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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2015.06.24 20:36:00 -
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So after turning off DUST after a particularly irritating PC, I took my hand to writing for a little while to let the rage ebb a bit. I just sorta went with the flow, but I sorta like where it's going. Do let me know what you think!
Azel leant against the cold stone wall, clutching his arms to conserve heat. Icy breath emerged from him and the three other adolescents who stood around him. Their features were barely visible in the all-engulfing darkness, which would play to their advantage. It wasnGÇÖt completely necessary for the Rotten Snakes to operate solely at night, but they seemed to perform best at that time. Concealing their identities wasnGÇÖt a significant concern for them: it was unlikely that the Watch would trouble themselves with searching the Farrows for a few dirty urchins who robbed an irrelevant drunk or labourer. Occasionally though, there would be a thorough investigation and purge following the ignorant mugging or murder of a high-profile aristocrat, who undoubtedly would have been returning from a night of enjoying the brothels of the Farrows, the likes of which would not be found on the respectable east side of the Nenther River. Nevertheless, a group of hooded, concealed faces tended to strike a certain fear into people, and this was why the Rotten Snakes wore makeshift bandanas around the lower parts of their faces when they went to work.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.06.24 20:38:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Been replaying Fallout New Vegas and it is ridiculously to be anything but good in that. I beat a cripple to death and gained karma. Sounds like something you would do.
You'll make a good Viking.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
7
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Posted - 2015.06.24 20:43:00 -
[38523] - Quote
Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:So after turning off DUST after a particularly irritating PC, I took my hand to writing for a little while to let the rage ebb a bit. I just sorta went with the flow, but I sorta like where it's going. Do let me know what you think! Azel leant against the cold stone wall, clutching his arms to conserve heat. Icy breath emerged from him and the three other adolescents who stood around him. Their features were barely visible in the all-engulfing darkness, which would play to their advantage. It wasnGÇÖt completely necessary for the Rotten Snakes to operate solely at night, but they seemed to perform best at that time. Concealing their identities wasnGÇÖt a significant concern for them: it was unlikely that the Watch would trouble themselves with searching the Farrows for a few dirty urchins who robbed an irrelevant drunk or labourer. Occasionally though, there would be a thorough investigation and purge following the ignorant mugging or murder of a high-profile aristocrat, who undoubtedly would have been returning from a night of enjoying the brothels of the Farrows, the likes of which would not be found on the respectable east side of the Nenther River. Nevertheless, a group of hooded, concealed faces tended to strike a certain fear into people, and this was why the Rotten Snakes wore makeshift bandanas around the lower parts of their faces when they went to work. Nice choice of outlet
I'm not going to go all Internet Author Critique on you. this little snip grabbed my attention though, left me wondering where, what, and so forthGǪ enough that I would want to read more to see where it is going.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
7
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Posted - 2015.06.24 20:52:00 -
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On the subject of the PLCGǪ Last night had a match where three of us stayed vs ten or more reds. Dystopia, someone else, and myself. Hilarious matchGǪ we actually held more points then them for the first bit. I took up residence at DGǪ they ended up throwing a lot of resources to dislodge me. Dystopia was certainly facing the same thing at the point they took. Saw a few kills in the feed so I know they were coming at them at the same time. Other suit was also a scoutGǪ they must have been holding the third point. Eventually they dislodged us all and we spent some time randomly hitting points and causing general paranoia. Eventually we ended up redlinedGǪ kinda. We could have left but they had two HAVs a couple LAVs and a DS outGǪ so no point in taking the points. All of us pulled out the PLCs and just went to townGǪ So much fun. Actually took out the Gunner in the DS with one shot and finished the DS with the next at one point. Got a 1/2 mill payout and 10 mil SP for all the entertainment.
