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Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
87
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:09:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Krom Ganesh wrote: CCP needs to create a rival drink company that also enters the suit making business. Then we can have advertising wars!
Have a Quoke. That actually sounds good. It made me crave a cold Coke. I realized that I'm glad the scout role exists at all. Imagine if the game didn't have this class. I salute you for gaining kills in a scout suit. If the game gets frustrating, take a break or get a mlt med frame and enjoy easy mode. Enjoy the AR, the grenades. Farm SP in a fun way. When the game starts to get serious and allows scouts to flourish, then go on and be" top dog". I was having terrible games, I then used REs and it brought smiles and awe. I seriously enjoyed watching flying heavies, flying corpses that crash against walls, and overall ragdoll funny stuff.
Ha, yeah ... I finally got pretty irritated the other day and decided to run a match or two with a medium suit and AR. First thing I do? Get blasted by our own Shotty GoBang. Decided that if I was FINALLY going up against Shotty ... I had to run my scout fit, of course. No break after all. Respawned ... and learned that Shotty was camping the spawner.
0/2. Thirty seconds or so into the match.
That was my punishment for deciding to 'take a match off' from scouting
Did alright the rest of the way, but never ran into Shotty again, although my corp mate was trying to ding him with a plasma cannon for awhile, I heard...
Moral of the story: Don't take breaks from scouting |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
2440
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Posted - 2013.11.02 15:41:00 -
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Hey guys, just a heads up, I'm starting to level up my assault suit now for real. I'll be using the triple sp for it.
I'm gunna be going amarr assault shotgun. So if you see me on the field with it, you'll know why.
Once I get proto I'll let you know to take me off the registry. :(
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Idye Lotz
xCosmic Voidx Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
162
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Posted - 2013.11.02 16:12:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:[ I was having terrible games, I then used REs and it brought smiles and awe. I seriously enjoyed watching flying heavies, flying corpses that crash against walls, and overall ragdoll funny stuff.
LOL Remote explosive have to be the funniest weapon in the game. I laugh when I get killed by them. It cracked me up when a heavy was chasing me so I throw one down at a door way and waited for him to come out. Just as he started winding up his HMG I set it off, and he went flying through the air like rocket man. LOL |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
312
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Posted - 2013.11.02 16:21:00 -
[3364] - Quote
DJINN Marauder wrote:Hey guys, just a heads up, I'm starting to level up my assault suit now for real. I'll be using the triple sp for it.
I'm gunna be going amarr assault shotgun. So if you see me on the field with it, you'll know why.
Once I get proto I'll let you know to take me off the registry. :(
on the plus sideGǪ. no more "scouts are fine look at Marauder" When you go ASSault just try not to shoot me from 114m with mid range weapons Seriously though do what you find fun, and have FUN See you out there (hopefully you don't see me though) |
Cass Caul
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2013.11.02 16:22:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Hey guys, just a heads up, I'm starting to level up my assault suit now for real. I'll be using the triple sp for it.
I'm gunna be going amarr assault shotgun. So if you see me on the field with it, you'll know why.
Once I get proto I'll let you know to take me off the registry. :(
Amarr Assault? huh. What made you pick that one? I was talking with Rampage and he said you we're rocking the A-1 suit. I think I'll try attacking a shotgun to my Templar gear.
But I think I'm either going Gallente Logi (2.7M away) or Caldari Logi (1.2M away). Low slots are so key in this game imo I can't do without at least 4 |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1909
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Posted - 2013.11.02 16:38:00 -
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Ruthless Lee wrote:Ha, yeah ... I finally got pretty irritated the other day and decided to run a match or two with a medium suit and AR. First thing I do? Get blasted by our own Shotty GoBang. Decided that if I was FINALLY going up against Shotty ... I had to run my scout fit, of course. No break after all. Respawned ... and learned that Shotty was camping the spawner. 0/2. Thirty seconds or so into the match. That was my punishment for deciding to 'take a match off' from scouting Did alright the rest of the way, but never ran into Shotty again, although my corp mate was trying to ding him with a plasma cannon for awhile, I heard... Moral of the story: Don't take breaks from scouting
Hey! My side of the story is totally different ...
