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Adipem Nothi wrote:

@ CPM2

For those following campaigns, who do you guys like? I'm currently leaning toward:

#1 - Cross (Logi)
#2 - Zaria (Logi)
#3 - Pokey (Commando)
#4 - Talos (Assault)
#5 - Demens (Assault)
#6 - Ripley (Assault)
#7 - Delt -or- Dennie (undecided)

1. I really like the idea of Bamm, but I'm concerned about the potential for absenteeism. Do you think my concerns are misplaced?

2. Also, the list above feels pretty MedFrame heavy. Barring Delt and possibly Cross, I don't know that any of these players can speak competently on the subject of Scouts or EWAR interplay/balance as it relates to Scouts. That said, these are all bright individuals who (unlike a few other candidates) I believe are able and willing to be affected by informed feedback from others.

3. And as a final concern, could electing a panel of bright non-Scouts potentially do Scouts undue harm? Assume for the sake of illustration that Aeon, Tesfa and Kirk were all elected to CPM. After months of Scout under-performance, Rattati opines that it's time to either rethink EWAR or buff the Scout class. Aeon, Tesfa and Kirk are confused and outraged. They join in ardent objection and put their heads together in hopes of finding good reasons why not. Ultimately, Rattati is not swayed. Shocker. But pick any three above, assume ill intent, and set their minds upon common goal; is it not possible that Rattati might then be swayed? See Zatara circa December 2014.

Scratch 3. An underdeveloped and probably stupid thought. A panel of clever CPM is superior to the alternative, regardless of what may or may not come.

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Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2015.07.16 19:57:00 - [40831] - Quote chill penguin wrote: Seriously, who here thinks that vahzz can outrage blitz? Is outraging blitz a challenge? Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Gallente Guide
Dreis ShadowWeaver Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 5	Posted - 2015.07.16 19:57:00 - [40832] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Hee hee hee... Pretend I was running for CPM. Do your little analytical thingy on me. If I were 21 and could afford to go to FanFest I would totally run for CPM. But alas, such things are not to be. Isn't the trip to FanFest paid for by CCP? Then again, CCP didn't pay for the CPM to go to the last FanFest, did they...? Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Recruitment requests received: 20
Dreis ShadowWeaver Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 5	Posted - 2015.07.16 19:59:00 - [40833] - Quote chill penguin wrote: Seriously, who here thinks that vahzz can outrage blitz? To be honest, I've heard Blitz FC and he wasn't nearly as angry as he has been made out to be. This was the worst raging I've ever witnessed first-hand. Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Recruitment requests received: 20
chill penguin Bragian Order 193	Posted - 2015.07.16 20:01:00 - [40834] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: chill penguin wrote: Seriously, who here thinks that vahzz can outrage blitz? To be honest, I've heard Blitz FC and he wasn't nearly as angry as he has been made out to be. This was the worst raging I've ever witnessed first-hand. I've said worse. A True Slayer can only be born in the pits of Molden Heath
chill penguin Bragian Order 193	Posted - 2015.07.16 20:02:00 - [40835] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: chill penguin wrote: Seriously, who here thinks that vahzz can outrage blitz? Is outraging blitz a challenge? Are you making it a challenge? A True Slayer can only be born in the pits of Molden Heath
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.07.16 20:07:00 - [40836] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Hee hee hee... Pretend I was running for CPM. Do your little analytical thingy on me. If I were 21 and could afford to go to FanFest I would totally run for CPM. But alas, such things are not to be. Think age of majority in the US is 18. Also think that CCP pays your airfare. Just need a passport. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2015.07.16 20:19:00 - [40837] - Quote CPM2 aren't going to Iceland. Or China. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Gallente Guide
chill penguin Bragian Order 196	Posted - 2015.07.16 20:24:00 - [40838] - Quote They are going to the internet, via skype or something A True Slayer can only be born in the pits of Molden Heath
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.07.16 20:24:00 - [40839] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: You kno. . I'd vote for aeon Edit: wait, no no I wouldn't Edit2: well maybe he'd be worth the vote Edit 3: nope Serious note, didn't think he was running. Did he change his mind again? This is how I felt about him a long while ago. After a certain point you have to put your foot down and just say no. The dude has serious issues with self control, lets his emotions get the best of him, and has all but said that he's done with Dust before. I think he's either the worst candidate for the job, or very low on the list. I don't care how hard he says he's working to self improve, you can't redeem past actions like that when it comes to a leadership position. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.07.16 20:41:00 - [40840] - Quote @ Ghost You only need to be 18 and have a passport. I don't even think you HAVE to be at FF. Do take your studies into account though. In my experience, you only get busier throughout college. But if you honestly are willing to make the sacrifice I would vote for you. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

