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Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1686	Posted - 2014.07.15 01:58:00 - [17671] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Soooo many people raging already about the proposed changes. None of them have looked at the data or thought about this. SCOUTS! Go into the forums and show them why these changes are necessary. People are willing to listen if you explain it! Help me out a bit, I got my hands full over here. Posted some context for it, hopefully showing the reasoning behind the changes will assist. Let me know if I've got anything wrong. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2260554#post2260554 Knowledge is power
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 755	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:00:00 - [17672] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: So why are Gallente getting precision? Can someone explain to me the thinking here? What will its effects be? The gal was too difficult to scan, and the cals scans to compensate was screwing over Amarr and min. So the lessened it and shared it with Cal. But giving cal damps and range and gal just damps is unfair. Heading over to Destiny Beta and a few others Hit me up for Skype and PSN
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1686	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:02:00 - [17673] - Quote Bayeth Mal wrote: Cat Merc wrote: So why are Gallente getting precision? Can someone explain to me the thinking here? What will its effects be? The gal was too difficult to scan, and the cals scans to compensate was screwing over Amarr and min. So the lessened it and shared it with Cal. But giving cal damps and range and gal just damps is unfair. Doesn't the Gal get damps and precision? Knowledge is power
Bayeth Mal OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 755	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:02:00 - [17674] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Soooo many people raging already about the proposed changes. None of them have looked at the data or thought about this. SCOUTS! Go into the forums and show them why these changes are necessary. People are willing to listen if you explain it! Help me out a bit, I got my hands full over here. You can't expect people to read it before raging. You have to have an opinion within 1 second or nobody will listen to you. Impotent rage is best rage. Heading over to Destiny Beta and a few others Hit me up for Skype and PSN
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 2020	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:15:00 - [17675] - Quote Smashes open door and stumbles in "Hi Guys! I MADE it! I was so far away... I thought I'd never get here...." "Who are these new fucks coming in without saying hi, figuring out what we are talking about or asking what we think?" Punches some dork just to see if he's one of us.... he complains. -> Guess not. Dang... I have an obsessive compulsion to read every thread of this post... thanks for the easter eggs guys... Bayeth, Mollerz, Spade. I got tired of using my Gal/Cal pistol suits upon my return after my month long Dead-Space, Alpha Protocol, D&D hiatus.... so I'm rolling around in a Min M-1 light frame: 2 CPX damps 1 CPX precision 1 ENH shield 1 basic SCP 1 ZN-28 No EQs No grenade KDR = sucktastic Fun = back! Need to level up knives. Good knifer feedback the last few pages, thanks guys. I think this feedback was for some other chump but IDGAF, thanks!! Double posting like a Kaiser.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5965	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:32:00 - [17676] - Quote I just realized that fucks isn't censored. Guess how many fucks I give? How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout PSN: EVL_Elgost105
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1350	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:32:00 - [17677] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Soooo many people raging already about the proposed changes. None of them have looked at the data or thought about this. SCOUTS! Go into the forums and show them why these changes are necessary. People are willing to listen if you explain it! Help me out a bit, I got my hands full over here. Hope my posts helped you out Im actually liking these changes, but could someone tell me definitively whats happening with the cloak damp bonus? If its on the spreadsheet i can't find it as its a little difficult for me to understand. "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1690	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:36:00 - [17678] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: I just realized that fucks isn't censored. Guess how many fucks I give? Is it three? Knowledge is power
