it then to hell with dust 514 i was only hopping to be part of the 1st to play a MMO PC in real time with FPS console game.
not something that's been done be for

as for sov i guest this makes it better seeing how we are not begging COD kids or MAG fags to shut up about there k/d.s and f#cking win the game so we can take and hold are sov .
so not that there just going to camp and hide and rack up only kills from the def team as the MCC go.s up in flames !
For the 5th time in the row because most COD and MAG gamers are all alike in that is K/D is 1st not the game or who they are fighting for .
2nd that the pay outs should only be 5 mill at most because any more then they would just sit back and make isk off us and not give a dam if they win or loss .
Any thing higher then 5 mill and they will not even try to win when all they need is a good K/D and points and seeing how they dont get hurt if they lost.
they still get payed for showing up and with mill suits and guns even more so to make them think this eve games a joke and K/D is all ways god !

so ya KB&M ok for sov but still on the other hand i like alot of beta gamers wanted to be playing the 1st of its kind.

its hard to say which is the right thing to do but who am i im just a beta tester playing what looks like a rely cool game that growing up into a game that i want to play with my other game eve.

i dont want KB&M but i dont want to have to get down on my keens like you do to a 7 yr old and tell and show them how to do something that i want and not want they want !
with is sov i want to keep my sov and i want to take it .
i what i dont want to do is pay over and over agen trying to fined a team that's not in it for K/D.
but there are things that CCP if you do keep KB&M out of dust is to fix it so that its hard to camp and hard to get a hi k/d even if you are a K/D ***** .
if any thing K/D should come with team work not running around with a AR or riding a tank or drop-ship and taking down the other team and not giving a **** about the MCC.

and as for dust guys getting into my ship and taking it over! no your not going to pod me im all ready in station
HOPE YOU LIKE A SHIP FULL OF C4 SCRUBS !!!!! .....and yes i hit the BIG RED BUTTON !

99% of all PS3 Console online FPSs do not have any suport for KB/M by dev. or SONY 's request.
To keep the game as a Console game . And to give the players even playing field . ( Every ones using Controlers )
Now you got the Move which sucks at most shooters but in some games its fun to play with.
But thats a PS3 exc.

PC is open competitive gaming. KB/M or Controler . Anything goes. If you got the $ .

Console is Clean competitive gaming . Controler . Not anything goes. Not If you got the $ .

Wen you are going to a PC gaming competition its 99 % all KB/M..

Wen you are going to a PS3 , Xbox , Wil Console gaming competition its 99 % all Controlers.

Theres a resin for having no suport for KB/M on the Console for online FPSs.( Clean Gaming )
If there is any KB/M suport in a Console game for FPS its for internet browser, texting and chatting not for playing.

Not saying ther aren't some who bend the rules. To them I say ( Clean your Game up )
And the hole if you can't beat them join them thing . Not going to work or happen here .

This is not a madhouse like on PC . ( Anything goes )

A Console heart and sole is the ( Controler / exc. Games )

Stop trying to Hotz fix every thing.

Like I'd said some of you need to go back and read the terms and conditions to installing 4.21 software update for the PS3.You are suppose to have a ( Clean ) PS3 Gaming Console for online game play .

Pick your Game Up.
In multi platfrom Gaming.

I can see the potential in this game but there are some gray aeras and lines that should not be cross .

Just like to keep my Console Gaming Clean .

What happens in space ships happens in spaces .

Just think about what you're being told .

I don't think ther will be a full intergration of the two games. A balance of the two with a line in the middle .Maybe.

Ther will have to be a stopping point some where. EvE players do pay to play ther game.

Full intergration will mean PS3 Console players can go out in to EvE's univers for free. While paying EvE players can come to the planet. Why pay to play on PC wen you can come to the Console and play for free.

That doesn't look good for CCP. Ther will have to be a stopping point some where.

Could this be the gray aera :
Now if you are going to put KB/M to ship operation . Like for ships in orbit around the DUST planet thats fine. KB/M In internet browser , texting , chatting , In ship , In space station , In ship operation and In station operation Only . FPS Controler . That will be fine , ok , good and etc.

Could this be the line :
But if you are going to let the KB/M in to the SHOOTER part thats not fine. It will be unfair for the ones using the PS3 Gaming Console Controlers .

Theres got to be a balance in the middle.


Just can't believe thers so much suport out there for Online Console Multi Player Cheating these days ..
Its just sad . Sad I tell you .. ( Clean your Game Up )

( Stop suporting Online Console Multi Player Cheating )

( Its Wrong )

( Some say they want KB/M on Console for Competitive reason.) Play Anything goes PC. For the right $.

( Some say they don't want the KB/M on PS3 Console for online FPS for Competitive reason . ) Play Clean as you go PS3 Console . For Free .

( Just think about what you're being told . )

CCP said they are going to( add ) KB/M to the game .
But not what they were adding it to ..

lol at forcing bad controls on people. KB/M is so easy I could put up a 5 kdr in any game if I used my fragnstien against people who are using controllers but wheres the fun in that. Its not even that hard to use a real controller. Adapt or die. I think a 'get good' is in order as well.

YEAH!!!!! WE HAVE 12 YEAR OLD KIDS AND COOKIES!!!!! COME TO THE DARK SIDE, BITCHES!

Thats fine I can us the KB/M and Controler together if need be.
CCP said they are going to( add ) KB/M to the game .
But not what they were adding it to ..

