It's going to take penalties for leaving matches.

Put people that leave matches a lot in a queue that throws them into matches already in progress. Two birds, one stone.

A long time ago, eve online mission agents were divided into tiers of quality. Higher quality agents paid more isk. The requirements for access to higher quality agents was based on personal standing with said agents.

What if we could place EOM rewards on a system where rewards be reduced or increased? For players that team kill or leave matches early, they would soon find themselves with reduced rewards. Playing and completing matches would increase you're standing or security status and grant you increased rewards over time.

A limit could be allowed so players could quit a match if needed or if they're disconnected due to some other reason. Say the limit is once per every 4 hours you can quit a match early without being penalized.

Someone suggested that you change the button for cancelling queue from O to +ö. I think this is a good idea.
If you can also make the squad 're-queue' automatically when someone joins and/or leaves the squad, or if you make it so that anyone that joins the squad is automatically put into the queue with the rest of the squad that would be awesome.


There also _needs_ to be a lore reason for matchmaking...
(Oh, I something, something money, come on give me lots of honey.)


Someone also mentioned the idea of a reward for 'sticking it out', perhaps a high 'doesn't leave battles' rating would entitle mercs to demand that their employers reimburse them part of the value of the fittings that they lose in battle? Since it would only mitigate part of the ISK loss it wouldn't be directly exploitable. (It would have to be less than on par with simply selling the things & stuff.)


Edit: Can you make our ELO-ratings from before matchmaking being implemented decay over time, or rather as we play more matches under the new matchmaker, as it would be 'fair' if the old newbie-farming-ratings mattered less than the new up-against-peers-ratings. Oh and can you put our ELO-ratings on the EOM screen?

So, I was brainstorming ideas about the whole leaving match issue.

Why not just keep putting the people that leave back into that same match until they get the idea?

Flag their MU rating as a squad. If they left because they needed to pick up someone then their MU rating will have changed.

If they left battle because they needed to log off for a bit it wouldn't effect them.

BUT... if they left because they thought the fight was going to be too hard just keep putting them back in that same match.

May work, but what if when they left some other players got refilled into this battle, then we can't just simply lock those left to an unjoinable battle - because it's now full - I would rather first fix the issue where a squad quit because of a single member didn't make it.

That being said, we would try all means that could possibly fix problems and we could work out together the best way for DUST.

Nope, I'm plummeting there too. It's ok: most people just have a hard time coming to grips with just how bad I am.

As I have said so far as a lower tier player I've generally been enjoying the matchmaker. Even though I am a low level player and can't really comment on vets matchmaking and experience, as a general thing, making public contracts more of an ISK sink for vets can only be a good thing. I know people who have the SP for proto want to be able to, and feel that they should be entitled to, run it all the time but the fact is that there are two metrics to what you can and can't do in Dust SP and ISK. Having one doesn't mean you have to have the other, and don't forget there are benefits to having, eg Assault Rifle lvl 5 even if you're only using a std/adv version (this is very apparent in lower tier matches currently by the way).

Although I agree with saying that epic public battles should pay out epically in general I feel public contracts will benefit from people having to be more ISK aware leading to more people being in the middle ground between the high and low tiers undulating between the two good week to bad.

The economy is broken and some people have more money than they'll ever need, BUT this should be being whittled down unless they're keeping it topped up in regular PC. I've not run it before but I know PC needs fixing to be genuinely fun and accessible...... Maybe things like Raids if they come in will help too. FW should stay as a 'run what you brung' arena without the new matchmaking logic.

Running proto in public contracts should be a good trade off of Risk vs Reward but the emphasis should, in general, be on the Risk. That is just my opinion and I admit that it may change if I ever get to be in that position and do understand why others won't agree/ feel it is wrong for Dust.

Aeon suggested using the special contracts tab for one off missions that offer guaranteed payouts/salvage for those completing the battle. These could also offer an option for regular hardcore proto on proto action as people know the risk from the get go. The gamble here should be MAYBE you'll get more from doing a public contract instead but maybe not.

Also I like the reappearance of the idea of variable war points for killing higher tiered suits. Saw something similar floated a year or so ago and assumed it had been discounted. Would discourage people dropping into the lower tier of matchmaking and protostomping (I've mentioned that I had a member of Prima Gallicus running full proto min assault in a match the other night against all noobs and going 65/0) esp if there was an inverse multiplier for suits below your tier too??

That'll do for me today, have a good day all.

Without needing to separate the community further.

As promised, we've mini updated the mini update again to allow some slightly unbalanced battles to happen for those who waited long enough.

We've also noticed currently the engine may have problems dealing with some players in special circumstance, we'll fix that in a recent update as well.