Spawned start-of-match as the ambush sacrifice ... no friendlies, surrounded by reds. It was the new outdoor map; the one without much cover and lots of ARs. I was absolutely screwed, but fortunate to be near a socket with upper/lower platform.
Got a kill or two then ran upstairs. A good minute of "chase that Scout" passed until you guys finally cornered me with your blasted ARs. Best part was that Medic of yours running around with a low-grade pick-up stick ... resurrecting guys left and right ... perpetuating glorious Scout carnage. I didn't exactly set out to camp your spawn, but I definitely farmed that Medic for a few kills :-) |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
2440
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Posted - 2013.11.02 16:44:00 -
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Cass Caul wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Hey guys, just a heads up, I'm starting to level up my assault suit now for real. I'll be using the triple sp for it.
I'm gunna be going amarr assault shotgun. So if you see me on the field with it, you'll know why.
Once I get proto I'll let you know to take me off the registry. :( Amarr Assault? huh. What made you pick that one? I was talking with Rampage and he said you we're rocking the A-1 suit. I think I'll try attacking a shotgun to my Templar gear. But I think I'm either going Gallente Logi (2.7M away) or Caldari Logi (1.2M away). Low slots are so key in this game imo I can't do without at least 4 Well I was originally gunna go cal assault but I use scrambler rifle a lot too is I decided to go amarr.
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This too lol OP shotgun fit. I can exchange basic plate with enhanced red and nano with a k2 I think and run at 8.5 with 600+ ehp
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Knight Soiaire
Taco Eating Ninja Monkeys
2940
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Posted - 2013.11.02 16:48:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Cass Caul wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Hey guys, just a heads up, I'm starting to level up my assault suit now for real. I'll be using the triple sp for it.
I'm gunna be going amarr assault shotgun. So if you see me on the field with it, you'll know why.
Once I get proto I'll let you know to take me off the registry. :( Amarr Assault? huh. What made you pick that one? I was talking with Rampage and he said you we're rocking the A-1 suit. I think I'll try attacking a shotgun to my Templar gear. But I think I'm either going Gallente Logi (2.7M away) or Caldari Logi (1.2M away). Low slots are so key in this game imo I can't do without at least 4 Well I was originally gunna go cal assault but I use scrambler rifle a lot too is I decided to go amarr. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=warning&l=https%3a%2f%2fdocs.google.com%2fspreadsheet%2fccc%3fkey%3d0Agg1rFi1LDsVdG5LaGRlSlNnUldobU5hWExick9oOEE%23gid%3d32&domain=google.comThis too lol OP shotgun fit. I can exchange basic plate with enhanced red and nano with a k2 I think and run at 8.5 with 600+ ehp
Not fast enough.
Gotta go faster!
I'm going Minmatar Logi, best Logi suit in the game.
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
2441
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Posted - 2013.11.02 16:53:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Cass Caul wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Hey guys, just a heads up, I'm starting to level up my assault suit now for real. I'll be using the triple sp for it.
I'm gunna be going amarr assault shotgun. So if you see me on the field with it, you'll know why.
Once I get proto I'll let you know to take me off the registry. :( Amarr Assault? huh. What made you pick that one? I was talking with Rampage and he said you we're rocking the A-1 suit. I think I'll try attacking a shotgun to my Templar gear. But I think I'm either going Gallente Logi (2.7M away) or Caldari Logi (1.2M away). Low slots are so key in this game imo I can't do without at least 4 Well I was originally gunna go cal assault but I use scrambler rifle a lot too is I decided to go amarr. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=warning&l=https%3a%2f%2fdocs.google.com%2fspreadsheet%2fccc%3fkey%3d0Agg1rFi1LDsVdG5LaGRlSlNnUldobU5hWExick9oOEE%23gid%3d32&domain=google.comThis too lol OP shotgun fit. I can exchange basic plate with enhanced red and nano with a k2 I think and run at 8.5 with 600+ ehp Not fast enough. Gotta go faster! I'm going Minmatar Logi, best Logi suit in the game. lol. It's faster than my normal scout fit tho lol. Hell the amarr assault has same stamina as scout. So I don't even need a green:P
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Knight Soiaire
Taco Eating Ninja Monkeys
2940
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Posted - 2013.11.02 16:56:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Knight Soiaire wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Cass Caul wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Hey guys, just a heads up, I'm starting to level up my assault suit now for real. I'll be using the triple sp for it.
