I don't know if people don't use Adv or higher active scanners in matches but I've only been successfuly scan once in my pro gal scout with lvl 3 Damp the funny thing was I was surprised and scared at the same time when it happen I was WTF I got scaned

I'm running gallente passive scanner scout from CBT, i'm sure i know better than anyone about scouts, scanning range & precision ... i think i'm the only crazy person than runs shotty proto scout with only scan mods - no biotics, no HP mods, etc :)

EDIT: Best result was 22\1, last 12\0.
EDIT2:
shotty scout p. scan
spotted sniper siting on the hill 750-800m away, forced me to cross map to kill him :D
and i spotted him with railgun tank, not with sniper rifle scope

thanks for all the math Shotty. I am working on getting lvl 5 Gal suit right now, Got enough for the lvl 4 but not investing til i have enough for lvl 5.. Anyone know off hand what the sp is for scout V?

I've been wondering about how passive scanning shows up in game - does it only show the red dots on the radar or do you see a chevron on the screen too if they're behind a hill or wall or something?

Been reading through all the scanning stuff shotty's posted up lately too and looks like I'm going to have to do some work to make my sniper hunting fits more effective - haven't even started on the precision skill and don't want to use a scanner because then I won't be able to sneak up on those camping buggers. That said, I guess I'll only have trouble picking up scout snipers...

Are you going to get precision lvl5? Nice fitting by the way!

Passive Scanning picks up signatures in range is displays them on your TacNet. I believe HUD chevrons are linked to TacNet.

Solo hunting as a Scout Sniper is gonna be less effective, but you guys are going to be extremely hard to find. You will absolutely need a spotter. Someone with a fancy-pants Active Scanner sneaking around enemy lines. The good news is that you won't have a hard time finding a Recon Scout :p

Don't worry about precision. It's mostly crap. Dampening is our focus at the moment. If you're consistently sniping at 200 meters out, you probably won't even need to worry about dampening.

- Shotty

When i run my shotty gk.0 scout with 3 Cmp Amplifiers ..

Thanks for the pointers, though you've misunderstood me on a couple of bits - I don't snipe (not much anyway); I go on foot along the enemy redline and other known camping spots and sneak up on enemy snipers to pop them in the head with my bubble gun (scrambler pistol). I'm concerned by Keeriam's assertion that scanning range skills add so little but I'm hoping that the others who've posted about that stuff previously have the real numbers...

I can imaging a 50m or so passive scan radius would be incredibly helpful to a shotgunner. I'm going to have to give this a try, Keeriam. Though for this build, I'll likely be running proto scanners.

My mistake, Django. If you're hunting Snipers, you'll likely hear them before you pick them up with passive scanning. Everyone's base scan range starts at 10m, and even a Gallente Scout can only get it up so high given the small percentage incrementation at hand. Ideally, the Devs will reverse this nerf and up the Scout's base scan range. In the mean time, I find the 200m / 90 degree scanner incredibly effective at revealing redline and perimeter positions.

I am at 56m with 4 advanced range. 99m is top with lvl5 range, lvl5 gallente scout, and 4 complex range

BTW - here is where Void was telling us about his scanning range findings: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1189668#post1189668


I really hope this is correct but CCP really needs to give us the real calculations/stats.

Passive Scan Range (Assuming Percentage Overlap)
Lvl(1) Light-Frame = 10.00 meters
Lvl(1) Gallente Scout = +10% = 11.00 meters
Lvl(2) Gallente Scout = +10% = 12.10 meters
Lvl(3) Gallente Scout = +10% = 13.31 meters
Lvl(4) Gallente Scout = +10% = 14.64 meters
Lvl(5) Gallente Scout = +10% = 16.11 meters
Lvl(1) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 17.72 meters
Lvl(2) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 19.49 meters
Lvl(3) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 21.44meters
Lvl(4) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 23.59 meters
Lvl(5) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 25.95 meters
1 Complex Range Amplifiers = +45.00% = 37.63 meters
2 Complex Range Amplifiers = +39.11% = 52.34 meters
3 Complex Range Amplifiers = +25.68% = 65.78 meters
4 Complex Range Amplifiers = +12.73% = 74.16 meters

Passive Scan Range (Assuming No Overlap)
Lvl(1) Light-Frame = 10.00 meters
Lvl(5) Gallente Scout = +50% = 15.00 meters
Lvl(5) Long Range Scanning = +50% = 22.50 meters
4 Complex Range Amplifiers = +186.78% = 64.53 meters

Conclusion:
Accounting for Stacking Penalties, that the absolute maximum passive scan range is between 65 and 75 meters.

