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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.09.03 19:51:00 -
[21421] - Quote
Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Caveat: I'm not a sniper, and I freely defer to those who are. Observation: If I'm reading this proposal correctly, a body shot from Charge SR will OHK the majority of my proto fits. Thoughts: I don't mind getting OHK'd by a Shotgun. The shotgunner has to be sufficiently fast to catch me, sufficiently dampened to beat my scans, sufficiently sneaky to avoid detection by me or my allies. When I do get OHK'd by Shotgun, I do not rage. In my mind, (1) skill and loadout requirements were met by the shotgunner and (2) the shotgunner successfully managed all risk factors and (3) I screwed up. The same thinking goes for getting OHK'd by Plasma Cannons and Nova Knives. It happens. It's often funny. There's no question that both skill and risk are involved. I can't imagine having the same mentality about a sniper placing an OHK body shot from 300+ meters, camped safely atop a spire or deep in redline. Question: I totally understand and agree that increasing the SR's punch is necessary to keep pace with HP creep. But is it not a better idea to increase the headshot multiplier only, such that there is no question as to the skill requirement of the shooter?
Quote:
"Whoa! Sniped in the face! Lucky shot!"
vs
:: I has left the battle ::
Without changing the base damage several suits are still multiple magazine affairs for body shots only against a range of targets. That said though both base damage and headshot damage can be changed independently for example I could give the charge rifle a MUCH higher headshot damage if it means that it would still take 2 body shots for the more vulnerable targets. Going to crunch more numbers for the charge if that is going to be an issue for sure and probably go that route should be very doable to keep the desired headshot damage. However my initial pass stated it shouldn't been that much of a problem.
I have my tank fits when needed
388 eHP 17db dragonfly gal scout
453 eHP 17db adv gal scout
527 eHP 17db proto gal scout
I don't mind being a OHK when I am full ewar but when I am in my 17db TANK fittings I feel it should take more than 1 body shot tier vs tier even if it only leaves me with 1 HP.
Charge should be a OHK vs my 17db proto TANK fitting no matter what since it is a charge weapon and you have to suffer the SOUND (PLEASE REPLACE CPP)
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noob cavman
And the ButtPirates
1833
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Posted - 2014.09.03 19:51:00 -
[21422] - Quote
The definition of insane is apparently redoing somethin over and over again and expecting a different result....
for the last 2 hours I've been opening and closing the ps4 marketplace waiting for minecraft.
*dribbles a little bit*
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3731
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Posted - 2014.09.03 20:00:00 -
[21423] - Quote
voidfaction wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Caveat: I'm not a sniper, and I freely defer to those who are. Observation: If I'm reading this proposal correctly, a body shot from Charge SR will OHK the majority of my proto fits. Thoughts: I don't mind getting OHK'd by a Shotgun. The shotgunner has to be sufficiently fast to catch me, sufficiently dampened to beat my scans, sufficiently sneaky to avoid detection by me or my allies. When I do get OHK'd by Shotgun, I do not rage. In my mind, (1) skill and loadout requirements were met by the shotgunner and (2) the shotgunner successfully managed all risk factors and (3) I screwed up. The same thinking goes for getting OHK'd by Plasma Cannons and Nova Knives. It happens. It's often funny. There's no question that both skill and risk are involved. I can't imagine having the same mentality about a sniper placing an OHK body shot from 300+ meters, camped safely atop a spire or deep in redline. Question: I totally understand and agree that increasing the SR's punch is necessary to keep pace with HP creep. But is it not a better idea to increase the headshot multiplier only, such that there is no question as to the skill requirement of the shooter?
Quote:
"Whoa! Sniped in the face! Lucky shot!"
vs
:: I has left the battle ::
Without changing the base damage several suits are still multiple magazine affairs for body shots only against a range of targets. That said though both base damage and headshot damage can be changed independently for example I could give the charge rifle a MUCH higher headshot damage if it means that it would still take 2 body shots for the more vulnerable targets. Going to crunch more numbers for the charge if that is going to be an issue for sure and probably go that route should be very doable to keep the desired headshot damage. However my initial pass stated it shouldn't been that much of a problem. I have my tank fits when needed 388 eHP 17db dragonfly gal scout 453 eHP 17db adv gal scout 527 eHP 17db proto gal scout I don't mind being a OHK when I am full ewar but when I am in my 17db TANK fittings I feel it should take more than 1 body shot tier vs tier even if it only leaves me with 1 HP. Charge should be a OHK vs my 17db proto TANK fitting no matter what since it is a charge weapon and you have to suffer the SOUND (PLEASE REPLACE CPP)
I have a similar perspective.
