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Cross Atu wrote:

Henrietta Unknown wrote:

If late-joining players didn't have a huge reduction on pay, I'd stay in those matches. After all, I didn't ask to be put in a match under way for the sake of easy profit.

I could go 1/5 or 9/6 and still get 180K in both cases. So why even try?

Quite agree, the reduction in earnings for being added to a match later in play really reduces the incentive to play that match through to the end (or to play hard if one does stay in the match).

This contributes, in part, to the resistance many players (my self included) feel toward being deployed into a match already in progress. The negative feedback on that front has been very consistent and is considered in the filling of matches.
When then just feeds back into the urge some players have to leave a match if they don't feel like they'll win, because when some mercs leave there is not longer a reason to solidly expect that they will be replaced with others and fighting against long odds is not fun for quite a few people.

It all feeds into itself, but even in a somewhat murky context it seem pretty clear that changing the payouts so you aren't getting diminished earnings if deployed into a battle in progress seems like a solidly positive change.
One I think it's worth bringing up again. o7

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Idea!

spitballing ...

* Underway matches are listed under Special Contract, as was observed during the Anomaly Event.
* Provided slots are available, players can elect to accept a contract to join either side of an underway battle.
* The current "Security Status" is displayed for each contract; the lower the security, the higher the contract risk.
* High-Risk Contracts pay an increased EOM premium; Low-Risk Contracts pay a decreased premium.
* Security Status is a function of Mu disparity, headcount disparity and match progress.
* Extremely low security contracts may pay a "suicide bonus" or "savior bonus" depending upon match outcome.
* Contracts displayed in orange indicate that a corpmate is known to be fighting in the affected battle.

... / spitballing

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VAHZZ Liquid.Hound 3	Posted - 2015.06.23 08:09:00 - [38461] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: VAHZZ wrote: Shotty, you have some damn good ideas, I may need to stroll through the feedback section now. Also, I am just going to leave this here. Most of the time, I'm recycling other people's good ideas :-) All my petitions are recycled. Tomorrow, I am actually going to recycle another idea, but not a petition. It would be cool if we had varying gravity on each of the planets we fight on. I know the ones we currently have are all the same class, but I think it would be cool. Too tired to coherently think it out right now, I'll edit or just post a new post here tomorrow. GÖ¢ Soon, we shall meet again, in a galaxy far, far away. GÖ¢ *Scouts United*
J0LLY R0G3R Negative-Feedback. 3	Posted - 2015.06.23 16:16:00 - [38462] - Quote That event will be pretty easy. Probably a few people call in a tank at beginning of match. One lap around the field. Back to redline recall. Leave. Find next match. 25 installations can be done in a day. XD TheYoutube XD
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2	Posted - 2015.06.23 16:40:00 - [38463] - Quote Planetside 2 is here!!! \o/ Glory to vanu! Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne! I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Officially team salmon #majestic leaps
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2015.06.23 16:40:00 - [38464] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Powercores aren't happening imminently. :/ CCP Rattati wrote: Powercores are not imminent, but limited tiericide is. Oh good! I don't know how I missed that but that's all I really wanted out of the whole thing, powercores are dandy and all but tiericide is what I'm looking forward to. Dunno what he means by "limited tiericide" though. I believe he means that the slot layouts will be normalized so that STD and ADV now have the same slots as PRO. Meta level of frames will now show progress in the CPU/PG offered and flavor via racial and role paradigms. CPM 1 mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 5	Posted - 2015.06.23 16:42:00 - [38465] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Idea! spitballing ... * Underway matches are listed under Special Contract, as was observed during the Anomaly Event. * Provided slots are available, players can elect to accept a contract to join either side of an underway battle. * The current "Security Status" is displayed for each contract; the lower the security, the higher the contract risk. * High-Risk Contracts pay an increased EOM premium; Low-Risk Contracts pay a decreased premium. * Security Status is a function of Mu disparity, headcount disparity and match progress. * Extremely low security contracts may pay a "suicide bonus" or "savior bonus" depending upon match outcome. * Contracts displayed in orange indicate that a corpmate is known to be fighting in the affected battle. ... / spitballing Would certainly require new code, but the concept is very interesting indeed. I'm too groggy at the moment to try and break the idea in search of possible exploits but I'm sure the rest of the folks here can do that I'm intrigued to see where this goes. CPM 1 mail me your feedback and remember to have fun!
Kaeru Nayiri Ready to Play 1	Posted - 2015.06.23 17:10:00 - [38466] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: Henrietta Unknown wrote: If late-joining players didn't have a huge reduction on pay, I'd stay in those matches. After all, I didn't ask to be put in a match under way for the sake of easy profit. I could go 1/5 or 9/6 and still get 180K in both cases. So why even try? Quite agree, the reduction in earnings for being added to a match later in play really reduces the incentive to play that match through to the end (or to play hard if one does stay in the match). This contributes, in part, to the resistance many players (my self included) feel toward being deployed into a match already in progress. The negative feedback on that front has been very consistent and is considered in the filling of matches. When then just feeds back into the urge some players have to leave a match if they don't feel like they'll win, because when some mercs leave there is not longer a reason to solidly expect that they will be replaced with others and fighting against long odds is not fun for quite a few people. It all feeds into itself, but even in a somewhat murky context it seem pretty clear that changing the payouts so you aren't getting diminished earnings if deployed into a battle in progress seems like a solidly positive change. One I think it's worth bringing up again. o7 https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2772380 Make it happen ! Also I really like Adipem's idea for viewing matches already underway. That is the greatest ! Adipem Nothi wrote: Idea! spitballing ... * Underway matches are listed under Special Contract, as was observed during the Anomaly Event. * Provided slots are available, players can elect to accept a contract to join either side of an underway battle. * The current "Security Status" is displayed for each contract; the lower the security, the higher the contract risk. * High-Risk Contracts pay an increased EOM premium; Low-Risk Contracts pay a decreased premium. * Security Status is a function of Mu disparity, headcount disparity and match progress. * Extremely low security contracts may pay a "suicide bonus" or "savior bonus" depending upon match outcome. * Contracts displayed in orange indicate that a corpmate is known to be fighting in the affected battle. ... / spitballing Know what cannot be known.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2	Posted - 2015.06.23 17:19:00 - [38467] - Quote If planetside is region locked im going to rip my **** off I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Officially team salmon #majestic leaps
Ares 514 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1	Posted - 2015.06.23 17:35:00 - [38468] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2829242#post2829242 Quote: I'm practically giddy Newsletter Event BPO to SKIN refund Progression Planetary Conquest 2.0 A culmination of a lot of hidden work for the last 4 months Overlord of Broman
J0LLY R0G3R Negative-Feedback. 3	Posted - 2015.06.23 19:23:00 - [38469] - Quote noob cavman wrote: If planetside is region locked im going to rip my **** off Think the ps4 stuff is indeed region locked. I know Loadout was. and the beta for ps2 was region locked. XD TheYoutube XD
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.23 19:26:00 - [38470] - Quote noob cavman wrote: If planetside is region locked im going to rip my **** off Its really not that great. Feels very casual. They were giving away free in game currency so you could buy whatever you wanted (before they took it away from you at release) and I still couldn't bother to log on. Sniping is very fun though. That gets an A+. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.

