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CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 2687	Posted - 2014.05.02 12:11:00 - [1] - Quote Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! CCP Frame

ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 787	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:42:00 - [2] - Quote Thanks for using us and trashing us. Makes us feel good. xSivartx is my Heavy. There are many like him, but he is my own... So, other Logi's back off, those are my Warpoints!
Callidus Vanus Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 278	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:42:00 - [3] - Quote WOOT!!! Closed beta bunny, Veteran of Caldari Prime.
Z3R0 GR4VITY Red Star. EoN. 352	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:42:00 - [4] - Quote May as well drop the ps3 version now... "Oh yeah, well where did you buy your clothes, the toilet store?"
RolyatDerTeufel 1755	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:43:00 - [5] - Quote Not sure how I feel Frame...... Twitch.TV Live Stream YouTube Channel
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 284	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:43:00 - [6] - Quote How about telling us what this means for current players? Will all my SP go away? Will it stop being F2P? Will it have insane system requirements? And the fact that it was fifteen minutes of walking around was a huge **** You for all players.
BUGSBUNNY LOONEY ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 66	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:44:00 - [7] - Quote That was disappointing I am a ps3 player and there was nothing for us CEO of ACME SPECIAL FORCES Join our pub Channel ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1369	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:44:00 - [8] - Quote Awful, just awful. This is the biggest let down i have ever had. Even though dust will continue this will splinter the community till there's little point in dust. Thumb Green: "Sorry we can't all magically kill vehicles like you o' great one." I am pretty great Delt for CPM1
Levithunder Butt Hurt Try Hards Primus Federation 201	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:44:00 - [9] - Quote If this means it won't be on ps3 anymore I'm extremly pist for everyone in the primus alliance. (-í° -£-û -í°) against my adversaries.
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 554	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:46:00 - [10] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: How about telling us what this means for current players? Will all my SP go away? Will it stop being F2P? Will it have insane system requirements? A little more on what they plan to do to make it an easy change from PS3 to PC would have been nice. We want cake and tea.

Rachel Challoner Tharumec 3	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:47:00 - [11] - Quote so much for cross platform gaming guys thanks p.s. was there no actual in game changes to let us know about
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 2270	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:47:00 - [12] - Quote Would've been nice to get a DUST 514 keynote at the DUST 514 keynote. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 284	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:48:00 - [13] - Quote Quote: Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. In other words: You'll make a few small patches for the game until the PC version takes off. Then you will drop Dust like a hot potato.
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 389	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:48:00 - [14] - Quote lol a keynote on a game that doesn't exist You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all. ~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
Jin no kami Valor Coalition Red Whines. 51	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:49:00 - [15] - Quote This community on PS3 is getting smaller makes sense to take it where they are more comfortable might be on other systems as well you never know
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3537	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:49:00 - [16] - Quote Is DUST going to be a subset of the Legion project? Will the two games connect or does that just make the process too complicated? What features do you still plan on adding to DUST? Bitter Vet // QA: Learn It, Love It, Do It // @ReesNoturana
The Attorney General 2678	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:49:00 - [17] - Quote So a team that stuggled to put together a cohesive experience is now being split so that both products suffer? Good choice. So glad I stopped playing before this. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
Government CheeseBurger 731	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:50:00 - [18] - Quote So many questions. 2 more years of SoonTM? Dust 514 Is dead to me.
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2841	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:50:00 - [19] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Thanks for using us and trashing us. Makes us feel good. exactly...wtf...I feel so used. Like we were test subjects...all of the aur spent and time invested. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
LittleCuteBunny 446	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:51:00 - [20] - Quote LOL Spitting all over the community you had, love it. Retired.

The-Errorist 664	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:51:00 - [21] - Quote What about PS4?
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 397	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:51:00 - [22] - Quote What about aimbots on PC? Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 458	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:51:00 - [23] - Quote Z3R0 GR4VITY wrote: May as well drop the ps3 version now... Quite, once on PC, I'll bin dust I've been and done the PC gamine , had enough of it and won't go back to it. The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3540	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:52:00 - [24] - Quote Once Legion ships the PS3 is going to be unplugged. Bitter Vet // QA: Learn It, Love It, Do It // @ReesNoturana
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1376	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:52:00 - [25] - Quote Thisishowyoukillthecommunity.jpg Thumb Green: "Sorry we can't all magically kill vehicles like you o' great one." I am pretty great Delt for CPM1
Victoria Amarrus Yada Industries 4	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:52:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! Oh well... goodbye dust..... thanks for nothing more then empty promises... your new project can go f*** off.....
Mordecai Sanguine What The French Red Whines. 630	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:52:00 - [27] - Quote Melchiah ARANeAE wrote: Sole Fenychs wrote: How about telling us what this means for current players? Will all my SP go away? Will it stop being F2P? Will it have insane system requirements? A little more on what they plan to do to make it an easy change from PS3 to PC would have been nice. Like buying me a Gamer PC ?
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 458	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:52:00 - [28] - Quote BUGSBUNNY LOONEY wrote: That was disappointing I am a ps3 player and there was nothing for us No mention of PVP, NOTHING. !!! The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2977	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:53:00 - [29] - Quote We as a communty called this months ago. I for one cant wait to sink my teeth into this clearly better excuted product. Dust failed you guys got what u wanted its now dead, i shall be joining my pc brothers in a better place :-D "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 290	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:53:00 - [30] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Thisishowyoukillthecommunity.jpg The hilarious thing is that it was directly after a "you are the best community!" statement. That statement alone made it obvious that this guy will be talking lots of bullshit in the future.

Brigitte Newt The Rainbow Effect 86	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:54:00 - [31] - Quote So, will we be able to transfer our characters from playstation to PC?
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3540	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:55:00 - [32] - Quote Doesn't the architecture of the PS4 align more closely with the PC? The PS3 is just too limiting but maybe the console players can upgrade to modern hardware. Bitter Vet // QA: Learn It, Love It, Do It // @ReesNoturana
Rachel Challoner Tharumec 3	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:56:00 - [33] - Quote Quote: One of the highlights of our DUST 514 Keynote was a sneak peek at Project Legion you mean there where other things in that keynote?
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3540	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:56:00 - [34] - Quote Will HOTAS and Oculus Rift be a possibility for flying Dropships in Legion? Bitter Vet // QA: Learn It, Love It, Do It // @ReesNoturana
Ghural The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 192	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:57:00 - [35] - Quote Please let us know whether we will have to start at 0 or if we will be able to transfer our characters over from Dust514
Jaina - Drien Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:57:00 - [36] - Quote Yea the same people over and over who can't stop their rage, they don't realize a thing. Dust would never became what we want if continue developed on ps3. Going to ps4 would be the same, no freedom in every way.
Beartrocity TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 15	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:58:00 - [37] - Quote Hey. Should give us ps3 guys a respec. For old times sake. Kota's Tank Rager
Levithunder Butt Hurt Try Hards Primus Federation 201	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:58:00 - [38] - Quote Spend months of hard work for the same game on a diffrent device? Going to fanfest and make it sound like we are getting p2p trading and pve ? You've just killed off this community to trade it in for a new one:/ if I don't get a dev blog explaining ALL the details IM DONE! (-í° -£-û -í°) against my adversaries.
Daddrobit PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 626	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:59:00 - [39] - Quote Wow... So that's it huh.... I've been playing this game as one of the very first closed beta testers for well over a year and spending my money hoping against hope that the game will be brought to this or this or even this and now I find that I'm just going to be relegated to the same lobby shooter we've had for the past year... All that faith I had. I honestly just feel a bit empty right now... #SaveTheBreach
LittleCuteBunny 446	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:59:00 - [40] - Quote Legion will melt PS4s Retired.

Victoria Amarrus Yada Industries 7	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:59:00 - [41] - Quote Victoria Amarrus wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! Oh well... goodbye dust..... thanks for nothing more then empty promises... your new project can go f*** off..... Also... if I wanted to play an eve-related product on the pc, I'll just f'king play EvE.... I loved dust b/c I could play it when my pc was otherwise occupied. Sometimes you guys really get your heads up your asses... like, seriously....
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 459	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:59:00 - [42] - Quote Having watched the keynotes, I doubt that what I've seen will be available on PS3. IT WILL KILL DUST514 OF PS3 The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
Jaina - Drien Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.05.02 13:59:00 - [43] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: Awful, just awful. This is the biggest let down i have ever had. Even though dust will continue this will splinter the community till there's little point in dust. How could this split community. Most of people from PS3 were raging at everything and barely understand what EVE Universe is all about...
crazy space 1 GunFall Mobilization 2255	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:00:00 - [44] - Quote Wait, so it's 2 separate games? WHAT? my sp ;_;
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2001	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:00:00 - [45] - Quote The game looks beautiful and i'm sure that none of us was believing in long future for dust on PS3, but port it only to PC instead of PC/PS4.... You have stabbed your playerbase CCP. I can't afford to buy a new PC that will be old in a couple of years, for a single game, i've my notebook but legion will not run on it. The unnamed new build it's so secret that nobody know what will be in it, even after patch notes.. Bròt Ninè
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 929	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:02:00 - [46] - Quote While the tech demo of Eve: Legion was stunning--I mean it was fantastic--the keynote left so much to be desired. Is Dust on console (PS3 and PS4) dead? What happens to our current Mercs? Will Dust and Legion connect? Will it be supported on Mac? When should we expect to see Legion released? Overall, the "keynote" really felt unpolished. There should have been much more concrete information released. Otherwise, we're just left in limbo with a bunch of questions, and that never feels good. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2977	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:03:00 - [47] - Quote If you guys stop freaking out more sand in the sandbox is likely aimed at Dust514 :-D "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Z3R0 GR4VITY Red Star. EoN. 359	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:03:00 - [48] - Quote I like how the "Dust 514 Keynote" only had to do with the pc port and nothing else, also only lasting 25 mins... what a ******* joke. How can you call that a keynote when nothing really pertained to the status of Dust on ps3 and what we can expect? "Oh yeah, well where did you buy your clothes, the toilet store?"
ziphis erata Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:04:00 - [49] - Quote I would believe this is too seperate games so why are you guys tearing up on the subject? no offence but i'm assuming half the people on here can run eve so i would assume their pc would be able to run the pc version Honestly please stop crying on the forums you'd do alot better <3 Big Loves Ziphis
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 295	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:06:00 - [50] - Quote I will laugh like a madman if Project Legion turns out like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsXqI2qKHAI That's why PS4 would be the sane choice. They'll basically be forced to make it P2P if they do a PC version, to weaken the hacking issue that any PC FPS will have.

Odigos Ellinas Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 160	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:09:00 - [51] - Quote **** you CCP !!! This will help the game
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 459	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:09:00 - [52] - Quote SO BASICALLY YOU SCREW THE PS3 USER FOR THE CASH TO BUILD THE PC VERSION, CAN I HAVE MY MONEY BACK ! The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
ziphis erata Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:10:00 - [53] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: SO BASICALLY YOU SCREW THE PS3 USER FOR THE CASH TO BUILD THE PC VERSION, CAN I HAVE MY MONEY BACK ! No
RydogV Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 715	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:10:00 - [54] - Quote This is a ***** travesty. THAT WAS YOUR KEYNOTE CCP?! A look back at all the garbage and oh, by the way, we are working on bringing the game to PC someday?! Nothing, not a frigging inkling of how the players who have been grinding out on this CONSOLE game for the last two years are going to be impacted. No *** indication of what our fate in the EVE Online universe will be?! YOU HAVE TO BE *** KIDDING ME!!! I am thoroughly embarrassed at how much money I contributed to this FREE TO PLAY game, because I believed in the VISION that I was sold. Goddam Snake-Oil is what it was. Not a single indication of where we stand. No acknowledgement of the contribution we have made. Not a single ***** ounce of hope for our continued participation. I am disgusted. I Drank The Snake-Oil CCP Sold Me. I Am Not Proud...Here Endith The Lesson.
Jimmy McNaulty NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 78	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:11:00 - [55] - Quote Well that was a waste of time tuning into. Next event: every current merc gets some red lipstick and a makeup station in their quarters... just so that we look prettier while CCP fucks us in the ass.
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death Final Resolution. 3215	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:11:00 - [56] - Quote Honestly, there is nothing you could possibly do at this point to regain my trust. **** you, CCP. FUCK YOU TOO CCP
Driftward Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 939	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:11:00 - [57] - Quote Btw, everyone should notice that project legion was running the same maps as Dust. it was the domination bridge map (can't recall the map name) but it was prettified to the point of being unrecognizable. Really conflicted feelings on the whole split between games....
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 3541	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:11:00 - [58] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: I will laugh like a madman if Project Legion turns out like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsXqI2qKHAI That's why PS4 would be the sane choice. They'll basically be forced to make it P2P if they do a PC version, to weaken the hacking issue that any PC FPS will have. CCP has a great anti-hacking team on EVE. Bitter Vet // QA: Learn It, Love It, Do It // @ReesNoturana
NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 399	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:12:00 - [59] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: If you guys stop freaking out more sand in the sandbox is likely aimed at Dust514 :-D More ships(its) in the sandbox you mean... Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
LittleCuteBunny 448	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:13:00 - [60] - Quote PC version looks a lot better. PS3 Development stopped months ago and CCP was just farming Aurum. If they think they can pull this on the PC, after doing his to their player base oh well w/e. There are so many shooter games in the PC on private servers that can do better and they haven't spitted all over their community. Some people will move over, but why would you support a captain that abandons the ship Retired.