I have only been OHKd a handful of times since 1.8 thanks to the cloak. It doesn't really bother me.
The only thing that really bothers me is that the directional indicator isn't very good a lot of times, and with a head shot doesn't give me an opportunity to dispatch the sniper. I just want more of a chance to find them.
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3453
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Posted - 2014.09.03 20:40:00 -
[21424] - Quote
Anybody know what happened at Bungie?
There's no more clans in existence.
Group's still there though.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Cass Caul
1087
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Posted - 2014.09.03 20:41:00 -
[21425] - Quote
I just like looking at the sniper rifle like this:
The Scout suit was under performing from 1.0 to 1.7
CCP's ideas were to nerf the suit to make up for giving it a bonus.
IWS championed the scout's cause by giving the suits a buff without having to take something else away.
Sniper Rifle has been underperforming from 1.0 to present
CCP's idea is to nerf the range of the weapon to make up for any bonus
IWS champion's CCP's ideas
I blame her for nova knife kills on tanks
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
4727
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Posted - 2014.09.03 20:43:00 -
[21426] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Anybody know what happened at Bungie?
There's no more clans in existence.
Group's still there though.
Someone must've told them their PvP was sh*t.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Master Smurf
Nos Nothi
600
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Posted - 2014.09.03 20:44:00 -
[21427] - Quote
Spademan wrote:
The colours really work for the Minmatar. Looks pretty swaggin'
I guess with this and the HP buff I may have to get my Lv4 to Proto
Just when I was out...... aaaahhhhhhhhh
"Shine bright like a diamond"
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Cass Caul
1087
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Posted - 2014.09.03 20:44:00 -
[21428] - Quote
voidfaction wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Caveat: I'm not a sniper, and I freely defer to those who are. Observation: If I'm reading this proposal correctly, a body shot from Charge SR will OHK the majority of my proto fits. Thoughts: I don't mind getting OHK'd by a Shotgun. The shotgunner has to be sufficiently fast to catch me, sufficiently dampened to beat my scans, sufficiently sneaky to avoid detection by me or my allies. When I do get OHK'd by Shotgun, I do not rage. In my mind, (1) skill and loadout requirements were met by the shotgunner and (2) the shotgunner successfully managed all risk factors and (3) I screwed up. The same thinking goes for getting OHK'd by Plasma Cannons and Nova Knives. It happens. It's often funny. There's no question that both skill and risk are involved. I can't imagine having the same mentality about a sniper placing an OHK body shot from 300+ meters, camped safely atop a spire or deep in redline. Question: I totally understand and agree that increasing the SR's punch is necessary to keep pace with HP creep. But is it not a better idea to increase the headshot multiplier only, such that there is no question as to the skill requirement of the shooter?
Quote:
"Whoa! Sniped in the face! Lucky shot!"
vs
:: I has left the battle ::
Without changing the base damage several suits are still multiple magazine affairs for body shots only against a range of targets. That said though both base damage and headshot damage can be changed independently for example I could give the charge rifle a MUCH higher headshot damage if it means that it would still take 2 body shots for the more vulnerable targets. Going to crunch more numbers for the charge if that is going to be an issue for sure and probably go that route should be very doable to keep the desired headshot damage. However my initial pass stated it shouldn't been that much of a problem. I have my tank fits when needed 388 eHP 17db dragonfly gal scout 453 eHP 17db adv gal scout 527 eHP 17db proto gal scout I don't mind being a OHK when I am full ewar but when I am in my 17db TANK fittings I feel it should take more than 1 body shot tier vs tier even if it only leaves me with 1 HP. Charge should be a OHK vs my 17db proto TANK fitting no matter what since it is a charge weapon and you have to suffer the SOUND (PLEASE REPLACE CPP)
pricecheck!
do you actually mean 527 eHP against rails
or 527 total HP
because at 527 the only way for a sniper to kill you in a body shot is a Thale's + 3 damage mods + commando bonus.