J0LLY R0G3R Negative-Feedback. 3	Posted - 2015.06.23 19:34:00 - [38471] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Planetside 2 is here!!! \o/ Glory to vanu! Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne! how the hell do you not mention the purple spandex? seriously bra XD TheYoutube XD
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2	Posted - 2015.06.23 19:34:00 - [38472] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: noob cavman wrote: If planetside is region locked im going to rip my **** off Its really not that great. Feels very casual. They were giving away free in game currency so you could buy whatever you wanted (before they took it away from you at release) and I still couldn't bother to log on. Sniping is very fun though. That gets an A+. At least the frame rate is stable I dont mind if it's "casual" I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Officially team salmon #majestic leaps
First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.23 20:32:00 - [38473] - Quote Downloading PS2 on my PS4. Didn't care for it when I played it on PC, but I'm willing to give it another try. "The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3	Posted - 2015.06.23 20:39:00 - [38474] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Downloading PS2 on my PS4. Didn't care for it when I played it on PC, but I'm willing to give it another try. If i had PS4 PS2 would be downloaded and id be starting or re-starting, my infiltrator experience. Matari In-Game & Out Infiltrator-Sneaks behind enemy lines doing work no one else can Training again... Lets do this
First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.23 20:45:00 - [38475] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: First Prophet wrote: Downloading PS2 on my PS4. Didn't care for it when I played it on PC, but I'm willing to give it another try. If i had PS4 PS2 would be downloaded and id be starting or re-starting, my infiltrator experience. I hate sniping and snipers. "The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
Spademan 6	Posted - 2015.06.23 20:47:00 - [38476] - Quote noob cavman wrote: Planetside 2 is here!!! \o/ Glory to vanu! Blood for the blood god! Skulls for the skull throne! Barney scum. The Smurfs are the only true ruler of Auraxis. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2	Posted - 2015.06.23 20:48:00 - [38477] - Quote I now have to make a us account x( I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Officially team salmon #majestic leaps
First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.23 20:50:00 - [38478] - Quote noob cavman wrote: I now have to make a us account x( Congratulations on joining the greatest region in the world. SCEA #1. God's favorite region. "The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.23 20:51:00 - [38479] - Quote noob cavman wrote: One Eyed King wrote: noob cavman wrote: If planetside is region locked im going to rip my **** off Its really not that great. Feels very casual. They were giving away free in game currency so you could buy whatever you wanted (before they took it away from you at release) and I still couldn't bother to log on. Sniping is very fun though. That gets an A+. At least the frame rate is stable I dont mind if it's "casual" It just wasn't that fun. Maybe now that it is wide open it will be. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Llast 326 An Arkhos 7	Posted - 2015.06.23 20:54:00 - [38480] - Quote noob cavman wrote: I now have to make a us account x( Make a Canadian accountGÇª you'll feel less dirty MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge