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
4
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Posted - 2015.06.24 21:03:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote:On the subject of the PLCGǪ Last night had a match where three of us stayed vs ten or more reds. Dystopia, someone else, and myself. Hilarious matchGǪ we actually held more points then them for the first bit. I took up residence at DGǪ they ended up throwing a lot of resources to dislodge me. Dystopia was certainly facing the same thing at the point they took. Saw a few kills in the feed so I know they were coming at them at the same time. Other suit was also a scoutGǪ they must have been holding the third point. Eventually they dislodged us all and we spent some time randomly hitting points and causing general paranoia. Eventually we ended up redlinedGǪ kinda. We could have left but they had two HAVs a couple LAVs and a DS outGǪ so no point in taking the points. All of us pulled out the PLCs and just went to townGǪ So much fun. Actually took out the Gunner in the DS with one shot and finished the DS with the next at one point. Got a 1/2 mill payout and 10 mil SP for all the entertainment. 10 mil SP?!?!
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.06.24 21:07:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Llast 326 wrote:On the subject of the PLCGǪ Last night had a match where three of us stayed vs ten or more reds. Dystopia, someone else, and myself. Hilarious matchGǪ we actually held more points then them for the first bit. I took up residence at DGǪ they ended up throwing a lot of resources to dislodge me. Dystopia was certainly facing the same thing at the point they took. Saw a few kills in the feed so I know they were coming at them at the same time. Other suit was also a scoutGǪ they must have been holding the third point. Eventually they dislodged us all and we spent some time randomly hitting points and causing general paranoia. Eventually we ended up redlinedGǪ kinda. We could have left but they had two HAVs a couple LAVs and a DS outGǪ so no point in taking the points. All of us pulled out the PLCs and just went to townGǪ So much fun. Actually took out the Gunner in the DS with one shot and finished the DS with the next at one point. Got a 1/2 mill payout and 10 mil SP for all the entertainment. 10 mil SP?!?!
Either mistake or a glitch i need to exploit!
GÖ¢ The Humanoid Cyclone Stampede GÖ¢
Scouts United
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Spademan
6
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Posted - 2015.06.24 21:13:00 -
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LIast you'd best be giving up your secrets.
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
7
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Posted - 2015.06.24 21:26:00 -
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VAHZZ wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Llast 326 wrote:On the subject of the PLCGǪ Last night had a match where three of us stayed vs ten or more reds. Dystopia, someone else, and myself. Hilarious matchGǪ we actually held more points then them for the first bit. I took up residence at DGǪ they ended up throwing a lot of resources to dislodge me. Dystopia was certainly facing the same thing at the point they took. Saw a few kills in the feed so I know they were coming at them at the same time. Other suit was also a scoutGǪ they must have been holding the third point. Eventually they dislodged us all and we spent some time randomly hitting points and causing general paranoia. Eventually we ended up redlinedGǪ kinda. We could have left but they had two HAVs a couple LAVs and a DS outGǪ so no point in taking the points. All of us pulled out the PLCs and just went to townGǪ So much fun. Actually took out the Gunner in the DS with one shot and finished the DS with the next at one point. Got a 1/2 mill payout and 10 mil SP for all the entertainment. 10 mil SP?!?! Either mistake or a glitch i need to exploit! Typo 10 thousand
MOAR Ladders
SpadeGǪ Remember your Warbarge
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.06.24 21:42:00 -
[38529] - Quote
Dammit Last T^T...I was hoping to get more SP so I wouldn't have to respec...
GÖ¢ The Humanoid Cyclone Stampede GÖ¢
Scouts United
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.06.24 22:59:00 -
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UI looks sharp. Do basic meds already have 2 EQ or is this an upcoming change?
(I like the idea).
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
4
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Posted - 2015.06.24 23:13:00 -
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Hey Adi, are you a director in NN?
How do you recruit people? Who's the Personal Manager? Would things be awkward for NN in PC because your CEO isn't around?
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.06.24 23:14:00 -
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Dev Blog wrote: ... team deploy is finally here. In the Squad Finder you can now create 3 types of squads, a Fireteam, a Squad and a Platoon. Not only is this good for veterans in Factional Warfare and Planetary Conquest, but also will reduce the squad size in Public Matches, hopefully making a few battles less lopsided.
Excellent news. This should improve pub quality.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1
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Posted - 2015.06.24 23:19:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Dev Blog wrote: ... team deploy is finally here. In the Squad Finder you can now create 3 types of squads, a Fireteam, a Squad and a Platoon. Not only is this good for veterans in Factional Warfare and Planetary Conquest, but also will reduce the squad size in Public Matches, hopefully making a few battles less lopsided.
