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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.01 23:01:00 -
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Djinn SouI wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Djinn SouI wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:why are you here soul Obviously for the disappointment. What else could I find here? Well... You could find terrible arguments where boths sides are wrong about everything they're arguing about. You could find strange needy teenagers who sometimes PM you on skype about all their life problems. You could find actual discussion about DU- Ach, this is fooling nobody. These are all negative.  Everything you listed disappoints me.
I know.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Kaze, you are best logi. Best. Logi.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.11.01 23:09:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:You could find terrible arguments where boths sides are wrong about everything they're arguing about.
I'll take that bait. Would love to hear what arguments the FoTM-chasing cool kids presently find "right".
NPE?
PC / Raids?
Match Quality?
Interclass Balance?
Humor me, Arkena. Tell us how it really is.
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Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
2
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Posted - 2015.11.01 23:18:00 -
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Can anyone here kindly inform me of the CPU and PG levels on the Apex Tiger Scout? I'm trying to make a fit on protofits, but I don't know what my constraints are... 
Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.11.01 23:41:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Can anyone here kindly inform me of the CPU and PG levels on the Apex Tiger Scout? I'm trying to make a fit on protofits, but I don't know what my constraints are...
Seem to recall APEX being +20% over STD.
(not online atm)
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.11.01 23:46:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:why are you here soul
He's not the real one.
Real one retired in AE, not MHPD.
Also, that "l" is actually an "i"
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
4
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Posted - 2015.11.01 23:47:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Can anyone here kindly inform me of the CPU and PG levels on the Apex Tiger Scout? I'm trying to make a fit on protofits, but I don't know what my constraints are...
CPU 289
PG 49
Sanmatar Kelkoons now recruiting
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Inmortal Slayer
Opus Arcana
22
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Posted - 2015.11.01 23:53:00 -
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Dr Dre senpai please pm me your Skype on dust today ^-^ ill check it later in about 5 hours and add you, cya all soon xxo |
XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
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Posted - 2015.11.01 23:56:00 -
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Inmortal Slayer wrote:Dr Dre senpai please pm me your Skype on dust today ^-^ ill check it later in about 5 hours and add you, cya all soon xxo
Ok
Amarr Loyalist
Amarr Commando Forever
Ancient Exiles. Member
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.11.02 00:01:00 -
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Do I've collected some interesting data. I went around in random squads asking people's opinion on the Amarr Commando. I surveyed 25 people. 5 were actually skilled into it and 20 were not.
22/25 people said it was underpowered.
The three that said it was balanced were not skilled into it
Thoughts?
Amarr Loyalist
Amarr Commando Forever
Ancient Exiles. Member
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
28
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Posted - 2015.11.02 00:06:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:You could find terrible arguments where boths sides are wrong about everything they're arguing about. I'll take that bait. Would love to hear what arguments the FoTM-chasing cool kids presently find "right". NPE? EWAR? PC / Raids? Match Quality? Interclass Balance? Humor me, Arkena. Tell us how it really is.
Why are you assuming these arguments are about DUST topics?
There was some argument over left shark vs right shark some time ago where everyone was wrong because it was American.
Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu
Kaze, you are best logi. Best. Logi.
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Posted - 2015.11.02 00:07:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Can anyone here kindly inform me of the CPU and PG levels on the Apex Tiger Scout? I'm trying to make a fit on protofits, but I don't know what my constraints are... CPU 289 PG 49 Shotty wrote:Seem to recall APEX being +20% over STD. I've just noticed it's PG is on Par with a basic suit but has less CPU than a basic. And it's the only APEX I have where this is the case. But it's base stats are higher than the M-1.
Error?
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First Prophet
Nos Nothi
4
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Posted - 2015.11.02 00:08:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:First Prophet wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Can anyone here kindly inform me of the CPU and PG levels on the Apex Tiger Scout? I'm trying to make a fit on protofits, but I don't know what my constraints are... CPU 289 PG 49 Shotty wrote:Seem to recall APEX being +20% over STD. I've just noticed it's PG is on Par with a basic suit but has less CPU than a basic. And it's the only APEX I have where this is the case. But it's base stats are higher than the M-1. Error?