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1690	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:39:00 - [17679] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Soooo many people raging already about the proposed changes. None of them have looked at the data or thought about this. SCOUTS! Go into the forums and show them why these changes are necessary. People are willing to listen if you explain it! Help me out a bit, I got my hands full over here. Hope my posts helped you out Im actually liking these changes, but could someone tell me definitively whats happening with the cloak damp bonus? If its on the spreadsheet i can't find it as its a little difficult for me to understand. Stays at 10% at Proto (factored into the calculations, 2 x damps and cloak or 3 x damps will get you below the precision of any scout), with Rattati considering making it a blanket bonus across all cloak tiers. Which would be my preference. Otherwise passive invisibility is only available to proto scouts with proto cloaks fitting proto damps. Knowledge is power
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1351	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:41:00 - [17680] - Quote Brokerib wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Soooo many people raging already about the proposed changes. None of them have looked at the data or thought about this. SCOUTS! Go into the forums and show them why these changes are necessary. People are willing to listen if you explain it! Help me out a bit, I got my hands full over here. Hope my posts helped you out Im actually liking these changes, but could someone tell me definitively whats happening with the cloak damp bonus? If its on the spreadsheet i can't find it as its a little difficult for me to understand. Stays at 10% at Proto (factored into the calculations, 2 x damps and cloak or 3 x damps will get you below the precision of any scout), with Rattati considering making it a blanket bonus across all cloak tiers. Which would be my preference. Otherwise passive invisibility is only available to proto scouts with proto cloaks fitting proto damps. 10% at all tiers is not only necessary for a min scout, but helps newer players as well. if we can sell it, that'd be awesome Also to what extent will running one damp be viable (with 10% cloak bonus assumed)? if we could get a new scan chart going telling me what i can/can't avoid, id really like that. I could do the math, but not feeling it right now "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand

mollerz 3955	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:42:00 - [17681] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Smashes open door and stumbles in "Hi Guys! I MADE it! I was so far away... I thought I'd never get here...." "Who are these new fucks coming in without saying hi, figuring out what we are talking about or asking what we think?" Punches some dork just to see if he's one of us.... he complains. -> Guess not. ----Hey Monk! Wades through the crowd pushing people to the floor. Back here, we have the reserved tables! grabs a few red jars out of the cooler... Dang... I have an obsessive compulsion to read every thread of this post... thanks for the easter eggs guys... Bayeth, Mollerz, Spade. I got tired of using my Gal/Cal pistol suits upon my return after my month long Dead-Space, Alpha Protocol, D&D hiatus.... so I'm rolling around in a Min M-1 light frame: 2 CPX damps 1 CPX precision 1 ENH shield 1 basic SCP 1 ZN-28 No EQs No grenade KDR = sucktastic Fun = back! Need to level up knives. Good knifer feedback the last few pages, thanks guys. I think this feedback was for some other chump but IDGAF, thanks!! nice.. nothing like an M-1 ***** slap to a proto heavy. it's the ultimate trophy kill. You're Welcome... see their you go, Appia!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1351	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:44:00 - [17682] - Quote mollerz wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: Smashes open door and stumbles in "Hi Guys! I MADE it! I was so far away... I thought I'd never get here...." "Who are these new fucks coming in without saying hi, figuring out what we are talking about or asking what we think?" Punches some dork just to see if he's one of us.... he complains. -> Guess not. ----Hey Monk! Wades through the crowd pushing people to the floor. Back here, we have the reserved tables! grabs a few red jars out of the cooler... Dang... I have an obsessive compulsion to read every thread of this post... thanks for the easter eggs guys... Bayeth, Mollerz, Spade. I got tired of using my Gal/Cal pistol suits upon my return after my month long Dead-Space, Alpha Protocol, D&D hiatus.... so I'm rolling around in a Min M-1 light frame: 2 CPX damps 1 CPX precision 1 ENH shield 1 basic SCP 1 ZN-28 No EQs No grenade KDR = sucktastic Fun = back! Need to level up knives. Good knifer feedback the last few pages, thanks guys. I think this feedback was for some other chump but IDGAF, thanks!! nice.. nothing like an M-1 ***** slap to a proto heavy. it's the ultimate trophy kill. 2x codebreakers or precisions 2x damps+ishnoks+basic SMG+basic clack is my training fit for knives Also, just a thought--should beating amarr passives with 2x complex damps require or not require a cloak (philosophical, not actual, it currently doesn't) "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 2585	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:50:00 - [17683] - Quote Looks like hibernation in the Basement did Monk some good. This is how a minja feels
