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B-F M
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.09 22:32:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:...The Caldari scout will be the natural long range, low ehp hunter...
I like where you're going with this.. I am all for limiting the ability to brick tank on cal scouts (currently possible to have around 500eHP while still maintaining other bonuses - e.g. check this guy out)
My main issue with the cal scout is that it has too many advantages:
- can be invisible
- can see position/location of all non gal-scout enemies up to ~50m
- can tank shields
- super fast movement/strafe
- and still has enough PG/CPU to fit a lethal light weapon/sidearm
Awesome roadmap for this release. Can't wait (for my new min commando suit colors)!
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B-F M
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.09 23:29:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:B-F M wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:...The Caldari scout will be the natural long range, low ehp hunter... *snip* If I want to be invisible I need 2 complex damps which leaves me with 87 armor. If I want to see other who are using 2 damps I need at least 3 precision which leaves me with 235 Shields. If I only want to have better than average scans and don't use a single precision mod I have 453 shields. So if I want to scan other scouts using damps I only have 235 shields and 87 armor to adequately damp from other cal scouts. Or I can try to brick tank the lows with 300 armor but i'm quite scannable. Agree of fittings although some of that has to do with the precision mods being quite good fitting wise. The profit offered will be scanned down by a double complex precision scout and can be avoided by any scout running double damps or even perhaps a single proto damp and a proto cloak currently.
Your examples are correct, but it seems like you are talking about extremes, I don't mean invisible as in "unscannable by the best scanners", I just meant it more generally.. mainly referring to a cloak in that it is invisible to the majority of other players (although this varies based on lighting as we all know).
The example fit I posted will not be able to scan literally every other player, but it'll pick up every non-scout player (up to low-dampened scouts) - which is usually most of the enemy team.
My argument was comparing the cal scout to assault classes in that it has many advantages that are impossible to achieve with any assault, sorry I should've clarified
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B-F M
Ghosts of Dawn
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Posted - 2014.07.09 23:33:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:B-F M wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:...The Caldari scout will be the natural long range, low ehp hunter... I like where you're going with this.. I am all for limiting the ability to brick tank on cal scouts (currently possible to have around 500eHP while still maintaining other bonuses - e.g. check this guy out) My main issue with the cal scout is that it has too many advantages: - can be invisible - can see position/location of all non gal-scout enemies up to ~50m - can tank shields - super fast movement/strafe - and still has enough PG/CPU to fit a lethal light weapon/sidearm Awesome roadmap for this release. Can't wait (for my new min commando suit colors)!  Are you serious ??? Brick tank Caldari scouts ??? That doesn't even sound right and basically your talking about the wrong race . I play every day and I have never seen a bricked out Caldari scout , NEVER since the employment of full racial .
Check out the fit I posted, it's totally viable, has just under 500eHP while still maintaining vastly above average situational awareness, speed, damage and a low profile.
They are rare, but I'm surprised (and envious) you've not come up against them.
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B-F M
Ghosts of Dawn
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Posted - 2014.07.09 23:43:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:B-F M wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:B-F M wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:...The Caldari scout will be the natural long range, low ehp hunter... I like where you're going with this.. I am all for limiting the ability to brick tank on cal scouts (currently possible to have around 500eHP while still maintaining other bonuses - e.g. check this guy out) My main issue with the cal scout is that it has too many advantages: - can be invisible - can see position/location of all non gal-scout enemies up to ~50m - can tank shields - super fast movement/strafe - and still has enough PG/CPU to fit a lethal light weapon/sidearm Awesome roadmap for this release. Can't wait (for my new min commando suit colors)! Are you serious ??? Brick tank Caldari scouts ??? That doesn't even sound right and basically your talking about the wrong race . I play every day and I have never seen a bricked out Caldari scout , NEVER since the employment of full racial . Check out the fit I posted, it's totally viable, has just under 500eHP while still maintaining vastly above average situational awareness, speed, damage and a low profile. They are rare, but I'm surprised (and envious) you've not come up against them. You're not hiding from anything with that fit. Just saying. Maybe in your run of the mill pubmatch where nobody runs counters to anything but that fit will get spotted no problem in a PC match. <500 ehp is not "brick tanked." That's your average EHP of a scout in general. Things are generally refered to as bricked tanked when every mod is EHP.
Yeah good point(s). You're correct that it is a pub issue, good to know that it's a bad PC fit too.. thanks for that.
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B-F M
Ghosts of Dawn
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Posted - 2014.07.10 02:20:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:B-F M wrote:
Check out the fit I posted, it's totally viable, has just under 500eHP while still maintaining vastly above average situational awareness, speed, damage and a low profile.
They are rare, but I'm surprised (and envious) you've not come up against them.
I can understand that and all but I can get that on a Hunter scout in my lows alone . That's what I mean , I understand you but to me that's just not bricking ... not real bricking .
Yeah, I misused the term 'brick' I thought it was meant stacking a bunch of either shield/armor not necessarily both.
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