I'm gunna be going amarr assault shotgun. So if you see me on the field with it, you'll know why.
Once I get proto I'll let you know to take me off the registry. :( Amarr Assault? huh. What made you pick that one? I was talking with Rampage and he said you we're rocking the A-1 suit. I think I'll try attacking a shotgun to my Templar gear. But I think I'm either going Gallente Logi (2.7M away) or Caldari Logi (1.2M away). Low slots are so key in this game imo I can't do without at least 4 Well I was originally gunna go cal assault but I use scrambler rifle a lot too is I decided to go amarr. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=warning&l=https%3a%2f%2fdocs.google.com%2fspreadsheet%2fccc%3fkey%3d0Agg1rFi1LDsVdG5LaGRlSlNnUldobU5hWExick9oOEE%23gid%3d32&domain=google.comThis too lol OP shotgun fit. I can exchange basic plate with enhanced red and nano with a k2 I think and run at 8.5 with 600+ ehp Not fast enough. Gotta go faster! I'm going Minmatar Logi, best Logi suit in the game. lol. It's faster than my normal scout fit tho lol. Hell the amarr assault has same stamina as scout. So I don't even need a green:P
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
638
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Posted - 2013.11.02 16:57:00 -
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Hm.... I also took a break from my scout for two games yesterday and ran my Gallente basic suit on an alternate character, using the basic AR of course, with proficiency L2. I thought "whoa, this will be so EZ", after practicing with nothing but pistols for a few weeks I thought for sure my aim would surely be awesome.
Dude, I was so wrong. My aim seemed worse since I was farther away, it took longer to kill people and moving slow and with much less situational awareness I failed to get better KDR scores than when I ran scout.
I really must be a challenged player if I can't even make the medium frame / AR work!
On the flip side, I better really rethink moving away from scout if they do offer a respec....
Maybe I need to squad up.... or just get good! Man, glad I didn't waste any SP on this character on medium frames... and only enough for operation 2 w/ the AR.....
How embarrassing.
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Kahn Zo
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
39
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Posted - 2013.11.02 17:01:00 -
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FWIW, yesterday (?) running with a great all scout squad, we jump into a skirmish. Nobody there but us, the squad. we hacked up everything, mopped the floors, LAV tag, Dropship bungee jumping, etc. Crazy I tell ya.
You deserve what you tolerate
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Cass Caul
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
213
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Posted - 2013.11.02 17:02:00 -
[3373] - Quote
My first Alt, Phantasmal Priestess started uprising as a Minnie Scout. used an AR... hated hit. Optional Respec came and I upgraded her to Minnie Logi.
It's really gaining in popularity, but I don't like it. That base speed and hack bonus were what I wanted, but it just ins't versatile enough.
I've been running 1 complex damage mod with 2 complex armor plates and two armor reps with my Carathum Assualt, and I really like it. Updrage to Gal Logi and put a CardReg and replace an armor rep with another armor plate. Or do my shotgun fit only with more shields and the same speed and stam...
I also made a new Alt, Lean Sidhe (ok... I ****** up and didn't realize until after I applied a BPO that I misspelled the last name as Shide) Going Gallente Assault with her. So ******* easy. Squaded up with some gud players and still ******* came in top 4 on the leaderboard. |
Llast 326
An Arkhos
314
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Posted - 2013.11.02 17:13:00 -
[3374] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:GǪ. I also made a new Alt, Lean Sidhe (ok... I ****** up and didn't realize until after I applied a BPO that I misspelled the last name as Shide ) Going Gallente Assault with her. So ******* easy. Squaded up with some gud players and still ******* came in top 4 on the leaderboard. edit: I am ******* swearing to goddamned much this morning. I didn't even realize it till I read that post I think my alt went up against your alt the other day |
Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
90
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Posted - 2013.11.02 17:56:00 -
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Matticus Monk wrote:Hm.... I also took a break from my scout for two games yesterday and ran my Gallente basic suit on an alternate character, using the basic AR of course, with proficiency L2. I thought "whoa, this will be so EZ", after practicing with nothing but pistols for a few weeks I thought for sure my aim would surely be awesome. Dude, I was so wrong. My aim seemed worse since I was farther away, it took longer to kill people and moving slow and with much less situational awareness I failed to get better KDR scores than when I ran scout. I really must be a challenged player if I can't even make the medium frame / AR work! On the flip side, I better really rethink moving away from scout if they do offer a respec.... Maybe I need to squad up.... or just get good! Man, glad I didn't waste any SP on this character on medium frames... and only enough for operation 2 w/ the AR..... How embarrassing.