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3432	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:50:00 - [17684] - Quote mollerz wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: Smashes open door and stumbles in "Hi Guys! I MADE it! I was so far away... I thought I'd never get here...." "Who are these new fucks coming in without saying hi, figuring out what we are talking about or asking what we think?" Punches some dork just to see if he's one of us.... he complains. -> Guess not. ----Hey Monk! Wades through the crowd pushing people to the floor. Back here, we have the reserved tables! grabs a few red jars out of the cooler... Dang... I have an obsessive compulsion to read every thread of this post... thanks for the easter eggs guys... Bayeth, Mollerz, Spade. I got tired of using my Gal/Cal pistol suits upon my return after my month long Dead-Space, Alpha Protocol, D&D hiatus.... so I'm rolling around in a Min M-1 light frame: 2 CPX damps 1 CPX precision 1 ENH shield 1 basic SCP 1 ZN-28 No EQs No grenade KDR = sucktastic Fun = back! Need to level up knives. Good knifer feedback the last few pages, thanks guys. I think this feedback was for some other chump but IDGAF, thanks!! nice.. nothing like an M-1 ***** slap to a proto heavy. it's the ultimate trophy kill. I like my fit: 1 basic shield, 1 basic sidearm damage mod Toxin AR, Ishukone Nova Knives, flux RE, Compact hive enhanced ferroscale, enhanced kincat Played with shotty, went 23/11 to his 23/5. My 11 deaths were cheaper than one of his And I got more WPs There was another proto gal, he got a crap ton of WPs, not many kills and I saved his ass from a shotgun scout by knifing the red dot Appia Vibbia for CPM1 Personal Theme Song
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1695	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:51:00 - [17685] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Brokerib wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Soooo many people raging already about the proposed changes. None of them have looked at the data or thought about this. SCOUTS! Go into the forums and show them why these changes are necessary. People are willing to listen if you explain it! Help me out a bit, I got my hands full over here. Hope my posts helped you out Im actually liking these changes, but could someone tell me definitively whats happening with the cloak damp bonus? If its on the spreadsheet i can't find it as its a little difficult for me to understand. Stays at 10% at Proto (factored into the calculations, 2 x damps and cloak or 3 x damps will get you below the precision of any scout), with Rattati considering making it a blanket bonus across all cloak tiers. Which would be my preference. Otherwise passive invisibility is only available to proto scouts with proto cloaks fitting proto damps. 10% at all tiers is not only necessary for a min scout, but helps newer players as well. if we can sell it, that'd be awesome Also to what extent will running one damp be viable (with 10% cloak bonus assumed)? if we could get a new scan chart going telling me what i can/can't avoid, id really like that. I could do the math, but not feeling it right now Haerr already beat you to it. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1In6VWqXQvmBHdQDjQ1w2iohez2xsIsqC9VpKz7Ae0pA/edit#gid=1802868516 Knowledge is power
Brokerib Lone Wolves Club 1695	Posted - 2014.07.15 02:54:00 - [17686] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: mollerz wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: Smashes open door and stumbles in "Hi Guys! I MADE it! I was so far away... I thought I'd never get here...." "Who are these new fucks coming in without saying hi, figuring out what we are talking about or asking what we think?" Punches some dork just to see if he's one of us.... he complains. -> Guess not. ----Hey Monk! Wades through the crowd pushing people to the floor. Back here, we have the reserved tables! grabs a few red jars out of the cooler... Dang... I have an obsessive compulsion to read every thread of this post... thanks for the easter eggs guys... Bayeth, Mollerz, Spade. I got tired of using my Gal/Cal pistol suits upon my return after my month long Dead-Space, Alpha Protocol, D&D hiatus.... so I'm rolling around in a Min M-1 light frame: 2 CPX damps 1 CPX precision 1 ENH shield 1 basic SCP 1 ZN-28 No EQs No grenade KDR = sucktastic Fun = back! Need to level up knives. Good knifer feedback the last few pages, thanks guys. I think this feedback was for some other chump but IDGAF, thanks!! nice.. nothing like an M-1 ***** slap to a proto heavy. it's the ultimate trophy kill. 2x codebreakers or precisions 2x damps+ishnoks+basic SMG+basic clack is my training fit for knives Also, just a thought--should beating amarr passives with 2x complex damps require or not require a cloak (philosophical, not actual, it currently doesn't) Min and Amarr will require a cloak, not the Gal or Cal. Hence why standardised reduction on cloaks would be very helpful :-P Knowledge is power
