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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:

Adipem Nothi wrote:

Pseudogenesis wrote:

Can somebody explain dampening a minmatar scout to me like I'm 5? Do I really need 2 complex damps? Is there any use to fitting 1 STD, or 1 ENH, or 2 ENH, or 1 CMP?

Somebody should make a guide on this and update it after every major ewar change ( '-')

MN Scout Scan Profile Progression
32 dB - max skilled, no damps
27 dB - max skilled, basic damp <----- Beats 28dB Scans
23 dB - max skilled, basic damp + basic damp
22 dB - max skilled, basic damp + enhanced damp
21 dB - max skilled, basic damp + complex damp
21 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + enhanced damp
20 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + complex damp <----- Beats 21dB Scans
18 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp
17 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + basic damp
16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + enhanced damp
16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp
15 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + advanced cloak:on
14 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + prototype cloak:on <---- Beats 15 dB Scans

No need to memorize progressions. Your suit's Scan Profile was recently added to in-game fitting summary; it'll update dynamically as you change your loadout. If you're away from the game, Protofits is another option (their EWAR calculations are up-to-date).

hmmm...minja is pretty ****** in PC huh? If you were a field commander, what scout suit + fitting would you want? Bearing in mind your opponents know you're a scout corp?

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J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2295	Posted - 2015.03.14 00:23:00 - [31171] - Quote switched to regular plasma cannon on the jumpy suit. works so nice. No Safety Net. TLDR : XD
Legoose MARKII Nos Nothi 226	Posted - 2015.03.14 00:58:00 - [31172] - Quote J0LLY R0G3R wrote: switched to regular plasma cannon on the jumpy suit. works so nice. But the allotek just destroys vehicles. It's soooo much fun! Who is LeGoose anyway?
El Linterna Verde Mexican Justice League 0	Posted - 2015.03.14 01:18:00 - [31173] - Quote Esto es en realidad uno de los m+ís divertidos alt cuerpo que jam+ís he unido . Liga de la Justicia mexicana pisotear a PC , destruyendo todo en su pasado. Esta es Santo por el camino.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7624	Posted - 2015.03.14 01:21:00 - [31174] - Quote Alt! Spia! Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8476	Posted - 2015.03.14 01:35:00 - [31175] - Quote Well that's a first... Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2159	Posted - 2015.03.14 02:34:00 - [31176] - Quote El Linterna Verde wrote: Esto es en realidad uno de los m+ís divertidos alt cuerpo que jam+ís he unido . Liga de la Justicia mexicana pisotear a PC , destruyendo todo en su pasado. Esta es Santo por el camino. Conozco unas de estas palabras Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
Murt Lesp Leviathan Battalion 275	Posted - 2015.03.14 02:43:00 - [31177] - Quote That awesome feeling when the last bullet from your sidearm nets a headshot kill Logi Forever Scout in Training
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2159	Posted - 2015.03.14 03:45:00 - [31178] - Quote You know, I was right in predicting forum outrage, but I was totally wrong about where that outrage would be directed. I figured it would be towards the BPO or even the backpedal penalty but I never expected this. Stupid salty forums. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 2299	Posted - 2015.03.14 04:08:00 - [31179] - Quote Legoose MARKII wrote: J0LLY R0G3R wrote: switched to regular plasma cannon on the jumpy suit. works so nice. But the allotek just destroys vehicles. It's soooo much fun! oh of course, if i'm going after infantry : basic a vehicle even points a turret at me : allotec No Safety Net. TLDR : XD
Pseudogenesis Nos Nothi 2163	Posted - 2015.03.14 06:00:00 - [31180] - Quote Can somebody explain dampening a minmatar scout to me like I'm 5? Do I really need 2 complex damps? Is there any use to fitting 1 STD, or 1 ENH, or 2 ENH, or 1 CMP? Somebody should make a guide on this and update it after every major ewar change ( '-') Stabby-stabber extraordinaire Gû¼+¦GòÉGòÉn¦ñ I stabbed Rattati once, you know.

