Playing devil's advocate, I bet the problem is that by offering native support and allowing people to use any USB mouse and keyboard, the widespread use will completely out mode gamepad use.

I would like to see precisely that. I don't wan't my opponents to be disadvantaged by the DS3. And it could lead to more console games supporting KB/M.

Then we can finally get RTS games that don't suck :D

Why not?

Because stubborn people might complain that others have better controls so you'll just dumb everyone down their level?

That's bad design that leads to crap like Call of Duty.

No, it makes it so 10% of the playerbase dominate the 90%

because the game forces you to buy a piece of equipment you never use to be remotely good at the game

this game was designed for CONSOLE players in mind, not the PC, you guys have EVE.

I'd like to see where those numbers are coming from.

You never use? What are you typing with? And what did you click reply with?

That doesn't mean it has to be limited to gamepads.

i dont know why you guys are bothering to cry about keyboard and mouse. you are just gonna have to cry a lot more later when they slow it down to match controllers. do you guys really think they are going to add a secondary input device and make it better than the systems primary input device? and as for the aim assist crap, its garbage. good players dont use aim assist on a controller anyhow, it just throws off your aim.

I'd like to see where those numbers are coming from.


You never use? What are you typing with? And what did you click reply with?



That doesn't mean it has to be limited to gamepads.

I'm just being argumentative at this point because I've already made my point but wow @ that post.

They did say they wanted to make it on par with what people expect on PC.

even if i did use a kb/m where am i going to put it? i use my tv in the front room to play ps3 and i would have to set up a table with all them wires all i want to do is play games.

Made the post with the Keyboard on my laptop, which I wouldn't call a gaming PC. None of my friends use Mouse and Keyboard for PS3... can't name anybody I really know that uses Keyboard and Mouse on PS3... the point is the majority of a console game WILL use a gamepad, making it easier for PC gamers to dominate the competition is just a plain bad move. There have been tons of experiments and in nearly every case of the Keyboard and Mouse VS Gamepad, the ones who used the Gamepad got destroyed. Never use a Mouse and Keyboard for any of my games, don't see why a game I'm hyped for should be spoiled because the only way I can play is to use something that I hate to use. To summarize it all up, letting the minority of players use superior aiming against the majority of players is NOT A GOOD IDEA. If balance means dumbing down the game a bit then YES... I would gladly take a dumbed down balanced game rather than a complex unbalanced game.

even if i did use a kb/m where am i going to put it? i use my tv in the front room to play ps3 and i would have to set up a table with all them wires all i want to do is play games.

That KB/M vs gamepad test is a good reason that KB/M should be promoted as a standard console accessory, since the gamepads are so much inferior in FPS gaming.

That KB/M vs gamepad test is a good reason that KB/M should be promoted as a standard console accessory, since the gamepads are so much inferior in FPS gaming.

That KB/M vs gamepad test is a good reason that KB/M should be promoted as a standard console accessory, since the gamepads are so much inferior in FPS gaming.

Again (this has been explained about a bajillion times) it's entirely subjective. "easier" does not automatically mean "better." To go back, yet again, to my Hurdles vs. Sprint analogy, sprinting isn't BETTER than hurdles just because it's easier. Go Kart racing is easier than F1 racing, but that doesn't make Go Kart racing "better."

Bad controls is a problem, not an intentional challenge to overcome like you seem to imply.

Bad controls is a problem, not an intentional challenge to overcome like you seem to imply.

Again (this has been explained about a bajillion times) it's entirely subjective. "easier" does not automatically mean "better." To go back, yet again, to my Hurdles vs. Sprint analogy, sprinting isn't BETTER than hurdles just because it's easier. Go Kart racing is easier than F1 racing, but that doesn't make Go Kart racing "better."

that wont work. most people who play console do so because they don't want to use a keyboard and mouse, or they would be either playing on pc or already have a keyboard/mouse for their console.

seriously.. ds3 is not a bad system, if it was im fair positive the consoler builders would of stopped using them 10 years ago and fps wouldnt be the biggest selling games on consoles.

Yup, but they aren't, thus there is no point in unbalancing the game.

/argument

I dont get it why ppl whine about mouse and keyboard suppoprt? Nothing stops each and every ps3 owner from using it! And imo its just the same if someone has more powerfull pc that can run one or more eve clients smoothly vs the dude whit lacluster pc and always lagging. ITS YOR CHOISE. Why everyone should have to play whit bad hardware if you like to?

Its much like religion always pushing other to your ideology instead of free will and choise.

what amuses me about this post is how you end it. its your choose, consoler builds have choosen not to push kb/m because they feel (with there millions in r&d) its unfair.

and now kb/m people are forcing consolers to change there input rather then giving them the choice to play with what they prefure. because otherwise there behind and going to suffer in the battle

Nope, it's some of the DS3 user's that are demanding CCP to discontinue KB/M support so that they can game comfortably in their couch and not get carpal tunnel like us elite PC gamers. Don't forget that CCP already have decided for KB/M support. KB/M supporters are not demanding or forcing anything.

i kinda am im not going to play FPS whit DS3 i might try move but i think its eaven worse.... But realy if there is no workin m&k support i will just enjoy orbital bombing the **** out of console noobs! I have tested the game once and decided its mot playable by my standards whitout mouse. Im all about fee will and choises so i want to coose the natrual & fun way of playing.

i do understund the console guys in a way becous all new is naturaly fraighning to human nature. but sayin no to things that arent mandotory to use is kinda silly.

lol @ keyboard and mouse being new to anyone. the problem is consoles players prefer controllers over keyboard/mouse. that is why they play on console and not pc. what is silly is pc users coming to a console game and demanding an input device that will give an unfair advantage because you cant hack using a controller.