Google Doc: APEX v STD Resources

Source: In Game Fitting Summaries (Market)

@ Prophet - Not seeing the issue you're describing, at least under Fitting Summaries; could be that the resources in suit descriptions differ from actual suit resources, in which case there's definitely a problem. Please advise (I don't own a Tiger). Did find one anomaly though; Federation 'Centurion' Commando PG appears to be off by +2PG.

@ Booby - Tiger's showing 220 CPU / 37 PG, roughly 20% more than STD.

Huh?

@ Bastards

Will be in meetings all day tomorrow which will most certainly not require my undivided attention. Plan to pass the time assembling a comprehensive list of "things to tweak" spanning modules, weapons, suits, etc ... anything and everything within reach of Hotfix that could use a little work. The plan -- obviously -- is to lace the list with Scout Buffs. Hopefully, one or two will slip by CPM2 undetected and make their way onto Rattati's desk.

The more stuff we can put on the list, the less likely CPM will suspect it as Scout propaganda. So, if you've got time, help me think of lots things to add.

Things So Far
* Scout / Cloak Buffs (obviously)
* Sniper Rifles (any ideas here?)
* Laser Rifles (thinking +zoom)
* Swarm Launchers (clip size tweaks)
* Assault Swarm Launcher (need moar ideas!)
* Module Progression (namely, shields & armor)
* Active Scanners (nerf nerf nerf ... but buff WP)
* Packed REs (buff buff buff)
* Commando Buffs? (not 100% sold on this one; more feedback would be awesome)
* Fall Damage (hotfixable?)
* ...

I know what you're thinking. Why isn't "Assault Nerfs" on that list? Yes, I completely agree that it should be, but again, we're trying to slip one past CPM so we can't very well suggest anything which might make 'em all frothy or suspicious. Same goes for EWAR / Falloff overhaul; probably best we save that nasty mess for later.

So what am I missing, gents? What other "low hanging fruit" can we pile on to help bury our propaganda?

You know the thing that needs to be known, so let it be known so that we may know

Well...
You could find terrible arguments where boths sides are wrong about everything they're arguing about.
You could find strange needy teenagers who sometimes PM you on skype about all their life problems.
You could find actual discussion about DU-

Ach, this is fooling nobody. These are all negative.

@ Shotty

I don't think that DPS needs to be the balancing factor. Especially in a high TTK environment. Now maybe if TTK were lower that would make more sense. But if say, the difference in DPS between pro and standard ScR were only 3% instead of 10%, you could give Pro much higher clip size and std much lower clip size.

Look how grenades have been adjusted. Same damage, with radius sizes being the difference.

This is what I would like to see, personally, across items and weapons.

Mods would have to be a whole different story as many have too few facets to adjust to begin with.

Did you post Range Amplifier Buff? If not, Range Amplifier Buff.

Switcheroo for logi / scout scan radius (coz that's plain stupid and who even came up with that as something that makes sense)

But ... what about trifecta!? And having cake!?

I only know enough about trifecta to know that I don't care because past decisions aren't enforceable, and as for cake - that **** is bad for you, eat a banana :-p

**** was it one of us?

curse that dastardly princess zatara
single-handedly responsible for all the world's sins

@ Bastards

Will be in meetings all day tomorrow which will most certainly not require my undivided attention. Plan to pass the time assembling a comprehensive list of "things to tweak" spanning modules, weapons, suits, etc ... anything and everything within reach of Hotfix that could use a little work. The plan -- obviously -- is to lace the list with Scout Buffs. Hopefully, one or two will slip by CPM2 undetected and make their way onto Rattati's desk.

The more stuff we can put on the list, the less likely CPM will suspect it as Scout propaganda. So, if you've got time, help me think of lots things to add.

Things So Far
* Scout / Cloak Buffs (obviously)
* Sniper Rifles (any ideas here?)
* Laser Rifles (thinking +zoom)
* Swarm Launchers (clip size tweaks)
* Assault Swarm Launcher (need moar ideas!)
* Module Progression (namely, shields & armor)
* Active Scanners (nerf nerf nerf ... but buff WP)
* Packed REs (buff buff buff)
* Commando Buffs? (not 100% sold on this one; more feedback would be awesome)
* Fall Damage (hotfixable?)
* ...

I know what you're thinking. Why isn't "Assault Nerfs" on that list? Yes, I completely agree that it should be, but again, we're trying to slip one past CPM so we can't very well suggest anything which might make 'em all frothy or suspicious. Same goes for EWAR / Falloff overhaul; probably best we save that nasty mess for later.

So what am I missing, gents? What other "low hanging fruit" can we pile on to help bury our propaganda?

Beyond replication and reporting, we can't help 'em hunt or squash bugs. Guess we could assemble a standing bug list though. Would it help, do you think?

@ Bastards

Will be in meetings all day tomorrow which will most certainly not require my undivided attention. Plan to pass the time assembling a comprehensive list of "things to tweak" spanning modules, weapons, suits, etc ... anything and everything within reach of Hotfix that could use a little work. The plan -- obviously -- is to lace the list with Scout Buffs. Hopefully, one or two will slip by CPM2 undetected and make their way onto Rattati's desk.

The more stuff we can put on the list, the less likely CPM will suspect it as Scout propaganda. So, if you've got time, help me think of lots things to add.

Things So Far
* Scout / Cloak Buffs (obviously)
* Sniper Rifles (any ideas here?)
* Laser Rifles (thinking +zoom)
* Swarm Launchers (clip size tweaks)
* Assault Swarm Launcher (need moar ideas!)
* Module Progression (namely, shields & armor)
* Active Scanners (nerf nerf nerf ... but buff WP)
* Packed REs (buff buff buff)
* Commando Buffs? (not 100% sold on this one; more feedback would be awesome)
* Fall Damage (hotfixable?)
* ...

I know what you're thinking. Why isn't "Assault Nerfs" on that list? Yes, I completely agree that it should be, but again, we're trying to slip one past CPM so we can't very well suggest anything which might make 'em all frothy or suspicious. Same goes for EWAR / Falloff overhaul; probably best we save that nasty mess for later.

So what am I missing, gents? What other "low hanging fruit" can we pile on to help bury our propaganda?

curse that dastardly princess zatara
single-handedly responsible for all the world's sins

I'm missing dust. God damn it I know im burned out soooo hard for playing it nearly everyday for a year. But I guess I'm missing the fact I can chill with alot of my friends on it. My ps4 friend's list is rather light and most are still playing dust
plus side war frame is awesome if still feeling strange.

Idea: Change the Assault bonus

Amarr Assault gets a reduction to laser weaponry charge time and cooldown. In short, it can charge up quicker and cool down faster.

Amarr commando gets a bonus to damage and heat generation. It deals damage better and longer, but requires longer times in between fights.

Commando gets to be amazing with the LR and be better at dealing with hardened targets (Being able to hit harder for longer).

Assault now thrives in being able to rapidly engage and re-engage targets (matches the idea of assaults being faster and more versatile).

Sound good?

No nickmunson. 0/10. PRAISE THE PIPES! PRAISE MUNSON!

Go away. We don't accept your kind here.


jk, hi Kail

You wouldn't know my kind if it slapped you in the face. Go ahead, I dare you to figure out what my role is.

I'm going to guess that it is either scout, logi, assault, commando, or sentinel?

No, it's Pilot Suit. Nice guess though.