Zylahra StormRazor Yada Industries 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:14:00 - [61] - Quote I am so ***** pissed right now that its not even worth quoting the dev. But seriously I think someone labotamized CCP. I mean come on... you spent all the time and energy to make the game and the basically recreated it and now you are basically telling ps3 users "Thanks for being the ignorant guinea pigs we needed you to be! ** off now and have a nice life." Yea I actually feel dirty because of this. I think I am going into full delete mode... I no longer want my name sullied by this garbage any longer. I'm so pissed I am going to be hard pressed to not delete my Eve accounts too.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2844	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:17:00 - [62] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! You don't want to know my impressions. And I'm pretty sure I'd get banned for it. Not that I care overmuch as this point. "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 933	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:17:00 - [63] - Quote Z3R0 GR4VITY wrote: I like how the "Dust 514 Keynote" only had to do with the pc port and nothing else, also only lasting 25 mins... This is really the problem. Considering the size of the giant bomb CCP Rouge dropped, you'd think he'd have filled up the full 60-min slot with as much information as possible on what actually happens now. I mean, Eve Legion was jaw-dropping. But come on. ANY information about what happens next would be nice. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
InsidiousN Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 230	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:18:00 - [64] - Quote What does EVE Legion mean for DUST 514 on the Playstation, will it continue to exist? If not, then what does this mean for our DUST characters, will our stats and resources transfer?
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death Final Resolution. 3215	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:19:00 - [65] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! You don't want to know my impressions. And I'm pretty sure I'd get banned for it. Not that I care overmuch as this point. I'm just going to be swearing on the forums until i'm banned. then I'll do it with an alt. And another. and another. FUCK YOU TOO CCP
KingBlade82 NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 219	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:19:00 - [66] - Quote liked ur keynote???? yeah sure when I feel like we r the inferior version and u guys r moving onto a new game -_- makes me so ******* happy JOIN NECROM0NGERS TODAY need 15 mil SP and a mic
ziphis erata Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:21:00 - [67] - Quote Zylahra StormRazor wrote: I am so ***** pissed right now that its not even worth quoting the dev. But seriously I think someone labotamized CCP. I mean come on... you spent all the time and energy to make the game and then all but recreated it and now you are basically telling ps3 users "Thanks for being the ignorant guinea pigs we needed you to be! ** off now and have a nice life." Yea I actually feel dirty because of this. I think I am going into full delete mode... I no longer want my name sullied by this garbage any longer. I'm so pissed I am going to be hard pressed to not delete my Eve accounts too. Can I have you stuff? (eve question) Also its probably going to be a separate game but you go ahead and delete
ROCKO THE HELLHOUND Ultramarine Corp 49	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:21:00 - [68] - Quote i, strictly playstation-only player, have payed CCP more than 500 bucks via PS-Store to build a PC Game??? fu** you for letting me build a 43mil. SP character for nothing - the sole thing that kept me going was to know that my Playstation-Dust would have a future and is going to be more than a tiny PVP-Lobby-Shooter some day. thanks for screwing this up entirely now.
IgniteableAura Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 979	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:22:00 - [69] - Quote There are lots of questions that need to be answered. I don't understand how that was a keynote speech for dust. It was a keynote for "legion" They are two different games entirely. Really excited and disappointed at the same time. PS3 dust is likely going to slowly die. Also whats the "price" model for Legion? Sub-based or is it still FTP? Will any of our characters transfer over? Lastly I assume SOE was a major factor in moving over to PC, Sony is just too slow at their QA for patches to provide content for a FTP game. This also means Legion can have a real test server. Like I said originally, super excited for Legion, scared for Dust. Vespasian Andendare wrote: Z3R0 GR4VITY wrote: I like how the "Dust 514 Keynote" only had to do with the pc port and nothing else, also only lasting 25 mins... This is really the problem. Considering the size of the giant bomb CCP Rouge dropped, you'd think he'd have filled up the full 60-min slot with as much information as possible on what actually happens now. I mean, Eve Legion was jaw-dropping. But come on. ANY information about what happens next would be nice. They didn't want to give us any expectations, for fear of letting us down. Youtube
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 968	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:22:00 - [70] - Quote So can I have my money back? This was advertised as a game with a 10-year plan and many many more promises were made. This has been shown to be a lie, you charged me for playing a beta. Fixing swarms

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3595	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:23:00 - [71] - Quote The-Errorist wrote: What about PS4? They decided to take the easy way out. It was short sighted. Now it'll be a niche PC game at best. Level 3 Forum Warrior
Haerr Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 523	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:23:00 - [72] - Quote Finally a good decision. I <3 Legion
Archer Yorcot S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 43	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:23:00 - [73] - Quote The three biggest issues haunting this game have been: 1. Atrocious matchmaking system. 2. No PvE to to give new mercs time to develop before facing vets and pro corps 3. No functioning economy that actually delivers on promise of risk vs reward ( lol unlimited protostomping funded by district locking) Keynote lasted for less than 30 minutes and didn't deliver a single, tangible solution to any of these. How much longer does CCP think their player base is going to tolerate this? Until "Legion" is released? Absolutely not. S.e.V.e.N. is not amused. This forum signature is OP.
Levithunder Butt Hurt Try Hards Primus Federation 203	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:25:00 - [74] - Quote All we wanted ccp was: -better NPE -better PC -PVE -P2P trading -buying,selling,trading on the marketplace But you hired someone with no compassion for the ps3 and now wants to make a PC dust 514.......... I just donno anymore u care so much about something and the people in charge of it ruin it;( it breaks my heart;(. (-í° -£-û -í°) against my adversaries.
Levithunder Butt Hurt Try Hards Primus Federation 203	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:28:00 - [75] - Quote Archer Yorcot wrote: The three biggest issues haunting this game have been: 1. Atrocious matchmaking system. 2. No PvE to to give new mercs time to develop before facing vets and pro corps 3. No functioning economy that actually delivers on promise of risk vs reward ( lol unlimited protostomping funded by district locking) Keynote lasted for less than 30 minutes and didn't deliver a single, tangible solution to any of these. How much longer does CCP think their player base is going to tolerate this? Until "Legion" is released? Absolutely not. S.e.V.e.N. is not amused. We must stick togeather in these times of war and fight are advisories called ccp. (-í° -£-û -í°) against my adversaries.
MR-NASTY Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 196	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:29:00 - [76] - Quote No more money ever F You
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2870	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:29:00 - [77] - Quote Daddrobit wrote: Wow... So that's it huh.... I've been playing this game as one of the very first closed beta testers for well over a year and spending my money hoping against hope that the game will be brought to this or this or even this and now I find that I'm just going to be relegated to the same lobby shooter we've had for the past year... All that faith I had. I honestly just feel a bit empty right now... who are you telling...why couldn't they just be honest and kept dust as a beta for Legion? I don't even know what to say anymore..I'm so fugging disappointed. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
DJINN Stephani 241	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:30:00 - [78] - Quote This didn't answer any of the questions about the fate of Dust, tranfering characters, ps4, and a hundred other things "20,000 years in the future"
Haerr Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 523	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:31:00 - [79] - Quote InsidiousN wrote: What does EVE Legion mean for DUST 514 on the Playstation, will it continue to exist? If not, then what does this mean for our DUST characters, will our stats and resources transfer? I wouldn't mind keeping my ~50 mil SP but I honestly don't care if we have to start at 0. DUST ON PC! YES! YES! YES! \o/ I want to throw my money at you CCP, but I'll wait until we get more information on Legion. I <3 Legion
Levithunder Butt Hurt Try Hards Primus Federation 207	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:31:00 - [80] - Quote Ohh yeah and one last thing, showing me a tree and clocking past a tank with good graphics dosent impress me. Well the tree kinda does BUT ONLY IF IT'S A PS3 TREE! (-í° -£-û -í°) against my adversaries.

NextDark Knight Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 402	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:36:00 - [81] - Quote Levithunder wrote: Ohh yeah and one last thing, showing me a tree and clocking past a tank with good graphics dosent impress me. Well the tree kinda does BUT ONLY IF IT'S A PS3 TREE! The tree comment was to Bamm Havoc.. This just shows that he pays more attention to youtubers then the actual community. Forge Changes needed Officer Splash 3.0, Proto 2.7 Advanced 2.5 Standard 2.1. Original ROF needs to return!
LittleCuteBunny 451	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:39:00 - [82] - Quote CCP Rogue wrote: Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. The journey continues. Conitnues... in Graveyard 514 Graveyard 514 Project Legion is a different game, meaning nothing you do in Dust 514 will port to it.
Maximus Tarashara Red Star. EoN. 39	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:40:00 - [83] - Quote Z3R0 GR4VITY wrote: May as well drop the ps3 version now... Yeah, end this madness now! Also known as the pet shop owner of Red Star.
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 937	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:41:00 - [84] - Quote It really feels like we've seen this all before....way back in 2009. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
Votan Quetzalcoatl Morriganed 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:42:00 - [85] - Quote Je parlerais fran+ºais m+¬me si c'est interdit par votre soi disant "charte" du forum. De toute fa+ºon vous ne nous respectez pas. Vous m'avez trop d+¬gout+¬... Vous me faites chier !!!!!
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 439	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:43:00 - [86] - Quote This is starting to feel like an Electronic Arts kind if move... There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
RydogV Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 724	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:43:00 - [87] - Quote I don't really care that they decided to bring in PC. What enrages me is that we have no hope for what the future of the game is on console. They started 10 minutes late to what was suppose to be a 1 hour Keynote...dropped a bomb...and then walked off the stage with over 20 minutes left in their block time. I would have respected them more if they flew to Maine (USA)...drove to my house, rung the doorbell and slapped me in the face when I answered the door. I Drank The Snake-Oil CCP Sold Me. I Am Not Proud...Here Endith The Lesson.
ziphis erata Algintal Core Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:43:00 - [88] - Quote Help!!! E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Tear bucket filling quickly
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 462	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:44:00 - [89] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: Having watched the keynotes, I doubt that what I've seen will be available on PS3. IT WILL KILL DUST514 OF PS3 The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2276	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:45:00 - [90] - Quote worst company ever.... I only wish I stopped supporting you guys sooner.... hope you all lose your jobs. this game makes me sad....

DJINN Stephani 244	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:45:00 - [91] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: Levithunder wrote: Ohh yeah and one last thing, showing me a tree and clocking past a tank with good graphics dosent impress me. Well the tree kinda does BUT ONLY IF IT'S A PS3 TREE! The tree comment was to Bamm Havoc.. This just shows that he pays more attention to youtubers then the actual community. The tree thing has been around for a while. I don't think it started with Bamm "20,000 years in the future"
Joey-Number1 Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven 93	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:46:00 - [92] - Quote Some console players are so enraged that they don't think clearly anymore, when did they ever do tho. Players from consoles do not realize what EVE Universe is about, they have no idea of it's complexity, deep backstory and scale. It would never reach these states on PS3 or PS4. Minmatar Logistics since the beginning. Mass Driver my first and the only fully specialized weapon. Explorer.
bunnywink 672	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:47:00 - [93] - Quote Honestly, I think it was very misleading and even tasteless to announce an independent game for the PC at the DUST514 keynote. We want to know what will be happening to DUST514, not Project Legion. The new project deserved it's own keynote. =( GåÇßå¦GåÇ )= ...Meow. G£+ We might be hollow, but we're brave.
DJINN Stephani 244	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:47:00 - [94] - Quote LittleCuteBunny wrote: CCP Rogue wrote: Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. The journey continues. Conitnues... in Graveyard 514 So we get the lobby shooter and legion gets what we were promised? "20,000 years in the future"
RED-EYE -JEDI G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 165	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:47:00 - [95] - Quote if you announce this for PS4 im happy, but just PC. great way to kill your console player base. im moving to Destiny then, and back to dark souls 2. Round of applause to CCP. for killing there community. I take my hat of to you. its impressive you can actually **** off all of us dust bunnies at the same time. or should I say DUST guinea pigs ? Forge Gun = Mechanised Hadouken
smoking the kind RestlessSpirits 11	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:48:00 - [96] - Quote This might have been big news for people working at CCP but for Dust 514 players it is a slap in the face and I feel like CCP just broke up with us by introducing us to there new significant other, but at least they said we can still be friends.
RED-EYE -JEDI G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 168	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:54:00 - [97] - Quote smoking the kind wrote: This might have been big news for people working at CCP but for Dust 514 players it is a slap in the face and I feel like CCP just broke up with us by introducing us to there new significant other, but at least they said we can still be friends. yeah exactly its like breaking up, but via text or email. the worst way to brake up its damn right rude Forge Gun = Mechanised Hadouken
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 462	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:55:00 - [98] - Quote AT LEAST I KNOW NOW WHY THERE;S BEEN NO MMORE MENTION OF THE VITA APP, IT GET SCRAPPED TOO. The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 2277	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:55:00 - [99] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: Quote: Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. In other words: You'll make a few small patches for the game until the PC version takes off. Then you will drop Dust like a hot potato. with the way they handle fps games, I don't have much hope they can do better on PC.... wonder how many let downs the fanbois need before they wake the hell up... this game makes me sad....
Slash Frenzy Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 35	Posted - 2014.05.02 14:59:00 - [100] - Quote Finally! PC is a platform where A) all the performance is there and B) you don-¦t have to be SONY-¦s bit**. Good move! I bought a PS3 (actually 3) just for this game and that-¦s while I-¦m still unemployed. Now I have a reason to save for an uber-PC for this game. Love it. Tomorrow I-¦m going to put my PS3 on ebay. Won-¦t play a dead game with poor kb/m support anymore. Hope my SP and booster can be transferred to LEGION. Otherwise, a new grind begins. Best day of this year!

DraC0X BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 28	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:00:00 - [101] - Quote A Big F**** U for U CCP.... Thanks for using us and leaving us dead along the Road.
Slash Frenzy Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 35	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:02:00 - [102] - Quote When will there be Beta-testing keys for Legion out??? How to get them?
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 325	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:12:00 - [103] - Quote Great news! Dust has to be on the PC to be the proper sandbox we all dream of....and to overcome most of its other limitations. I just hope they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, especially boosters. We should be able to gain SP faster than new players for a while so it doesn't take forever to be as competitive as we've been here....and since we spent real money.
BlackWinter RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 85	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:13:00 - [104] - Quote RED-EYE -JEDI wrote: smoking the kind wrote: This might have been big news for people working at CCP but for Dust 514 players it is a slap in the face and I feel like CCP just broke up with us by introducing us to there new significant other, but at least they said we can still be friends. yeah exactly its like breaking up, but via text or email. the worst way to brake up its damn right rude Nothing worse than getting dumped by text. Except when you realize that the money you've been giving her shes been using to update some other bum. Like Wtf? I guess this is how most of you feel. Luckily for me I set the bar low, and Dust was more like a chick with low Self-esteem I could use at my whim until I found something I really wanted. All Cal Everything!
Joey-Number1 Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven 93	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:16:00 - [105] - Quote Some console players are so enraged that they don't think clearly anymore, when did they ever do tho. Players from consoles do not realize what EVE Universe is about, they have no idea of it's complexity, deep backstory and scale. It would never reach these states on PS3 or PS4. It can become anything we want on PC, lets focus on the best sides. Noone is screwing console community, they never even cared for the EVE Universe. Minmatar Logistics since the beginning. Mass Driver my first and the only fully specialized weapon. Explorer.
Disturbingly Bored Forum Warfare 2246	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:24:00 - [106] - Quote Welp... it's been fun guys. I used to own the FAT GAT until this --> [ASCII Art removed - *draconian forum overlord* CCP Logibro]
Shane999 Stalkers The Alpha PaK1 10	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:24:00 - [107] - Quote Thank you ccp for wasting my last few months i will never play your games again. I knew better than to buy aur **** from these scamming fucks. Why go to pc and not ps4? it makes no since. Time to run proto for the next few weeks and trash this game since its dead. NO ONE BUY ANYTHING ELSE TO FUND CCP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS MAKE SURE THEY GET NO MORE MONEY FROM CONSOLE GAMERS.
DELB0Y 5	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:25:00 - [108] - Quote Thanks for the short Dust keynote CCP, you really showed us the love there! If our SP doesn't carry over to Legion that will also be another massive slap in the face. Thanks for releasing it on PC tho but please don't FUK us current Dust players when we start ploughing our money into Legion for you. You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
Beld Errmon 1619	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:25:00 - [109] - Quote Woot finally dust is going where it has always belonged, can't wait to finally retire this piece of trash console and get back to gaming on the rig my partner and I have built for real gaming. Pilot - Tanker - FOTM (insert here)
BlackWinter RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 87	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:28:00 - [110] - Quote Joey-Number1 wrote: Some console players are so enraged that they don't think clearly anymore, when did they ever do tho. Players from consoles do not realize what EVE Universe is about, they have no idea of it's complexity, deep backstory and scale. It would never reach these states on PS3 or PS4. It can become anything we want on PC, lets focus on the best sides. Noone is screwing console community, they never even cared for the EVE Universe. So why bring your funky asses from pc to our world in the first place? You dangle false hopes and promise, and then realize you wrote a check you can't cash so you cut bait and run. I don't want to hear the world is complex blah blah. Anyone with basic reading comprehension and patience can just sit and read the backstory to Eve. I'm speaking form a general pov and not rage, but these people have a right to be mad. All Cal Everything!

Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 464	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:36:00 - [111] - Quote Legion has no COMMANDO, temporary The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4531	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:36:00 - [112] - Quote BlackWinter RND wrote: Joey-Number1 wrote: Some console players are so enraged that they don't think clearly anymore, when did they ever do tho. Players from consoles do not realize what EVE Universe is about, they have no idea of it's complexity, deep backstory and scale. It would never reach these states on PS3 or PS4. It can become anything we want on PC, lets focus on the best sides. Noone is screwing console community, they never even cared for the EVE Universe. So why bring your funky asses from pc to our world in the first place? You dangle false hopes and promise, and then realize you wrote a check you can't cash so you cut bait and run. I don't want to hear the world is complex blah blah. Anyone with basic reading comprehension and patience can just sit and read the backstory to Eve. I'm speaking form a general pov and not rage, but these people have a right to be mad. All this time spent only for them to go back to the Pc which will get more and more resources pushed in it's direction. Blackwinter is right. I put $200 into this game early on, because I saw potential in this, and I wanted to support this company. A year later and look at this. "Hey, thanks for being test subjects! We are going to move the PC now, and everyone should go there! We will still update here, but the REAL Dust514 will be on PC. I don't have a good gaming PC, so I guess all of my money will have gone toward a game that I can't even even play. GG CCP. It's been fun, but I'll be jumping ship at Destiny. Serves me right for putting faith in you. I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
RydogV Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 729	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:37:00 - [113] - Quote I am anxious to see the graph and spreadsheet that depicts the dramatic falloff of AURUM purchases after this announcement. May 2, 2014......Black Friday of Dust 514. I Drank The Snake-Oil CCP Sold Me. I Am Not Proud...Here Endith The Lesson.
Gabriella Grey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 110	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:40:00 - [114] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! So Project Legion is on its way. Will it also be mac friendly like Eve? *Always Grey Skies*
KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 729	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:40:00 - [115] - Quote So we were oficially the beta testers for a PC game, great... This explains why it took 4 months for 1.8 to come, and to add insult to injury it came broken with ridiculous bugs, unexplainable absence of quality control and still being fixed. You insulted your player base and the PS3 community who still loved this game. Tech Guard Recruiting Video
Brian LaFleur Falconpunch Hatesurfers 27	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:42:00 - [116] - Quote RED-EYE -JEDI wrote: if you announce this for PS4 im happy, but just PC. great way to kill your console player base. im moving to Destiny then, and back to dark souls 2. Round of applause to CCP. for killing there community. I take my hat of to you. its impressive you can actually ** off all of us dust bunnies at the same time. or should I say DUST guinea pigs ? Not surprised, really. CCP does what's best for CCP. I haven't logged into dust for a week. Ah, well. ** CCP and their Project Legion. ESO for ps4 it is! Petals within petals, tadpole; The truth lies beneath an opulence of illusion.
Jin no kami Valor Coalition Red Whines. 51	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:44:00 - [117] - Quote Its something unpredictable but in the end it's right I hope you had the time of your life thanks for the fun times guys =ƒÖê=ƒÖë=ƒÖè=ƒÖì=ƒÿó
is111 DUST BRASIL S.A Caps and Mercs 8	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:47:00 - [118] - Quote 2 years...2 DAMN YEARS SPEND IN THIS GAME, AND NOW CCP JUST SHOT US IN THE FACE...i'm really desappointed, lots of players don't have good PC's, but ccp just want everyone to play legion...2 years being a fuckin' tester in this forever beta game, GG CCP, you throw a game in the trash, so many time spend to make Dust...all this time on trash just to make legion...CCP, u lost all the base now
Odigos Ellinas Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 163	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:48:00 - [119] - Quote For all the ppl who think they there will be a character transfer to project legion!!! LOL READ THE DEV BLOG 2 INDEPENDETLY games !!! Wake up laboratory rats !!!! CCP Shanghai is a small team that was always my excuse to defend CCP why it takes so long to fix the game. If you believe they will work primary on Dust ( a game with the worst reviews ) and not on project legion ( a new start to do things right from the beginning ) you don't know what you are talking about. This will help the game
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3025	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:48:00 - [120] - Quote Will Fox Gaden be able to migrate to Project Legion or will I have to create a new character? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.

Nemo Nauticlone Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 113	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:50:00 - [121] - Quote I have personally spent around $800 dollars on this game if you include the eve collectors edition and the ps3 I bought SPECIFICALLY for DUST 514. and personally, with the answers the panel is giving right now. I feel like CCP is giving me the finger and telling the DUST community as a whole to go **** ourselves. I hope you realize CCP that you have just made ALL of us feel really alienated and will lost a good fraction of your playerbase due to this. I will be here till the bitter end, watching this once glorious dream of ours crumble around our ears. Nemo the Necromantic Nautilord (YAY FOR LOGIBROS!!!) A.K.A. CEO of NCM
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2331	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:51:00 - [122] - Quote Why did the monetization guy give the design talk?
Minmatars True Power FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE 2	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:51:00 - [123] - Quote Just please don't forget about dust on the PS3. Very large corps will fall apart, everyone rages, Boom! They blow up! LOL . BUT DONT FORGET ABOUT THE PS3 WATCH OUT FOR MY SHOTGUN! :P
Stupid Blueberry Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 246	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:53:00 - [124] - Quote Levithunder wrote: If this means it won't be on ps3 anymore I'm extremly pist for everyone in the primus alliance. haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa get wrecked levi. #PCMASTERRACE Ishukone loyalist and Caldari Scout enthusiast. Nerf the CR so I can justify using something else!
CELESTA AUNGM Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 156	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:56:00 - [125] - Quote Wow.... And I don't mean the Keynote/ Blog thing from CCP-Rouge. I mean the grunting and morbidness of US, console players---we act like such defeatists. Are YOU the players I play alongside in this game? All due courtesy to him, but CCP-Rouge's "speech" in this blog was spoken like a true vulnerable politician/CEO. He's fitted the speech with the corporation-presentation-to-public phrases that are customary in his field (and unfortunately sound blander than corporate persons perceive): "It's been our pleasure, and will continue to be", or "Looking forward with new excitement", or "Our mission has always had three cardinal principles", are phrases you may hear in any CEO's presentation, and I THINK you read variations of these phrases in Rouge's statement. But it's a statement that is meant to state nothing, and is usually too timid to even want to intentionally IMPLY anything. The only "inference" I get (and I get it more from CCP's behavior over the past two months, NOT much from this dev-blog entry), is that the company has only made a single internal decision about this Dust/Eve hurdle it's stuck on, doesn't know how far around the hurdle the decision will go (or maybe hasn't yet made all the detailed decisions that follow the single first decision they just made), and honestly don't want to TRY to talk 'suppositions' and 'maybes' to the public because that stuff just triggers "A Run on the Bank". I don't blame any CEO or company for that. When the only real answer is "We're trying something new...we don't know yet if it will work--we have to continue pushing on both the new and old and see where it goes" , OMG you know you can't say that at your company's presentation/conference. But you gotta say something... Public's drooling like fanatics... So you give the public what CCP Rouge gave: "Warm and Mushy, and Hope to See You All As Stage-2 Begins!". ...Face it, that's all the announcement really said. If you find something in there to make you feel sad or stabbed in the back, you're making up that ghost yourself. When I read about opening a player account on Dust 514, I understood it was giving no promises, but it WAS on a CONDITION: The condition is that this hasn't ever been tried before, so players will have to put up with changes and updates, and we'll see. Stay with us please, but remember CELESTA, we don't know JACK about whether this all will work...it's an experiment. I made up my mind and said "okay" to that busride a year ago. It's been MORE than two years for some of you, and some of you STILL have yet to make up your mind to ride along on something unknown, or climb off the bus because it's too unpromising for you. ....
Rachel Challoner Tharumec 14	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:58:00 - [126] - Quote Quote: David Reid during IGN interview: "There will never be a DUST 514 TWO, this game has a 10 year lifespan and will outlast all these consoles" anyone remember this
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 254	Posted - 2014.05.02 15:59:00 - [127] - Quote Looks like it's time to pickup a copy of BF4... My other dropsuit is a Python.
Stan Kattel Expert Intervention Caldari State 36	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:05:00 - [128] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. My impressions? My impressions... Okay. You lied to me since closed beta. I supported game that will never exist. So I just want to burn alive some of you. And refund would be nice too. That's all my impressions.
Stan Kattel Expert Intervention Caldari State 36	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:07:00 - [129] - Quote CRNWLLC wrote: Looks like it's time to pickup a copy of BF4... Man, don't do it! Better buy a BF3. Srsly, BF4 is full of annoying little bugs. And on PS3BF3 looks better then BF4. :\
Villanor Aquarius WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 178	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:09:00 - [130] - Quote From the sound and performance of things, the Dust code for PS3 is a convoluted mess. They started out with some seriously high ambitions and a good layout to get there. Along the way it turned out a new engine was needed so things had to be switched over and since then new issues and technical limitations have cropped up endlessly likely only furthering the convolution of the code. Dust514 could never get the sort of features and possibilities it needs to really be great on the PS3 or likely with the code currently in place. By restarting on a platform without such limitations and with the experience gained, CCP can now build a game with a clearly laid out master plan. The code can be developed logically toward that goal to allow for all the planned features. Developing legion separately frees CCP from the tangled code mess while allowing them to use all they have fine tuned with the dust controls. Legion is in a good position to make rapid progress and it offers something completely new. Now when legion is completed, they will have all the minute to minute mechanics for a shooter in place because these are necessary in order to do scavenging the way they talked about. Once Legion is finished I would imagine CCP will begin another major piece of the original idea behind dust as a second feature of legion. Basically they will have the engine for an FPS made and can add the features they hope to keep from Dust into this separate game. Eventually Project Legion can contain all of the things we wanted for Dust and at that time they can look at putting it onto a console capable of handling it or leave it as pc only. This approach will let them make the best use of the experience from Dust and for a game with such high ambitions they really have to develop it on the least restricted hardware available and then, once complete, see if there are other options for systems it can be run on. TL;DR Restart, add stuff, learn from past, make way faster progress by removing old roadblocks and confusing code. Make the features we always wanted, expand it until it includes the entire original concept, dramatically increase likelihood of actually getting what we wanted.

RydogV Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 732	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:09:00 - [131] - Quote CELESTA AUNGM wrote: Wow.... And I don't mean the Keynote/ Blog thing from CCP-Rouge. I mean the grunting and morbidness of US, console players---we act like such defeatists. Are YOU the players I play alongside in this game? All due courtesy to him, but CCP-Rouge's "speech" in this blog was spoken like a true vulnerable politician/CEO. He's fitted the speech with the corporation-presentation-to-public phrases that are customary in his field (and unfortunately sound blander than corporate persons perceive): "It's been our pleasure, and will continue to be", or "Looking forward with new excitement", or "Our mission has always had three cardinal principles", are phrases you may hear in any CEO's presentation, and I THINK you read variations of these phrases in Rouge's statement. But it's a statement that is meant to state nothing, and is usually too timid to even want to intentionally IMPLY anything. The only "inference" I get (and I get it more from CCP's behavior over the past two months, NOT much from this dev-blog entry), is that the company has only made a single internal decision about this Dust/Eve hurdle it's stuck on, doesn't know how far around the hurdle the decision will go (or maybe hasn't yet made all the detailed decisions that follow the single first decision they just made), and honestly don't want to TRY to talk 'suppositions' and 'maybes' to the public because that stuff just triggers "A Run on the Bank". I don't blame any CEO or company for that. When the only real answer is "We're trying something new...we don't know yet if it will work--we have to continue pushing on both the new and old and see where it goes" , OMG you know you can't say that at your company's presentation/conference. But you gotta say something... Public's drooling like fanatics... So you give the public what CCP Rouge gave: "Warm and Mushy, and Hope to See You All As Stage-2 Begins!". ...Face it, that's all the announcement really said. If you find something in there to make you feel sad or stabbed in the back, you're making up that ghost yourself. When I read about opening a player account on Dust 514, I understood it was giving no promises, but it WAS on a CONDITION: The condition is that this hasn't ever been tried before, so players will have to put up with changes and updates, and we'll see. Stay with us please, but remember CELESTA, we don't know JACK about whether this all will work...it's an experiment. I made up my mind and said "okay" to that busride a year ago. It's been MORE than two years for some of you, and some of you STILL have yet to make up your mind to ride along on something unknown, or climb off the bus because it's too unpromising for you. .... Fair enough. And if you want to stick with it...kudos to you. Sincerely, much respect. But understand, my issue is not that they decided to go to PC. Whatever...it was always a possibility. What burns my ass is that they are moving all forward development to PC, and we are left with what? Yeah...think about that. Think about how great it is gonna feel reading about all those great strides they will be making on EVE: Legion while console players get what? Do what? Continue to do what we have always done...wait? No thanks. And it isn't just the news they gave us but HOW it was delivered. They used 20 minutes of a one hour keynote speech and then dropped the mic and walked off the stage. No indication of how this would be implemented or how it will affect those of us who have been playing the game for two years. We get a Dev Blog minutes later saying essentially we have become the 4th Class citizens in New Eden behind EVE Online, EVE: Valkyrie and now EVE: Legion. Defend them all you want. You know in your heart of hearts that you've been screwed over. I Drank The Snake-Oil CCP Sold Me. I Am Not Proud...Here Endith The Lesson.
Appia Vibbia Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 2268	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:10:00 - [132] - Quote I see, Dev Blog on the DUST514 site for a game that isn't DUST514. >.< You guys aren't very good at this game are you? Appia Vibbia for CPM1 AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 222	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:14:00 - [133] - Quote Biggest Disappointment ever. And they wonder why they lost billions of dollars this year. **** you all CCP Open Beta (03/26/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0. Yea that old.
Aurra Field Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 83	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:15:00 - [134] - Quote Mixed feelings for me. I'm a PC gamer at heart (purchased a PS3 solely for the -souls series) so the platform switch is fantastic for me. On the other hand; I invested a lot of time in money into Dust due to the promise of what the game would be in the future with a proper EVE-link, not what it is currently as a generic lobby shooter. By the sound of things, there will be no carry over which bums me out a bit. If there was some sort of transfer over from Dust to Legion, even a one way irreversible character transfer I would be very happy with the announcement as a whole.
Protected Void Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 280	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:18:00 - [135] - Quote I'm sure Legion will be a lot better on the PC than Dust could ever be on the PS3. I might even play it at some point - although recent events haven't exactly made me less anxious of giving my money to CCP to fund the possible realization of a distant future goal. Also, I don't have a gaming capable PC at home, so that's a definite hurdle. However: You really bungled every aspect of the communication about this. Why would I continue playing Dust when you've basically admitted that you don't really have any idea how long it will be kept running, what features or improvements will make it into both Dust and Legion, whether you'll be able to do any kind of Dust character migration to Legion (some dev, don't know his name, just said on the stream that you'd really like to facilitate that but you don't know if you'll be able to) etc. I have about 34 mill or so SP at the moment - a good chunk of that was earned through bhuying boosters, BTW - and am currently spending any extra I earn on luxury upgrades like SMG proficiency for 777000 SP and stuff like that. Some of my Dust sessions I enjoy, some I don't. What has mainly kept me playing has been: My in-game friends - of whom I see less and less The notion that I'll get to use my upgraded skills etc. in new game modes and contexts some time in the future, perhaps even do more PC matches than the 20-or-so I've done at random times during my 15 months of play. The hope for fanfest was that there would be some information about what I could reasonably be using my hard earned SP and experience for in the future. The takeaway is: probably nothing. I sure as hell know I'm not wasting another second playing Dust until there has been some rock solid clarification about what actually will happen to it in the future and whether there will be any kind of transferrability of Dust characters to Legion. Annoyingly enough, the EVE subscription I started 3 and a half months ago (specifically to have an EVE side presence that would allow me to produce gear for my Dust character) was just billed for another 3 months, so I'll probably keep spending 10 minutes a week on training new skills just in case some positive news emerges. Although the outlook is rather bleak there, too - the guy in the Dust 514: Progression session basically said there would be no production link in the foreseeable future.
RUZZ ZAR 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:18:00 - [136] - Quote I am crying with blood. CCP, you ruined my dream for perfect brain-blowing FPS and made a cheap BF-like arcade named legion... This is no more one universe. Legion has nothing in common with EVE, it does not use the same mechanics... It's pretty much a clone of planetside 2 or sci-fi BF, nothing more. It is stupid to expect something from former EA losers. CCP, you had a chance to make a unique mmo-fps in the limitless universe. You failed. What a shame.
Stan Kattel Expert Intervention Caldari State 39	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:23:00 - [137] - Quote Aurra Field wrote: If there was some sort of transfer over from Dust to Legion, even a one way irreversible character transfer I would be very happy with the announcement as a whole. ikr?! If they just took Dust and move it on to PC(and PS4), there would be much less hate here. But "Sony will not let us do this, yada yada yada". Aurra Field wrote: I will say on behalf of my console focused buddies that the bait and switch from "Dust Keynote" to effectively a different game entirely with very little to no Dust information was a bit of a **** move. Damn, I wanna hug you now.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1282	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:24:00 - [138] - Quote Ganked! Great news for those interested in FPS that actually work, FPS from different companies are distinctly more interesting now. The fact that you are keeping CCP/Shanghai because they are battle hardened vets of video game development is somewhat confusing. Yes they are experience but they still aren't any good. Your current FPS doesn't actually FPS - yet. The bugs are not fixed (of course, now we know why - Dust is dead). Input is ignored and you have been waiting to Gank us from the very beginning. Well, at least we understand why we have been treated so badly for a game that was allegedly in Release. It was never going to actually hit Release without a name and system change. New Eden has infected every single one of you at CCP aka Hose The F*ing Users Inc. "I cannot find an emoticon that shows holds up a mirror to reflect the finger you just gave us". And so it goes.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1282	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:26:00 - [139] - Quote CRNWLLC wrote: Looks like it's time to pickup a copy of BF4... Planetside 2 if you have a PC. Works today. Headed to PS4, hopefully it will be announced at E3. And so it goes.
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 325	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:29:00 - [140] - Quote Hey CCP you need to go into damage control mode. Alienating players for any reason is never good. That keynote was a fail. Give us great news about the future and then just drop a bomb about only PC and then nothing to soften the blow? No info on Dust iteration? No offer of SP bonuses in Legion for Dust vets? There's a way to do this. Be smart and show the community some love. Don't make enemies. Remember Incarna!

