Loyalty Rank Observations:

Currently about 20% into Rank 9 (106282 points to next rank). Observed over the past matches:

* Solo. Ambush. 4 wins, 1 loss.
* Averaged 700-800 WP per match.
* Earned roughly 5 Loyalty Rank Points per match.

Not accounting for LRP awarded from other sources, I will need to play Ambush for over 5,000 hours before progressing to Rank 10 (5314.1 hours assuming 5 LRP at 15 min per match.

Loyalty Rank Observations:

Currently about 20% into Rank 9 (106282 points to next rank). Observed over the past five matches:

* Solo. Ambush. 4 wins, 1 loss.
* Averaged 700-800 WP per match.
* Earned roughly 5 Loyalty Rank Points per match.

Not accounting for LRP awarded from other sources, I will need to play Ambush for over 5,000 hours before progressing to Rank 10 (5314.1 hours at 5 LRP earned every 15 minutes).


Edit: Will test other playmodes both with and without squad ...

Did the glitched isk payouts get fixed?
Did the pre-1.9 balancing hot fix get redeployed?
How are the new maps?
Is the AS spam really that bad?
Are gallogis a serious thing now?
And has anyone tested my precious ShotFun yet? (anyone like the new name?)

I just got back from Cali, and am looking forward to playing again.

Did the glitched isk payouts get fixed?
Did the pre-1.9 balancing hot fix get redeployed?
How are the new maps?
Is the AS spam really that bad?
Are gallogis a serious thing now?
And has anyone tested my precious ShotFun yet? (anyone like the new name?)

I just got back from Cali, and am looking forward to playing again.

Edit: Will test other playmodes both with and without squad ...

Update:

Solo'd a Domination. We win!
2190 WP (second place had 1500).
9 LR points.

Next, will test for a potential "in-squad" multiplier.

SP optimization. If G. Caldari is still around, this is why it is important to get dampening to 5 ASAP

Still here and reading like scouting is my new job!

Just logged in, and find that I didn't get anything from the sidearm event, SP-wise.

Also, Im rank 3 . LOL no arum spent...

YES!!! I rank higher than Gav in something!

WHY IS MINE SO LOW!

Dear players,

I need to write this to explain the 1.9 Weekly Skill Cap implementation and its intent and design.

When we first discussed the possibility of stacking boosters and raising the skill cap, with the CPM, I honestly thought that the skill cap was a fixed number that was achieved faster by equipping boosters. Yeah, I just never did the math on the EOM screen, donGÇÿt think I ever capped out anyway, more than half of my 35 million SP is probably passive booster SP.

Therefore, the 750k active skillcap number came directly from me, from thinking GÇPWe need to triple it due to the 3 boosters, and we will even throw in an additional amount to make it an even 750k. It will be generous and cool.GÇ£

At that time, we were very aware that we should not devalue veteran SP by giving SP away too freely, but also still allow new players to catch up and catch a break. The scenario was thus, the veterans can throw in a single booster and ease into getting the 750k, not in a rush but during the whole week, instead of stressing out to cap. The new players or those that needed SP for an expensive skill could boost out to do so, but it wouldnGÇÿt be sustainable and up to the hard cap of 750k.

On top of that we added the ability to just do single purchases with instant boosters, just to make it less of a burden to buy a big chunk of booster time, instead of just GÇPwhen you need it and want itGÇ£. This allows for flexibility, but only a handful would ever do both, and so what, there is a hard cap (again, in my mind).

This is discussed with the CPM and devs and everything was awesome. The 750k number goes into the Patch Notes, and soon I see concerns from the community on the forums and feedback about some crazy 3 million per week numbers. And I thought, GÇPok, they are totally misunderstanding, its a hard capGÇ£, IGÇÿll explain it later in a sticky.

Then I am, by an off chance and just before we hit final QA, made aware by the dev team how it is really going to pan out. Players will be able to 3X stack, but as was explained to me, both the instant and active booster SP would not be counted towards the cap. After double and triple checking and running hellish spreadsheets with average potential SP scenarios and combinations of boosters, it was confirmed. It was too late to mess with the code, but there was no way I wanted, 750+2250(3xOmegas) + 2250 (3x Instant for all battles) + Passive, a total of 6M SP per week. That just wasnGÇÿt our intent at any stage of this feature.