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1351	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:00:00 - [17687] - Quote EDIT: Im retarted....deleted "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1351	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:01:00 - [17688] - Quote Brokerib wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: mollerz wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: Smashes open door and stumbles in "Hi Guys! I MADE it! I was so far away... I thought I'd never get here...." "Who are these new fucks coming in without saying hi, figuring out what we are talking about or asking what we think?" Punches some dork just to see if he's one of us.... he complains. -> Guess not. ----Hey Monk! Wades through the crowd pushing people to the floor. Back here, we have the reserved tables! grabs a few red jars out of the cooler... Dang... I have an obsessive compulsion to read every thread of this post... thanks for the easter eggs guys... Bayeth, Mollerz, Spade. I got tired of using my Gal/Cal pistol suits upon my return after my month long Dead-Space, Alpha Protocol, D&D hiatus.... so I'm rolling around in a Min M-1 light frame: 2 CPX damps 1 CPX precision 1 ENH shield 1 basic SCP 1 ZN-28 No EQs No grenade KDR = sucktastic Fun = back! Need to level up knives. Good knifer feedback the last few pages, thanks guys. I think this feedback was for some other chump but IDGAF, thanks!! nice.. nothing like an M-1 ***** slap to a proto heavy. it's the ultimate trophy kill. 2x codebreakers or precisions 2x damps+ishnoks+basic SMG+basic clack is my training fit for knives Also, just a thought--should beating amarr passives with 2x complex damps require or not require a cloak (philosophical, not actual, it currently doesn't) Min and Amarr will require a cloak, not the Gal or Cal. Hence why standardised reduction on cloaks would be very helpful :-P Yeah i just remembered that....im stupid lol "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
voidfaction Void of Faction 320	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:03:00 - [17689] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Brokerib wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Soooo many people raging already about the proposed changes. None of them have looked at the data or thought about this. SCOUTS! Go into the forums and show them why these changes are necessary. People are willing to listen if you explain it! Help me out a bit, I got my hands full over here. Hope my posts helped you out Im actually liking these changes, but could someone tell me definitively whats happening with the cloak damp bonus? If its on the spreadsheet i can't find it as its a little difficult for me to understand. Stays at 10% at Proto (factored into the calculations, 2 x damps and cloak or 3 x damps will get you below the precision of any scout), with Rattati considering making it a blanket bonus across all cloak tiers. Which would be my preference. Otherwise passive invisibility is only available to proto scouts with proto cloaks fitting proto damps. 10% at all tiers is not only necessary for a min scout, but helps newer players as well. if we can sell it, that'd be awesome Also to what extent will running one damp be viable (with 10% cloak bonus assumed)? if we could get a new scan chart going telling me what i can/can't avoid, id really like that. I could do the math, but not feeling it right now necessity is greater for the cal than the min. Min std is better off then a cal std even if it is 10% dampening for all tiers of cloak.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1351	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:06:00 - [17690] - Quote voidfaction wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Brokerib wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Soooo many people raging already about the proposed changes. None of them have looked at the data or thought about this. SCOUTS! Go into the forums and show them why these changes are necessary. People are willing to listen if you explain it! Help me out a bit, I got my hands full over here. Hope my posts helped you out Im actually liking these changes, but could someone tell me definitively whats happening with the cloak damp bonus? If its on the spreadsheet i can't find it as its a little difficult for me to understand. Stays at 10% at Proto (factored into the calculations, 2 x damps and cloak or 3 x damps will get you below the precision of any scout), with Rattati considering making it a blanket bonus across all cloak tiers. Which would be my preference. Otherwise passive invisibility is only available to proto scouts with proto cloaks fitting proto damps. 10% at all tiers is not only necessary for a min scout, but helps newer players as well. if we can sell it, that'd be awesome Also to what extent will running one damp be viable (with 10% cloak bonus assumed)? if we could get a new scan chart going telling me what i can/can't avoid, id really like that. I could do the math, but not feeling it right now necessity is greater for the cal than the min. Min std is better off then a cal std even if it is 10% dampening for all tiers of cloak. Depends on what you want to do. If you're talking from a dampening perspective than you're right-the man with the most lows wins "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5980	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:28:00 - [17691] - Quote Dammit Monk. I swear you are 2/3 of my total likes How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout PSN: EVL_Elgost105