RydogV Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 743	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:29:00 - [141] - Quote Oh by the way CCP. As a PS4 owner...if you think I will even touch EVE: Valkyrie now.........CUCKOO I Drank The Snake-Oil CCP Sold Me. I Am Not Proud...Here Endith The Lesson.
Michael221987 The Exemplars Top Men. 9	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:31:00 - [142] - Quote Guys you should of know this was coming, when the game came into open beta and the release of the game it started to function poorly, it was fixed to the best they could and they kept running into problems with suits and other things they tried to fix it the best they could, the vehicles are broken we all know that so they took most of them out They repaired what they could, i see glitches everyday and lagging and it's not my internet connection but the PS3 architect is complicated it has been mentioned by a lot of devs from other games DUST514 is limited on things and with legion they get a fresh start, the graphic look better and environments are more realistic and a lot of other things and when this get stable and is successful it won't be hard to port it over to the PS4, I personally was in closed beta and I've stuck through since then but since the end of 1.7 and the release of 1.8 I've stopped playing cause I'm tired of the problems and I've gone to eve and probably gone to eve permanently.
zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 327	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:36:00 - [143] - Quote And why is everyone complaining about a game that's not Dust? It will be three times the game Dust is. It will still be Dust except evolved....and you'll have to start over. So? So will everyone else. I'm no tryhardlord so I relish the chance to start from scratch with everyone else. Plus let's face it: Unreal 2 engine and Playstation network can't begin to handle what Dust can be. His has been a great experience and I'm over the moon that Dust 2 is coming out on PC!!!!!
Stan Kattel Expert Intervention Caldari State 42	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:38:00 - [144] - Quote RydogV wrote: Oh by the way CCP. As a PS4 owner...if you think I will even touch EVE: Valkyrie now.........CUCKOO Same. :D
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 254	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:38:00 - [145] - Quote Stan Kattel wrote: CRNWLLC wrote: Looks like it's time to pickup a copy of BF4... Man, don't do it! Better buy a BF3. Srsly, BF4 is full of annoying little bugs. And on PS3BF3 looks better then BF4. :\ Good looking out! Now that you mention it, I recall hearing this before. BF3 it is (until Destiny). Also, just cancelled my EVE alt. Still have my main, but I PLEX that. Won't be giving CCP money anymore! My other dropsuit is a Python.
RydogV Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 750	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:41:00 - [146] - Quote Michael221987 wrote: Guys you should of know this was coming, when the game came into open beta and the release of the game it started to function poorly, it was fixed to the best they could and they kept running into problems with suits and other things they tried to fix it the best they could, the vehicles are broken we all know that so they took most of them out They repaired what they could, i see glitches everyday and lagging and it's not my internet connection but the PS3 architect is complicated it has been mentioned by a lot of devs from other games DUST514 is limited on things and with legion they get a fresh start, the graphic look better and environments are more realistic and a lot of other things and when this get stable and is successful it won't be hard to port it over to the PS4, I personally was in closed beta and I've stuck through since then but since the end of 1.7 and the release of 1.8 I've stopped playing cause I'm tired of the problems and I've gone to eve and probably gone to eve permanently. Another fair point. Valid...totally valid. Then why did they not spend the next 20 minutes of the Keynote telling us about this 'plan' to improve the game and get it back to a next-gen console? Because there is no plan. Despite the capability of next-gen hardware today we are still static, developing the game on PC means we will always be left behind, without the ability to catch up. We will never play the same game. There will never be parity. It is over on console. Maybe that is what they want now. Sure seems like it. They wanted to bring in new users to New Eden. That was the ENTIRE argument for developing Dust 514 on a console. That and Free-to-Play made it accessible. They could not deliver a product people wanted to play....at least not enough people to make it worth their while. So they threw it all out the window. They cut and run. Fine, great, we got screwed. We can deal. But they don't have the balls to stand up and give it to us straight. A lot of smoke and mirrors for months. It's pathetic. I Drank The Snake-Oil CCP Sold Me. I Am Not Proud...Here Endith The Lesson.
Tomoko Kawase Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 6	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:45:00 - [147] - Quote I cannot wait for Legion. Announcement of the show by far. SUPER EXCITED! As someone that got into the very first Beta for DUST514, I can't wait. I've been there from the beginning and I love what promise Legion holds.
Brian LaFleur Falconpunch Hatesurfers 27	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:46:00 - [148] - Quote I really wish there were a way to speak to developers directly. the fact that the game development studio is in "shanghai" is not coincidental. Petals within petals, tadpole; The truth lies beneath an opulence of illusion.
Sole Fenychs Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 315	Posted - 2014.05.02 16:58:00 - [149] - Quote KalOfTheRathi wrote: CRNWLLC wrote: Looks like it's time to pickup a copy of BF4... Planetside 2 if you have a PC. Works today. Headed to PS4, hopefully it will be announced at E3. PS2 is as incompetent as Dust. The game has memory leaks and a bunch of other **** that kills performance. In terms of functionality, it's a step below Planetside 1. The only thing better about it is the better optional HUD and the better gunplay.
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 47	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:07:00 - [150] - Quote Thanks ccp. I have really enjoyed dust it's social side has been really good, and the game ideas were great, i hope you learned enough from what was obviously just an experiment all along to make your p.c only fps a great game. In case your unaware though, you just killed valkyrie. Most console players prefer consoles. I say this because players won't stpp using their consoles for legion, and now they won't trust you enough to buy valkryie on ps4, i certainly won't. People who are unsure this is what reading between the lines says. Thanks to all our dust bunnies, we learned how to make an fps now we'll take it to the players we actually wanted on pc, We will let you play until this beta for project legion fizzles out until then there's one or two features we're not quite sure about and we hope you will play on the pc game we planned on all along and we now know to make. I think that sums it up. Let me know if i missed anythin. So thank you to all the players i've met for makin this game great, i hope to see you all on destiny in the meantime i'll be there through dust's death throes with you.

The-Errorist 666	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:09:00 - [151] - Quote LittleCuteBunny wrote: PC version looks a lot better. PS3 Development stopped months ago and CCP was just farming Aurum. If they think they can pull this on the PC, after doing his to their player base oh well w/e. There are so many shooter games in the PC on private servers that can do better and they haven't spitted all over their community. Some people will move over, but why would you support a captain that abandons the ship Because the ship is old, rusty, sinking, and theirs a better one out, so there's no point saving it.
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 120	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:10:00 - [152] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! At the Dust 514 I was waiting for the Next Major Evolution, PVE, Racial MCC,LAV,HAV,SAV,Dropship,ect... and you reward us with that ? Isnt it a Dust 514 Keynote ? Not a Legion present ? You could've presented Legion tomorrow in CCP PRESENTS. I'll give you one more chance tomorrow and you better show something good for Dust 514 or else I'll delete my character. If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
IRISH BANANA THESE ARE THE VOYAGES..... 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:10:00 - [153] - Quote Cant help but feel used. Using us dustheads as testers for a pc game the so called "dust keynote" riffing on legion says it all. I too put aurum into my duster because i love the game (warts and all) and for what??? Now we know why there was a 4 month delay between updates. You need to make your position very clear. Or a lot of us will give up on dust. No one on my team gets red lined when i`m around.
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 440	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:11:00 - [154] - Quote RydogV wrote: Oh by the way CCP. As a PS4 owner...if you think I will even touch EVE: Valkyrie now.........CUCKOO Here PS4 community, beta test this for 2 years, and then we will bring it home to the PC... No word if your character SP and assets will be preserved in the PC version. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
RUZZ ZAR 5	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:12:00 - [155] - Quote I think everyone realize now that there is no 5-year plan of DUST development. What a miserable lies.
The-Errorist 668	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:14:00 - [156] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: If you guys stop freaking out more sand in the sandbox is likely aimed at Dust514 :-D There's not much sand in this box, what we have is mainly dust in floating around.
Zene Ren Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 69	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:16:00 - [157] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! i heard there will be new build for Dust 514 on PS3 was it a lie? Balance is the key to achieve knowledge and understanding
Crash Bandit Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:17:00 - [158] - Quote People, stop crying over! You believed in this game, I believed in it. Finally this is what it became, it became a freetoplay enjoyable game. Thats it! Dust will still continue to have fixes & updates! We all know that PS3 has its limitations, eventually they have to focus on another project. This concept is needed to move forward on a more performing platform. Its only logical for CCP to choose to move forward to PC where its main fanbase resides rather than PS3 where community consists mostly of crybabies. The time you wasted on enjoying playing this game is not wasted a wasted time because you enjoyed it. Dust is not "DEAD" yet and still fun to play.
The-Errorist 668	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:20:00 - [159] - Quote Crash Bandit wrote: People, stop crying over! You believed in this game, I believed in it. Finally this is what it became, it became a freetoplay enjoyable game. Thats it! Dust will still continue to have fixes & updates! We all know that PS3 has its limitations, eventually they have to focus on another project. This concept is needed to move forward on a more performing platform. Its only logical for CCP to choose to move forward to PC where its main fanbase resides rather than PS3 where community consists mostly of crybabies. The time you wasted on enjoying playing this game is not wasted a wasted time because you enjoyed it. Dust is not "DEAD" yet and still fun to play. Very much like Battlefield Bad Company 2, its fun as hell and there's 2 games that ahead of it; BFBC2 still has a good number of players playing it.
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 120	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:21:00 - [160] - Quote Crash Bandit wrote: People, stop crying over! You believed in this game, I believed in it. Finally this is what it became, it became a freetoplay enjoyable game. Thats it! Dust will still continue to have fixes & updates! We all know that PS3 has its limitations, eventually they have to focus on another project. This concept is needed to move forward on a more performing platform. Its only logical for CCP to choose to move forward to PC where its main fanbase resides rather than PS3 where community consists mostly of crybabies. The time you wasted on enjoying playing this game is not wasted a wasted time because you enjoyed it. Dust is not "DEAD" yet and still fun to play. I believe in this game but right now Im :( I'll give ccp one more chance. If they can promise us tomorrow then Ill be back and play :) If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.