I'll say this ... squadding up makes this game a lot more fun, no matter what your role is. I generally just run with one or two other guys in my Corp (since, uh, that's our entire Corp), but on the rare occasions where I've run with full squads ... man, it's truly a blast. |
Orenji Jiji
284
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:02:00 -
[3376] - Quote
DJINN Marauder wrote:Hey guys, just a heads up, I'm starting to level up my assault suit now for real. I'll be using the triple sp for it.
I'm gunna be going amarr assault shotgun. So if you see me on the field with it, you'll know why.
Once I get proto I'll let you know to take me off the registry. :( Amarr? Why not Minnie?
Yeah, so why I play my proto Minnie logi and run dragonfly for ***** and giggles (minja on my heavy alt) I though about going full ******... I mean assault. Minnie ADV is awesome. Can't wait for PRO. ;)
Give that scout a scanner. Scouts love scanners!
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Ruthless Lee
The Eliminators
91
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:04:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Ruthless Lee wrote:Ha, yeah ... I finally got pretty irritated the other day and decided to run a match or two with a medium suit and AR. First thing I do? Get blasted by our own Shotty GoBang. Decided that if I was FINALLY going up against Shotty ... I had to run my scout fit, of course. No break after all. Respawned ... and learned that Shotty was camping the spawner. 0/2. Thirty seconds or so into the match. That was my punishment for deciding to 'take a match off' from scouting Did alright the rest of the way, but never ran into Shotty again, although my corp mate was trying to ding him with a plasma cannon for awhile, I heard... Moral of the story: Don't take breaks from scouting Hey! My side of the story is totally different ... Spawned start-of-match as the ambush sacrifice ... no friendlies, surrounded by reds. It was the new outdoor map; the one without much cover and lots of ARs. I was absolutely screwed, but fortunate to be near a socket with upper/lower platform. Got a kill or two then ran upstairs. A good minute of "chase that Scout" passed until you guys finally cornered me with your blasted ARs. Best part was that Medic of yours running around with a low-grade pick-up stick ... resurrecting guys left and right ... perpetuating glorious Scout carnage. I didn't exactly set out to camp your spawn, but I definitely farmed that Medic for a few kills :-)
Haha, yeah, that map sorta sucks as a scout, doesn't it? The funniest thing to me was that I was just running up that ramp to drop an uplink, then I planned to try out whatever AR I was carrying. All of the sudden, my corp mate tells me to watch out, Shotty is on the way. I'm like, Shotty? Really? I never run into Shotty...
I turned and saw you blazing a trail for me, and couldn't help but think this was what I get for busting out a freaking medium suit ... a proto death scout hot on my tail
So I missed all the rest. By the time I died, changed fits, re-spawned, then died again and finally gave up and spawned somewhere else ... that initial encounter was over with. I roamed around with my mass driver/smg combo, and did alright the rest of the way ... but don't think I ever saw you again.
Now you're my campfire story for all the new recruits ... a nightmare with a shotgun for all those who stray from the path of the scout |
Cass Caul
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
217
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:10:00 -
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Orenji Jiji wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Hey guys, just a heads up, I'm starting to level up my assault suit now for real. I'll be using the triple sp for it.
I'm gunna be going amarr assault shotgun. So if you see me on the field with it, you'll know why.
Once I get proto I'll let you know to take me off the registry. :( Amarr? Why not Minnie? Yeah, so why I play my proto Minnie logi and run dragonfly for ***** and giggles (minja on my heavy alt) I though about going full ******... I mean assault. Minnie ADV is awesome. Can't wait for PRO. ;) There is nothing good about any of the Minmatar suits. Unless you just want to run dual scrambler pistols or are a tanker with Minmatar Logi...
