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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
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Posted - 2015.02.24 20:44:00 -
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TritusX wrote:This thread is where I come to qq about my terribad min scout fits and convince everyone to give me theirs
On that note, what do you guys think about these
31k ADV MIN SCOUT
Scout M-1/Series
Breach SMG
Ishukone NK
2x Enhanced Shield Extenders
1x Enhanced Precision
2x Enhanced Dampener
1x Cloak Field
and 29k SG ADV MIN SCOUT
Scout M-1/Series
CRG-3 Shotgun
Breach SMG
the rest is the same
I wouldn't use the 2x enhanced dampeners, instead swap them for kin cats. Minmatar scouts really depend on their speed, and since they have no bonus to dampening, you will be seen rather easily by other scouts still. Other than that, good fit.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6797
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Posted - 2015.02.24 20:46:00 -
[29792] - Quote
TritusX wrote:This thread is where I come to qq about my terribad min scout fits and convince everyone to give me theirs
On that note, what do you guys think about these
31k ADV MIN SCOUT
Scout M-1/Series
Breach SMG
Ishukone NK
2x Enhanced Shield Extenders
1x Enhanced Precision
2x Enhanced Dampener
1x Cloak Field
and 29k SG ADV MIN SCOUT
Scout M-1/Series
CRG-3 Shotgun
Breach SMG
the rest is the same
Knives go in the Primary slot 
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1181
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Posted - 2015.02.24 20:54:00 -
[29793] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:TritusX wrote:This thread is where I come to qq about my terribad min scout fits and convince everyone to give me theirs
On that note, what do you guys think about these
31k ADV MIN SCOUT
Scout M-1/Series
Breach SMG
Ishukone NK
2x Enhanced Shield Extenders
1x Enhanced Precision
2x Enhanced Dampener
1x Cloak Field
and 29k SG ADV MIN SCOUT
Scout M-1/Series
CRG-3 Shotgun
Breach SMG
the rest is the same Knives go in the Primary slot
That's how I play too!
Overlord of Broman
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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
324
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Posted - 2015.02.24 21:14:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:What do the 2 enh damps get you?
I have a better sense of security. Before, I ran two KinCats, and was getting scanned all over the place. These days, I like seeing "SCAN ATTEMPT FAILED" on my screen, and I also see that I'm not getting jumped much by other scouts
Killer of Grand Master Kubo by a shotgun, Gav by a BAR, and countless others
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6903
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Posted - 2015.02.24 21:38:00 -
[29795] - Quote
TritusX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:What do the 2 enh damps get you? I have a better sense of security. Before, I ran two KinCats, and was getting scanned all over the place. These days, I like seeing "SCAN ATTEMPT FAILED" on my screen, and I also see that I'm not getting jumped much by other scouts
The two enhanced damps put you at 21 dB.
One cmp damp puts you 24 dB; on enh damp puts you at 25 dB.
Advanced scans are 36dB.
Proto scans are 28dB.
GalLogi proto scans are 21dB.
Running two enhanced damps nets you zero benefit in terms of beating Active Scanners unless you're running adv/pro cloaked.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
324
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Posted - 2015.02.24 21:57:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:TritusX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:What do the 2 enh damps get you? I have a better sense of security. Before, I ran two KinCats, and was getting scanned all over the place. These days, I like seeing "SCAN ATTEMPT FAILED" on my screen, and I also see that I'm not getting jumped much by other scouts Running two enhanced damps only benefits you if you're adv+ cloaked. 2 enh damps - 21 dB 1 enh damp - 25 dB 1 cmp damp - 24 dB Adv Scans - 36dB Pro Scans - 28dB GalLogi Scans - 21dB
You mean like I have a proto or ADV cloak? It works because some noobs are running basic scanners etc. and again, most scouts don't run precision enhancers, and if they do, they won't pick up me and take me out for the easy target.
That scout you see on the kill board with 20 kills and 15 deaths
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
1841
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Posted - 2015.02.24 22:02:00 -
[29797] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Spademan wrote:Edit: also why do most of the curse words I use end up uncensored? Bastard, Bollocks, Feck, Arse, Shite.