zzZaXxx The Phoenix Federation 331	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:21:00 - [161] - Quote OMG what are you guys complaining about> This looks amazing!! This is what I always dreamed Dust would be when you add the PVE, exploration/scavenging and high/low/null sec. You gotta check out this video of what they've got so far. Sooo cool! http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/2/5674892/project-legion-PC-CCP
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1991	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:29:00 - [162] - Quote Tomoko Kawase wrote: I cannot wait for Legion. Announcement of the show by far. SUPER EXCITED! As someone that got into the very first Beta for DUST514, I can't wait. I've been there from the beginning and I love what promise Legion holds. I like your enthusiasm, but lets examine this more closely Dust has not lived up to what promises were made about it in the beginning PVE, player trading, a meaningful connection to EVE and many more than I can be bothered to list. Basically this keynote could be summed up thusly - Dust 514 has failed, we are rebuilding it on PC and abandoning the PS3/4 but Legion will be everything we wanted Dust to be. This keynote was simply them admitting that their experiment failed, now based on that and the fact that the last few months CCP have been hinting about the exciting future of Dust 514 but then announcing what is essentially a different game is a giant middle finger to the community. Based upon such blatant disregard to their community and the fact that if you have been playing for so long you should be accustomed to CCP setting goals for the game then failing/abandoning them, that I find it highly odd that anyone would show faith in "promise" or "potential" infact anyone who trusts CCP at this point has questionable sanity after so many SOON's or wait till you see what we have planned etc... that ended in farce pinning your hopes on yet another promise of what is to come is ludicrous. For players who came to Dust from EVE this is a good move if they have the hardware to handle it, for the console crowd this will potentially turn future customers away from CCP, imagine in say 2 years CCP perfect Legion and decide to have another shot at the console market even before the game is released they would get torn apart by reviewers because of the way they treat their console customers in the past and the fact that their last attempt ended in failure. For PC elitists this is like Christmas come early they get to blow their trumpets and declare the PC the master race and so on and so forth. But how many new customers (as in non-EVE/Dust) will try legion do you think? It will be tainted by Dust's failure and potential players could look at how much of a mess Dust is after so long and could be worried Legion will also turn out to be a buggy unbalanced mess (before people go on about how CCP have experience coding on PC yes they do so it might be less buggy but they have shown time and time again they have not the faintest idea how to balance an FPS) In summary I am extremely disappointed in this both the manner of its announcement and the building of false hope for Dust's future. My free trial of EVE ran out today I was going to subscribe but now I am no longer as sure I enjoyed EVE don't get me wrong but I am just so disenchanted with CCP at the moment that I am unsure. Do not read that as a because they cancelled Dust I am not playing EVE this is just me struggling to motivate myself to give money to a company I do not trust. PS. Starting an event the day before fanfest that promotes buying a pack then the next day announcing Dust's replacement and going into 0 details on what will happen with Dust smacks of one last money grab by CCP knowing Dust players will probably not invest after the announcement so kudos for that bit of trolling/bastardry CCP. Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 2855	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:31:00 - [163] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: OMG what are you guys complaining about> This looks amazing!! This is what I always dreamed Dust would be when you add the PVE, exploration/scavenging and high/low/null sec. You gotta check out this video of what they've got so far. Sooo cool! http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/2/5674892/project-legion-PC-CCP Because if I wanted to play a PC game I would be already. Think before you speak. (or type) "The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu Forum Warrior lv.2 Amarr victor!
Nemo Nauticlone Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 119	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:34:00 - [164] - Quote What upsets me most about all of this is that for the last few months we as a community had the feeling fanfest was going to make everything ok. It wasn't going to fix everything but at least it was going to show us the new devs were trying and doing their best in order to give us the content promised years ago. The fact that the DUST KEYNOTE had NOTHING to do with dust is what is frustrating me so much. I believe this can all be summed up with a tweet from The Drunk Heavy "Buying Aurum after today is like buying jewelry for a girl you know is ******* someone else." Nemo the Necromantic Nautilord (YAY FOR LOGIBROS!!!) A.K.A. CEO of NCM
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 521	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:35:00 - [165] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Is DUST going to be a subset of the Legion project? Will the two games connect or does that just make the process too complicated? What features do you still plan on adding to DUST? good news- they have some new pistols in the works u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 1991	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:40:00 - [166] - Quote Zirzo Valcyn wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: Is DUST going to be a subset of the Legion project? Will the two games connect or does that just make the process too complicated? What features do you still plan on adding to DUST? good news- they have some new pistols in the works Really! you mean we get to beta test for their new project! awesome just what I wanted from this lasting MMOFPS! Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3026	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:41:00 - [167] - Quote ziphis erata wrote: I would believe this is too seperate games so why are you guys tearing up on the subject? no offence but i'm assuming half the people on here can run eve so i would assume their pc would be able to run the pc version Honestly please stop crying on the forums you'd do alot better <3 Big Loves Ziphis First I started playing DUST so that I could still be playing the same character in 10 years. It has not been confirmed that I will be able to port my character to Legion, so I am concerned that Fox will die on the PS3. Second, I play EVE on a MAC, and MAC support for Legion has not been confirmed. Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
RydogV Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 758	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:42:00 - [168] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: OMG what are you guys complaining about> This looks amazing!! This is what I always dreamed Dust would be when you add the PVE, exploration/scavenging and high/low/null sec. You gotta check out this video of what they've got so far. Sooo cool! http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/2/5674892/project-legion-PC-CCP GÇ£This was met with a round of cheering and applause from the assembled fans.GÇ¥ Yeah unfortunately most of those GÇÿassembled fansGÇÖ were not Dust 514 players. They were EVE players who have been hoping Dust would come to PC. Meanwhile back on the actual Dust 514 ForumsGÇª.players are burning Executive Producer CCP RougeGÇÖs virtual effigy. This announcement was an immense slap in the face to a dedicated (albeit small) console fanbase who have supported this GÇÿfalseGÇÖ vision for two years. All business asideGÇªit was calculated, cruel, subversive and gutless. I Drank The Snake-Oil CCP Sold Me. I Am Not Proud...Here Endith The Lesson.
Blood Immortal Bank of DUST 514 10	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:46:00 - [169] - Quote Please stop treating us like we are idiots! Transferring us over is easy NOT hard! Let me spend oh 2 seconds thinking about it. 1) Char names easy add them to the new game first 2) isk transfer, convert and put in account and call it whatever isk , disk , l$ whatever, 3)SP same as isk convert and put in account, 4) loot a) convert to dust isk equivalent and then convert to new game isk b) convert to new game items 5) AUR same 6) BPO same if have in new game, if not convert to aur and then convert aur to new game. Now for code, ummm lets see oh I know lets us the scripts we use for respecs they work and poof everything is done! Now lets deal with Sony, if their truly is a policy question about who owns this stuff ccp vs sony (which I doubt their is) then ccp could still do all of the above except for item 1) and still be legal. Now lets see them try and tell us how hard this would be and see them double speak to us!
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 521	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:46:00 - [170] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Zirzo Valcyn wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: Is DUST going to be a subset of the Legion project? Will the two games connect or does that just make the process too complicated? What features do you still plan on adding to DUST? good news- they have some new pistols in the works Really! you mean we get to beta test for their new project! awesome just what I wanted from this lasting MMOFPS! yea but not only that but we will also be receiving the newest wave of nerfs/buffs coming down the pipeline we've all been anxiously waiting for. looks like these good things are still in store for dust. there also a rumor they are finally fixing some of the textures on the radial flori. u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189

521 wer Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:48:00 - [171] - Quote GO SUCK A HOMELESS MANS RUSTY PRICK U FUCKING ICELANDIC FAGGOTS!
Skybladev2 LUX AETERNA INT RUST415 105	Posted - 2014.05.02 17:52:00 - [172] - Quote Will Project Legion be connected to Tranquility or run in a copy of New Eden, like Eve Valkyrie? <[^_^]>
muddysoap14 GunFall Mobilization 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:05:00 - [173] - Quote I didn't spend all of my time and money on this game to see it become something great on a completely different system I don't have access to, Ccp should of closed that key note with something like this "we'd like to take the time to thank every one who has playd dust 514 for your time and MONEY, without your support (money) this other project we have been working towards would not have been possible. Thank you. Sooooooooo in other words we all were just your ***** guinea pigs/cash cow so ccp could fund they other game, If people are playing the game on a console then that suggest's that they like playing the game on, you guessed it ON A *** CONSOLE NOT A PC. ccp what the ** are you doing?????
pink giant Blauhelme Die Fremdenlegion 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:20:00 - [174] - Quote Dust... existing till the 5. of 2014
Rickitikitaffy Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:20:00 - [175] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Woot finally dust is going where it has always belonged, can't wait to finally retire this piece of trash console and get back to gaming on the rig my partner and I have built for real gaming, looking forward to never seeing many of you console scrublords again, won't be able to complain about the keyboard and mouse anymore cause no dust for you! please take this time to consider double tapping yourself in the face. You tried....and died
NIETZCHES OVERMAN Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:20:00 - [176] - Quote Jesus ***** christ, ive spent hundreds of dollars on this game, now its being trashed? I defended you even while people told me I was an idiot to pay for a free ***** game, and they were right...... I will never support another ccp project with anything but hate..... Goddamnit ccp I believed in you, and for months you have been working on this and still taking my money? Its just greedy corporate shame..... 4 months to Destiny people....
Brodun Kest 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:23:00 - [177] - Quote Quote:" The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of." So I think that CCP messed up with console Players and I think they will fail with Project Legion. Why should they be successfull with it when they even did not brought the Features they promised for Dust ? Reminds me of Fable. The Devs Promised thousands of Features and could not realize half of what they promised. Best way to ruin Prestige and make thousands of People angry. Nice Job and thanks for nothing.
The Noob Destroyer Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 117	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:28:00 - [178] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: BUGSBUNNY LOONEY wrote: That was disappointing I am a ps3 player and there was nothing for us No mention of PVP, NOTHING. !!! http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#~oD8kN1q7FgQTfL it is not going to happen. The Real GJR Don't try to be a great man, just be a man and let history make its own judgement.
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 379	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:29:00 - [179] - Quote ** YOU SHOULDN'T THIS BE IN THE LEGION FORUMS. I have a monster gaming PC sitting here that I built for design work that will NOT see Legion in any form unless there is a 100% transfer. Even with the transfer it will be a very long time until you guys get a single penny from me. I spent over $600 for you guys to use me as a beta tester and split? THIS IS CALLED A SCAM. YOU TOOK MY MONEY UNDER FALSE PRETENSES. Well played and ** off.
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 241	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:31:00 - [180] - Quote Hard to express the disappointment. Was hoping DUST had a future. Some meaning behind the battles but nah. Find all the good friends you've made and go play ......something. Anything but this trash. & justice for all

steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2992	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:40:00 - [181] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: OMG what are you guys complaining about> This looks amazing!! This is what I always dreamed Dust would be when you add the PVE, exploration/scavenging and high/low/null sec. You gotta check out this video of what they've got so far. Sooo cool! http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/2/5674892/project-legion-PC-CCP jeusus H, no one wounder the consol only kids are throwing a ** fit, that looks ***** awsome, yeh go CCP thats the right direction games die everyday, star wars matrix, planetside etc etc get used to it, dust died long live the legion "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 752	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:42:00 - [182] - Quote It looks like the monetisation of Dust 514 was less than successful. While I could buy a gaming PC I will certainly not spend -ú2k for one or even a few games. I like consoles. oh well. To those who are looking forward to Eve Legion my question is if the money model failed on the PS3 what model will they use on the PC i.e. what sort of subscription are you willing to pay with the possibility that it might get canned for the PS4 or PS5 which has a very large and active FPS player base. The original reason why Dust appeared on the PS3 and not PC. If I bought a gaming PC I would be looking forward to Star Citizen and Elite who will be legions competitors. You do not have to be crazy to play here but we are willing to train you.
deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 381	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:45:00 - [183] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: OMG what are you guys complaining about> This looks amazing!! This is what I always dreamed Dust would be when you add the PVE, exploration/scavenging and high/low/null sec. You gotta check out this video of what they've got so far. Sooo cool! http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/2/5674892/project-legion-PC-CCP As of right now CCP has shown themselves to have the worst of moral standards around. They had all these events to sell boosters knowing they were done, hell they even called the Legion keynote a Dust keynote just to scam dust players into coming there to be **** on.
xXBlackholeXx Nova Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:50:00 - [184] - Quote Yes CCP there no longer a point keeping dust alive any longer on ps3 if you have nothing stored for it. because now there really no point for the players of dust to keep playing since you guys are no long going to continue on with dust. I really did believe this game was going to go far. Everyone thought really highly of you guys, like I only know of you guys from dust but when I joined player would tell me how great EVE and how everything you guys did was well put together more or less. You guys have a game that people put there days and nights, and their hard earn cash to play. The Dust community was coming there to, even when time were bad the main thing most people playing dust will say is " I have a lot of trust in CCP to make this game great and I believe Dust can be something really good" that statement and many others much alike to that statement are always said to this game including my self. Also I think it's very selfish of you guys to say moving it to pc or what ever Project Legion is to help make it easier for you on that platform. Why I say this because I know a lot of the players you guys have on dust 514 play this because they don't have good enough pc to run it, and moving this is showing them that you guys really don't care. For instance I financially can not just get up and buy a good enough computer to even run Runescape for example, which is nothing compared to what ill need to continue on what ever is to come from you CCP. I've made a lot of friends in Dust from all around the world, Dust was great for that connected with a lot of people and with what I heard it was all a waste of emotions now. Anyways if you guys are going to go through with this and not even try and cross platform it. ill be left to think CCP is a group of quitter that once the going gets tough they abandon it. Doesn't show much leadership in you guys at all. who would want to follow you guys if that's the case. but if you guys are quitting on me Destiny hear I come. Bungie doesn't seem to quit.
mollerz 3366	Posted - 2014.05.02 18:55:00 - [185] - Quote I'm feeling thoroughly ripped off. PS4 please. Along with an equivalent mollerz toon. Otherwise you have to call a scam a scam. You gotta hustle if you wanna make a dolla
Vala Prime Death by Disassociation Top Men. 42	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:25:00 - [186] - Quote BUGSBUNNY LOONEY wrote: That was disappointing I am a ps3 player and there was nothing for us Wow disappointing . I run two corps hate to lose all that we have done in this game. IM a ps3 player not pc player . NOt everyone has a pc to play this on pc yall have eve on pc leave dust on ps3 and do the new updates on ps3 not move it and give up on ps3.All that I worked for is going to be wasted really ccp i hope you dont do this you lose a lot of good players. And what about alliances and corps and districts everything we done we get slaped in the face. The dust players are not happy im one of them. All I can say wow really dont do it
Vaux Karn The Mercenary Collective 77	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:32:00 - [187] - Quote In all fairness to CCP, you guys do realize that Dust on PS3 had a shelf life from day 1 right? There is only so much they can do before they eventually have to transition to PS4. A PC version does not mean PS3 is dead and all you people assuming it does are getting ahead of yourselves. Besides, it's the first day of Fanfest, there is more to come.
DozersMouse XIII Inner.Hell 584	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:43:00 - [188] - Quote CCP isn't gonna transfer to ps4 dust 514 was a way to try and pull console gamers off of consoles they think players will now go out and buy a pc for legion instead of buying a ps4 CCP fails at console gaming and i'm sure if legion was ported "in a thousand years" it would fail Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Dr Stabwounds Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 85	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:44:00 - [189] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: CCP isn't gonna transfer to ps4 dust 514 was a way to try and pull console gamers off of consoles they think players will now go out and buy a pc for legion instead of buying a ps4 CCP fails at console gaming and i'm sure if legion was ported "in a thousand years" it would fail Probably, they did say EVE players would buy a PS3 for Dust so...
Kaleena Elianos Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 12	Posted - 2014.05.02 19:48:00 - [190] - Quote I originally bought a PS3 specifically for DUST 514. I've played DUST on and off for just over a year, but mostly off. The game lost its appeal quite quickly because of the gameplay problems, poor matching, etc. From the very start I kept thinking to myself, "This would be so much better on PC." Sure I can use a keyboard and a mouse with the PlayStation but the integration of these controls has been poor. So, for the most part, I've never really enjoyed DUST. This announcement about Legion on PC makes me very happy. I am definitely looking forward to it and I hope it will bring me back to the game the way I had hoped for in DUST. Character transfer from DUST to Legion is a high priority for me.