Spademan 6	Posted - 2015.06.23 21:01:00 - [38481] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: noob cavman wrote: I now have to make a us account x( Make a Canadian accountGÇª you'll feel less dirty It's true eh. What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3	Posted - 2015.06.23 21:11:00 - [38482] - Quote First Prophet wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: First Prophet wrote: Downloading PS2 on my PS4. Didn't care for it when I played it on PC, but I'm willing to give it another try. If i had PS4 PS2 would be downloaded and id be starting or re-starting, my infiltrator experience. I hate sniping and snipers. I'm a scout sniper in Dust. And, who said i was going to snipe? YouTube The Art of Ninja or infiltrator by Mustarde. My plan for my PS2 experience. Matari In-Game & Out Infiltrator-Sneaks behind enemy lines doing work no one else can Training again... Lets do this
Llast 326 An Arkhos 7	Posted - 2015.06.23 21:32:00 - [38483] - Quote Spademan wrote: Llast 326 wrote: noob cavman wrote: I now have to make a us account x( Make a Canadian accountGÇª you'll feel less dirty It's true eh. No dought a boot it MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.23 23:46:00 - [38484] - Quote Daily login bonus AUR is now live! Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
noob cavman Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 2	Posted - 2015.06.24 00:27:00 - [38485] - Quote Completed witcher 3 Bad news is house mate played a lil and took me off death march difficulty a somepoint. I have to restart it FUUUUUUUUU!!!! Oh well ******* great game so I dun care!!!! I want to be a caveman! psn: marko_blues Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ Officially team salmon #majestic leaps
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 10	Posted - 2015.06.24 00:30:00 - [38486] - Quote PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'm a scout sniper in Dust. I didn't know you were a sniper, Park! That's the source of all your frustration right there. Put down the sniper rifle. It does not love you. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley (for CPM2)
Llast 326 An Arkhos 7	Posted - 2015.06.24 00:39:00 - [38487] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I'm a scout sniper in Dust. I didn't know you were a sniper, Park! That's the source of all your frustration right there. Put down the sniper rifle. It does not love you. So much this I started as a sniperGÇª Still a damn good shot with that thing. But I started running sidearms to improve my survivability. I roam a lot as a sniperGÇª nowhere is safe, they find you as soon as you get a non headshot kill. then I went Knives to improve my gun gameGÇª never looked back MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
sir RAVEN WING No Context 3	Posted - 2015.06.24 01:19:00 - [38488] - Quote I am a scout sniper. At times. Amarr Scout (For running) Sniper. ADV SR. It's stacking damage mods to make sure the first shot kills. Usually doesn't, but it doesn't bother me much. Oh! Does anyone else have a better shot hipfiring a SR than aiming? I mean, I am a decent shot while ADS, but Hipfiring? Missed 3 out of 20 something shots. *The bird has flown away for a while. Leave a message at the tone* *Gon' Flying, be back soon.*
First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.24 01:33:00 - [38489] - Quote Dicked around in Planetside's version of Academy and got bored so I decided to try playing GTA V. How is it that the update file for GTA V is larger than the entirety of Planetside? "The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
J0LLY R0G3R Negative-Feedback. 3	Posted - 2015.06.24 01:49:00 - [38490] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Dicked around in Planetside's version of Academy and got bored so I decided to try playing GTA V. How is it that the update file for GTA V is larger than the entirety of Planetside? Did you already have the beta ? as in the game was already downloaded XD TheYoutube XD



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