Standard design philosophy is they have more speed but less eHP. The Gallente have the most CPU and are tight on PG while the Caldari are tight on CPU but have plenty of PG to spare. Minmatar are middle of the road, so less CPU than Gallente and less PG than Caldari. That just doesn't make for a good suit in this game where HP is key. |
Shotty GoBang
Pro Hic Immortalis
1913
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:34:00 -
[3379] - Quote
Highly annoyed. Squadded up via Scouts United twice this afternoon.
First Squad - Five guys; not a single Scout. Second Squad - Four guys; not a single Scout.
Dialogue with Second Squad: Q. "Is this a Scout Squad?" A. "Nah, man." Q. "How'd you find me?" A. "You LFS'd in one of the channels."
Since when is our sacred haven "one of the channels"!? This is unacceptable.
If I wanted to squad with randoms, I'd LFS in Local or use the godd*mn Squad Finder. How do we fix this? |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
2450
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:40:00 -
[3380] - Quote
Orenji Jiji wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Hey guys, just a heads up, I'm starting to level up my assault suit now for real. I'll be using the triple sp for it.
I'm gunna be going amarr assault shotgun. So if you see me on the field with it, you'll know why.
Once I get proto I'll let you know to take me off the registry. :( Amarr? Why not Minnie? Yeah, so why I play my proto Minnie logi and run dragonfly for ***** and giggles (minja on my heavy alt) I though about going full ******... I mean assault. Minnie ADV is awesome. Can't wait for PRO. ;) I posted my future fit on the proto amarr up a couple posts. That's why essentially. Scout speed, scout stamina, with 200-300 more EHP.
Best part is I can STILL opt out and go for straight tank with 1100EHP if I wanted to.
Fake Edit: no no wait... The best part is....I CAN SURVIVE A CORE LOCUS!!!!
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
2450
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:42:00 -
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Shotty GoBang wrote:Highly annoyed. Squadded up via Scouts United twice this afternoon.
First Squad - Five guys; not a single Scout. Second Squad - Four guys; not a single Scout.
Dialogue with Second Squad: Q. "Is this a Scout Squad?" A. "Nah, man." Q. "How'd you find me?" A. "You LFS'd in one of the channels."
Since when is our sacred haven "one of the channels"!? This is unacceptable.
If I wanted to squad with randoms, I'd LFS in Local or use the godd*mn Squad Finder. How do we fix this? Truly unacceptable. We must purge the tainted EZ mode beings from our channel
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OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
1027
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Posted - 2013.11.02 20:49:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Highly annoyed. Squadded up via Scouts United twice this afternoon.
First Squad - Five guys; not a single Scout. Second Squad - Four guys; not a single Scout.
Dialogue with Second Squad: Q. "Is this a Scout Squad?" A. "Nah, man." Q. "How'd you find me?" A. "You LFS'd in one of the channels."
Since when is our sacred haven "one of the channels"!? This is unacceptable.
If I wanted to squad with randoms, I'd LFS in Local or use the godd*mn Squad Finder. How do we fix this? Truly unacceptable. We must purge the tainted EZ mode beings from our channel Who's sending it to others? Like scouts with other suits or just med frames an heavies lol |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
1694
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:31:00 -
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Running against Red Star in PC tonight was an eye opener of how useless scouts truly are in PC.
While I was easily able to flank around the city and enemy home objective and sneak in for the occasional hack, it was impossible to get back out because there was instantly a tank rolling in with a heavy to mow me down and nothing I could do against him. And then so many times I'd reach an objective guarded by just one heavy and be unable to get even close because even after fluxing his shields down he killed me with a toxin SMG before I could finish off his armour with my proto SMG.
I'm trying to wrap my head around how scouts could be made competitive in PC but struggling. Even if we had speed and stealth working properly, all they need is a lone heavy watching an objective and there's no way we can get in there. If we run with other teammates in PC we're already foregoing our stealth and speed, so what's the point in using a scout suit instead of a medium?
The only solution I can come up with is some sort of damage bonus, so that if we do manage to get the jump on someone we can take them out instead of them just shrugging off a few bullets and smacking us down.
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Ghost Kaisar
R 0 N 1 N
760
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:43:00 -
[3384] - Quote
DJINN Marauder wrote:Shotty GoBang wrote:Highly annoyed. Squadded up via Scouts United twice this afternoon.
First Squad - Five guys; not a single Scout. Second Squad - Four guys; not a single Scout.
