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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9398
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Posted - 2015.05.04 02:42:00 -
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Good, Steve! Was on the road for a few days; will be back in action tomorrow.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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One Eyed King
Nos Nothi
9911
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Posted - 2015.05.04 02:43:00 -
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Pseudogenesis wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:First Prophet wrote: Thanks for killing the joke.
Flaylock Steve wrote: yea ... thanks for killing the joke >.< There was a joke? The #1 rule to live life by: you can't call it a joke if it isn't funny Or if you have to explain it.
Although sometimes it is fun even if you know, and get a joke, to play stupid and force the jokester to explain, thus ruining the moment for them.
I am a jerk sometimes.
Former CEO of the Land of the BIind.
Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
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sir RAVEN WING
3488
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Posted - 2015.05.04 03:11:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Pseudogenesis wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:First Prophet wrote: Thanks for killing the joke.
Flaylock Steve wrote: yea ... thanks for killing the joke >.< There was a joke? The #1 rule to live life by: you can't call it a joke if it isn't funny Or if you have to explain it. Although sometimes it is fun even if you know, and get a joke, to play stupid and force the jokester to explain, thus ruining the moment for them. I am a jerk sometimes. Ruin the joke by playing a joke.
Day 6/30 Calscout Knifer/Last of A Kind/Sneaky
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Dreis ShadowWeaver
0uter.Heaven Back and Forth
3424
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:10:00 -
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Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: A twist! It is as you feared. Mr Musturd weaving the shadows. FTFY I am musturd reincarnated. Kincats. Damps. REs. Knives. Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the RE nation attacked. Only mr musturd, master of all four elements, could stop them, but when New Eden needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered a new Avatar, a knifer named Dreis. And although his knifing skills are great, he has a lot to learn before he's ready to save anyone. But I believe... Dreis can save the New Eden. Henceforth, this will be played every time I enter battle.
Creator of the 'Nova Knifers United' channel
My Minja Blog
Day 17/30 exclusively Minja
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Archduke Ferd1nand
Nos Nothi
416
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Posted - 2015.05.04 04:54:00 -
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I think Im gonna take another extended break again.
The 6v16 matches that I encounter on a regular basis are too much for me, as I am simply not good enough to carry 5 blue dots against 16 reds.
Im also not very good anymore in pubs, and die more than I should. Im useless outside of PC because I don't know how to pub.
The meta of brick tanking and camping 1 spot with 6 other teammates and just moving around in a blob is frustrating to deal with.
Scramblers are unfair when they are so overused and you don't brick tank.
FW wait times suck, and it isn't even available for half the day.
PC being unprofitable means theres no reason to play it, and the current generation of PCers are mostly skilless scrubs with no gun game used to playing with pub tactics, making them easy to beat but annoying to play against.
Lag is still very present, and playing a slideshow is never any fun.
Rattati's balancing of anti shield weapons in an armor stacking meta is ridiculous, and his general views on game balance are backwards, in spite of his best intentions.
Redline camping in LAV's with rail turrets, tanks with rail turrets, installations, snipers, and laser rifles is no fun to deal with, and is ultimately just a degenerate form of gameplay.
Tanks are ridiculously overpowered, more often than not unavoidable, easily spammable, and nigh impossible to counter without a tank of your own.
Active scanners and just the idea of perma scan is cancerous for any FPS. Id always hoped that they would remove it, or at least reduce it, but it seems that it will always be in existence, whether its the scannerina, the cal scout and later amarr scout, or the current quad scanner gal logi.
Skilless high rooftop camping and players playing for a KDR vs. playing for a win is omnipresent.
For all these reasons and more, I will be taking a break probably until next patch.
BRB, looking for socks
PSN: tommygunboy2080
I shit shotgun shells and piss Remote Explosives
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2304
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Posted - 2015.05.04 08:05:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:One thing I saw in Dreis' thread: Adipem Nothi wrote:
GalScout is by far the most widely used Scout, and it is no where near as popular as the MN Assault. Scouts haven't been FoTM since December; the MN Scout is most certainly not FoTM.