One Eyed King Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.07.16 20:46:00 - [40841] - Quote Last year, I only knew of a few people for which I felt comfortable voting. This year it feels like there are more people I want to vote for than there are votes I have to give. @ Dries If Ripley doesn't come across as mature to you, I would suggest that you are only paying attention to his humorous posts. Do some searching of his posts and read some of his real analysis. I don't always agree with him, but he has a good head on his shoulders. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Spademan 6	Posted - 2015.07.16 20:55:00 - [40842] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Spademan wrote: ^ Me too #vain Irish. Kill on sight. Would it help if I told you that I have a profoundly English ancestry? Or is being the better nationality completely unforgivable? What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Haerr Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3	Posted - 2015.07.16 20:57:00 - [40843] - Quote EVE: Gunjack VR 3rd person turn-based Duck Hunt
Haerr Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 3	Posted - 2015.07.16 20:58:00 - [40844] - Quote NES Zapper light gun not included
chill penguin Bragian Order 197	Posted - 2015.07.16 21:03:00 - [40845] - Quote Spademan wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Spademan wrote: ^ Me too #vain Irish. Kill on sight. Would it help if I told you that I have a profoundly English ancestry? Or is being the better nationality completely unforgivable? I am actually Scottish, my family has our own castle in Scotland. I am serious lol I am just stuck in the States A True Slayer can only be born in the pits of Molden Heath
Llast 326 An Arkhos 7	Posted - 2015.07.16 21:12:00 - [40846] - Quote Haerr wrote: EVE: Gunjack VR 3rd person turn-based Duck Hunt Damn I'd play that Seriously MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2015.07.16 21:30:00 - [40847] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: @ CPM2 For those following campaigns, who do you guys like? I'm currently leaning toward: #1 - Cross (Logi) #2 - Zaria (Logi) #3 - Pokey (Commando) #4 - Talos (Assault) #5 - Demens (Assault) #6 - Ripley (Assault) #7 - Delt -or- Dennie (undecided) 1. I really like the idea of Bamm, but I'm concerned about the potential for absenteeism. Do you think my concerns are misplaced? 2. Also, the list above feels pretty MedFrame heavy. Barring Delt and possibly Cross, I don't know that any of these players can speak competently on the subject of Scouts or EWAR interplay/balance as it relates to Scouts. That said, these are all bright individuals who (unlike a few other candidates) I believe are able and willing to be affected by informed feedback from others. 3. And as a final concern, could electing a panel of bright non-Scouts potentially do Scouts undue harm? Assume for the sake of illustration that Aeon, Tesfa and Kirk were all elected to CPM. After months of Scout under-performance, Rattati opines that it's time to either rethink EWAR or buff the Scout class. Aeon, Tesfa and Kirk are confused and outraged. They join in ardent objection and put their heads together in hopes of finding good reasons why not. Ultimately, Rattati is not swayed. Shocker. But pick any three above, assume ill intent, and set their minds upon common goal; is it not possible that Rattati might then be swayed? See Zatara circa December 2014. Scratch 3. An underdeveloped and probably stupid thought. A panel of clever CPM is superior to the alternative, regardless of what may or may not come. First thanks! Second, I feel it relevant to offer some added information regarding rolls. Listed in the same order as above. 