sxspk Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:00:00 - [191] - Quote Well everyone it's been a fun ride, but like some others have said if I wanted to play on pc I would play Eve or Starwars. I think this a bad decision on many levels. But who am I.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1287	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:03:00 - [192] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: PS2 is as incompetent as Dust. The game has memory leaks and a bunch of other **** that kills performance. In terms of functionality, it's a step below Planetside 1. The only thing better about it is the better optional HUD and the better gunplay. I have played it. Maybe your PC isn't up to the task? Joking aside it works fine for me. Never crashes, run smooth as silk, hundreds in a battle, huge maps, battles that last for days and continents that you can deploy an aircraft and just fly around in. Data in equipment is in game, you don't have to do your own tests to find out how it functions. No need to drop expensive gear in a tight map with no exit, just so CCP can check off that their ISK sink is sucking just fine. Many other games are in the works (not just PS2) from companies that are not CCP. Because anything from CCP will have to come with cash for me, not from me. CCP will never see another penny from me. Now will I allow any gift from me to support them either. CCP is dead to me, just like we have always been nothing but Dust to them. And so it goes.
DTOracle BlackWater Liquidations INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 279	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:03:00 - [193] - Quote Legion will likely be awesome. But to use the entire Dust514 keynote to announce a new game & not even provide any news about Dust514(you know, that game the keynote was named after) was a colossal mistake. & it might already be too late to rectify this with the community. I can't even fathom how any of you thought that annoucning this(so early), with zero info on the game we're actually playing(& expecting to hear about), was a good idea. #Failfest2014
medomai grey WarRavens Final Resolution. 659	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:14:00 - [194] - Quote Levithunder wrote: Spend months of hard work for the same game on a diffrent device? Going to fanfest and make it sound like we are getting p2p trading and pve ? You've just killed off this community to trade it in for a new one:/ if I don't get a dev blog explaining ALL the details IM DONE! Updated:I'm super confused -_- You just made EVE: Legion even more appealing to me. This community has been toxic and has on multiple occasions steered Dust514 in the wrong direction. Medium frame EHP is not medium
CUTNSHOOT Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:16:00 - [195] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! You CHEESEBALL company CCP..... I will get all recent transactions refunded through SONY on all of my accounts that I was dumb enough to buy boosters on, and NEVER play another CCP game again in my life. I hope you get sued by SONY and lose all of your rights with them in the future, I hope everyone gets involved in a class action lawsuit over this. Complete lies and a total betrayal on your part to a community that has been very loyal. I will personally post links on every facebook, youtube, and every gamer forum you go with on every project you start. They will go right to this forum highlighting EVERY lie you have committed against your playerbase. I wish you poor luck and grand misfortunes in every avenue you pursue, I hope this will become a lesson in gamer history on what NOT to do, They will say "Dont go CCP on the playerbase" ......
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 59	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:20:00 - [196] - Quote Finally CCP is awakening and realizing a game with the goals they dreamed for Dust isnt possible on peasant stations. Best of luck for CCP, and I wish they carry little from Dust 514, this horible game. Match based combat for Dust, stale pre-built maps and shallow planetary conquest sucks and hope they do it more like Planetside 2 with seamless environments and a persistent world. Let each and every playable planet be a PS2-EVE flavoured like experience. And include player built bases / colonies on the process.
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 59	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:31:00 - [197] - Quote Sole Fenychs wrote: drop Dust like a hot potato. Dust like a hot potato. like a hot potato. hot potato. potato. potato. You got that right :)
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1535	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:33:00 - [198] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! worst keynote that we've ever seen. told us our skillpoints were for naught. .o7 assholes. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Ender Storm Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 59	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:33:00 - [199] - Quote Medic 1879 wrote: Tomoko Kawase wrote: I cannot wait for Legion. Announcement of the show by far. SUPER EXCITED! As someone that got into the very first Beta for DUST514, I can't wait. I've been there from the beginning and I love what promise Legion holds. I like your enthusiasm, but lets examine this more closely Dust has not lived up to what promises were made about it in the beginning PVE, player trading, a meaningful connection to EVE and many more than I can be bothered to list. Basically this keynote could be summed up thusly - Dust 514 has failed, we are rebuilding it on PC and abandoning the PS3/4 but Legion will be everything we wanted Dust to be. This keynote was simply them admitting that their experiment failed, now based on that and the fact that the last few months CCP have been hinting about the exciting future of Dust 514 but then announcing what is essentially a different game is a giant middle finger to the community. Based upon such blatant disregard to their community and the fact that if you have been playing for so long you should be accustomed to CCP setting goals for the game then failing/abandoning them, that I find it highly odd that anyone would show faith in "promise" or "potential" infact anyone who trusts CCP at this point has questionable sanity after so many SOON's or wait till you see what we have planned etc... that ended in farce pinning your hopes on yet another promise of what is to come is ludicrous. For players who came to Dust from EVE this is a good move if they have the hardware to handle it, for the console crowd this will potentially turn future customers away from CCP, imagine in say 2 years CCP perfect Legion and decide to have another shot at the console market even before the game is released they would get torn apart by reviewers because of the way they treat their console customers in the past and the fact that their last attempt ended in failure. For PC elitists this is like Christmas come early they get to blow their trumpets and declare the PC the master race and so on and so forth. But how many new customers (as in non-EVE/Dust) will try legion do you think? It will be tainted by Dust's failure and potential players could look at how much of a mess Dust is after so long and could be worried Legion will also turn out to be a buggy unbalanced mess (before people go on about how CCP have experience coding on PC yes they do so it might be less buggy but they have shown time and time again they have not the faintest idea how to balance an FPS) In summary I am extremely disappointed in this both the manner of its announcement and the building of false hope for Dust's future. My free trial of EVE ran out today I was going to subscribe but now I am no longer as sure I enjoyed EVE don't get me wrong but I am just so disenchanted with CCP at the moment that I am unsure. Do not read that as a because they cancelled Dust I am not playing EVE this is just me struggling to motivate myself to give money to a company I do not trust. PS. Starting an event the day before fanfest that promotes buying a pack then the next day announcing Dust's replacement and going into 0 details on what will happen with Dust smacks of one last money grab by CCP knowing Dust players will probably not invest after the announcement so kudos for that bit of trolling/bastardry CCP. Well, not even in my wildest dreams I thought PS3 would be able to support all that was promised. Anyway its a way early announcement, I bet Dust have yet years of life and suport, and it seems Legion will be a different game. Maybe its more like a Valkirie stand alone experience than its a Dust-integrated world.
TITANIC Xangore Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 463	Posted - 2014.05.02 20:58:00 - [200] - Quote DUST:514 was great. It failed. CCP admits it. Sad, really sad. they will keep it around to suck cash out of players pockets with AUR gear. Good luck I'll keep playing, but don't expect another dime from me or my son.

RUZZ ZAR 7	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:38:00 - [201] - Quote Just imagine a thing... That it was a joke and tomorrow everything we've seen as Legion will be revieled as next expansion to DUST514 on PS3... Ah, only hopeless dreams... It better be a stupid joke.
SHELLFACE WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 21:40:00 - [202] - Quote I'm so disappointed, I can't even describe... To continue playing dust is no more fun as it lost the meaning, wy play a game without future? Wy would you want districts?alliance? Corp? Wy would you want isk? Dust keynote was about future of another game/dream that all eve players had including myself,but I bought ps3 just to play dust and because I believed ccp... Console players didn't knew much about eve online ,but in time they learned and some even subscribed to eve online because thay fall in love with : one universe - one war. Now all this love and trust was destroyed in a blink of an eye and ccp even didn't put an effort to explain and apologise. I made lots of friends in dust, hope to see you guys in destiny and elder scrolls online,good luck to you all and f**k you CCP !
Rusty Shallows Caldari State 1779	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:11:00 - [203] - Quote LittleCuteBunny wrote: Legion will melt PS4s Legion will just be more crap on another platform. They can barely hold Eve Online together. BuIlding a reasonable functioning FPS is beyond CCP's abilities. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Joey-Number1 Maniacal Miners INC No Safe Haven 96	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:14:00 - [204] - Quote KatanaPT wrote: So we were oficially the beta testers for a PC game, great... This explains why it took 4 months for 1.8 to come, and to add insult to injury it came broken with ridiculous bugs, unexplainable absence of quality control and still being fixed. You insulted your player base and the PS3 community who still loved this game. They did not, all this is going to be part of a PC dust, but much more clear and refined of what it actually should have always been. All what you ever wanted it to be, it would never even came close to it on PS3 or PS4, there would be more and more limitations and less freedom. All the money spent on dust is not going anywhere, it is all going into development of dust as a whole on PC and the real future of Dust, into much bigger and so much better future of what we always thinked of, it can become anything we want. Yea all of you are enraged so much you don't think clearly anymore.. its so easy to understand... Minmatar Logistics since the beginning. Mass Driver my first and the only fully specialized weapon. Explorer.
Tom Hamp NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 21	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:21:00 - [205] - Quote YOU SONS OF BITCHES YOU FUNKING ROBBED ME? JUST TO DO THIS!!!! Sentinel Tech
Taipaen Loose Cannon Security 2	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:30:00 - [206] - Quote This certainly explains all the recent bonus SP events and pushes for players to buy SP Boosters and the Origin packs. Making a few last, quick bucks to fund the PC game's development before you kicked all of your DUST players in the teeth. CCP, you've shown your true colors today. All the hype about a "DUST keynote" was only to make sure everyone tunes in for your announcement of a completely different game. You baited your playerbase with events geared to get us to spend money after you had already decided DUST would forever be a lobby shooter. You data-mined our game results and solicited us for ideas and feedback on the forums while allowing us to believe we were actually helping the future of the game we were playing. It takes a complete lack of class to handle this direction change the way you have. I would have had at least some respect for your company if you had given us an indication that DUST would never develop into its original concept when the decision had been made. Instead, you used us for every bit you could get before you dropped the bomb.
Tom Hamp NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 23	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:40:00 - [207] - Quote AND YOU KNOW WHAT DON'T BOTHER WITH LEGION IT WILL FAIL TOO Sentinel Tech
Theresa Rohk The Cuddlefish Templis CALSF 46	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:42:00 - [208] - Quote The Noob Destroyer wrote: http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a568488/dust-514-sees-no-planned-updates-scraps-survival-mode-and-vita-app.html#~oD8kN1q7FgQTfL it is not going to happen. Quote: Executive producer Jean-Charles Gaudechon told Digital Spy that any new modes, such as planned player versus environment survival-style missions, as well as a Vita app, have been canceled and any updates for the time being would simply "keep improving the experience" rather than adding to it. Senior vice president of product development Sean Decker also reiterated that the first-person focus for CCP will shift from Dust 514 to Project Legion. Not at all surprised. Hey CCP how can you kill off your game and community in one easy step? Hire an ***** from EA to run it for you. I can't think of a bigger way to potentially this up, but you sure managed to. Quote: "You could not, I feel, iterate without putting that plane down, fixing it, and putting it back up. I'm not about to do that with Dust, because Dust is a really good experience out there, and that's something we should all remember." Except this is exactly what CCP did, and has done with EVE, on multiple occasions. If any company is capable of doing it, it is CCP. You apparently just don't have the ability/skill to oversee it. Quote:** "It's something I enjoy a lot. But if I want to make the change that I want to make to it, it will go towards Project Legion, and hopefully become its own experience." How noble of you. Did you ever even bother to play this game?
lee corwood Knights Of Ender Galactic Skyfleet Empire 822	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:42:00 - [209] - Quote Bringing to light a non-existent game without a clear roadmap of how it affects your current playerbase. Worse PR you could have done for yourself CCP. You clearly weren't ready for this to hit fanfest and this feedback is very well deserved. Minmatar Logisis \| Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
NIETZCHES OVERMAN Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2014.05.02 22:56:00 - [210] - Quote Joey-Number1 wrote: KatanaPT wrote: So we were oficially the beta testers for a PC game, great... This explains why it took 4 months for 1.8 to come, and to add insult to injury it came broken with ridiculous bugs, unexplainable absence of quality control and still being fixed. You insulted your player base and the PS3 community who still loved this game. They did not, all this is going to be part of a PC dust, but much more clear and refined of what it actually should have always been. All what you ever wanted it to be, it would never even came close to it on PS3 or PS4, there would be more and more limitations and less freedom. All the money spent on dust is not going anywhere, it is all going into development of dust as a whole on PC and the real future of Dust, into much bigger and so much better future of what we always thinked of, it can become anything we want. Yea all of you are enraged so much you don't think clearly anymore.. its so easy to understand... Shut the f.u.c.k. up you d I c k eating fanboy b.i.t.c.h..