*shrug*
Sanmatar Kelkoons now recruiting
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.11.02 00:09:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:First Prophet wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Can anyone here kindly inform me of the CPU and PG levels on the Apex Tiger Scout? I'm trying to make a fit on protofits, but I don't know what my constraints are... CPU 289 PG 49 Shotty wrote:Seem to recall APEX being +20% over STD. I've just noticed it's PG is on Par with a basic suit but has less CPU than a basic. And it's the only APEX I have where this is the case. But it's base stats are higher than the M-1. Error? *shrug*
I'll put together a spreadsheet. Interested to see if there are any other anomalies.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.11.02 00:41:00 -
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Google Doc: APEX v STD Resources
Source: In Game Fitting Summaries (Market)
@ Prophet - Not seeing the issue you're describing, at least under Fitting Summaries; could be that the resources in suit descriptions differ from actual suit resources, in which case there's definitely a problem. Please advise (I don't own a Tiger). Did find one anomaly though; Federation 'Centurion' Commando PG appears to be off by +2PG.
@ Booby - Tiger's showing 220 CPU /37 PG, roughly 20% more than STD.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.11.02 01:29:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Do I've collected some interesting data. I went around in random squads asking people's opinion on the Amarr Commando. I surveyed 25 people. 5 were actually skilled into it and 20 were not.
22/25 people said it was underpowered.
The three that said it was balanced were not skilled into it
Thoughts?
I'd think that Rattati's data would carry more weight in an argument than player surveys.
Google Doc; KDR by Class/Tier
Google Doc: PC Kill Distribution
I'd say these are pretty good indication that the AM Commando could use a hug.
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Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
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Posted - 2015.11.02 02:46:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:Can anyone here kindly inform me of the CPU and PG levels on the Apex Tiger Scout? I'm trying to make a fit on protofits, but I don't know what my constraints are... CPU 289 PG 49
Adipem Nothi wrote:
@ Booby - Tiger's showing 220 CPU /37 PG, roughly 20% more than STD.
My math says then with max skills the Tiger should be 246 CPU, and 48 PG? 25% bonus from Electronics and Engineering, and 5% from Dropsuit Upgrades?
Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
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Shiny Mudkip
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Posted - 2015.11.02 02:53:00 -
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Interesting conversations going on I see...
Team killed 513 Blueberries to complete the Crimson Harvest event.
Yes, I am that cruel.
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Booby Tuesdays
Bad Mother Thukkers
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Posted - 2015.11.02 02:56:00 -
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I have another random question. If I run a Complex Damp and a Basic Damp on my Minja, Dust lists it as having a 21 dB profile. Protofits lists the number at 20.55 dB. Dust rounds up, but if I were in game, would I still avoid 21 dB scans?
Half Assed Forum Warrior - Half Decent Commando - Damn Good Logi - Matari Freedom Fighter lvl 8
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Shiny Mudkip
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Posted - 2015.11.02 02:58:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:I have another random question. If I run a Complex Damp and a Basic Damp on my Minja, Dust lists it as having a 21 dB profile. Protofits lists the number at 20.55 dB. Dust rounds up, but if I were in game, would I still avoid 21 dB scans?
The lower the dB the better...
Team killed 513 Blueberries to complete the Crimson Harvest event.
Yes, I am that cruel.
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
3
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Posted - 2015.11.02 03:10:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:I have another random question. If I run a Complex Damp and a Basic Damp on my Minja, Dust lists it as having a 21 dB profile. Protofits lists the number at 20.55 dB. Dust rounds up, but if I were in game, would I still avoid 21 dB scans?
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.11.02 03:35:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:I have another random question. If I run a Complex Damp and a Basic Damp on my Minja, Dust lists it as having a 21 dB profile. Protofits lists the number at 20.55 dB. Dust rounds up, but if I were in game, would I still avoid 21 dB scans? No. You need to get it to show 20dB.
^
Profile and Precision round to nearest whole number. Ties favor Scanner.
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Shiny Mudkip
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Posted - 2015.11.02 03:37:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ares 514 wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:I have another random question. If I run a Complex Damp and a Basic Damp on my Minja, Dust lists it as having a 21 dB profile. Protofits lists the number at 20.55 dB. Dust rounds up, but if I were in game, would I still avoid 21 dB scans? No. You need to get it to show 20dB. ^ Profile and Precision round to nearest whole number. Ties favor Scanner.
CCP favors scanners confirmed.
Team killed 350 Blueberries to complete the Crimson Harvest event.
Yes, I am that cruel.
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Hylian11
Opus Arcana
517
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Posted - 2015.11.02 03:53:00 -
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Dries, tell us the truth! MAIL ME THE TRUTH!
Me: "Don't listen to her, I am not a teddy bear!"
Raven: "I believe her more"
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Joel II X
Bacon with a bottle of Quafe
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Posted - 2015.11.02 03:55:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Have you checked the numbers? EWAR progressions are on Page 1.
I'm thinking 0-5-10 to 5-10-15.