1. Spent most time in Logi correct. However I've been playing scout since Codex (have Gal, Cal, and Min, proto'ed... I've even stabbed both Jace and Ru before though that's like once out of 200 times or something ) and I've run more Heavy (Minmando, Min Sent, Am Sent, Gal Sent) during Warlords than any other single role. In addition I have proto HAVs, ADS and at least something into every other suit/race combo in the game. 2. Zaria, the TL;DR is pretty much "see above" however with a differing weighting of rolls. For example Zaria runs more Commando and Assault than I do, and somewhat less Sentinel as far as I'm aware, but the point is that with over 5k hours invested into the game, and the SP that goes with it, Zaria like myself is best classified as "Omni solider" rather than a single role. 3. Pokey, he does love his Commando (Gal with PLC is a frequent fav) but he's also spent vast amounts of time doing vehicle and AV stuff and runs test fits/games pretty frequently, he's more likely to ask "what do I need to test so I can understand this" then "what do I already know about the subject from my standard playtime". The others listed I lack the direct experience with to comment on in a meaningful way, save two quick mentions. Delt, who I do not think is unknown around these parts so I likely can't add more than is already understood. Dennie, who's value to the CPM 1 has primarily not been linked to in game balance considerations (as he freely states himself) but who has proven himself to be an asset in other aspects of the CPM role. Regarding your concern #2, I want to go on record reiterating that input on eWar and how it effects various forms of stealth and scout play is something I'm actively open to feedback on. I do play around with it and have read the sheets linked on the first page here more than once as well as played with some of my own numbers time to time (such as our discussions here while I was hammering out the logi proposal) but I run most of my scouts without cloaks or heavy damping, especially my Minja Knifers, which I know is not the standard so the perceptions of those who focus more on damps and eWar is something I value highly. Context - As ever my views are based on my direct experience with the mechanics and individuals in question and reflects the personal intent (some may say 'agenda' or 'bias') towards sustaining a CPM context in which I would be most effective and which would focus on feedback and balance more than personal inclination, emotiveness, or sub-faction advocacy. Cheers, Cross EDIT; PS - I've never had any trouble getting along with Ripply during the discussions we've had about the game, even when our views do not align. That speaks highly of him in my book, but I lack more intimate knowledge of his play context so have omitted any comment above. CPM 1 mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2015.07.16 21:39:00 - [40848] - Quote Just something I'd like to add to that, Cross - You comment about the candidates that you know well that they're not specifically one role. I would like to point out that this is going to be true of pretty much every candidate. Few people devotedly stick to and use one class - in a lot of cases, it's hard to tell what they actually main if you look hard enough. As an example, I know Talos may indeed mostly run assault now but previously I know he was a logi, and I believe he's also got ADS experience. Very few candidates restrict their experience to one role. I imagine that the 'omni' classification applies to most of them. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Gallente Guide
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 20	Posted - 2015.07.16 22:02:00 - [40849] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Just something I'd like to add to that, Cross - You comment about the candidates that you know well that they're not specifically one role. I would like to point out that this is going to be true of pretty much every candidate. Few people devotedly stick to and use one class - in a lot of cases, it's hard to tell what they actually main if you look hard enough. As an example, I know Talos may indeed mostly run assault now but previously I know he was a logi, and I believe he's also got ADS experience. Very few candidates restrict their experience to one role. I imagine that the 'omni' classification applies to most of them. Kind of concerned that this is the only way you guys are looking at this not to mention that all of the candidates have put forwards the same regurgitated bullshit thus far to 'secure the vote of the common man'. Not a single CPM actually stands out this time around which is concerning. Leaving me personally ambivalent about the whole thing and simply voting based on who I like the most. Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2015.07.16 22:02:00 - [40850] - Quote Campaign propaganda. Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Gallente Guide