Goric Rumis Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 413	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:11:00 - [211] - Quote Necessary step. Terribly managed. Seriously, this is a textbook case of mismanaging both expectations and reaction. As soon as you knew this was going to be the future the DUST development team was going to work on, you should have hired a consultant to help you manage the transition with players. And if you did hire a consultant, you should fire him/her immediately. At least 50% of the reaction you're getting didn't need to happen if you'd just managed expectations, had an up-front and honest "what does this mean for DUST" section in the keynote, and prepared responses to the really obvious questions people were going to have. By ignoring the inevitable response and hyping the keynote like you were going to be rolling out huge changes to the PS3 tomorrow, you brought on just about the worst possible reaction. And please stop using the phrase "laser focused." It's irritating business jargon that means nothing. No one should use that term ever, and I mean "no one" and "ever." Well, I guess outside of talking about an actual laser. What Is Tiericide and Why?
Mima Sebiestor NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs 0	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:19:00 - [212] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Once Legion ships the PS3 is going to be unplugged. I'll keep playing on my PS3 until it dies or requires PS Plus; it's a great platform. However, comma, pause for effect, the real problem might just be... More Money for the Corp (CEO). Everything in moderation. May CCP side with a PC, forever. Boycott Windows today!!!
BDiD HEAVY LOGISTIC OPERATIONS 1	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:22:00 - [213] - Quote Good, kb/m is meant for pc. Only reason they put on dust is to appease EVE players who might come over. Kb/m User? GOODBYEEE!
Gaius Calinus Incarnation Soldiers Die Fremdenlegion 3	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:28:00 - [214] - Quote Honestly CCP, bitches are not for free You f**d the Dust community almost 2 years long... Now where's the $ we earned as tester? Or at least the bucks we spent on this s?? Not even somethin' like "we're sorry to... blah-bla-whatever"? GFYSABIH!!! Hail Caldari !!* Hail to the Caldari State !!!
Omareth Nasadra The New Age Outlaws Proficiency V. 339	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:39:00 - [215] - Quote how could you lure dut player to attend to fan fest, scam our RL money with your BS events and boosters sale? HOW ABOUT YOU GO FACK YOURSELVE IN THE ARSE CCP!!!!!! FU Minmatar, In rust we trust!!! Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
DJINN Punisher Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 187	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:54:00 - [216] - Quote Long time no see guys and gals, wonGÇÖt start this off by saying told you so cause that would be wrong. ItGÇÖs a shame that dust died, (RIP Dust) the concept was amazing, the plan terrific, the possibilities vast, but the execution was horrid. The community liaisons have always been a joke, and with ccp relying on their out of touch player lackeys it was just a matter of time. Most of you on console wonGÇÖt follow into the PC realm understandably so, and unless CCP makes major changes it will end up the same way on PC. Hopefully you will be keeping in contact with the friends you made and cherishing the good times, I mean we all had a few. Just be grateful you didn't back stab any friends or lose friendships over this nonsense. (No love lost for my rabid dog) I look forward to meeting up with you all again who knows when our DESTINIES will become intertwined. Just to feed the trollsGÇª X box one hands down smashes the PS4 =) Yours truly the first DJINNGÇª P.S. I opened the site to everyone so you donGÇÖt need to be Hellstorm to chill with us.
Deamonwrath21 DeathReign Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 2	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:55:00 - [217] - Quote you guys let me down very bad today and im a console player, i bought a ps4 wishing project legion on ps4 and i put my heart and soul into dust 514, i love it, i had high hopes for ps4 version and most of the apocalypse 3 had quit which i was a director in today due to your poor execution of appeal, console is far more popular. if you ccp dont announce for ps4 soon or at e3, or put within a year of the release date, you will loose all of your precious fans to the epicness of planetside 2 on PC AND KEY WORD AND SYSTEM A FIN PLAYSTATION 4
Zhenya Serafina Science For Death Final Resolution. 10	Posted - 2014.05.02 23:56:00 - [218] - Quote okay. Well I would say it is ragingly obvious that you do not care about your community based on the direct comment by your executive producer stating that no PVE or Player Trading will eventuate in DUST and that your half-arse development team is focusing on a PC game that is now somewhat a better fit for your EVE link (no **** - its a PC game also). However - The way this has been handled and addressed, is well. Amazing. - I literally cannot stop laughing. Your DUST (or Legion whatever - same pooled budget I'm sure) subsidiary are a bunch of complete incompetent non-professionals - Did it occur to you that you are running a real life business and not in the game itself? You just f...... over your entire community with out answering any questions - and with the ever moving landscape without instant mitigation - your silence will lead to an even sooner end which maybe what you wish for... As a EVE player of countless years, and a DUST player from the outset, this game was cool to me, and it was a good fit for what I wanted out of a ps3 game, with the hope of being linked to the only game I play (EVE). You'll create your new fantastic legion game, but don't spend too much of your budget on the match making system, because mud sticks and any game needs a loyal player base... and up until a few hours ago. You had a loyal player base (small) - but loyal. I'm not shocked you are making a PC game it has been on the cards ever since DUST was released (as a apparent full game), and what makes your now defunct player base loyal was all the crap they put up with. What I am shocked about is how you have gone about it. I feel so sorry for those at FANFEST, if I was a DUST EXEC I would not be out on the town on the pub crawl - it will get nasty. Lastly, for all the cool people that I have played with and met - thanks for giving me a good time and f... you CCP SHANGHAI.
SAU xD MEN IN BLACK OPS Red Whines. 19	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:16:00 - [219] - Quote Awful, just awful Canal de MIB en Youtube y google+
Adan Montano Pietsch Ahrendee Frontlinez 1	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:35:00 - [220] - Quote Wow that's all i can simply say, i mean im no pc gamer but i did my research on eve, got into the backstories, complexity etc etc. i get dust and i loved the fact that this was a corp vs corp struggle for land and commodities with an even more complex economy (still not implemented into dust) and i was looking forward to the full integration with eve and its economy.. i mean think about it the idea that your a fricking immortal merc being hired by cartels, governments, businesses and npc/player corps to fight for planets and being able to become one of those rich corp guys yourself is just AWESOME to me, but now... NOWWWW I JUST FEEL COMPLETELY BUT F*ED BY AN EBBC( E= extremely) TO THE POINT WERE I HAVE BROCKEN EVERYTHING FROM THE WAIST DOWN.... THIS IS JUST COMPLETE BULL FING SH$T, HOW CAN YOU RUN A DAMM GAMING COMPANY WITH THESE TYPE OF IDEALS OF KILLING YOUR PLAYER BASE, MANN DO I FEEL LIKE A PIECE OF *** MATERIAL HMG FTW!!!!!!!

KatanaPT Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 744	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:45:00 - [221] - Quote Joey-Number1 wrote: KatanaPT wrote: So we were oficially the beta testers for a PC game, great... This explains why it took 4 months for 1.8 to come, and to add insult to injury it came broken with ridiculous bugs, unexplainable absence of quality control and still being fixed. You insulted your player base and the PS3 community who still loved this game. They did not, all this is going to be part of a PC dust, but much more clear and refined of what it actually should have always been. All what you ever wanted it to be, it would never even came close to it on PS3 or PS4, there would be more and more limitations and less freedom. All the money spent on dust is not going anywhere, it is all going into development of dust as a whole on PC and the real future of Dust, into much bigger and so much better future of what we always thinked of, it can become anything we want. Yea all of you are enraged so much you don't think clearly anymore.. its so easy to understand... dude, just stfu. Ever heard of false advirtising? False promises? I spent real money on this game, for ages i was a avid supporter of CCP, even after some bad moves on their part, i believed in their vision, in their trailers (remember the ones with drones? And hints of a epic space opera at your fingers?) but enough is enough. Send some of your money overhere or buy me a PC. Actually buy me 2 PCs because i have 2 PS3 i bought for this game alone. Have you even spent aurum? I did. And i feel ashamed i did and helped support this game. Tech Guard Recruiting Video
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 268	Posted - 2014.05.03 00:54:00 - [222] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Fck You, and the horse you rode in on. Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.*
Heathen Bastard The Bastard Brigade 1372	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:23:00 - [223] - Quote So basically: Project legion is everything we've been shown, told is coming, and assured is eventually going to happen with dust. Dust is a giant, flaming middle finger to anyone who believed in you. Nice bait and switch. If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
Stephiano Daphiti Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 18	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:34:00 - [224] - Quote As someone on Reddit put it, "I didn't pay money so I could improve a character that I won't use. I want to play Legion, but did I just spend 16 months and over -ú100 on something that I wont be playing after Legion comes out? " Also a huge **** you for giving Legion and only Legion everything you promised Dust.
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1292	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:41:00 - [225] - Quote Try reading this. It will make many things clear to Mercs. http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/05/02/project-legion-announced-a-first-person-shooter-set-in-the-eve-universe/ A couple of bits in the article talk about the graphics and the pretty EVE style art assets. The descriptions which are some of the busy work that has been slowly infecting Dust while offering absolutely nothing to making it a better game. Quote: The demo was pretty sparse. Although there were a group of developers on the stage, they never really interacted with each other. You can tell Legion is very early in development, and this was a brief taster more than anything else. I didnGÇÖt get a feel for the combat, or how the team mechanics will work, but it looks pretty enough. It has that stylish, understated EVE art design, and some nice lighting. So, we have developers on stage, not fighting, not interacting, in the lava backdrop we get today (like it or not) and they have OMG Added glowing lava fields. No meaningful in-game footage so the author has no idea where CCP/Shanghai is going with this. Well we know where they are going! Around in circles, futzing with art, forgetting what a FPS is because they are just now writing their Second one while leaving the first one laying face down in the Dust. Bug riddled, ignored and left to rot in New Eden. Which had me upset I must admit. Until I realized that even with them focusing on Legion their ability to make a better game will not improve. Their competence has never been questioned. Personally, I have Never Even Considered the possibility. I hope the Pod Peeps get what they deserve. Another series of lies, missed chances and a shiv in their back. And so it goes.
JONAHBENHUR home of the forgotten 30	Posted - 2014.05.03 01:47:00 - [226] - Quote does it say that dust 514 is shutting down ??
IgniteableAura Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 990	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:01:00 - [227] - Quote I suggest no one sign in for this "origin" event.... After all its the only way we can fight back. Begin the summer of rage Youtube
JONAHBENHUR home of the forgotten 30	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:14:00 - [228] - Quote [quote=KalOfTheRathi]Try reading this. It will make many things clear to Mercs. http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/05/02/project-legion-announced-a-first-person-shooter-set-in-the-eve-universe/ thanks to KAl it looks like this new game is everything they promised dust514 would be but without the dvertisments to purchase in game items it seems kinda wrong to have had players shell out hundreds of dollars on thefaiththat someday then just making a different game though
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1405	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:20:00 - [229] - Quote DJINN Punisher wrote: Long time no see guys and gals, wonGÇÖt start this off by saying told you so cause that would be wrong. ItGÇÖs a shame that dust died, (RIP Dust) the concept was amazing, the plan terrific, the possibilities vast, but the execution was horrid. The community liaisons have always been a joke, and with ccp relying on their out of touch player lackeys it was just a matter of time. Most of you on console wonGÇÖt follow into the PC realm understandably so, and unless CCP makes major changes it will end up the same way on PC. Hopefully you will be keeping in contact with the friends you made and cherishing the good times, I mean we all had a few. Just be grateful you didn't back stab any friends or lose friendships over this nonsense. (No love lost for my rabid dog) I look forward to meeting up with you all again who knows when our DESTINIES will become intertwined. Just to feed the trollsGÇª X box one hands down smashes the PS4 =) Yours truly the first DJINNGÇª P.S. I opened the site to everyone so you donGÇÖt need to be Hellstorm to chill with us. It was good playing with/against you guys. Hope to play with you in PS2 on ps4 some day. o7 MAG ~ Raven I GÖú puppies.
Croned Gallente Federation 647	Posted - 2014.05.03 02:31:00 - [230] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: If you guys stop freaking out more sand in the sandbox is likely aimed at Dust514 :-D Yeah, they're bringing more sand in so they can fill Dust's grave. Son of a plasma cannon!

Zylahra StormRazor Yada Industries 20	Posted - 2014.05.03 03:39:00 - [231] - Quote And now they know WHY hiring a dude from EA... is EPIC STUPID!!!
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 123	Posted - 2014.05.03 03:43:00 - [232] - Quote Rusty Shallows wrote: LittleCuteBunny wrote: Legion will melt PS4s Legion will just be more crap on another platform. They can barely hold Eve Online together. BuIlding a reasonable functioning FPS is beyond CCP's abilities. Legion will melt your pathetic face. COME AT ME BRO!!! If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
Colonel Born HDYLTA Defiant Legacy 4	Posted - 2014.05.03 04:24:00 - [233] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! Hey guys, Long time player of EvE here who has experienced this whole journey from Mordu's Private Trials. Let me just say that I went into this Fanfest with some really big hopes for future features for Dust 514. I am going to describe myself as a bit of a faithful who has defended Dust's less than stellar first year to a number of people who saw the writing on the wall before I did. I thought I would be happy to see Dust coming to the PC (and let me just state, I do think that this is the best chance for the game to have a future), however, this was one of the worst handled announcements from a company I have ever seen, and a slap in the face to their entire player base. I think all the reasons why have been adequately covered by the other posts here, but the fact that I just forked out $20 for a live stream (I can't imagine what those who traveled to Iceland must be feeling) to be told that the game I've spent more money on in a year than an EvE account "and we thank you for that" is a thing of the past with Legion being the future. Nothing on what to expect for the current PS3 players, which I want to reinforce again, IS YOUR ONLY PLAYER BASE ATM!!! You invite them to Fanfest (or charge them 20 to watch the live stream) to tell them that they were basically a cash farm to fund the development of a game it looks like they were always intending on making on another platform, and that if you don't have the hardware to upgrade, you're SOL in terms of experiencing the vision CCP initially promised you. What they SOLD you. I'm not here to call anyone specific out. I am here to express my dissatisfaction as your customer and a consumer of your products. For a company that relies so much on a loyal consumer base for its existence; who clearly does care about its player base in so many aspects, this is appalling. I have no idea how this fanfest schedule was allowed to proceed as it did. No one expected the PS3 version of this game to last forever, but how you've treated your current player base is nothing short of dishonorable. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Omareth Nasadra The New Age Outlaws Proficiency V. 346	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:16:00 - [234] - Quote Colonel Born wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! Hey guys, Long time player of EvE here who has experienced this whole journey from Mordu's Private Trials. Let me just say that I went into this Fanfest with some really big hopes for future features for Dust 514. I am going to describe myself as a bit of a faithful who has defended Dust's less than stellar first year to a number of people who saw the writing on the wall before I did. I thought I would be happy to see Dust coming to the PC (and let me just state, I do think that this is the best chance for the game to have a future), however, this was one of the worst handled announcements from a company I have ever seen, and a slap in the face to their entire player base. I think all the reasons why have been adequately covered by the other posts here, but the fact that I just forked out $20 for a live stream (I can't imagine what those who traveled to Iceland must be feeling) to be told that the game I've spent more money on in a year than an EvE account "and we thank you for that" is a thing of the past with Legion being the future is what primarily motivated me to make this post. Nothing on what to expect for the current PS3 players, which I want to reinforce again, IS YOUR ONLY PLAYER BASE ATM!!! You invite players to Fanfest (or charge them 20 to watch the live stream) to tell them that they were basically a cash farm to fund the development of a game it looks like you were always intending on making on another platform, and that if we don't have the hardware to upgrade, we're SOL in terms of experiencing the vision CCP initially promised us. What you SOLD us. I'm not here to call anyone specific out. I am here to express my dissatisfaction as your customer and a consumer of your products. For a company that relies so much on a loyal consumer base for its existence; who clearly does care about its player base in so many aspects, this is appalling. I have no idea how this fanfest schedule was allowed to proceed as it did. No one expected the PS3 version of this game to last forever, but how you've treated your current player base is nothing short of dishonorable. You should be ashamed of yourselves. i've reported your post sayin i'm 100% with you on this post, of course i've added a personnal FU ccp on my behalf, hope this doesn't cause you any trouble Minmatar, In rust we trust!!! Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 1659	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:33:00 - [235] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: ...We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Oh bro... "Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay it's price."
killian178 S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 16	Posted - 2014.05.03 05:42:00 - [236] - Quote LittleCuteBunny wrote: Legion will melt PS4s Then there will be no one with enough cash to afford the kind of gaming rig you'd need to run it? Let's be honest, dust could have been something great, if say CCP Shanghai wasn't even involved, or there was more content and a more realized vision for it before closed beta began, the game would be ALOT farther along than it is now.
Proto'G Solar Valley Fleet 0	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:02:00 - [237] - Quote Man, I was really pulling for you you ccp. I've been with Eve since 2007, and dust from the beginning...but this, this just hurts! It may all be worth it only if the time and money I've invested into Dust transfers into Project Legion, but I don't have much faith. Seems to me an official letter to your player base is due, CCP, with an apology and and some affirmations that what we've invested wasn't a total waste...if you still have that in you.
killian178 S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 16	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:04:00 - [238] - Quote Joey-Number1 wrote: Some console players are so enraged that they don't think clearly anymore, when did they ever do tho. Players from consoles do not realize what EVE Universe is about, they have no idea of it's complexity, deep backstory and scale. It would never reach these states on PS3 or PS4. SOME maybe, but still, does this not leave a bad taste in your mouth? CCP could have done a much better job. I wanted eve complexity etc for dust, it just feels like I've wasted ALOT of time effort and money on a test for legion. Wether or not that's the case, kinda just feels like an a-hole move, and I've been playing eve for years. Thinking of deleting my accounts and taking a shower.
Chimichanga66605 Myrmidon Syndicate 97	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:20:00 - [239] - Quote Spartan MK420 wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. F*ck You, and the LAV you rode in on. fixed. Your welcome, o7 I was a Medic, Assault, Commando specialist. I ran a Scout & Sentinel for fun. I was a Minmatar Loyalist.
DJINN Jecture BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 149	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:31:00 - [240] - Quote DJINN Stephani wrote: NextDark Knight wrote: Levithunder wrote: Ohh yeah and one last thing, showing me a tree and clocking past a tank with good graphics dosent impress me. Well the tree kinda does BUT ONLY IF IT'S A PS3 TREE! The tree comment was to Bamm Havoc.. This just shows that he pays more attention to youtubers then the actual community. The tree thing has been around for a while. I don't think it started with Bamm Yes it did... he pioneered that request back when skirmish was close to 1.0. I am disgusted that there are no answers to a community that has been involved from day one. You like us, we are the best community? That sounded more like you are praising our patience than wanting to keep the majority of the players. The move to PC would have been fine with cross platform interaction but the reality of the matter is that you stopped caring several months back, you should have told us something more now that you have had months to prepare for fanfest. No wonder CCP Rogue never says anything about anything. He doesn't have anything to say to the players he knows he will alienate with whatever he has to say. I have several years of time, as do many others, invested in this game as well as a good deal of money. I sure hope you deliver something to the players that stops the flow of blood from the wounds you have caused today. I like Dust and have always wanted it to succeed but this seems like a pretty bad way to announce to the public that their game is not going to be supported on a platform chosen for its longevity. Character transfers (ISK, SP, Assets) need to be transferred to the PC version to give any of the people I have talked with a desire to continue playing. As for porting it, the characters are all stored on TQ, it is your code, transfer it. Don't talk your way around in circles saying we don't know if its possible we don't want to leave anyone behind. It is a plain fact some if not most will be left behind. Do yourselves a favor and actually respond to your community, you know the ones that put money into your accounts so the lights keep working, please. Agent For Hire Come at me Bro!