Excellent news. This should improve pub quality.
I just hope you can select the type of squad when not using squad finder. I worry though...
Overlord of Broman
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.24 23:23:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: 1. Hey Adi, are you a director in NN? 2. How do you recruit people? 3. Who's the Personal Manager? 4. Would things be awkward for NN in PC because your CEO isn't around?
1. Yes. 2. We don't; not to say that we won't, but we haven't yet had the need. 3. Any Bastard can vouch for a recruit. 4. The vision for NN is more akin to a collective than a corp. Musturd's in touch should we need him, but it is his expectation that we pave our own way.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.06.24 23:28:00 -
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Varoth Drac wrote:So, raiding. Not the ideal of being able to ignore 24 hour waits, but something.
So basically, use CP to attack a district.
Equip BPOs.
Ignore objectives, unless for baiting purposes.
Try to bait and kill enemy assets.
Hopefully enemies will equip expensive gear in order to defend the district, without realising that you aren't interested in the district but just after fat loot.
Sound feasible? Would this be more profitable than a pub match?
Edit: must not use Apex, as they count as proto for payment purposes. Unless you want to be all lovey dovey and give your enemies free isk. I'd hoped for each district to have "attack window" for Raids. This way, if 16 guys were online and wanted to raid someone, they could simply open the star map and find someone to raid. If Raids are indeed required to be scheduled a full day in advance, they'll be less effective at curtailing over-expansion. I'm sure the PC Think Tank had good reasons for this, but it isn't (in my opinion) ideal.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.06.24 23:32:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:So, raiding. Not the ideal of being able to ignore 24 hour waits, but something.
What were you hoping for, the ability to instantly drop a team on some unsuspecting corp and grab their stuff? In reality though... I was hoping for a window of attack during their district timers with a say 30min warning to the corp. ^ This would've been a better design, I think. Give the little corps an opportunity to hit the big corps while their attention is focused elsewhere. This would be an efficient way to prevent over-expansion.
J0LLY R0G3R wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Will NN get involved in PC once Warlords 1.2 drops? We plan to loot and plunder the unexpecting. Aka raide people who get too fat for their reach
^ Exactly this.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Ares 514
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1
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Posted - 2015.06.24 23:54:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:So, raiding. Not the ideal of being able to ignore 24 hour waits, but something.
So basically, use CP to attack a district.
Equip BPOs.
Ignore objectives, unless for baiting purposes.
Try to bait and kill enemy assets.
Hopefully enemies will equip expensive gear in order to defend the district, without realising that you aren't interested in the district but just after fat loot.
Sound feasible? Would this be more profitable than a pub match?
Edit: must not use Apex, as they count as proto for payment purposes. Unless you want to be all lovey dovey and give your enemies free isk. I'd hoped for each district to have "attack window" for Raids. This way, if 16 guys were online and wanted to raid someone, they could simply open the star map and find someone to raid. If Raids are indeed required to be scheduled a full day in advance, they'll be more like "regular attacks" than "surprise attacks", and they'll be less effective at curtailing over-expansion and/or as tactical maneuvers. I'm sure the PC Think Tank had good reasons for this, but I think it falls short of the ideal. We'll see :-)
I got on that list to try to provide input. I was never contacted directly but sent in some feedback. I wouldn't blame the think tank on this, to my knowledge they decided to not do raids this release and their reference to them as raids is confusing when they're really talking about clone packs.
Overlord of Broman
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
7
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Posted - 2015.06.25 00:05:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:So, raiding. Not the ideal of being able to ignore 24 hour waits, but something.
So basically, use CP to attack a district.
Equip BPOs.
Ignore objectives, unless for baiting purposes.
Try to bait and kill enemy assets.
Hopefully enemies will equip expensive gear in order to defend the district, without realising that you aren't interested in the district but just after fat loot.
Sound feasible? Would this be more profitable than a pub match?
