Proposal v2 - Scout Racial Bonuses
CA - Base Range (+10%), Cloak Efficacy (10% less cloakblind)
GA - Base Range (+05%), Scanner Efficacy (10% faster cooldown)
AM - Base Stamina (+10%), Biotic Efficacy (+5%)
MN - Base Hacks, Knife Efficacy (no change)

Thoughts?

Also... AM bonus leaves a lot to be desired... unless biotic efficacy includes Myos and Kincats.

That's the plan. Biotics = MyoFibs, KinCats, CardRegs.

This proposal would have me speccing into CA*, because I don't run an active scanner on my GA scout, as I tend to use cloak plus an UL or RE. One of the things I love about the GA is the extra precision is actually a lot more useful than people give it credit for.

I almost feel CA and GA should be swapped in your proposal. If I'm a CA traditionalist running a RR, a little extra range is nice but I'd be flanking and using the scanner to keep and eye on targets outside of passives. A Gal shot gunner is probably going to be in such close range that a lot of people would be on their passives anyway... unless they're cloaked.

1. But do you run the risk of AM becoming the speed suit? Or my efficacy do you mean fitting cost?

2. Either way... it's more sounding like a GA nerf than an overall scout buff. Though with reduced scans it might still work. Just saying if I was a CA+RR I'd rather have the Scanner and a GA+SG I'd rather have reduced cloak blindness.

Excellent points ...

My concern is that if the Gal keeps the profile bonus, Active Scanners won't be reigned in. Counter-recon will point to the GalScout anytime their low-precision scans are called into question. As those low-precision scans are now PC meta, GalScout usage rates will continue to be disproportionately high.

If at all possible, I'd like to see Scout utility and usage rates equalized in PC.

1. Yes.

2. Totally agree. Thinking we'll push for setting Active Scanners to squad-share. A Scout class bonus can be team-shared active scans. Keeps the sand in the sandbox :-)

Will result in logi rage though...

Hey where's that usage graph that was around a while back? The one showing assaults way ahead.

Though I have to say I am surprised Sentinels are as low on the chart as they seem to be... makes me doubt the data a bit.

I'd love it, but it'd never fly.

Giving a scout anything approaching a damage bonus that's not for a niche hard to use weapon?

As much as I'd love for scouting to become a more glass cannon build the sheer level of rage will be ungodly.

Not that that's ever stopped us.
Gal logis will rage hardest.

I say we attack FA day one.

if they manage to defend it.. they still lose, and we're out nothing!

Proposal v3 - Class Bonuses
* Fitting Reduction to Cloak
* Active Scanners = Teamshare

Proposal v3 - Scout Racial Bonuses
CA - Base Range (+10%), Rail Efficacy (+3% RoF)
GA - Base Range (+05%), Plasma Efficacy (+3% RoF)
AM - Base Stamina (+10%), Biotic Efficacy (+5%)
MN - Base Hacks, Knife Efficacy (no change)

Proposal v3 - Other Items
* Set all Active Scanners = Squad Share
* Remove 15dB scanner from play until spinscanning is fixed
* Remove Active Damp bonus from cloaks

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Assumptions:
* PC usage rates disproportionately favor Gal and Cal
* Kill / Spawn efficiency has declined to UP levels since Echo
* Shimmer improvements are determined to be a non-option
* A mass:movement model is not presently an option

Goals:
* Equalize PC usage rates
* Improve kill/spawn efficiency
* Clearly delineate racial strengths
* Reign in always-on active scans
* Reestablish the Scout's ability to scout
* Reinforce Scout as glass-cannon Assassin
* Normalize baseline EWAR interplay

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Thoughts?

Give gallente scout a bonus to SG
XD
Minmatar have nks
I don't wanna skill back into cloak X(

I'd be pretty fn happy honestly.

Yes! with all-BPO squads.


If we take the district we win!

if they manage to defend it.. they still lose, and we're out nothing!

Also: We don't have KB/M scannerinas.

I have successfully set up a macro on my mouse to do four spins even in the 0.3 second time period ... I know a number of people who use this technique and I also know for certain that some pubstomp squads I've been in refuse to run without using it.

Yes! with all-BPO squads.


If we take the district we win!

if they manage to defend it.. they still lose, and we're out nothing!

Proposal v2 - Scout Racial Bonuses
CA - Base Range (+10%), Cloak Efficacy (10% less cloakblind)
GA - Base Range (+05%), Scanner Efficacy (10% faster cooldown)
AM - Base Stamina (+10%), Biotic Efficacy (+5%)
MN - Base Hacks, Knife Efficacy (no change)

Thoughts?

Looking at that data set, I expect to see light weapon sentinels making a comeback. There's been a much starker drop in HMG usage than Sentinel suit usage.

Not that I ever really minded it in the first place. Back when the HMG was trash and AR ruled all it was legit. It just made me laugh.

Never really understood all the rage about it TBH.

Though I have to say I am surprised Sentinels are as low on the chart as they seem to be... makes me doubt the data a bit.
Though that's "pieces sold" so if you're not dying you don't need to buy I guess.