mollerz 3959	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:32:00 - [17692] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dammit Monk. I swear you are 2/3 of my total likes It just seems like a lot because they come in huge waves of ketchup. You're Welcome... see their you go, Appia!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1354	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:35:00 - [17693] - Quote Oh guys one last quick question before i head out....was the min scout speed buff confirmed by our Rat-like companion? "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
mollerz 3959	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:35:00 - [17694] - Quote I go through moments of M/1 or dragonfly fun. But it's too fucksing proto out there nowadays. Maybe match making should be a priority. Any kind of matchmaking whatsoever. Or how bout that lag? I don't know about you guys, but single digit framerate really gets me all hot and bothered. You're Welcome... see their you go, Appia!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1354	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:36:00 - [17695] - Quote mollerz wrote: I go through moments of M/1 or dragonfly fun. But it's too fucksing proto out there nowadays. Maybe match making should be a priority. Any kind of matchmaking whatsoever. Or how bout that lag? I don't know about you guys, but single digit framerate really gets me all hot and bothered. Id like matchmaking with matches for only proto suits, and matches with only basic...thatd be awesome, basic minja for days...wouldnt even have to worry about two damps, i could even use a kin cat! "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
mollerz 3959	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:38:00 - [17696] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Oh guys one last quick question before i head out....was the min scout speed buff confirmed by our Rat-like companion? All I saw of note was the NK changes- all of which are for people who never use knives. Oh and a minuscule PG bump (undisclosed as of so far), as well as a slight codebreaker/kin cat PG reduction. Oh wait- there will be an NK fitting op skill- so there's that as well. Oh, and CBs are staying low slot for nowever. So basically- the speed boost looks like it is solely in the form of the ability to possibly fit more kin cat. You're Welcome... see their you go, Appia!
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5983	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:38:00 - [17697] - Quote Hey, if Charlie fulfills all of our hopes and dreams... Can we put Rattati on the honorary wall as well? How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout PSN: EVL_Elgost105
mollerz 3959	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:39:00 - [17698] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: mollerz wrote: I go through moments of M/1 or dragonfly fun. But it's too fucksing proto out there nowadays. Maybe match making should be a priority. Any kind of matchmaking whatsoever. Or how bout that lag? I don't know about you guys, but single digit framerate really gets me all hot and bothered. Id like matchmaking with matches for only proto suits, and matches with only basic...thatd be awesome, basic minja for days...wouldnt even have to worry about two damps, i could even use a kin cat! It will become skill stomping instead of proto.. but that would be a huge improvement. I agree. that would be the easiest and probably most successful type of matchmaking they could implement. You're Welcome... see their you go, Appia!
mollerz 3960	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:40:00 - [17699] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Hey, if Charlie fulfills all of our hopes and dreams... Can we put Rattati on the honorary wall as well? NO. He needs a thicker skin first. And let's wait and see if he delivers. But if he does.. then yup! You're Welcome... see their you go, Appia!
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1356	Posted - 2014.07.15 03:40:00 - [17700] - Quote mollerz wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Oh guys one last quick question before i head out....was the min scout speed buff confirmed by our Rat-like companion? All I saw of note was the NK changes- all of which are for people who never use knives. Oh and a minuscule PG bump (undisclosed as of so far), as well as a slight codebreaker/kin cat PG reduction. Oh wait- there will be an NK fitting op skill- so there's that as well. Oh, and CBs are staying low slot for nowever. So basically- the speed boost looks like it is solely in the form of the ability to possibly fit more kin cat. **** Compared to the amarr scout were getting nothing oh well i won't even be playing for a few weeks "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand



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