All of them, just getting past. Check your brit privilege! You call me a brit again and I'll firebomb your shed a¦á_a¦á
Good luck, I'm behind 7 dampeners!
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Murt Lesp
Leviathan Battalion
214
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Posted - 2015.02.24 22:10:00 -
[29798] - Quote
Pub match storytime!
Douvole facility DOMINATION
They held the point with a squad of heavies with GAL Logi support with scanners.
Scanned, I was on the balcony above the objective and they kept sending in grunts from the roof to take me out. I got gud with my new knives that match. Couldn't do a thing about the objective, but distracting 6-8 guys just by being nearby was worth it!
Logi Forever
Scout in Training
What's Assault? Never heard of it before
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
5930
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Posted - 2015.02.24 22:15:00 -
[29799] - Quote
Pseudogenesis wrote:Spademan wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Spademan wrote:Edit: also why do most of the curse words I use end up uncensored? Bastard, Bollocks, Feck, Arse, Shite.
All of them, just getting past. Check your brit privilege! You call me a brit again and I'll firebomb your shed a¦á_a¦á Good luck, I'm behind 7 dampeners!
Fine, I suppose I'll just take part in some good old Irish tradition.
Like blowing up parliament.
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
1841
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Posted - 2015.02.24 22:21:00 -
[29800] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Spademan wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Spademan wrote:Edit: also why do most of the curse words I use end up uncensored? Bastard, Bollocks, Feck, Arse, Shite.
All of them, just getting past. Check your brit privilege! You call me a brit again and I'll firebomb your shed a¦á_a¦á Good luck, I'm behind 7 dampeners! Fine, I suppose I'll just take part in some good old Irish tradition. Like blowing up parliament.
But Guy Fawkes wasn't irish 
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
5931
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Posted - 2015.02.24 22:32:00 -
[29801] - Quote
Pseudogenesis wrote:But Guy Fawkes wasn't irish
No, but Patrick Furlong was. And he actually succeeded.
And lived.
Without gunpowder.
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6904
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Posted - 2015.02.24 22:48:00 -
[29802] - Quote
@ Tritus - Here's my 2 Enh Damp fit, btw:
Dragonfly Scout (13.3k)
HS: Enh Shields
LS: Cmp KinCat, Enh Damp (x2)
PW: Dren Shotgun
SW: Toxin SMG
EQ: Std Cloak, Std RE
Observation: Swapping out an Enhanced damp for a Basic changes profile from 18dB to 19dB.
Dragonfly Scout (16.6k)
HS: Cmp Precision
LS: Cmp KinCat, Enh Damp, Bsc Damp
PW: Dren Shotgun
SW: Toxin SMG
EQ: Adv Cloak, Std RE
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
2174
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Posted - 2015.02.24 23:42:00 -
[29803] - Quote
@Raven
We'll get that duel another time
Tacnet covered ya pretty well when u came down the stairs. Thought u had the plan of waiting for me to run into the door then drop behind me with the sg.
TLDR : XD
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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
325
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Posted - 2015.02.24 23:46:00 -
[29804] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:@ Tritus - Here's my 2 Enh Damp fit, btw:
Dragonfly Scout (13.3k)
HS: Enh Shields
LS: Cmp KinCat, Enh Damp (x2)
PW: Dren Shotgun
SW: Toxin SMG
EQ: Std Cloak, Std RE
Observation: Swapping out an Enhanced damp for a Basic changes profile from 18dB to 19dB.
Dragonfly Scout (16.6k)
HS: Cmp Precision
LS: Cmp KinCat, Enh Damp, Bsc Damp
PW: Dren Shotgun
SW: Toxin SMG
EQ: Adv Cloak, Std RE
May be getting Merc Pack soon, so hyped. Looking for that SG BPO though.
That scout you see on the kill board with 20 kills and 15 deaths
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6906
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Posted - 2015.02.24 23:56:00 -
[29805] - Quote
Just made > 450,000 Isk in an Ambush match! Getting stomped!
The match began in classic Scotty fashion, so I pulled out the Dragonfly Uplink fit and ran. Ran away in more-or-less in big circles, as the blob killed all behind me. Always one Uplink ahead of the next reaping. By match end, I was one 5 guys remaining.