This is wrong. The Minscout has presently exceeded the Galscout in sales. Hah nice one Ark...factual yet subtly misleading for those who don't pay attention :-p Rounded to the nearest decimal place percentage-wise, they [Min / Gal scouts] are identical. I think it's about 121 suits in 24,000 Dreis. It is interesting though....especially when there is not a Nova Knife to be seen in the sidearm charts. What the hell are these people doing? Why misleading? I said that the statement 'Galscout is by far the most widely used scout' is wrong and presented statistics to prove my point. In what way did this mislead you?
No you are right, I took it out of context. In fact I suspect I was led by Dreis' cries and leapt to the conclusion that MinScout was as popular as GalScout. Nothing to see here, move along :-p |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2304
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Posted - 2015.05.04 08:10:00 -
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Flaylock Steve wrote:First Prophet wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: I have no idea why Min scouts would outsell Cal scouts.
It's probably because i die a lot. Makes sense, the more you die the more you have to buy it. I swear these devs need to play the game rather than looking at the data alone. Just because something is "outselling" doesn't mean it's good. Sometimes just means that you die alot in it xD
I know you guys were joking or something, but I hadn't considered this and it makes perfect sense. Those figures are not necessarily a measure of suit popularity. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
23755
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Posted - 2015.05.04 08:24:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: No you are right, I took it out of context. In fact I suspect I was led by Dreis' cries and leapt to the conclusion that MinScout was as popular as GalScout. Nothing to see here, move along :-p
Well...
It pretty much is, though?
Supreme Forum Warrior
Gallente Guide
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
23755
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Posted - 2015.05.04 08:25:00 -
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Archduke Ferd1nand wrote: The 6v16 matches that I encounter on a regular basis are too much for me, as I am simply not good enough to carry 5 blue dots against 16 reds.
This.
So much this. Goddamn. I'm so sick of it.
Supreme Forum Warrior
Gallente Guide
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
23755
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Posted - 2015.05.04 09:16:00 -
[35110] - Quote
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=201436&find=unread Squad vs squad suggestion, because it'd be fun and surely even CCP wouldn't be able to screw up the matchmaking for that.
Supreme Forum Warrior
Gallente Guide
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
2804
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Posted - 2015.05.04 09:45:00 -
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Hey guys rate my fit! Constructive criticism welcome.
G/1 scout Two COM PE SCR BSMG FLX HIVE AN-18 CLK ADV FERRO COM DMP COM KC
I wanted a long range scout, but i didn't want a weapon that had a direct line back towards me. Thought RR, but its a loud weapon not for what i had in mind. I thought TAC AR, but leads back towards me and longer TTK. So, SCR. Get in, charge HS with follwup, get out. Charge shot s loud though, but hits like a truck. Plus ill be a good distance away.
Haven't field tested it yet, just wondering what you think.
BLOG, cause talking-overrated, social just not to you, autism FTW
Snake Eyes>All
I wil get good, Determinator inbound
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
23755
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Posted - 2015.05.04 09:49:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I wanted a long range scout, but i didn't want a weapon that had a direct line back towards me. Thought RR, but its a loud weapon not for what i had in mind. I thought TAC AR, but leads back towards me and longer TTK. So, SCR. Get in, charge HS with follwup, get out. Charge shot s loud though, but hits like a truck. Plus ill be a good distance away.
The SCR, of all long range weapons bar the laser rifle, is almost certainly the one that most gives 'a direct line' back to the shooter.
I recommend the ARR, personally. Even if it's loud, you don't get bullet trails with it.
Supreme Forum Warrior
Gallente Guide
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Spademan
6469
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Posted - 2015.05.04 10:18:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:No you are right, I took it out of context. In fact I suspect I was led by Dreis' cries and leapt to the conclusion that MinScout was as popular as GalScout. Nothing to see here, move along :-p
Translation
IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:It's everybody's fault but mine
What're you looking at me like that for? I'll shank you I will.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
2804
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Posted - 2015.05.04 10:35:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote: I wanted a long range scout, but i didn't want a weapon that had a direct line back towards me. Thought RR, but its a loud weapon not for what i had in mind. I thought TAC AR, but leads back towards me and longer TTK. So, SCR. Get in, charge HS with follwup, get out. Charge shot s loud though, but hits like a truck. Plus ill be a good distance away.