chill penguin Bragian Order 199	Posted - 2015.07.16 22:12:00 - [40851] - Quote Dang, trying to get the hamsters on your side. Good play, Ark, good play. A True Slayer can only be born in the pits of Molden Heath
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2015.07.16 22:12:00 - [40852] - Quote Well True, I'm the same guy I was last time only with about a years more experience in both the game and as a CPM. If my plantform last year garnered a vote then there's even more reason that it should now. If my method/focus on feedback and testing over personal representation, and my primary goal of long term growth for the game (key in that at this point is a port to new hardware) doesn't motivate you then I'm likely not your guy. Honestly I think that under the CPM system a role based focus isn't the optimal way to approach elections as while bias is - of course - possible a CPM should be mitigating that in themselves and focused on transmitting community feedback, not intentionally pushing for a 'classist' style agenda. Until/unless CCP defines a system in which there is a seat for every role, and clear definitions of what constitutes each, it is in my view detrimental to have candidates for CPM focused on the well being of one role above others. 0.02 ISK ~Cross CPM 1 mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 11	Posted - 2015.07.16 22:17:00 - [40853] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Just something I'd like to add to that, Cross - You comment about the candidates that you know well that they're not specifically one role. I would like to point out that this is going to be true of pretty much every candidate. Few people devotedly stick to and use one class - in a lot of cases, it's hard to tell what they actually main if you look hard enough. As an example, I know Talos may indeed mostly run assault now but previously I know he was a logi, and I believe he's also got ADS experience. Very few candidates restrict their experience to one role. I imagine that the 'omni' classification applies to most of them. Kind of concerned that this is the only way you guys are looking at this not to mention that all of the candidates have put forwards the same regurgitated bullshit thus far to 'secure the vote of the common man'. Not a single CPM actually stands out this time around which is concerning. Leaving me personally ambivalent about the whole thing and simply voting based on who I like the most. I don't think it is the ONLY thing being considered. If it was Shotty's list would have so many medium frames and so no scouts. I think there is plenty to go on, especially since I know you have been around the forums awhile. I certainly haven't read any campaign posts as they all end up the same, but will base my opinions on past experiences, like when I watched you and Pokey discuss tanks several months back. It doesn't take much to discern those who are able to bilaterally communicate in a reasonable manner and show some creative ability. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2015.07.16 22:27:00 - [40854] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: If my plantform Is this your final form? Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Gallente Guide
chill penguin Bragian Order 200	Posted - 2015.07.16 22:28:00 - [40855] - Quote I always knew Cross was a plant.... A True Slayer can only be born in the pits of Molden Heath
Dreis ShadowWeaver Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 5	Posted - 2015.07.16 22:30:00 - [40856] - Quote Ok, so I'm at the stage where I'd like nothing more than to smash my controller. What do I do? Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel My Minja Blog Recruitment requests received: 20
XxBlazikenxX Random Gunz Rise Of Legion. 1	Posted - 2015.07.16 22:30:00 - [40857] - Quote Spademan wrote: VAHZZ wrote: Do you realize you are all under a ruse by me? Do you realise that I'm secretly CCP Rattati? That explains a lot of things. CCP Archduke is the best GM Founder of The Armory
Spademan 6	Posted - 2015.07.16 22:33:00 - [40858] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Ok, so I'm at the stage where I'd like nothing more than to smash my controller. What do I do? Press until better. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
Arkena Wyrnspire Negative-Feedback. Negative-Feedback 24	Posted - 2015.07.16 22:39:00 - [40859] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Ok, so I'm at the stage where I'd like nothing more than to smash my controller. What do I do? Why? Arkena Wyrnspire aka "British Khorne" - Cross Atu Gallente Guide
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.07.16 22:47:00 - [40860] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Cross Atu wrote: If my plantform Is this your final form? Cross IRL Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.



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