take 1 of those bonuses away and you walk away
I blame her for nova knife kills on tanks
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voidfaction
Nos Nothi
505
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Posted - 2014.09.03 20:59:00 -
[21429] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:voidfaction wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Caveat: I'm not a sniper, and I freely defer to those who are. Observation: If I'm reading this proposal correctly, a body shot from Charge SR will OHK the majority of my proto fits. Thoughts: I don't mind getting OHK'd by a Shotgun. The shotgunner has to be sufficiently fast to catch me, sufficiently dampened to beat my scans, sufficiently sneaky to avoid detection by me or my allies. When I do get OHK'd by Shotgun, I do not rage. In my mind, (1) skill and loadout requirements were met by the shotgunner and (2) the shotgunner successfully managed all risk factors and (3) I screwed up. The same thinking goes for getting OHK'd by Plasma Cannons and Nova Knives. It happens. It's often funny. There's no question that both skill and risk are involved. I can't imagine having the same mentality about a sniper placing an OHK body shot from 300+ meters, camped safely atop a spire or deep in redline. Question: I totally understand and agree that increasing the SR's punch is necessary to keep pace with HP creep. But is it not a better idea to increase the headshot multiplier only, such that there is no question as to the skill requirement of the shooter?
Quote:
"Whoa! Sniped in the face! Lucky shot!"
vs
:: I has left the battle ::
Without changing the base damage several suits are still multiple magazine affairs for body shots only against a range of targets. That said though both base damage and headshot damage can be changed independently for example I could give the charge rifle a MUCH higher headshot damage if it means that it would still take 2 body shots for the more vulnerable targets. Going to crunch more numbers for the charge if that is going to be an issue for sure and probably go that route should be very doable to keep the desired headshot damage. However my initial pass stated it shouldn't been that much of a problem. I have my tank fits when needed 388 eHP 17db dragonfly gal scout 453 eHP 17db adv gal scout 527 eHP 17db proto gal scout I don't mind being a OHK when I am full ewar but when I am in my 17db TANK fittings I feel it should take more than 1 body shot tier vs tier even if it only leaves me with 1 HP. Charge should be a OHK vs my 17db proto TANK fitting no matter what since it is a charge weapon and you have to suffer the SOUND (PLEASE REPLACE CPP) pricecheck! do you actually mean 527 eHP against rails or 527 total HP because at 527 the only way for a sniper to kill you in a body shot is a Thale's + 3 damage mods + commando bonus. take 1 of those bonuses away and you walk away
all HP is total
I'm saying the sniper rifle dmg can be buffed because my std tank scout vs a std sniper now can take more than 1 body shot but also saying I should be near death when i'm shot.
charge should kill me in 1 shot period. buff if needed
I look at things tier vs tier
std fitting vs std fitting with std weapons.
adv etc
proto etc |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3731
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Posted - 2014.09.03 21:00:00 -
[21430] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Spademan wrote:Anybody know what happened at Bungie?
There's no more clans in existence.
Group's still there though. Someone must've told them their PvP was sh*t.
Maybe it is some kind of maintenance given how glitchy their clan tags were in Beta?
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
16339
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Posted - 2014.09.03 21:16:00 -
[21431] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:voidfaction wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Caveat: I'm not a sniper, and I freely defer to those who are. Observation: If I'm reading this proposal correctly, a body shot from Charge SR will OHK the majority of my proto fits. Thoughts: I don't mind getting OHK'd by a Shotgun. The shotgunner has to be sufficiently fast to catch me, sufficiently dampened to beat my scans, sufficiently sneaky to avoid detection by me or my allies. When I do get OHK'd by Shotgun, I do not rage. In my mind, (1) skill and loadout requirements were met by the shotgunner and (2) the shotgunner successfully managed all risk factors and (3) I screwed up. The same thinking goes for getting OHK'd by Plasma Cannons and Nova Knives. It happens. It's often funny. There's no question that both skill and risk are involved. I can't imagine having the same mentality about a sniper placing an OHK body shot from 300+ meters, camped safely atop a spire or deep in redline. Question: I totally understand and agree that increasing the SR's punch is necessary to keep pace with HP creep. But is it not a better idea to increase the headshot multiplier only, such that there is no question as to the skill requirement of the shooter?