The SCR, of all long range weapons bar the laser rifle, is almost certainly the one that most gives 'a direct line' back to the shooter. I recommend the ARR, personally. Even if it's loud, you don't get bullet trails with it.
Yeah but the charge shot does a ridiculous amount of damage. Ill try ARR & BAR instead. As i said haven't field tested it yet.
Hmmm....
BLOG, cause talking-overrated, social just not to you, autism FTW
Snake Eyes>All
I wil get good, Determinator inbound
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
23758
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Posted - 2015.05.04 10:42:00 -
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The charge shot is a terrible idea if you're not using an Amarr assault.
It does 3x as much damage as a regular shot, but uses up 10x the heat and you also need to charge it up for 2 seconds, which makes your position glow and is noisy.
If you use the charge shot, you end up with ~600 raw volley damage as opposed to the possible 1100+ that you'd get from using normal shots.
If you want a long range weapon, I advise against the breach AR. The TAR works thanks to its significantly increased range over the standard variants, but even so it's the shortest range option out of RR/SCR/TAR. The breach is even shorter range.
I use double damage modded ARR scouts semi-frequently, and they're pretty much my go-to scout for long range work. The ARR gives you excellent flexibility - you can still confidently engage at shorter ranges if you need to, and if you're at long range very little can touch you.
You just have to watch the odd ironsights, really.
Supreme Forum Warrior
Gallente Guide
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
23758
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Posted - 2015.05.04 10:48:00 -
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Here's the fit I typically use. It's not ADV, but then non-proto is basically the domain of plebs anyway.
Scout gk.0 Complex Light Damage Modifier Complex Light Damage Modifier Complex Ferroscale Plates Complex Ferroscale Plates Complex Armor Repairer Complex Kinetic Catalyzer
Ishukone Assault Rail Rifle Core Flaylock Pistol
K-2 Nanohive P-13 Quantum Drop Uplink
Supreme Forum Warrior
Gallente Guide
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9404
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Posted - 2015.05.04 13:54:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The charge shot is a terrible idea if you're not using an Amarr assault.
I don't agree with this, Park. Charged shots are great, but they're situational.
Examples: * Sucker punch with a charged shot; switch to SMG or Bolt. * See Scout. Charge. OHK. * Charged headshot anyone you catch standing still. * Charged shot low HP units (great kill stealer).
You certainly don't want to always open up with a charge shot, but I wouldn't say that charged shots are always a bad idea. Also, keep in mind that holding a charge makes alot of noise and can give away your position.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
2805
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Posted - 2015.05.04 14:13:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The charge shot is a terrible idea if you're not using an Amarr assault.
I don't agree with this, Park. Charged shots are great, but they're situational. Examples: * Sucker punch with a charged shot; switch to SMG or Bolt. * See Scout. Charge. OHK. * Charged headshot anyone you catch standing still. * Charged shot low HP units (great kill stealer). You certainly don't want to always open up with a charge shot, but I wouldn't say that charged shots are always a bad idea. Also, keep in mind that holding a charge makes alot of noise and can give away your position.
Its hard to decide too, cause im a scout sniper as well. Speaking of, do you want my thales and SYMBs? Id appreciate a decent price for them, or money off for a BPO if you have any left.
The only option left is the Bolt pistol. Decent range, quiet, ridiculous damage, i dont know, just have to mess around to see what works.
BLOG, cause talking-overrated, social just not to you, autism FTW
Snake Eyes>All
I wil get good, Determinator inbound
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9407
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Posted - 2015.05.04 14:33:00 -
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Personal preference: SMG on high-HP ScR fits Bolt on low-HP ScR fits
PS: If you're a Scout Sniper, you should hang onto those officer sniper rifles! PPS: Now is probably a bad time to invest SP into the ScR; it's very likely going to get nerfed.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2304
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Posted - 2015.05.04 14:40:00 -
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Spademan wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:No you are right, I took it out of context. In fact I suspect I was led by Dreis' cries and leapt to the conclusion that MinScout was as popular as GalScout. Nothing to see here, move along :-p Translation IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:It's everybody's fault but mine
Huh? I just admitted I made a mistake. Don't hate. |
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
2805
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Posted - 2015.05.04 14:41:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Personal preference: SMG on high-HP ScR fits Bolt on low-HP ScR fits
PS: If you're a Scout Sniper, you should hang onto those officer sniper rifles! PPS: Now is probably a bad time to invest SP into the ScR; it's very likely going to get nerfed.