Edit: must not use Apex, as they count as proto for payment purposes. Unless you want to be all lovey dovey and give your enemies free isk. I'd hoped for each district to have "attack window" for Raids. This way, if 16 guys were online and wanted to raid someone, they could simply open the star map and find someone to raid. If Raids are indeed required to be scheduled a full day in advance, they'll be more like "regular attacks" than "surprise attacks", and they'll be less effective at curtailing over-expansion and/or as tactical maneuvers. I'm sure the PC Think Tank had good reasons for this, but I think it falls short of the ideal. We'll see :-) I got on that list to try to provide input. I was never contacted directly but sent in some feedback. I wouldn't blame the think tank on this, to my knowledge they decided to not do raids this release and their reference to them as raids is confusing when they're really talking about clone packs. ThoughtGǪ (ForewarnedGǪ Llast is at the rum) Corps can set their attack timerGǪ It can be changed for command pointsGǪ stuff like that What if a Raid Window existed but was automatically x time from Attack timer. Raid window would have a wider timeframe, but not take the district?
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.25 00:12:00 -
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Ares 514 wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Varoth Drac wrote:So, raiding. Not the ideal of being able to ignore 24 hour waits, but something.
So basically, use CP to attack a district.
Equip BPOs.
Ignore objectives, unless for baiting purposes.
Try to bait and kill enemy assets.
Hopefully enemies will equip expensive gear in order to defend the district, without realising that you aren't interested in the district but just after fat loot.
Sound feasible? Would this be more profitable than a pub match?
Edit: must not use Apex, as they count as proto for payment purposes. Unless you want to be all lovey dovey and give your enemies free isk. I'd hoped for each district to have "attack window" for Raids. This way, if 16 guys were online and wanted to raid someone, they could simply open the star map and find someone to raid. If Raids are indeed required to be scheduled a full day in advance, they'll be more like "regular attacks" than "surprise attacks", and they'll be less effective at curtailing over-expansion and/or as tactical maneuvers. I'm sure the PC Think Tank had good reasons for this, but I think it falls short of the ideal. We'll see :-) I got on that list to try to provide input. I was never contacted directly but sent in some feedback. I wouldn't blame the think tank on this, to my knowledge they decided to not do raids this release and their reference to them as raids is confusing when they're really talking about clone packs.
Long-term, it is probably better for PC 2.0 to first be the new shiny and exciting thing. Maybe they're downplaying Raids for the time being to give the Conquest Model an opportunity to take hold and flourish. Once everybody's done fighting, all blue'd up and complacent ... well, that'd be the best time to release the Kraken. Can't very well release the Kraken right up front. Have to build up to that. Lol.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
4
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Posted - 2015.06.25 00:18:00 -
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Musturd is online right now: get him while you can!
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.25 00:19:00 -
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Llast 326 wrote: What if a Raid Window existed but was automatically x time from Attack timer. Raid window would have a wider timeframe, but not take the district?
Exactly. Say a District's Attack Timer is 21:00. It's Raid Window could be +/- 1 hour (20:00 to 22:00).
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Spademan
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Posted - 2015.06.25 00:20:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Musturd is online right now: get him while you can! Must use at least an Ultra Ball.
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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Dreis Shadowweaver
0uter.Heaven
4
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Posted - 2015.06.25 00:23:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Llast 326 wrote: What if a Raid Window existed but was automatically x time from Attack timer. Raid window would have a wider timeframe, but not take the district?
Exactly. Say a District's Attack Timer is 21:00. It's Raid Window could be +/- 1 hour (20:00 to 22:00). I' just thinking how awkward and annoying that would be for the districts' owners though...
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Llast 326
An Arkhos
7
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Posted - 2015.06.25 00:44:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Llast 326 wrote: What if a Raid Window existed but was automatically x time from Attack timer. Raid window would have a wider timeframe, but not take the district?
Exactly. Say a District's Attack Timer is 21:00. It's Raid Window could be +/- 1 hour (20:00 to 22:00). I' just thinking how awkward and annoying that would be for the districts' owners though... I know
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.06.25 01:14:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Musturd is online right now: get him while you can!
I see him a lot, i missed a chance to squad with him and Sontie and Prophet and Duncan the Idaho the other day and i yell at myself still.
GÖ¢ The Humanoid Cyclone Stampede GÖ¢
Scouts United
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VAHZZ
Corrosive Synergy No Context
3
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Posted - 2015.06.25 01:17:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Musturd is online right now: get him while you can! Must use at least an Ultra Ball.