Quote:
"Whoa! Sniped in the face! Lucky shot!"
vs
:: I has left the battle ::
Without changing the base damage several suits are still multiple magazine affairs for body shots only against a range of targets. That said though both base damage and headshot damage can be changed independently for example I could give the charge rifle a MUCH higher headshot damage if it means that it would still take 2 body shots for the more vulnerable targets. Going to crunch more numbers for the charge if that is going to be an issue for sure and probably go that route should be very doable to keep the desired headshot damage. However my initial pass stated it shouldn't been that much of a problem. I have my tank fits when needed 388 eHP 17db dragonfly gal scout 453 eHP 17db adv gal scout 527 eHP 17db proto gal scout I don't mind being a OHK when I am full ewar but when I am in my 17db TANK fittings I feel it should take more than 1 body shot tier vs tier even if it only leaves me with 1 HP. Charge should be a OHK vs my 17db proto TANK fitting no matter what since it is a charge weapon and you have to suffer the SOUND (PLEASE REPLACE CPP) pricecheck! do you actually mean 527 eHP against rails or 527 total HP because at 527 the only way for a sniper to kill you in a body shot is a Thale's + 3 damage mods + commando bonus. take 1 of those bonuses away and you walk away
all at max skills mind you.
Anyways based on some expanded feedback
Lower Charge and Thales base damage
Upped the headshot multiplier to keep nearly the same headshot damage profile.
CPM 1
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior
\\= Advanced Large Blaster =// Unlocked
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J0LLY R0G3R
And the ButtPirates
1214
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Posted - 2014.09.03 21:16:00 -
[21432] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Anybody know what happened at Bungie?
There's no more clans in existence.
Group's still there though.
They open them back up for launch, they did the same thing after the alpha. Clans were removed then opened back up for the beta. Guess that's whats goin on.
@noob- they ran into some last minute issues apparently. workin to fix em.
BPO's ARE BACK!
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noob cavman
And the ButtPirates
1835
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Posted - 2014.09.03 21:18:00 -
[21433] - Quote
J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Spademan wrote:Anybody know what happened at Bungie?
There's no more clans in existence.
Group's still there though. They open them back up for launch, they did the same thing after the alpha. Clans were removed then opened back up for the beta. Guess that's whats goin on. @noob- they ran into some last minute issues apparently. workin to fix em.
God damn it.
I want to be a caveman!
Ccp: LEGION
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
4310
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Posted - 2014.09.03 21:37:00 -
[21434] - Quote
Back
and reading the threadGǪ. only 289 notificationsGǪ
Disappointed like a Kaiser?
KRRROOOOOOM
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3453
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Posted - 2014.09.03 21:38:00 -
[21435] - Quote
There you go, I brought you up to a nice even 290.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
4310
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Posted - 2014.09.03 21:42:00 -
[21436] - Quote
Spademan wrote:There you go, I brought you up to a nice even 290.
You even had IWS in here (with Mollerz at the same time) and it did not break 300 
KRRROOOOOOM
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3456
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Posted - 2014.09.03 21:49:00 -
[21437] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:Spademan wrote:There you go, I brought you up to a nice even 290. You even had IWS in here (with Mollerz at the same time) and it did not break 300
Well I could've tried breaking my octopost record it that would've helped...but I got some funny looks when I got that.
Particularly from One Eye.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
4315
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Posted - 2014.09.03 22:11:00 -
[21438] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Spademan wrote:There you go, I brought you up to a nice even 290. You even had IWS in here (with Mollerz at the same time) and it did not break 300 Well I could've tried breaking my octopost record it that would've helped...but I got some funny looks when I got that. Particularly from One Eye.
OctotpostGǪ. a Spade Bond Film 
KRRROOOOOOM
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
3732
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Posted - 2014.09.03 22:12:00 -
[21439] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Spademan wrote:There you go, I brought you up to a nice even 290. You even had IWS in here (with Mollerz at the same time) and it did not break 300 Well I could've tried breaking my octopost record it that would've helped...but I got some funny looks when I got that. Particularly from One Eye.
Yes.
Being an Octoposter sounds a lot better than being a Novemposter. That just sounds goofy. Had you made it to Decaposter though...
You can always tell a Millford Minja
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3460
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Posted - 2014.09.03 22:19:00 -
[21440] - Quote
One Eyed King wrote:Spademan wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Spademan wrote:There you go, I brought you up to a nice even 290. You even had IWS in here (with Mollerz at the same time) and it did not break 300 Well I could've tried breaking my octopost record it that would've helped...but I got some funny looks when I got that. Particularly from One Eye. Yes. Being an Octoposter sounds a lot better than being a Novemposter. That just sounds goofy. Had you made it to Decaposter though...