Sinboto Simmons Dead Man's Game RUST415 7944	Posted - 2015.03.14 06:09:00 - [31181] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Got my black arse railed in a lagfest against ghost. So many Amarr sentinels I had at least 10 heart attacks. Serious PC advice for DMG You had 150 clones. Why on earth would you let 4 people die 20+ times? At one point, several of them needed to sit back and think "I'm hurting my team every time I die for no reason" GG Though. Lag wasn't that bad, but I know we had a lot of heavies in city. Didn't even bother chasing kills half the time, just worked on removing links, counter-hacking points and switching to AV or MD as needed. I'm just a footsoldier, not my tactics, didn't agree to them. I noticed however some of your Amarr were far too prone to sitting absolutely stil, how you say, boundless REs.... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 2 Born of the Brutor tribe
FLAYLOCK Steve Kinsho Swords Caldari State 483	Posted - 2015.03.14 09:06:00 - [31182] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: You don't have a BPO GalScout!? o.0 Umm...no? Should I have? I looked for the dragonfly everyone seems to talk about - can't find it. That one? I got about 4 or 5 bpo of gal scout, dragon fly on two chars , I got the hunter gal scout bpo ( if that'sthe name, the military patterned one) and the dren sscout . probably a other one laying around. I'll give it to you when trading comes around.
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1641	Posted - 2015.03.14 12:26:00 - [31183] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: You don't have a BPO GalScout!? o.0 Umm...no? Should I have? I looked for the dragonfly everyone seems to talk about - can't find it. That one? I got about 4 or 5 bpo of gal scout, dragon fly on two chars , I got the hunter gal scout bpo ( if that'sthe name, the military patterned one) and the dren sscout . probably a other one laying around. I'll give it to you when trading comes around. wow so much generosity from you all. thx again for the offers.
FLAYLOCK Steve Kinsho Swords Caldari State 484	Posted - 2015.03.14 12:31:00 - [31184] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: You don't have a BPO GalScout!? o.0 Umm...no? Should I have? I looked for the dragonfly everyone seems to talk about - can't find it. That one? I got about 4 or 5 bpo of gal scout, dragon fly on two chars , I got the hunter gal scout bpo ( if that'sthe name, the military patterned one) and the dren sscout . probably a other one laying around. I'll give it to you when trading comes around. wow so much generosity from you all. thx again for the offers. Dude its not a problem, and question is that Corp active?
Bayeth Mal Nos Nothi 2532	Posted - 2015.03.14 13:18:00 - [31185] - Quote Well an OB won the OB challenge... No surprises there. There's still tens of millions of ISK being given away in that challenge, so don't forget about it! We'll bang, OK?
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7629	Posted - 2015.03.14 14:09:00 - [31186] - Quote Pseudogenesis wrote: Can somebody explain dampening a minmatar scout to me like I'm 5? Do I really need 2 complex damps? Is there any use to fitting 1 STD, or 1 ENH, or 2 ENH, or 1 CMP? Somebody should make a guide on this and update it after every major ewar change ( '-') MN Scout Scan Profile Progression 32 dB - max skilled, no damps 27 dB - max skilled, basic damp <----- Beats 28dB Scans 23 dB - max skilled, basic damp + basic damp 22 dB - max skilled, basic damp + enhanced damp 21 dB - max skilled, basic damp + complex damp 21 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + enhanced damp 20 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + complex damp <----- Beats 21dB Scans 18 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp 17 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + basic damp 16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + enhanced damp 16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp 15 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + enhanced cloak:on 14 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + prototype cloak:on <---- Beats 15 dB Scans Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1646	Posted - 2015.03.14 15:30:00 - [31187] - Quote FLAYLOCK Steve wrote: is that Corp active? Nos Nothi? Ai it is. Adipem Nothi wrote: We are presently Upstairs in the Barbershop, home of the Closest Shave in New Eden. The