The intent was, as it happens, much closer to to the old cap of 180k+540 (3xOmegas) + 540(3xInstant for all battles)+Passive ~ 1.8 million or so, very close to the previous weekly max SP gain times 3.

That sounded exactly what we wanted so we simply moved the skill cap back to 180k and pulled the 750k number out of the patch notes, very last minute. I was absolutely sure that this is what players truly expected, and I think most players agree that 6M SP per week is completely untenable. GÇPBut, noone is going to do that in the long termGÇ£, I hear you say, it costs too much, and will burn those extremely few that do so, out. So I didnGÇÿt worry at all about explaining this, if the need arose.

Until I had the 500 messages from the CPM, blinking furiously on Skype tonight, after football practice and just about to hit the hay.The gist of the messages was GÇPEveryone, and the CPM included, thinks players should be able to get 2.5 million active SP if they triple stack Omegas, but they probably assumed Instant Boosters would not be additive on top."

Well, it can be hard to admit mistakes, and learn from them, but I am willing to try and do both.

Therefore, I propose that to keep faith to those that thought the intent was 750k multiplied by stacked boosters, to immediately raise it to 750k during downtime tomorrow. The potential SP gain will be enormous, but we can monitor the situation for a single month, just how fast players are capping and gaining SP and whether it is a real problem.

Those that bought and stacked 3 boosters today, will not lose anything and be able to do what was communicated, even though that was absolutely not our intent. If you have already capped out today, please take a break and start again after DT tomorrow.

However, we then reserve our right to reduce the Skill Cap after 30 days if deemed necessary, with a weeks notice or so, so players will understand fully how the Skill Cap will affect their purchasing decisions.

I hope that this settles this issue, and lets you get back to playing the vastly improved DUST 514 of Uprising 1.9!

Sincerely
CCP Rattati

My alt on the same account as my main is lvl 10 and 3/4 and has 1,500 wp, 0 kills and 1 lose.

My main is just barely 11 with like 0% and has millions of warpoints, 70m skillpoints and millions of warpoints, 1,000's of wins. yet he is only 1/4 above my alt with nothing but the AUR purchases because its on my same account.

So it seems to me my mains rank is calculated by 10 3/4th is because of AUR purchases and the rest that bumped me up to 11 is my actaul in-game stats.

Well that is quite disconcerting.

I wonder if FW would be any different as well, or PC.

Loyalty Rank Observations:

Currently about 20% into Rank 9 (106282 points to next rank). Observed over the past five matches:

* Solo. Ambush. 4 wins, 1 loss.
* Averaged 700-800 WP per match.
* Earned roughly 5 Loyalty Rank Points per match.

Not accounting for LRP awarded from other sources, I will need to play Ambush for over 5,000 hours before progressing to Rank 10 (5314.1 hours at 5 LRP earned every 15 minutes).


Edit: Will test other playmodes both with and without squad ...

Decided to ask Rattati directly rather than confront the CPM's about it.

Post here. Used Shotty's post for reference. Knowing Rattati, he will read the rest of the posts and see his testing and get back to me.

Nice!

For ease of reference, I've updated my earlier post with results from later matches.

PS: I'm not Shotty. See downstairs for details.

@ Ghost

Somewhat on topic, I'm opposed to associating Forum Activity with Loyalty for fear that doing so would afford a disproportionate advantage to English-speakers:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2439691#post2439691

@ Ghost

Somewhat on topic, I'm opposed to associating Forum Activity with Loyalty for fear that doing so would afford a disproportionate advantage to English-speakers:

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2439691#post2439691

I honestly thought you were shotties alt's alt, since Nos Nothi got banned.

I saw Nothus and assumed

It's still the best measurement of community participation that I can think of.

We could get rid of it and instead add a large LP modifier to community events though. That could work.

12 more minutes and then I am off to the the race to damp 5.