The point is to enable MN/AM Scouts to duck 21dB scans if they fit 1 complex damp and have a proto cloak active. If my math's correct, Gallente and Caldari Scouts would observe zero (or near zero) interplay benefits; they'd still need to fit a damp to dodge permascan.
PS: I completely agree with you that zero damp GalScouts would be trouble.
I thought you were going for higher numbers, so that they would be able to easily dodge Focused scans.
Carry on.
Scouts United
Gk.0s & Quafes all day.
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.11.02 04:07:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Do I've collected some interesting data. I went around in random squads asking people's opinion on the Amarr Commando. I surveyed 25 people. 5 were actually skilled into it and 20 were not.
22/25 people said it was underpowered.
The three that said it was balanced were not skilled into it
Thoughts? I'd think that Rattati's data would carry more weight in an argument than player surveys. Google Doc; KDR by Class/TierGoogle Doc: PC Kill DistributionI'd say these are pretty good indication that the AM Commando could use a hug.
Actually the reason I even did the surveys in the first place is because of that data.
Amarr Loyalist
Amarr Commando Forever
Ancient Exiles. Member
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.11.02 04:37:00 -
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XxBlazikenxX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Do I've collected some interesting data. I went around in random squads asking people's opinion on the Amarr Commando. I surveyed 25 people. 5 were actually skilled into it and 20 were not.
22/25 people said it was underpowered.
The three that said it was balanced were not skilled into it
Thoughts? I'd think that Rattati's data would carry more weight in an argument than player surveys. Google Doc; KDR by Class/TierGoogle Doc: PC Kill DistributionI'd say these are pretty good indication that the AM Commando could use a hug. Actually the reason I even did the surveys in the first place is because of that data.
Keep in mind that the data there is now half a year old.
This isn't directed at whether or not the Amarr Commando needs a buff or not.
Just stating that its been 6 months since that data was collected.
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
Wanna play EVE? 30 day trial here
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Dried ShadowBeaver
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.11.02 04:44:00 -
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Hylian11 wrote:Dries, tell us the truth! MAIL ME THE TRUTH!
Huh?
Touch my beaver tail.
Go on.
Touch it.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.11.02 05:00:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Do I've collected some interesting data. I went around in random squads asking people's opinion on the Amarr Commando. I surveyed 25 people. 5 were actually skilled into it and 20 were not.
22/25 people said it was underpowered.
The three that said it was balanced were not skilled into it
Thoughts? I'd think that Rattati's data would carry more weight in an argument than player surveys. Google Doc; KDR by Class/TierGoogle Doc: PC Kill DistributionI'd say these are pretty good indication that the AM Commando could use a hug. Actually the reason I even did the surveys in the first place is because of that data. Keep in mind that the data there is now half a year old. This isn't directed at whether or not the Amarr Commando needs a buff or not. Just stating that its been 6 months since that data was collected.
Ghost is absolutely correct. That KDR data came from this thread back in May:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2770837#post2770837
The data predates the Commando slot increase of Warlords 1.1.3:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2830453#post2830453
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XxBlazikenxX
Pure Evil.
Bleeding Sun Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2015.11.02 05:19:00 -
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I just played a skirmish and had the time of my life.
Suit: Templar Sentinel
Highs: Comple PG upgrade
Lows: 3 complex kin cats, 1 Complex cardiovascular
Primary weapon: Ishukone nks
I went 15/6 with 1533 and winning the match. I even killed a proto gal scout that was using an experimental shotgun
Amarr Loyalist
Amarr Commando Forever
Ancient Exiles. Member
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2015.11.02 05:24:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:XxBlazikenxX wrote:Do I've collected some interesting data. I went around in random squads asking people's opinion on the Amarr Commando. I surveyed 25 people. 5 were actually skilled into it and 20 were not.
22/25 people said it was underpowered.
The three that said it was balanced were not skilled into it
Thoughts? I'd think that Rattati's data would carry more weight in an argument than player surveys. Google Doc; KDR by Class/TierGoogle Doc: PC Kill DistributionI'd say these are pretty good indication that the AM Commando could use a hug. Actually the reason I even did the surveys in the first place is because of that data. Keep in mind that the data there is now half a year old. This isn't directed at whether or not the Amarr Commando needs a buff or not. Just stating that its been 6 months since that data was collected. Ghost is absolutely correct. That KDR data came from this thread back in May: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2770837#post2770837The data predates the Commando slot increase of Warlords 1.1.3: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2830453#post2830453Good catch. My mistake.
something something evaluating data is my job something something 
Re-Retired PC Scout. I miss the old days ;_;
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