Using MLT SCR. Im a cheap bastard. No way am i bringing officer gear into any match unless im prepared to lose them. Im not. Youd have more use for them. Got any spare BPOs rmthat aren't Dragonfly scout & Toxin SMG your willing to part with?
BLOG, cause talking-overrated, social just not to you, autism FTW
Snake Eyes>All
I wil get good, Determinator inbound
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
Nos Nothi
2304
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Posted - 2015.05.04 14:45:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: No you are right, I took it out of context. In fact I suspect I was led by Dreis' cries and leapt to the conclusion that MinScout was as popular as GalScout. Nothing to see here, move along :-p
Well... It pretty much is, though?
Well...maybe not?
What if, on a given day, 100 Gal Scouts are used, and 10 Min Scouts. 10 of each suit die and are re-stocked. How many suits of each are purchased?
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Vyuru
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
173
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Posted - 2015.05.04 15:46:00 -
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I am sitting here thinking (and Lord knows that is a dangerous thing) what if we left Scouts as is (maybe a few tweaks) and created a new light suit called the Recon Suit (or something appropriate) The main idea is a suit more designed for infiltration than the Scouts, while removing Light Weapon usage from it to keep it from being an overpowered slayer.
Possibly make it fewer slots on average than a Scout, but the bonuses maybe let you make up the difference.... Not sure on that idea.
Rough idea:
Restricted to 2x Sidearms
Bonuses to Biotics/Hacking/Scanning Modules, Cloak (assuming no additional cloak skills added), possibly racial weapon usage for where it makes sense?
I would love to see a skill that makes Primary Objectives flip sooner for these suits, if possible.
I think these could be good bonuses to cloaking abilities per racial suit. Or, I could maybe see Cloak Fitting bonus stay on them, and make the following skills added to the Cloak tree:
3%-5% per level to Cloak Duration 3%-5% per level to Cloak Recharge 5% per level reduction to Cloak Shimmer
The 5% I think would work ok on Basic and Advanced level Cloaks, but I think might be overpowered on Proto Cloaks, so I'm thinking more 3% or 4% on Duration/Recharge.
And then either:
1% per level to Suit Dampening or 10% per level reduction to Cloak Blindness
I dunno, the idea is still half baked in my head. Thought that maybe I can toss this out here, see what you guys thought and maybe we can get this shaped up and pitched to Rattati. |
Kaeru Nayiri
Ready to Play
1075
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Posted - 2015.05.04 16:59:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The charge shot is a terrible idea if you're not using an Amarr assault.
I don't agree with this, Park. Charged shots are great, but they're situational. Examples: * Sucker punch with a charged shot; switch to SMG or Bolt. * See Scout. Charge. OHK. * Charged headshot anyone you catch standing still. * Charged shot low HP units (great kill stealer). You certainly don't want to always open up with a charge shot, but I wouldn't say that charged shots are always a bad idea. Also, keep in mind that holding a charge makes alot of noise and can give away your position. Its hard to decide too, cause im a scout sniper as well. Speaking of, do you want my thales and SYMBs? Id appreciate a decent price for them, or money off for a BPO if you have any left. The only option left is the Bolt pistol. Decent range, quiet, ridiculous damage, i dont know, just have to mess around to see what works.
what about the combat rifle? regular unleaded, basic version. Little reason to even use the RS-90 now that they tiercided the ranges between them. Great range, very strong with the aim assist with repeated trigger presses, good profile for today's armor environment.
Know what cannot be known.
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2Berries
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
828
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:02:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Hey guys rate my fit! Constructive criticism welcome.