There's no way I'd stop with nine, not when the prefix "Deca" is so close. 10 minimum.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3464
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Posted - 2014.09.03 22:23:00 -
[21441] - Quote
Llast 326 wrote:Spademan wrote:Llast 326 wrote:Spademan wrote:There you go, I brought you up to a nice even 290. You even had IWS in here (with Mollerz at the same time) and it did not break 300 Well I could've tried breaking my octopost record it that would've helped...but I got some funny looks when I got that. Particularly from One Eye. OctotpostGǪ. a Spade Bond Film
"The name's Spade. Joss Spade."
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3466
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Posted - 2014.09.03 23:05:00 -
[21442] - Quote
Scout Registry wrote:Edit:
Perhaps it's the ending "i" or the syllable count, but when I see our name I think "Dothraki" or "Githyanki".
^ Nerd, Proficiency V
So in my routine lurk in the thread to make sure there's nothing let out of the timeline I discovered this gem.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
4730
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Posted - 2014.09.03 23:06:00 -
[21443] - Quote
Spademan wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Edit:
Perhaps it's the ending "i" or the syllable count, but when I see our name I think "Dothraki" or "Githyanki".
^ Nerd, Proficiency V So in my routine lurk in the thread to make sure there's nothing let out of the timeline I discovered this gem.
Shhhh!
You'll wake the nerds!
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Spademan
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
3471
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Posted - 2014.09.03 23:09:00 -
[21444] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Spademan wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Edit:
Perhaps it's the ending "i" or the syllable count, but when I see our name I think "Dothraki" or "Githyanki".
^ Nerd, Proficiency V So in my routine lurk in the thread to make sure there's nothing let out of the timeline I discovered this gem. Shhhh! You'll wake the nerds!
Please, I'm a level 17 Bullywug Brawler.
I can take 'em.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
4316
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Posted - 2014.09.03 23:16:00 -
[21445] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Spademan wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Edit:
Perhaps it's the ending "i" or the syllable count, but when I see our name I think "Dothraki" or "Githyanki".
^ Nerd, Proficiency V So in my routine lurk in the thread to make sure there's nothing let out of the timeline I discovered this gem. Shhhh! You'll wake the nerds!
We never sleep
we watch
we wait
we occasional have nosebleeds
You don't even want to see my bookshelvesGǪ boxed setsGǪ endless bags of diceGǪ
not to mention individually crafted miniatures specific to characters for use on battle mapsGǪ
Quote: Oh no nosebleed incoming
KRRROOOOOOM
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Cass Caul
1089
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Posted - 2014.09.03 23:17:00 -
[21446] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Spademan wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Edit:
Perhaps it's the ending "i" or the syllable count, but when I see our name I think "Dothraki" or "Githyanki".
^ Nerd, Proficiency V So in my routine lurk in the thread to make sure there's nothing let out of the timeline I discovered this gem. Shhhh! You'll wake the nerds!
I was a closeted nerd until I was 19. Since I came out, I bet with just the things I've done I can win a nerd-off against anyone.
I blame her for nova knife kills on tanks
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
4316
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Posted - 2014.09.03 23:20:00 -
[21447] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Spademan wrote:Scout Registry wrote:Edit:
Perhaps it's the ending "i" or the syllable count, but when I see our name I think "Dothraki" or "Githyanki".
^ Nerd, Proficiency V So in my routine lurk in the thread to make sure there's nothing let out of the timeline I discovered this gem. Shhhh! You'll wake the nerds! I was a closeted nerd until I was 19. Since I came out, I bet with just the things I've done I can win a nerd-off against anyone.
A Nerd Off on the internet is a dangerous thing
KRRROOOOOOM
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Cass Caul
1090
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Posted - 2014.09.03 23:24:00 -
[21448] - Quote
True. I don't know many physical things, other than dice. I have lots of dice. Enough to introduce an entire group into any game currently existing... so long as someone doesn't make a die-pool system out of d12s.
I blame her for nova knife kills on tanks
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2247
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Posted - 2014.09.03 23:25:00 -
[21449] - Quote
I don't even know what you guys talk about anymore lol
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
FA's Shotgunning T-Dome Champ
Give the Minja active dampening!--By Bor
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
4316
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Posted - 2014.09.03 23:27:00 -
[21450] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:True. I don't know many physical things, other than dice. I have lots of dice. Enough to introduce an entire group into any game currently existing... so long as someone doesn't make a die-pool system out of d12s.
I can front you the d12's 
I believe that was second edition Shadowrun that accumulated all thoseGǪ or maybe Earthdawn 
KRRROOOOOOM
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