The fun is in the game actually doing what you told it to. I'm glad that you're good with a keyboard and mouse (hence it feeling "easy" to you), you shouldn't have any problem competing then, since you'll switch to a good control scheme and use the right tool for the job.

There's nothing fun about fighting against inferior controls, rather than your opponent. It's also not "easier," it simply works better. Calling it easier is like saying that it's easier to peel potatoes with a knife than with fingernail clippers. No **** it's easier, because it's actually well-suited to what you're trying to do, so you're not putting all your time and effort into using a poor tool that's not suited to the task, rather than actually accomplishing the task at hand.

We use mice for shooters because they're BETTER for shooters. We use wheels for racing games because they're BETTER for racing games. It's that simple. It's not about "easy" or "hard," it's about using what works best. In your argument, using a controller is like doing a no-consumables run in an MMO, or a zero-deaths run on the hardest difficulty (in any game.) Sure, it's harder to do it that way, but it's purely artificial (that's the whole point: artificially making it harder). It's probably not the best analogy, because doing that stuff legitimately increases the amount of tactics, reflexes and skill you have to have AT THE GAME, though. Forcing poor controls, rather than making the game more challenging, makes simply getting the game to do what you tell it to harder, and for no real gain in terms of achievement or skill.

By all means though, you're welcome to get good and adapt or die against those of us using good controls while you stubbornly stick to crappy ones and feel smug. At the end of the day, the better player tends to be the one that comes ahead, not the control interface (unless it's the interface you're less skilled with). The superiority of mice over controllers really only breaks the ties when players of equal skill meet and everything else is the same.

LMFAO The people that use KB/M against console players on console games are the same people that take steroids and then brag about how many home runs they have. I will still wreck you with my inferior controller barry bonds. I don't even need my frag. That is a promise. If you like playing KB/M in fps there are pc games you can play. If you are going to buy a console game with the intention of playing with KB/M then I am going to laugh in your face after I wreck you with my 6 axis.

Wow, just when you think the anti-mouse argument can't get any more stupid...

Whatever, I'm not anti mouse. I used to be a PC gamer. I'm anti Mouse vs 6 axis. You are a scrub if you need KB/M to well against people with inferior controls and deep down you all know its true.

Its not even hard to use a 6 axis. You are a joke if you need to use a mouse against people with inferior controls. You can have your KB/M. I will still wreck you with a 6 axis all day Barry Bonds. To bad you can't buy gun game with AUR.

Use a controller to play House of the Dead, then. See, using ****** controls makes you badass (or just stupid...)

Seriously though, you will try to wreck me with your sixaxis, and if you're actually as good as you think you are, we might actually have a fun match. If you're not, I'll win. If you're better than me, you'll win. And thanks to choice in controls, it won't be because of ****** ones determining the victor beforehand. If we're equally skilled, well, I'll gladly take the advantage I have over you by not having to fight against poor controls you have to.

Because at the end of the day, that's how it plays out. It eliminates unfamiliar / poor controls as part of the equation, or at least minimizes it. Unless EVERYTHING else is equal, including the actual core skill of the player with their preferred control method, you don't see much difference (other than the mouse user dying a lot less than he would with a controller, because he's not fighting with ****** controls). If everything IS equal, including your relative skill with your controls, that's the only time that you see the mouse advantage being the deciding factor. The rest of the time, it just reduces the amount of frustration and complaining from people that want decent controls (and helps keep people playing your game, since they're not SUFFERING through ****** controls to play).

GSP
Please hit puberty and learn to make a properly-structured post. Even trying to read that gives me a headache, never mind trying to make any actual sense out of your inane rambling. Please tell me you're a Goon.

The fact of the matter is its 100x easier to use a mouse in fps. If you are using a mouse against console players you have a distinct advantage over everyone else.

Thats fine I can us the KB/M and Controler together if need be.
Just saying Its a littel difficult trying to play two games with two KB/M on two different platforms at the same time.

yes i have ..

If you feel that way you should have ask CCP to make DUST on PC and all will be good on my end .

no love lost . you know.

If this does get KB/M controlls it would **** up things for console gamers, the difference on the control you get is just to big, lets face it you a console player wont last to a KB/M player

Except this has been thoroughly and repeatedly disproven, and we ARE getting KB/M. If you feel it would be too much for you to cope with you could always (*GASP!*) use a keyboard and mouse too, and then you too would have the ideal controls for an FPS, and the disadvantage of using a controller would disappear.

You know what? **** ideal controls, **** your "adapt or die" method, we are playing on consoles so that we won't be bothered by the "ideal control mechanism for Egoshooters" so **** off and play with your lovely overpriced razer KB/M combo, which would most likely not even work properly on the ps3, on your pc.

On a sidenote:
I know that kb/m is coming, and i know we can't do anything about it, but your completely ignorant mindset, your blatantly KB/M gloryfying attitude makes me real mad. I'd like to see you when some boy comes and say:"Well Justin Beiber is singing the songs for Dust514 so you could either cope with it or (GASP!) by the ******* overpriced album and shut up" - In this case you couldn't do anything against beiber singing the songs but i am pretty sure it would be still annoying as hell with all those beliebers swarming all over the place.


Worst case scenario:
First everyone have to get KB/M to stay competitive, then they have to buy some overpriced elitist extreme gamer remix KB/M Combos to stay competitve.

Best case scenario:
KB/M support sucks hard so that KB/M elitists either rage quit and sell their PS3, or adapt to the DS3 / Move controller.
(and i actually do believe this ones more probable, with all those extra drivers needed for any good mouse / keyboards).