G/1 scout Two COM PE SCR BSMG FLX HIVE AN-18 CLK ADV FERRO COM DMP COM KC
I wanted a long range scout, but i didn't want a weapon that had a direct line back towards me. Thought RR, but its a loud weapon not for what i had in mind. I thought TAC AR, but leads back towards me and longer TTK. So, SCR. Get in, charge HS with follwup, get out. Charge shot s loud though, but hits like a truck. Plus ill be a good distance away.
Haven't field tested it yet, just wondering what you think. Switch out the ScR for a RR & the ferroscale for cardio. With the range of the RR, by the time reds find where you are firing from you will have enough time to run off & reposition.
Pretty expensive for a pub fit.
Evening Boys, Hows the water?
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
2805
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:17:00 -
[35126] - Quote
2Berries wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Hey guys rate my fit! Constructive criticism welcome.
G/1 scout Two COM PE SCR BSMG FLX HIVE AN-18 CLK ADV FERRO COM DMP COM KC
I wanted a long range scout, but i didn't want a weapon that had a direct line back towards me. Thought RR, but its a loud weapon not for what i had in mind. I thought TAC AR, but leads back towards me and longer TTK. So, SCR. Get in, charge HS with follwup, get out. Charge shot s loud though, but hits like a truck. Plus ill be a good distance away.
Haven't field tested it yet, just wondering what you think. Switch out the ScR for a RR & the ferroscale for cardio. With the range of the RR, by the time reds find where you are firing from you will have enough time to run off & reposition. Pretty expensive for a pub fit.
Test fit. If it goes well i make a basic variant.
BLOG, cause talking-overrated, social just not to you, autism FTW
Snake Eyes>All
I wil get good, Determinator inbound
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noob cavman
Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback
2422
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:20:00 -
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Wait. All my pub fits are over 40k The hell you guys running
I want to be a caveman!
psn: marko_blues
Gö+GöüGö+ n+¦pâ+(`-ö´)n+ën+¦ Gö+GöüGö+
Full steam ahead into the enemies booty yarrr.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
2805
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:20:00 -
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Kaeru Nayiri wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:The charge shot is a terrible idea if you're not using an Amarr assault.
I don't agree with this, Park. Charged shots are great, but they're situational. Examples: * Sucker punch with a charged shot; switch to SMG or Bolt. * See Scout. Charge. OHK. * Charged headshot anyone you catch standing still. * Charged shot low HP units (great kill stealer). You certainly don't want to always open up with a charge shot, but I wouldn't say that charged shots are always a bad idea. Also, keep in mind that holding a charge makes alot of noise and can give away your position. Its hard to decide too, cause im a scout sniper as well. Speaking of, do you want my thales and SYMBs? Id appreciate a decent price for them, or money off for a BPO if you have any left. The only option left is the Bolt pistol. Decent range, quiet, ridiculous damage, i dont know, just have to mess around to see what works. what about the combat rifle? regular unleaded, basic version. Little reason to even use the RS-90 now that they tiercided the ranges between them. Great range, very strong with the aim assist with repeated trigger presses, good profile for today's armor environment.
Ranged fit. Tried but kept getting outranged by RRs. Maybe im just not playing right it just wasn't working. Plus i think i overuse the CR a little.
BLOG, cause talking-overrated, social just not to you, autism FTW
Snake Eyes>All
I wil get good, Determinator inbound
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
Rebels New Republic The Ditanian Alliance
2805
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:22:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:Wait. All my pub fits are over 40k The hell you guys running
Id say half are over 40k the rest are under. Minus some proto fits.
BLOG, cause talking-overrated, social just not to you, autism FTW
Snake Eyes>All
I wil get good, Determinator inbound
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Kaeru Nayiri
Ready to Play
1075
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Posted - 2015.05.04 17:58:00 -
[35130] - Quote
@Parkour, gotcha, understood !
About pub fit costs: The fit I used the last video I posted is what I use mostly these days because uplinks are the most important meta right now.
Costs 35k, and the vid shows what it can do ! I think I made 500k isk in that match, though usually I make about 250k per skim or dom. I'd MUCH MUCH MUCH rather use my 25k basic fit which I've shared in the past but not enough bandwidth to keep 2 links alive :( .
Know what cannot be known.
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