Dialogue with Second Squad: Q. "Is this a Scout Squad?" A. "Nah, man." Q. "How'd you find me?" A. "You LFS'd in one of the channels."
Since when is our sacred haven "one of the channels"!? This is unacceptable.
If I wanted to squad with randoms, I'd LFS in Local or use the godd*mn Squad Finder. How do we fix this? Truly unacceptable. We must purge the tainted EZ mode beings from our channel
PURGE THEM.
By the way, does this mean that Marauader will be purged as well? Or will he maintain an "Honorary" status?
"All war is deception." "He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot, will be victorious" -Sun Tzu
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Knight Soiaire
Taco Eating Ninja Monkeys
2946
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:51:00 -
[3385] - Quote
What we need is Lvl 5 Channel Dampening!
Or
A new Scout channel.
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Oswald Rehnquist
383
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:52:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Running against Red Star in PC tonight was an eye opener of how useless scouts truly are in PC.
While I was easily able to flank around the city and enemy home objective and sneak in for the occasional hack, it was impossible to get back out because there was instantly a tank rolling in with a heavy to mow me down and nothing I could do against him. And then so many times I'd reach an objective guarded by just one heavy and be unable to get even close because even after fluxing his shields down he killed me with a toxin SMG before I could finish off his armour with my proto SMG.
I'm trying to wrap my head around how scouts could be made competitive in PC but struggling. Even if we had speed and stealth working properly, all they need is a lone heavy watching an objective and there's no way we can get in there. If we run with other teammates in PC we're already foregoing our stealth and speed, so what's the point in using a scout suit instead of a medium?
The only solution I can come up with is some sort of damage bonus, so that if we do manage to get the jump on someone we can take them out instead of them just shrugging off a few bullets and smacking us down.
1) Disengagement Mechanic
2) Debuffing
Is how we will make a dent in PC, to make them unique I still think they should be active modules on the scout suit
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Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:56:00 -
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1) Disengagement is useful but only serves to further relegate our ability to kill. We need ways to be able to effectively engage!
2) Debuffing could help but I'm not too sure how much and we are certainly a long way off from it too.
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Cass Caul
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.02 21:57:00 -
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Scouts, former Scouts, and part-time Scouts and future Scouts are allowed. non-scouts are not.
As to DjangoQuick. my PC scout suit is 1 basic shield extender, toxin SMG k5, 2 kincats, 1 cardreg, 1 complex codebreaker. and ishukone gauged uplinks.
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1 basic shield extender K5 shttot, toxin SMG, 3 complex codebreakers 1 basic dampener and Ishukone Gauged Flux Uplinks.
All I do is ninja hack. and uplink deployment. a copy of the second suit exists so I can drop all 9 protouplinks at a time |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:12:00 -
[3389] - Quote
Cass Caul wrote:As to DjangoQuick. my PC scout suit is 1 basic shield extender, toxin SMG k5, 2 kincats, 1 cardreg, 1 complex codebreaker. and ishukone gauged uplinks.
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1 basic shield extender K5 shttot, toxin SMG, 3 complex codebreakers 1 basic dampener and Ishukone Gauged Flux Uplinks.
All I do is ninja hack. and uplink deployment. a copy of the second suit exists so I can drop all 9 protouplinks at a time Yeah, I've come to realise that the only way to scout in tough PC matches is to forget any notion of conflict altogether.
I've been running with a basic dampener but actually find that much of the time there's very little scanning, even against Redstar only occasionally did they even try and I don't know if they were proto scanners or not because they couldn't get me anyway. The stupid thing was that I could tell that they knew where I was anyway because I could see red dots coming my way every time it flashed up "Scan attempt prevented". The "Some margin of error" message needs to go. That **** is total BS.
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Oswald Rehnquist
384
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:18:00 -
[3390] - Quote
Django Quik wrote:1) Disengagement is useful but only serves to further relegate our ability to kill. We need ways to be able to effectively engage! 2) Debuffing could help but I'm not too sure how much and we are certainly a long way off from it too.
The idea is we do well when we engage on our terms, we only do well when we engage in the odds are entirely in our favor, and we do really bad when we misread, having a mechanic to help our reduce our margin of error would be nice.
Debuffing is also a form of engaging, its also not too out of the question, its no harder than making new equipment that interacts with dropsuits
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