Players will always be unhappy regardless of what is done. A respec helps players who feel they made rash decisions (I've been one of those people) but it does nothing for the hardcore vets who do whatever they want. I'd be more than happy to save up for a different class since respecing leaves me with gear I currently cant sell.

CCP, you need a more user friendly design for new players. They don't understand roles or the current gameplay. I'd go so far as to suggest preventing buying items and skills until 10+ games have been played. People rarely eat something they aren't familiar with without a taste.

Then move them to the rookie servers etc etc

Seriously when people threaten to leave because of how the devs make this I say "go". Take a break, most of us who've been here for a year or more have done it. Play other games, go outside, read a book, if this game gives you so much stress than for your own health and happiness please go. If you decide to come back, great, the next update is a great time to check in on the game. I mean you'll have half the potential SP with no grind. Keep the toxic and unproductive QQ out, it makes it hard for anything of value to get to the devs.

Let me make one last point in CCPs defense. They are one of the few game developers who shape their games based on player input. They interact, have global gatherings, and their support team has to be one of the most responsive and reasonable I've dealt with. In the end though, it's there decision on what is done to this game, they are a company that needs to make money to support it's employees, and this F2P game monetizes on the grind. I will point out imbalances and give them ideas, but I will never expect them to do everything I say, because in the end they see the numbers, they know the stats, they have the plan, and they need to make money.

Take a step back and just be happy there is a respec, they are almost doubling the suits, and they have given us countless events to make enough to try the new stuff. The largest complaint is not that people want SP for new things, but that they don't like having SP in things they don't use anymore. Trust me if you play this game long enough you'll find out that there is a use for everything, and if you're afraid of change, don't invest too much in anything.

So to reiterate, if you're still pissed, and still think this is all unreasonable, just take a break. If not, lets try to be productive.

Seriously when people threaten to leave because of how the devs make this I say "go". Take a break, most of us who've been here for a year or more have done it. Play other games, go outside, read a book, if this game gives you so much stress than for your own health and happiness please go. If you decide to come back, great, the next update is a great time to check in on the game. I mean you'll have half the potential SP with no grind. Keep the toxic and unproductive QQ out, it makes it hard for anything of value to get to the devs.

Let me make one last point in CCPs defense. They are one of the few game developers who shape their games based on player input. They interact, have global gatherings, and their support team has to be one of the most responsive and reasonable I've dealt with. In the end though, it's there decision on what is done to this game, they are a company that needs to make money to support it's employees, and this F2P game monetizes on the grind. I will point out imbalances and give them ideas, but I will never expect them to do everything I say, because in the end they see the numbers, they know the stats, they have the plan, and they need to make money.

Take a step back and just be happy there is a respec, they are almost doubling the suits, and they have given us countless events to make enough to try the new stuff. The largest complaint is not that people want SP for new things, but that they don't like having SP in things they don't use anymore. Trust me if you play this game long enough you'll find out that there is a use for everything, and if you're afraid of change, don't invest too much in anything.

So to reiterate, if you're still pissed, and still think this is all unreasonable, just take a break. If not, lets try to be productive.

I honestly just believe people are mad that their Rail Rifles and Combat Rifles are getting nerfed and they want their points back for Mass Drivers and SCRs.

I honestly just believe people are mad that their Rail Rifles and Combat Rifles are getting nerfed and they want their points back for Mass Drivers and SCRs.

I understand. I know it sucks and it's a little disappointing but everyone knew the new suits would be implemented eventually and people spent their SP knowing they may never get it back. Cubs, for example, hasn't invested in the sentinel knowing he may never get that SP back ( I understand that we are discussing weapons.) With this event and all events to follow it WILL ALLOW for people to have a cache of SP for people to spend. CCP is doing their best to prepare people for the gamestyle they wish to play. People will end up using their invested SP. I have Prof 5 in SCR and I do not plan on using it much come 1.8. To be honest and as dumb as it sounds I will probably be investing in Cald Commando which has no grenade slot and I also have Gren 5 haha. I think this game has come a long way and still is moving forward, just not at the pace at which people are wanting (that's life freaking deal with it.)

But there is people like me, the purists.
I dont want stuff from other race on my suit.
And spec in that because there wasnt other chance.
Now with that ne implements and posibilities i can put points, what i grind in what i wanted before.
Sadly i cant swap scramble pistol for bolt what honestly really pises me off.
But i still believe there will be some chance.

I can completely understand. You have two weeks worth of SP/Bonus SP and Event SP. You can't tell me you want have atleast 2-3 mil for the launch

I'm just trying to stay positive and hopeful for the game bud. Disappointment is a plague that must be checked before it spreads.

I'll still spec into Rail Rifles if we got a respec.

I would too if i used a caldari suit but i dont see the point in using it on my gallente suits now.

Plenty of wrong things done with this respec decision that CCP has made, It should have been an infantry Respec because:

1. New Weapons Coming out

2. Damage & Range on weapons have nerfed (Apart from the LR Range, which gets buffed)

3. New Suits

4. Equipment Stats Changed

Plus others which i've forgot...

To be honest i think CCP were drunk when making this stupid decision, what's the point of us contributing if they're only going to listen to those stupid CPMs?

Basicaly it seems like something went wrong.
I dont know whos fault it is, because we told them how it will be.
But from some wierd reason suits are changable and arms not.
Even they both are just on same level.
I dont get logic, where is Racial suit more than Racial weapon.
Stats was changed, ne suits and weapons implemented.
Why their decision is like this i just dont understand.
Its really seems like few boyos just dont like chance to make a change.
Nothing else i really dont see.
I really pray for change, CCP should rethink their decision, honestly.
Till that time i will be off game on passive.
Hell i wanted just pure racial suit and invest poits finaly to proper caldari tech.
Like this i will have crapy noncaldari stuff on my suit for ever, just because i must before.
Tank driver had respec n their machines with all.
Why i like infatry can have same thing.
I pressume i'll just wait for destiny beta and game itself.
I dont want grind time what i put in game again.
Hell they really need to rething this, i like this game but this is just another setback, nothing else.
With full respec there can be gig wave of player back and we all can have what we wanted.
With this there will be nothing, just another sad story in dust 514 epitaph.

I agree with you, to be honest the choice is obvious a full infantry respec & if it were me at CCP i would make that choice final & optinal for Vets & Newbies, but CCP went full ******** & went with Dropsuit Respec.
CCP obviously doesn't know what they're doing & they're asking for help from us to make a decision, which they don't need help because it's obvious that 1.8 needs a full infantry respec, just like 1.7 with vehicles...

Derp CCP Derp...

So SP refund aside... WTF is tthe CPM??? They definately aren't listening, just some old angry vets **** blocking the game having a fresh start here. After all in the Dev blog; "After lengthy discussions with the CPM".

Put your hands up if you see any CPM members playing the ******* game. I sure as hell haven't. Saw IWS months back, he brought a crappy missile tank out, get roflstomped and left battle.

This is all on CCP. I haven't seen a single CPM member that was not in favor of a full infantry respec. There might be one somewhere, but the CPM even made forum threads saying we needed respecs (Kane). CCP heard both the CPM and us ask for a respec, and called the partial thing they gave us "listening".

Honestly, you guys need to give it a rest. The vast majority of the forum community agrees with you, but the decision has been made. The constant recurring whining will change nothing. So please, for the love of God, knock it off!

You're allowing it to happen?

God, this is why most of the government is taking your liberties, you can't let this crap happen, either if it's a company, corporation or government.