Go team! \o/
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
89
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Posted - 2015.02.24 23:59:00 -
[29806] - Quote
XxBlazikenxX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Llast 326 wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:So, because I'm too lazy to read the 45000 replies to this thread, can someone tell me what this thread is all about? Other people have summed it upGǪ On another note You are the person who wrote the Min guide. Nice job  Thought I recognized his name :-) Yes, Blaziken, this thread was once about buffing Scouts toward a state of balance. Now it is a loosely veiled, evil conspiracy thread! Our goal is Scout Supremacy, and we intend to reach that goal through ... proposing Scout nerfs. The "how" remains unclear, but we're awfully determined. Let's take off strafing.
Lets take off auto aim too :D
Killed by Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p on June 28 1914.
Last words: "Nova Knives and a Flaylock Pistol? I might just die laughing!"
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution
Negative-Feedback
2146
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:02:00 -
[29807] - Quote
That Greek brawling game is pretty awesome. Its rare you get a brawler with a little depth to the combat system that isn't spam quick attack. That feeling when your shield breaks against archer fire and all you have left is your roll and momentum XD
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
314
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:28:00 -
[29808] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Just made > 450,000 Isk in an Ambush match! Getting stomped!
The match began in classic Scotty fashion, so I pulled out the Dragonfly Uplink fit and ran. Ran away in more-or-less in big circles, as the blob killed all behind me. Always one Uplink ahead of the next reaping. By match end, I was one 5 guys remaining.
Go team! \o/
There is no team, only blue people that don't know what their doing.
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
Recruitment
Guide Writer
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6803
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Posted - 2015.02.25 00:43:00 -
[29809] - Quote
XxBlazikenxX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Just made > 450,000 Isk in an Ambush match! Getting stomped!
The match began in classic Scotty fashion, so I pulled out the Dragonfly Uplink fit and ran. Ran away in more-or-less in big circles, as the blob killed all behind me. Always one Uplink ahead of the next reaping. By match end, I was one 5 guys remaining.
Go team! \o/ There is no team, only blue people that don't know what their doing.
it's a sad fact that if running uplinks, or better yet Logi, being on the stomped team is the most profitable. 
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8016
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Posted - 2015.02.25 02:27:00 -
[29810] - Quote
XxBlazikenxX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Llast 326 wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:So, because I'm too lazy to read the 45000 replies to this thread, can someone tell me what this thread is all about? Other people have summed it upGǪ On another note You are the person who wrote the Min guide. Nice job Thought I recognized his name :-) Yes, Blaziken, this thread was once about buffing Scouts toward a state of balance. Now it is a loosely veiled, evil conspiracy thread! Our goal is Scout Supremacy, and we intend to reach that goal through ... proposing Scout nerfs. The "how" remains unclear, but we're awfully determined. Let's take off strafing.
Its not strafing that is the problem so much as lack of inertia or any real physics.
As to your original question:
This thread was originally started as the Scout Registry shortly after official release when scouts were under performing so greatly that approximately 5% of the population were scouts. This of course when SP was at a much greater premium.
The intention was to document scout disparities and to discuss problems and issues regarding builds as they came. Unfortunately we were told that changes were coming, month after month, to the point where the Registry as it has been started simply shut down. That is until the delay between 1.7 and 1.8 during which we started to go off topic more and bond as a community, which earned us a lock, only to be saved and moved from GD to the Locker Room.
Now it is essentially a social hub for all the original scouts and anyone else who wishes to stop by and talk Dust, balancing, or any other number of off topic things.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
314
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Posted - 2015.02.25 02:31:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Llast 326 wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:So, because I'm too lazy to read the 45000 replies to this thread, can someone tell me what this thread is all about? Other people have summed it upGǪ On another note You are the person who wrote the Min guide. Nice job Thought I recognized his name :-) Yes, Blaziken, this thread was once about buffing Scouts toward a state of balance. Now it is a loosely veiled, evil conspiracy thread! Our goal is Scout Supremacy, and we intend to reach that goal through ... proposing Scout nerfs. The "how" remains unclear, but we're awfully determined. Let's take off strafing. Its not strafing that is the problem so much as lack of inertia or any real physics. As to your original question: This thread was originally started as the Scout Registry shortly after official release when scouts were under performing so greatly that approximately 5% of the population were scouts. This of course when SP was at a much greater premium. The intention was to document scout disparities and to discuss problems and issues regarding builds as they came. Unfortunately we were told that changes were coming, month after month, to the point where the Registry as it has been started simply shut down. That is until the delay between 1.7 and 1.8 during which we started to go off topic more and bond as a community, which earned us a lock, only to be saved and moved from GD to the Locker Room. Now it is essentially a social hub for all the original scouts and anyone else who wishes to stop by and talk Dust, balancing, or any other number of off topic things.