Master Ball, and you must bring plenty, because even it does not guarantee a catch on him.
GÖ¢ The Humanoid Cyclone Stampede GÖ¢
Scouts United
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
10
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Posted - 2015.06.25 01:29:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Llast 326 wrote: What if a Raid Window existed but was automatically x time from Attack timer. Raid window would have a wider timeframe, but not take the district?
Exactly. Say a District's Attack Timer is 21:00. It's Raid Window could be +/- 1 hour (20:00 to 22:00). I' just thinking how awkward and annoying that would be for the districts' owners though... If unreasonably so, then make it +1 hr, -1 hr, or +/- 0.5 hrs.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven
4
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Posted - 2015.06.25 01:52:00 -
[38548] - Quote
Adipem Nothi wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Llast 326 wrote: What if a Raid Window existed but was automatically x time from Attack timer. Raid window would have a wider timeframe, but not take the district?
Exactly. Say a District's Attack Timer is 21:00. It's Raid Window could be +/- 1 hour (20:00 to 22:00). I' just thinking how awkward and annoying that would be for the districts' owners though... If unreasonably so, then make it +1 hr, -1 hr, or +/- 0.5 hrs. More surprise. Less 24hr warning. That would mean that the District owners would probably have to prepare for a potential raid every single day. I suppose it would be like preparing for a no-show, but even worse.
I'm sure it would be for for the raiders, but it would absolutely suck ass for the defenders. You'd have to devote an hour every day to just... waiting.
Might as well just keep the same 24 hour warning. What real reason is there to have anything different?
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Caldari blood, Matari heart <3
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2015.06.25 02:16:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Llast 326 wrote: What if a Raid Window existed but was automatically x time from Attack timer. Raid window would have a wider timeframe, but not take the district?
Exactly. Say a District's Attack Timer is 21:00. It's Raid Window could be +/- 1 hour (20:00 to 22:00). I' just thinking how awkward and annoying that would be for the districts' owners though... If unreasonably so, then make it +1 hr, -1 hr, or +/- 0.5 hrs. More surprise. Less 24hr warning. That would mean that the District owners would probably have to prepare for a potential raid every single day. I suppose it would be like preparing for a no-show, but even worse. I'm sure it would be for for the raiders, but it would absolutely suck ass for the defenders. You'd have to devote an hour every day to just... waiting. Might as well just keep the same 24 hour warning. What real reason is there to have anything different? Where there's reward, there should also be risk. Right?
A District Holder has a chance to turn a profit from selling clones every single day. I don't think it unreasonable for him to be exposed to the risk of a raid every single day. In practice, the number of districts online at any given time likely far exceeds the number of available raid parties. Dust lacks the required number of players needed to constantly harass all district holders.
Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
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Vyuru
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.25 02:18:00 -
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Super jazzed and excited with the PLC right now.
I've been using it alot lately, and while I still miss a fair share, I'm getting alot better.
Last game the enemy team pulled out a couple of tanks. I got one with 2x flux grenades and a PLC straight up the tailpipe just as the second flux went off.
I tried the same trick on the second tank, he pulled forward causing my first flux to miss, I got him with the second flux and a PLC shot. He had enough hp to make a run for it, I only had time for one shot. I took a running leap for some elevation, took a rough potshot at where I guessed he'd be, and let fly with the PLC.
Up floated the +150 about 3-4 seconds later!!! :D
I don't know, but I'm guessing he was 80+ meters out by that time.
Super lucky shot, but still, super excited about it. That was one of my best shots right there.
I think Min scout with a PLC is becoming one of my new favorites. Super versatile in the running around hacking things, while packing enough firepower to deal with installations, vehicles, and other suits.
I'm thinking about swapping out the NKs though. I like how lethal they are up close, but I am limited in the ranged attack department. But running PLC+NK also encourages me to go with a more hit and run strategy that tends to work pretty well. I kinda think if I swapped out to a BP, or SMG, that I'd be tempted to try to stand and fight more often. Which would work vs most scouts, but fail badly vs assaults and the like.
Tempted to keep my Minnie as a hit and run general mayhem fit, and the other scouts like the Amarr or Gallente as more of a skirmisher fit. |
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