Im a filthy causal towards smash. Street fighter is my only fighting game love. Even that is nothing to my star craft2 chode.... Even if they made the story beyond dumb.

I am horrifically close to being a poor.

I'm about 3 Pythons away from having less than 100 mil.

Got less than 20 Mil.

GOML.

If you run ISK positive, wallet doesn't matter anyways.

I finally got gal scout to 5 and I think this is where my options really open up and since I don't want to search through hundreds of posts, I'll just lazily reply to this thread with my doubts and questions.

1.What should go in the low slots? I usually run two kin cats on with two damps for meatgrinder maps or replace a damp with a card reg for open maps or skirmish. I was also thinking of replacing the card reg/damp with a ferroscale. Are armor modules on a gal scout optimal or necessary?

2. What about high slots? I used to run precision enhancers but passive scanning is wonky so I switched them for extenders. Would it be better to use damage mods, myofibs or mix it up?

3. Are cloaks recommended? I like cloaks on my hacking suit but the switching delay and decloak noise get me killed too often. Lately, I've been running uplinks to help the blues and an active scanner to make up for the crappy passives. What scanner should I use?

4. Shotguns only? I've been using the shotgun a lot but I still can't aim with it properly. If the guy moves, I instantly lose track of him in CQC and get murdered. I was thinking of using an assault rifle but I don't think it has enough alpha damage.

I could just ask for a fitting but I want to know the reasoning used by the masters of the scout craft.

I have 500k, GOML.


Also, are toxins and exiles tradable yet? I really want a toxin ar and smg :(

The only two Gal fits you will ever need for pubs.

Warning, lazy formatting.

Fit 1, Haven't been scanned yet.

Scout gk.057,690

Complex Precision Enhancer5,925
Complex Shield Extender4,275
Complex Profile Dampener3,420
Complex Kinetic Catalyzer2,955
Complex Ferroscale Plates3,945
Complex Armor Repairer5,595
Duvolle Specialist Shotgun47,220
GN-20 Specialist Flaylock Pistol7,935
C-7 Flux Grenade1,605
ARN-18 Cloak Field3,420
Viziam Stable Drop Uplink10,575

ISK Estimated Cost:~ 154,560


Fit 2, Better start damping

Scout gk.057,690

Complex Precision Enhancer5,925
Complex Shield Extender4,275
Complex Profile Dampener3,420
Complex Kinetic Catalyzer2,955
Complex Reactive Plates3,945
Complex Profile Dampener3,420
Duvolle Specialist Shotgun47,220
GN-20 Specialist Flaylock Pistol7,935
C-7 Flux Grenade1,605
ARN-18 Cloak Field3,420
Viziam Stable Drop Uplink10,575

ISK Estimated Cost:~ 152,385

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I like cloaks simply because of the mindgames with them. Cloaks have saved my life countless times, you just gotta know when to use it, and when to turn it off. Be judicious with it.

Shotguns Shotguns Shotguns. AR's are nice, but you shouldn't be engaging from range. If you're seen at range, you run, not fight. If you're not seen at range, GET CLOSER. You can't beat the sheer GANK power of a shotgun. Put em in the dirt, and fast.

I like a single precision just because it gets you 25 dB at 15m. Catches sneaky assaults who run a single damp. I prefer it over more shields, but that's up to personal preference. I consider that second high slot a "utility" slot. Run whatever you think you need on it. If you need damage, go for it. Shields? Get it. I only consider a single shield extender on the Gal Scout "Mandatory" when running a ferro and rep, so go hog wild.

For pubs though, these fits should be fine. Nothing you shouldn't be able to handle without success. If the team is getting wrecked, just cloak, run around and hack undefended stuff and throw down uplinks for points. Works every time.

That's the beauty of the Gal scout. If you don't want to fight, you don't have to. With a good brain, cloak, and proper damps you can avoid engagements, no matter how hard they want to find you.