Oh cool, what are your thoughts on the Minmatar scout, I think it is not in the same class as the other scouts but in a class of its own due to no EWAR bonuses and instead bonuses to Nova Knifing Damage and Hacking Speed.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8021
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Posted - 2015.02.25 02:37:00 -
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I would agree to an extent.
It was probably more evident pre EWAR circles and Medium EWAR changes, but now that EWAR itself has been diminished, its lack of any bonus to it is less of an issue.
Knifing and hacking I think are significant enough.
The cloak changes really hurt us as much as anything, as we were more dependent on it because of EWAR.
We'll see how it handles when backpedal speed is reduced.
Amarr is the one that really needs help as it has no role.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
314
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Posted - 2015.02.25 02:39:00 -
[29813] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:I would agree to an extent.
It was probably more evident pre EWAR circles and Medium EWAR changes, but now that EWAR itself has been diminished, its lack of any bonus to it is less of an issue.
Knifing and hacking I think are significant enough.
The cloak changes really hurt us as much as anything, as we were more dependent on it because of EWAR.
We'll see how it handles when backpedal speed is reduced.
Amarr is the one that really needs help as it has no role.
True, perhaps Amarrian needs to get rid of its EWAR bonus and increase its stamina bonuses.
Terrestrial Combat Officer of Y.A.M.A.H
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8022
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Posted - 2015.02.25 02:43:00 -
[29814] - Quote
XxBlazikenxX wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I would agree to an extent.
It was probably more evident pre EWAR circles and Medium EWAR changes, but now that EWAR itself has been diminished, its lack of any bonus to it is less of an issue.
Knifing and hacking I think are significant enough.
The cloak changes really hurt us as much as anything, as we were more dependent on it because of EWAR.
We'll see how it handles when backpedal speed is reduced.
Amarr is the one that really needs help as it has no role. True, perhaps Amarrian needs to get rid of its EWAR bonus and increase its stamina bonuses.
The popular opinion is a biotics bonus. So long as they don't change the Minjas any, I have no problem if Amarr are better than us in any biotics capacity.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
6912
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Posted - 2015.02.25 02:56:00 -
[29815] - Quote
Jumps!
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Pseudogenesis
Nos Nothi
1844
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Posted - 2015.02.25 03:05:00 -
[29816] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Llast 326 wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:So, because I'm too lazy to read the 45000 replies to this thread, can someone tell me what this thread is all about? Other people have summed it upGǪ On another note You are the person who wrote the Min guide. Nice job Thought I recognized his name :-) Yes, Blaziken, this thread was once about buffing Scouts toward a state of balance. Now it is a loosely veiled, evil conspiracy thread! Our goal is Scout Supremacy, and we intend to reach that goal through ... proposing Scout nerfs. The "how" remains unclear, but we're awfully determined. Let's take off strafing. Its not strafing that is the problem so much as lack of inertia or any real physics. As to your original question: This thread was originally started as the Scout Registry shortly after official release when scouts were under performing so greatly that approximately 5% of the population were scouts. This of course when SP was at a much greater premium. The intention was to document scout disparities and to discuss problems and issues regarding builds as they came. Unfortunately we were told that changes were coming, month after month, to the point where the Registry as it has been started simply shut down. That is until the delay between 1.7 and 1.8 during which we started to go off topic more and bond as a community, which earned us a lock, only to be saved and moved from GD to the Locker Room. Now it is essentially a social hub for all the original scouts and anyone else who wishes to stop by and talk Dust, balancing, or any other number of off topic things.