links in question point Downstairs to the Nos Nothi corp forums. Like all other good ideas in this thread, Downstairs was originally conceived by a European. The area came into existence prior to Uprising 1.8 to serve as an information archive / exchange accessible by "The Original Bastards" who had participated in the now defunct Scout Registry project. For reasons which remain unclear, a single exception was made for Arkena Wyrnspire -- the very same FoTM-chasing AR-514 Supremacist and Team Gallente All-Star you see here today. Downstairs was recently repurposed to become a Commons for Nos Nothi Actives and the Original Bastards. To get in on the fun, you'll need to be recruited. If your merc's name is on Page 1 or you're a former member of R0NIN or Legio, you are automatically approved. Otherwise, just hang around the shop and be awesome. All you need is one Bastard to vouch for you.
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1646	Posted - 2015.03.14 15:33:00 - [31188] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Can somebody explain dampening a minmatar scout to me like I'm 5? Do I really need 2 complex damps? Is there any use to fitting 1 STD, or 1 ENH, or 2 ENH, or 1 CMP? Somebody should make a guide on this and update it after every major ewar change ( '-') MN Scout Scan Profile Progression 32 dB - max skilled, no damps 27 dB - max skilled, basic damp <----- Beats 28dB Scans 23 dB - max skilled, basic damp + basic damp 22 dB - max skilled, basic damp + enhanced damp 21 dB - max skilled, basic damp + complex damp 21 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + enhanced damp 20 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + complex damp <----- Beats 21dB Scans 18 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp 17 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + basic damp 16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + enhanced damp 16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp 15 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + advanced cloak:on 14 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + prototype cloak:on <---- Beats 15 dB Scans No need to memorize progressions. Your suit's Scan Profile was recently added to in-game fitting summary; it'll update dynamically as you change your loadout. If you're away from the game, Protofits is another option (their EWAR calculations are up-to-date). hmmm...minja is pretty ****** in PC huh? If you were a field commander, what scout suit + fitting would you want? Bearing in mind your opponents know you're a scout corp?
Haerr Nos Nothi 2499	Posted - 2015.03.14 15:35:00 - [31189] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Can somebody explain dampening a minmatar scout to me like I'm 5? Do I really need 2 complex damps? Is there any use to fitting 1 STD, or 1 ENH, or 2 ENH, or 1 CMP? Somebody should make a guide on this and update it after every major ewar change ( '-') MN Scout Scan Profile Progression 32 dB - max skilled, no damps 27 dB - max skilled, basic damp <----- Beats 28dB Scans 23 dB - max skilled, basic damp + basic damp 22 dB - max skilled, basic damp + enhanced damp 21 dB - max skilled, basic damp + complex damp 21 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + enhanced damp 20 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + complex damp <----- Beats 21dB Scans 18 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp 17 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + basic damp 16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + enhanced damp 16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp 15 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + advanced cloak:on 14 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + prototype cloak:on <---- Beats 15 dB Scans No need to memorize progressions. Your suit's Scan Profile was recently added to in-game fitting summary; it'll update dynamically as you change your loadout. If you're away from the game, Protofits is another option (their EWAR calculations are up-to-date). hmmm...minja is pretty ****** in PC huh? If you were a field commander, what scout suit + fitting would you want? Bearing in mind your opponents know you're a scout corp? Amarr Sentinels with HMGs? ;-)
Haerr Nos Nothi 2499	Posted - 2015.03.14 15:37:00 - [31190] - Quote Kaisar said something about prefering Gal Scout over Min Scout in PC once the enemy team started bringing in Gal Logi scans. Also DPLAK

IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1647	Posted - 2015.03.14 15:40:00 - [31191] - Quote Haerr wrote: Kaisar said something about prefering Gal Scout over Min Scout in PC once the enemy team started bringing in Gal Logi scans. Also DPLAK yeah i dont see a minscout being viable with all its lows used up just to function. got a calscout on an alt - i like the scan range. gal would be good too. TPLAK INTERRUPTUS
Haerr Nos Nothi 2499	Posted - 2015.03.14 15:42:00 - [31192] - Quote SCOUTS GÇö 66145 Scout gk.0 GÇö 25842 GÇö zkillboard Scout ck.0 GÇö 20857 GÇö zkillboard Scout mk.0 GÇö 16396 GÇö zkillboard Scout ak.0 GÇö 3050 GÇö zkillboard (DATA OF SUITS ARE PROTOTYPE SUITS, ISK VARIANT GÇö with any weapon) links to zkillboard where you can see the fits of players who have shown up on killmails for Eve OBs edit: not TPLAK :-(
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 7633	Posted - 2015.03.14 16:04:00 - [31193] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: Pseudogenesis wrote: Can somebody explain dampening a minmatar scout to me like I'm 5? Do I really need 2 complex damps? Is there any use to fitting 1 STD, or 1 ENH, or 2 ENH, or 1 CMP? Somebody should make a guide on this and update it after every major ewar change ( '-') MN Scout Scan Profile Progression 32 dB - max skilled, no damps 27 dB - max skilled, basic damp <----- Beats 28dB Scans 23 dB - max skilled, basic damp + basic damp 22 dB - max skilled, basic damp + enhanced damp 21 dB - max skilled, basic damp + complex damp 21 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + enhanced damp 20 dB - max skilled, enhanced damp + complex damp <----- Beats 21dB Scans 18 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp 17 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + basic damp 16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + enhanced damp 16 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp 15 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + advanced cloak:on 14 dB - max skilled, complex damp + complex damp + complex damp + prototype cloak:on <---- Beats 15 dB Scans No need to memorize progressions. Your suit's Scan Profile was recently added to in-game fitting summary; it'll update dynamically as you change your loadout. If you're away from the game, Protofits is another option (their EWAR calculations are up-to-date). hmmm...minja is pretty ****** in PC huh? If you were a field commander, what scout suit + fitting would you want? Bearing in mind your opponents know you're a scout corp? I don't think a "Scout Corp" would fare very well against any experienced PC Corp. That depends on your battlefield role. GA Scout is overall the best option; they can beat 21dB permascan with enough fitting space left to engage in combat; CA Scout is second best for the same reason. If you're not concerned about beating 21dB scans, then you're way better off running a speed-tanked MN Assault Scout. MN Scout are bad a beating scans and too squishy for combat , but they're great for speed hacking (provided no nearby hostiles or friendlies nearby to keep hostiles at bay). AM Scout has PC-worthy function. GA Scout is also the best option for rushing in uplinks start-of-match or sneaking uplinks behind enemy positions. Combat: MN Assault Scout > GA Scout > CA Scout > MN Scout > AM Scout Utility: GA Scout > MN Scout > CA Scout > AM Scout Best Overall: GA Scout Worst Overall: AM Scout Disclaimer: If Ghost disagrees with anything above, I freely defer. Shoot scout with yes. - Ripley Riley
Ghost Kaisar Negative-Feedback 10603	Posted - 2015.03.14 16:15:00 - [31194] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: hmmm...minja is pretty ****** in PC huh? If you were a field commander, what scout suit + fitting would you want? Bearing in mind your opponents know you're a scout corp? Bring whatever you want for the first foray into battle. The moment you get scanned, fight until you die, and then switch to a more dampened fit. Repeat until you stop getting scanned. This often ends at the triple damp Gal scout, which is precisely why its so popular. That being said, I still prefer my Min Scout in PC. I use it until a 2 damp scout doesn't work anymore, in which I pull out the 2x damp gal scout. Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8478	Posted - 2015.03.14 16:36:00 - [31195] - Quote Haerr wrote: Kaisar said something about prefering Gal Scout over Min Scout in PC once the enemy team started bringing in Gal Logi scans. Also DPLAK This has been the story of the Minja since it came into existence... always less viable than the Gal scout. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 22729	Posted - 2015.03.14 17:18:00 - [31196] - Quote I am curious as to why the Minscout is superior in utility to the Calscout. Is that ranking decision purely because of the hacking ability? Gallente Guide
Llast 326 An Arkhos 6996	Posted - 2015.03.14 17:28:00 - [31197] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I am curious as to why the Minscout is superior in utility to the Calscout. Is that ranking decision purely because of the hacking ability? If that data is over timeGÇª then Cal scout is extremely popular. Min would have a boost from being around longer. MOAR Ladders SpadeGÇª Remember your Warbarge
One Eyed King Nos Nothi 8481	Posted - 2015.03.14 17:28:00 - [31198] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I am curious as to why the Minscout is superior in utility to the Calscout. Is that ranking decision purely because of the hacking ability? I would suggest that maybe its a combination of that, plus a more beneficial slot layout. Unfortunately, Low Slots are where most of the action is and he who has less is less flexible. But I can't say for sure. Former CEO of the Land of the BIind. Any double entendre is unintended I assure you.
IAmDuncanIdaho II Nos Nothi 1648	Posted - 2015.03.14 17:45:00 - [31199] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I am curious as to why the Minscout is superior in utility to the Calscout. Is that ranking decision purely because of the hacking ability? I would guess speed and / or knives also...but I defer to those with PC experience.
Ghost Kaisar Negative-Feedback 10608	Posted - 2015.03.14 17:47:00 - [31200] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: I am curious as to why the Minscout is superior in utility to the Calscout. Is that ranking decision purely because of the hacking ability? Overall Speed and Mobility. Stamina regen combined with speed makes it VERY easy to cover lots of ground fast. Also: HACKS. You can't deny that the base hack speed of a min scout is useful. Even without breakers, compared to other infantry, you take points DAMN fast. The Triple Hack Min Scout is also the primary reason you don't leave a point without at least one person within 15m of it. If you overextend, they WILL take your point from you. Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST Old School Scout, watch out for the knives



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