I ran a 3x Gal scout against a team of 10 FA in a pub once. I died ONCE and that was because I took a bad fight. I literally ran circles around them all match. I never left the city.

It was awesome.

Thing is Ghost, i sometimes get into a forced fight. Can't avoid everyone every time all the time.

I swear, people have forgotten how to be a bastard. You don't need to drop 20+ kills.

All you need to do is grab a good handful and not die too much. Your goal is to create a numbers advantage elsewhere and annoy the p*ss out of the poor souls who have to defend that city.

Ah... memories.
Caldari Production Facility.
Such good times.

Tempted to set up the blasted PS3, but not just yet.

Also, I remember a nice old argument between me and Zor, he believed killing was more important. I argued that the letter was the main bloody objective, and winning the battle is more important than winning individual engagements. Of course I later got lured into the lunacy of his arguments and let anger win. (BIG mistake. The Barbershop has the 'scars' of our rather childish arguments.)
I see the same problem in Battlefield 5: Star Wa... I mean Battlefront.
The majority of players believe the object to be kill and only kill.

Quite irritating to myself really.

I swear, people have forgotten how to be a bastard.

Shotty, we need a post in the feedback and or GD section with those words. Despite how tainted and slummed GD is

Shotty, we need a post in the feedback and or GD section with those words. Despite how tainted and slummed GD is

Right!? How much fun it was watching Jolly and Moody running around on YouTube, while not killing things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbKm1T2Avs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCLGEM4cSIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REsKIZedfgE
Want more? There are lots.

(Being a bastard has always been about backstabs and shenanigans. Good scoutplay should be sneaky, smart, fast-paced, high risk, high reward with little (if any) room for error. It should be difficult and unforgiving, but it should be also be violent and fun. What we have now is not good scoutplay. We exist where high risk meets low reward. What used to "outsmart and kill the enemy" has gradually become "avoid the enemy or be killed". What was "brains over brawn" is now "run and hide". What we have today is not rewarding, exhilirating or smart gameplay. What we have today is far from fun.)

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To those old Scouts who miss their fangs and those new Scouts who have yet to drink the Kool Aid, don't give up your rightful claim as DUST's Assassin class! We are designed to kill, just like Assaults and Heavies, but we are designed to do so differently. Don't let Ghost Kaiser, CPM or anyone else tell you that killing is not central to scouting. Don't forget what it really means to be a Bastard, and don't settle for anything less than a fair shake. Keep your blades sharp. Keep your wits sharper. Keep your victims guessing. And remember your roots! If ever in doubt, just watch more Jolly and Moody.

Aye, but we shall never focus on the slaying, shall we? I must say, the prime directive of bastards, and scouts, as I see it is to... well...

To weave in and out of the chaos, leaving survivors frantic and confused as their comrades' bodies turn to ashes upon the winds.

To stand defiantly in the face of greater odds, to meet Hell with a grin so to speak. To turn the tide of the battle without a single bloody shot.

To save clones of your comrades, and deliver a performance crippling fit of paranoia to those against you as their numbers dwindle from an unknown force, from the 'You have been scanned.' at the top of their displays, or from a foe they know of, whom toys with them, or perhaps even dispatches them before they can collect their wits.

Perhaps I am wrong, but I do believe this is our nature.

Right!? How much fun it was watching Jolly and Moody running around on YouTube, while not killing things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZbKm1T2Avs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCLGEM4cSIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REsKIZedfgE
Want more? There are lots.

(Being a bastard has always been about backstabs and shenanigans. Good scoutplay should be sneaky, smart, fast-paced, high risk, high reward with little (if any) room for error. It should be difficult to master and brutally unforgiving, but it should be also be exhilarating, violent and -- most importantly -- fun. What we have now is not good scoutplay. Today, we occupy a space which shouldn't exist; a space where high risk meets low reward. What used to be "outsmart and kill the enemy" has gradually become "avoid the enemy or be killed". What was "brains over brawn" is now "run and hide". What we have today is not rewarding, exhilarating or smart assassin play. What we have today is far from fun.)