References (Stacking Penalty Calculator):
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Stacking_Penalties

- Shotty

Can run similar number on what your Scan Sig will be?

Hi Vin,
Click back a few pages ... the requested scenarios have already been run for Scan Profile.
- Shotty

Passive Scan Range - Upper Bound (Percentages Stack)
Lvl(1) Light-Frame = 10.00 meters
Lvl(1) Gallente Scout = +10% = 11.00 meters
Lvl(2) Gallente Scout = +10% = 12.10 meters
Lvl(3) Gallente Scout = +10% = 13.31 meters
Lvl(4) Gallente Scout = +10% = 14.64 meters
Lvl(5) Gallente Scout = +10% = 16.11 meters
Lvl(1) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 17.72 meters
Lvl(2) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 19.49 meters
Lvl(3) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 21.44meters
Lvl(4) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 23.59 meters
Lvl(5) Long Range Scanning = +10% = 25.95 meters
1 Complex Range Amplifiers = +45.00% = 37.63 meters
2 Complex Range Amplifiers = +39.11% = 52.34 meters
3 Complex Range Amplifiers = +25.68% = 65.78 meters
4 Complex Range Amplifiers = +12.73% = 74.16 meters

Passive Scan Range - Lower Bound (Percentages Don't Stack)
Lvl(1) Light-Frame = 10.00 meters
Lvl(5) Gallente Scout = +50% = 15.00 meters
Lvl(5) Long Range Scanning = +50% = 22.50 meters
4 Complex Range Amplifiers = +186.78% = 64.53 meters

Conclusion:
Accounting for Stacking Penalties,the maximum passive scan range is around 70 meters (+/- 5 meters tolerance).

References (Stacking Penalty Calculator):
http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=Stacking_Penalties

- Shotty

So damn, when I get that Proto scanner you bastards can still sneak up on me. :) Good, scouts can be scary and scanners are more for everyone else anyway.

also CCP needs to give us a base range of 20.0m
so with the gal bounse plus lvl3 range and Enh Damp it barely get 20.0m

\o/ for sneaky bastardry!
No worries though, Vin.
We'll still be paper thin.

Im guessing they go 15 m, 50% more than the other like in the past. Maybe with that they will give an other racial bonus to the gallente scout!

My belief is that the percentages from each skill multiply on each other but not on themselves; so for level 5 scanning range, you get 150% range, rather than 110% x 110% x 110% x 110% x 110% =161%.
This is how my understanding scales:
just skills (lvl 5 gal scout, lvl 5 scanning): 22.5m
skills with 1 cmp amp: 32.6m
2 cmp: 47.3
3x : 68.6m
4x: 99.5m

That's if the mods multiply on each other like Voidification has stated. If the mods don't multiply on each other, like Keeriam states, it would look like this:
1x: 32.6m
2x: 42.8m
3x: 52.9m
4x: 63m

My hope is that it's the former rather than the latter.

My belief is that the percentages from each skill multiply on each other but not on themselves; so for level 5 scanning range, you get 150% range, rather than 110% x 110% x 110% x 110% x 110% =161%.
This is how my understanding scales:
just skills (lvl 5 gal scout, lvl 5 scanning): 22.5m
skills with 1 cmp amp: 32.6m
2 cmp: 47.3
3x : 68.6m
4x: 99.5m

That's if the mods multiply on each other like Voidification has stated. If the mods don't multiply on each other, like Keeriam states, it would look like this:
1x: 32.6m
2x: 42.8m
3x: 52.9m
4x: 63m

My hope is that it's the former rather than the latter.

i'm confused all suits only get 1 racial bonus also if you misunderstood what i talking about scout suit get a base range of 20.0m

You add the bonuses from mod together (after stacking penalties) and apply them at the same time.

Yes and gallente its radar range radius 10% per lvl, if both scout have 50% more range than the other suit, you can give a different bonus to the gallente in replacement of this 10% radar radius

your calculations are wrong lvl5 gal scout, lvl 5 PS you get only 16.0m