We should update the OP with links to posts like this so people stop asking this question lol
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ
I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
8027
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Posted - 2015.02.25 03:10:00 -
[29817] - Quote
I have said it better previously, maybe I should look for one of the other posts.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6807
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Posted - 2015.02.25 03:51:00 -
[29818] - Quote
XxBlazikenxX wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I would agree to an extent.
It was probably more evident pre EWAR circles and Medium EWAR changes, but now that EWAR itself has been diminished, its lack of any bonus to it is less of an issue.
Knifing and hacking I think are significant enough.
The cloak changes really hurt us as much as anything, as we were more dependent on it because of EWAR.
We'll see how it handles when backpedal speed is reduced.
Amarr is the one that really needs help as it has no role. True, perhaps Amarrian needs to get rid of its EWAR bonus and increase its stamina bonuses.
Increased Stamina will not really help. Only because stamina caps out in usefulness, unless we make changes to how stamina affects gameplay.
1. Stamina should be the first "Health Bar" to take damage from falling
2. Change how much Stamina is depleted from jumpsGǪ Currently it takes about 1/3 of you bar to jump (regardless of how high the stat is). This was implemented to counter hipity hopy hit detection issues or something like that, so changes to this would need to be carefully implemented.
3. Melee stamina drain changesGǪ could be problematicGǪ don't know.
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XxBlazikenxX
Y.A.M.A.H
320
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Posted - 2015.02.25 03:52:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I would agree to an extent.
It was probably more evident pre EWAR circles and Medium EWAR changes, but now that EWAR itself has been diminished, its lack of any bonus to it is less of an issue.
Knifing and hacking I think are significant enough.
The cloak changes really hurt us as much as anything, as we were more dependent on it because of EWAR.
We'll see how it handles when backpedal speed is reduced.
Amarr is the one that really needs help as it has no role. True, perhaps Amarrian needs to get rid of its EWAR bonus and increase its stamina bonuses. Increased Stamina will not really help. Only because stamina caps out in usefulness, unless we make changes to how stamina affects gameplay. 1. Stamina should be the first "Health Bar" to take damage from falling 2. Change how much Stamina is depleted from jumpsGǪ Currently it takes about 1/3 of you bar to jump (regardless of how high the stat is). This was implemented to counter hipity hopy hit detection issues or something like that, so changes to this would need to be carefully implemented. 3. Melee stamina drain changesGǪ could be problematicGǪ don't know.
The extra stamina might make the Amarrian Scout a good wandering suit for going from place to place.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
6807
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Posted - 2015.02.25 03:57:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Llast 326 wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:One Eyed King wrote:I would agree to an extent.
It was probably more evident pre EWAR circles and Medium EWAR changes, but now that EWAR itself has been diminished, its lack of any bonus to it is less of an issue.
Knifing and hacking I think are significant enough.
The cloak changes really hurt us as much as anything, as we were more dependent on it because of EWAR.
We'll see how it handles when backpedal speed is reduced.
Amarr is the one that really needs help as it has no role. True, perhaps Amarrian needs to get rid of its EWAR bonus and increase its stamina bonuses. Increased Stamina will not really help. Only because stamina caps out in usefulness, unless we make changes to how stamina affects gameplay. 1. Stamina should be the first "Health Bar" to take damage from falling 2. Change how much Stamina is depleted from jumpsGǪ Currently it takes about 1/3 of you bar to jump (regardless of how high the stat is). This was implemented to counter hipity hopy hit detection issues or something like that, so changes to this would need to be carefully implemented. 3. Melee stamina drain changesGǪ could be problematicGǪ don't know. The extra stamina might make the Amarrian Scout a good wandering suit for going from place to place.
Aye
It does excellent with that aspect now though, so either changes to how existing stats work or a whole new bonus may be in order.
Another option would be to increase Range Extenders effectiveness to make the precision bonus cover a useful area, and/or one of the stamina changes.
Personally I think range extenders are almost useless in their current form, and Fall damage needs a looking at so I lean towards those changes.
As a note I run all four scout suitsGǪ Amarr is in the worst place, but is not as bad off as the Minja once was. It is a closer fix to balance at this point in the game than we have ever seen. Or so I see it.
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