I see Monk is on a roll.

He's reminded me of a time spent simulating exploding hamsters.

omg!! shotty!! I know how to change the future!!

QUICKLY!! edit your post so number 4 is "rattati is busy porting dust to pc/ps4" :D

omg!! shotty!! I know how to change the future!!

QUICKLY!! edit your post so number 4 is "rattati is busy porting dust to pc/ps4" :D

DO IT SHOTTY!!

Like this?

Google Doc: Beam Scanners - Ares Model

Edit: My regen numbers are off. Tinkering ...

Per Protofits:
PRO Cloak - Duration 40s, Regen 20s
ADV Cloak - Duration 30s, Regen 15s
STD Cloak - Duration 15s, Regen 10s

Pretty sure this means it takes 20 seconds for prototype cloak fully regenerates its 40 seconds of reserves ...

Edit 2: Fixed.

Exactly. Makes lower tier scanners more viable instead of useless.

I wonder if it would be good to suggest the gal logi racial bonuses change from scan precision to reserves & regen bonuses with your new model?

Why do you think it's harder for newbros? I personally think it's clearer than what we have now.

Is this different from the time where you simulated hamsters falling off of tall buildings?

If I am correct, they chipped their teeth at worse, although, I could always be wrong.

Stop being the party pooper of the thread King.

Because scanners are progressively more expensive and resource intensive. Makes practical sense to me that the ones capable of detecting dampened units are pricier and tougher to fit than ones which cannot.

As meta & price go up, precision gets stronger. To me, this is an easy-to-understand relationship.

Interesting I find the opposite. I think it's really clear if the same named scanner has the same precision across tiers and it's the duration and regen that change between tiers.

First, a newbro won't have proto scanners and may be frustrated and confused why he can't scan some fits. Precision, profile and rings are not very clear to any newbro whereas duration and regen changes have obvious impacts.

Second, I forget but I'm sure I had something very relevant, will update when it comes to me.

Third, we are making it very similar to cloaks and the main difference between cloak tiers is duration/regen. I like symmetry :)

Fourth, I want there to be a practical use case for standard scanners, which there really isn't currently.

Errr. Agree to disagree?

I'm with you on #4 though. Basic Scanners currently scan at 46dB, sufficient to pickup undampened Heavies and Commandos. This could be lowered to 41dB, which would be sufficient to also pickup undampened Logis and Assaults.

I don't think it beyond the grasp of newbros to realize that the really squishy suits are somewhat faster than other suits and better at ducking scans. If they weren't, why would anyone use them? "Assassins", "Rogues", "Scouts" are fairly common archetypes; I think DUST newbros can appreciate the need for effective stealth and understand it an investment would be required to overcome it.

Perhaps some others could weigh in on our disagreement and provide some input...

I think couples counseling is a great idea .

Agreed to disagree :)

One thing to think about is equipment had lower profiles as the tier goes up and scanning equipment is really useful. If you are worried about standard scanners scanning scouts I think with the new system you could limit how often they could do it and it would encourage the use of dampners in pubs more.

I'm just putting out one idea I think would work well. The majority of what you have is good. The key is active scanning not click and shoot or rep stuff while everyone stays scanned.

I.e were debating a small part of the main solid idea.

What about triples counseling?

Children's table this way:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=913832#post913832