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To those old Scouts who miss their fangs and those new Scouts who have yet to drink the Kool Aid, don't give up your rightful claim as DUST's Assassin class! We are designed to kill, just like Assaults and Heavies, but we are designed to do so differently. Don't let Ghost Kaiser, CPM or anyone else tell you that killing is not central to scouting. Don't forget what it really means to be a Bastard, and don't settle for anything less than a fair shake. Keep your blades sharp. Keep your wits sharper. Keep your victims guessing. And remember your roots! If ever in doubt, hop over to YouTube and watch more Jolly and Moody.

Good scoutplay should be sneaky, smart, fast-paced, high risk, high reward with little (if any) room for error. It should be difficult to master and brutally unforgiving, but it should be also be exhilarating, violent and -- most importantly -- fun.

If you have 3 damps and a cloak you should be able to avoid people. It won't be easy, but its totally possible.

Stay in areas with lots of twists and turns. Rings map is great for this. The city there is convoluted with tons of cover. If someone sees you, just start turning corners until you find a place to stay still for a bit.

Don't immediately try to go all Jurrasic Park on them. If they think you stopped moving, its easy to check nearby areas to find where you could be. You want to create doubt.

"Did he stop and hide, or is he still running?"

Scouts should definately be good at killing, but in their unique way, relying on stealth.

Jolly's rise of scout vid is a good example of scout killing.
Moody's 60 bomb is a prime example of what went wrong. This is what assaults should be best at. A scout should have to rely on stealth.

I'm not fine with people twisting my words, ignoring what I'm saying, and trying to paint me as a villain, especially when the advice I'm giving is effective in teaching people how to play the role in a way that benefits both them, and the team.

Completely agree. Just watched the duration the "60 bomb" (skimmed over it earlier) ... looked like 1.8 at its worst.

Grabbed that one in response to Ghost's "all you need to do is a handful". There's no good reason to limit high kill games to other classes. If a Scout is good enough, there's nothing wrong design-wise with him posting 20+ kills.

I don't know what made me think of this, but I had an idea.

We had more than a few talks about how scout uplinks should be harder to scan down right? I've been playing EVE and been playing with Covert Ops ships now for a while.

Uplinks are basically Cynos. They're easy to detect and lets people jump from one place to another (Spawn to ground).

So shouldn't scouts have access to covert ops uplinks? Covert op cynos in EVE are like uplinks, except they don't show up on the overview, but only certain ships can warp to them. Since limiting who can spawn on them in Dust is stupid, I came up with this idea.

They would be a new item with different stats. Huge CPU/PG to fit. Scale CPU/PG and skill so that Scout I lets you easily fit Basic Covert Ops uplinks, III lets you fit adv easily and V lets you fit proto easily (And by Easy, I mean comparable to normal uplinks).

They would be very hard to scan. I'm talking sub 20 range for the basic, with proto being as low as 13 (Math needed, I want passive scout scans to pick it up at close range). They also don't have the stupid sound or beam of light. Just a hunk of metal on the ground.

It would have high spawn times and low spawn counts. To counter, the scout carries quite a few of them. They're made so that a scout can wander a city undetected, and drop spawns that won't broadcast where he's at or going. Since Gal Logi's won't be able to sweep the links with their scans, strong scanning scouts would be needed to counter their links. A Cal Scout would be well suited to sweeping these links (And probably be able to find the scout as well).

What do you think?

Can we even make new assets in this game?

EDIT: I read that last post, since I did want to see your response. I've never been so sad to see that my assumptions were right. It was a good run, but as they say "All good things must come to an end."

Someone do me a favor and tell me when he actually posts something worth considering in response to me. I've never devalued his feedback, only him discrediting what I'm saying on bad grounds. I just don't want to have to wonder if each post from him is going to be the former or the latter.