emtbraincase Falconpunch Hatesurfers 128	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:36:00 - [241] - Quote What I got out of this thread.... I play using kb/m, Legion will be the greatest thing in gaming. I cannot suck CCP c@ck any harder. I play using a ds3, I have no idea what the F@CK is going on anymore. F@ck this game. I'm out. Not specific, but generalization. Have fun on PC without a good chunk of us.
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 274	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:43:00 - [242] - Quote Chimichanga66605 wrote: Spartan MK420 wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Fck You, and the LAV you rode in on. fixed. You're welcome, o7 likewise Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.*
SEALSkiller8 Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 0	Posted - 2014.05.03 06:53:00 - [243] - Quote ISN'T POSSIBLE! WOULD YOU TO LEFT DUST 514??
TIGER SHARK1501 The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 0	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:06:00 - [244] - Quote So we as a community have poured time, effort and money into a game for only a year to get dropped for some other project with no new content down the road. Thanks for killing this game. Had I known that we'd all get screwed like this I never would have played this game from day one.
Paulus Phen502 3	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:43:00 - [245] - Quote I logged in today for the 200th day in a row, I stayed up all night till 10am watching the keynote speech, I was concerned over my corps drop of around 100 places in the weekly Kill board since 1.8 came out, I played DUST rather than the 75 other playstation 3 games I owned,I thought about what DUST would have been like on my PS4, in other words I cared and was committed to your game and had made it a regular part of my life. BUT, when given the chance to make a statement about the future of DUST, CCP chose to say little other than Legion was the game you really wanted to make and we got no new news about DUST. Without giving us direction for the future of the game why should we continue to play it and worse why should we trust you won't do the same if we invest in Legion. You could have spend 15 minutes telling us you had plans to keep DUST relevant or even said we were invited to be in the Beta and would keep our SP and our corps in Legion. But you said nothing, promised nothing and left us with little hope in the present or for the future. There was so much you could have tried to say but didn't instead you didn't even try to give us a vision for the future of DUST other than come play Legion which is really early and a long time away. I suggest someone should try and give us reasons to remain invested in CCP products and do it quickly because people do not tend to invest in people and products once trust is severed and they feel used. Thank you for the enjoyment you've given me over the past 15 months or so I hope you intend to can convince me(and all the Dusters) it was worth my time and will continue to be. "There's no stoppin' what can't be stopped, no killin' what can't be killed," King Willie Predator II.
SEALSkiller8 Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 0	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:50:00 - [246] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: So we as a community have poured time, effort and money into a game for only a year to get dropped for some other project with no new content down the road. Thanks for killing this game. I wouldn't have played this game from day one had I known the game would have done in this direction. :'(
NURSE EDNA Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 9	Posted - 2014.05.03 07:59:00 - [247] - Quote They asked for our opinion? Want to share it? Speak with your wallet. Stop buying. Don't give them a single cent.
TYR STORM The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 0	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:24:00 - [248] - Quote Personally, for me, Dust514 is my favorite game. It is the best FPS as far as playability. CCP, you have an opportunity to turn this game into the biggest FPS in the world if expand your horizons and also to move Dust514 into the PS4 and future PS platforms. All of your loyal players that have put alot of time and money into this game, want this. Also we have been promised that you would continue to develop this game into the future. We don't want a PC based game. When you are used to using a console, clicking buttons on a keyboard in a fierce battle, is not going to cut it for any of us. Most of us could care less about EVE, as it is a different game that is barely connected to Dust. Change the conditions in which you can call an orbital strike, and you no longer need EVE for dust. I have played all of the FPS games on many different platforms, and dust has something that the others do not. It would be foolish to stop development of dust, instead of expanding it into the world. It has a greater potential then you realize. Also, I think you should really make an anouncement and clarify things to the players ASAP, to give us some hope about the future of the game, or you will most likely lose all of your loyal, paying players. Obviously this firestorm of player reactions should tell you something.
Liam Bane What The French Red Whines. 69	Posted - 2014.05.03 08:27:00 - [249] - Quote So all your speechs about gathering 2 community of players in one universe (you know "one universe // one war" all over the place) was it all bullshit ??? Do you really think that us, DUST player will go on pc to play our game after what you just did ? Do you really think that PC's FPS gamer will play this game while theire is so many other so much better than this one ? Do you really think that EVE players will play DUST or legion or whatever is name even with all the time they spend on EVE? EVE players can't make this game live, they are too busy due to their first game. Such a game need is own dedicated community, just like the one you had until now. Now i see all the time and money invested in DUST. Because yes, it was an investement for the future of this game. I loved this game, I believed in CCP to make it growth just like EVE before. Now you just erase everything and take a new start letting us dying slowly. Most part of your game was not fun to play but I played it for what it could be next month or next year. And now you just smash up everyone in the face with this... Now i'm done. No more DUST, no more EVE, no more CCP. I'll not giving you 1 more cents or time. I wish you the worst for your "new game".
Arioch d'Elassar Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.05.03 09:01:00 - [250] - Quote +1 Pas mieux qu'au dessus. Ha si ! C'+¬tait quand m+¬me tr+¿s sympa. Bye !

itsmebj turtle BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 5	Posted - 2014.05.03 09:05:00 - [251] - Quote so i'm surprised but not.. dust is my 1st ever fsp.. when i saw that it wasn't moving to ps4 i knew it was going do die slowly painfully and be forgotten. legion looks like they took everything we wanted in dust and moved it to pc. when you look at what is involved in a console game and how much easier changes can be made on pc games i'm actually surprised it took them this long to move the game. when all else fails get a bigger gun.
T'ut Marin Butt Hurt Try Hards Primus Federation 1	Posted - 2014.05.03 09:18:00 - [252] - Quote I'm confused by the comments on here. Every Dust player I've had in my squad, myself included, have talked about having this game on the PC. It just makes sense, the PS3 is a dead end, and the PS4 is too limiting. However, to CCP: I have to agree that it's pretty insane that you'd mention amputating the PS3 community and dividing Legion and Dust into separate games. The map from the keynote looked basically the same, except with PC level graphics. Is cross platform not possible (with lower graphics for the PS3 version)? And if that's out of the question, I think everyone on this board has made it clear character transfer is a must. I shelled out some cash for this game to support its development and future. It would be a shame to finally see the dream realized, but have no community left to share it. Thanks for a great year of fun with Dust CCP, I'll be staying tuned for more updates.
DAMIOS82 WarRavens Final Resolution. 93	Posted - 2014.05.03 09:30:00 - [253] - Quote Well personally i don't think project Legion is a bad thing. I allways wanted to see dust 514 come to pc, due to the restrictions on ps3, not to mention getting anoyed with the lag. Atleast in legion we might be able to get those city, dence forest, complex maps. Like it was in the early stages of dust 514 (somewhat) and being able to use the full extensity of my 50mbps modem connection. But i do think that they should not dumb down the game. Instead make sure that there is a more complex character development, a larger skill tree like EVE and a vast array of unique vehicles and weapons as it was meant to be in dust 514. Legion should build on what is in dust 514 and extend upon it's base, just making sure that when the alpha/beta stages begin, that atleast we have all of our race basic vehicles like mtacs, speedbikes, etc. That when we need to call an installation down on the surface, we can do so by a large choice of diversity. Not to mention hopefully having atleast some form of interaction with the environment around us. Afterall the sky is the limit, once it is on pc. However i do think that once out of beta stage, some way or form ccp should include the ps4 into it. So in my oppinion Legion is the inevitable future of dust 514, just like EVE has went thru it's fases. Now that beeing all said there is the character i have now. I don't mind starting all over, however i do wan't compensation for what i invested into the game. If the isk and skills work different, that's fine, but i should be compensated accordingly, like for instance. 30 mil isk per 1 mil sp and then a full asset refund in isk, also a refund of all aur into isk. Those few rare items that i have, need to be refunded aswell just for a higher price then there counterparts, you know like the Colossus suits, etc. And then the total amount of it all (dust isk) converted to legions economy(legions isk), whatever the percentage is. Not to mention some bonus item in Legion for the inconvenience and to get as started. If those can be met and those are proberly the best way to do it, then sign me up for alpha and beta stage (the sooner, the better). It might sound hard to some, but Dust on ps3 is a sinking ship, it is better to just evolve with the game and try and get the most out of it. Because it will evolve whether you want it to or not or should i say Quote: welcome to EVE .
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2014.05.03 09:35:00 - [254] - Quote Hmmm... Mixed feelings about this. I'm an EVE player who came over with the CE release. Enjoyed Dust a lot. And felt it had a lot of potential. So I am disappointed to see that potential not realised. In saying that, if some form of recognition is given to Dust players in Legion, it will really help a lot. Asking for a full transfer is a joke, it will never happen, because it would alienate too many new players. 'Why start this game when people have years of free advantage'. Not to mention all the PC isk that has been farmed that would get dumped into certain peoples wallets and the piles of aurum bought BPO's that would skew any kind of market badly. However giving all Dust players Collectors edition Templar style gear, a small static boost to starting skills & isk, and other items would be a great way to recognise those players contributions to Legion. Even if Dust continues Legion will be heavily influenced by it's progress so far and those players are the ones that have helped to shape that progress.
Baldy bonce Mentally Unstable Enterprises 6	Posted - 2014.05.03 09:37:00 - [255] - Quote After paying for three eve accounts for a total of around twenty years of subscription , buying a ps3 specifically to play and then sticking with dust for 2 years. I am disgusted with you CCP. And the CPM, well not much to be said apart from a monkey could have done a better job. No more penny's for your company , in fact as the saying goes,at this moment in time ( I would not **** on CCP staff if they were rolling around on the floor on fire ) . Well done
Snake Sellors Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 52	Posted - 2014.05.03 10:17:00 - [256] - Quote In case your unclear ccp... 1. This is negative feedback, alot of it. 2. Console players won't be excited about p.c news.(what were you people thinking ) 3. Most folks aren't even watching your video of legion because it has no meaning for them. 4. The community has already started getting charge back actions against you- as in actual action not just complaints. 5. You should.be doing damage control around now-you haven't even posted a reply 6. The community is angry because: .no feedback about our game .no mention of transfer of anything from dust to legion .no mention of any console intentions for legion, even if it was only ps4/xbox1 .you just did an event that peopl bought boosters for. .you could of told us that ccp felt it was time to move on from dust in oreder to improve it (as in what you are doing with legion) pn the build up to fanfest and that you were excited to announce something new, without.losing your reveal momment but you let people go all the way to fanfest-not good. . It seems as though legion is the game that dust has been evolving towards but is nowhere near- therefore you folk must of been putting more thought, time, reaction to feedback, and probably even community ideas into- you used us to beta . You not only used us to.beta but it was for a game most won't have access to. 7. it is largely agreed that legion looks great but i'm confused who you intend to play it.. players interested in eve's universe have eve to play, console dust bunnies don't have access to your p.c game. Fps fans already have multitudes of fps games cod,bf,ps,etc. 8 we kept playing dust because it hade a great community (which will go separate ways mostly not to legion) because it was easy to access your whole social group in one glance (you probably kept that but.who will be there?) It had the potential to become a great game (it did but you called it legion and changed it's platform) and everybody knew it couldn't stay on ps3 for alot longer- nobody expected to be told you wouldn't have console progression. Maybe you were all caught up in the excitement you had in legion over the last few months knowing you can announce the finally realised version of dust must of had you all buzzing but for some reason you all completely failed to see that your announcement for a p.c relese wouldn't be met.with cheers from console gamers or that it wouldn't be enough to simply say "here's our new game" without news of effort in dust getting anything in the new game. You also missed the fact announcing a new game in dust's keynote was a bad idea... what have you people been on? really i mean it seems like you've all been sniffing up the office glue.
Cal Predine StarKnight Security 61	Posted - 2014.05.03 10:25:00 - [257] - Quote There's a lot of people feeling let down here, and I guess that's understandable. I've been testing Dust since the closed beta in early-to-mid 2012, even got a PS3 for the privilege. I've given lots of feedback, and seen it mostly ignored, and seen the game experience, and the size of its its playerbase, go downhill. That made me feel let down. I feel I've invested a lot in this game. I still think, in fact I'm absolutely certain that project Legion was the right thing to do at this point in time, in fact it's probably even overdue. I gave this just a moment's thought before fanfest, "What would be announced for Dust?" It wasn't too hard to guess - the PS3 is now very much a last-gen console. Sure, it's still current, but someday it won't be, and before long the number of people who still devote that piece of space in their living room to this ageing platform will be quite small. So there had to be a change, and really we all knew that. It would be a change of platform, a big change, and really we all knew that too. And big changes get announced at Fanfest. And, be serious - next year's Fanfest would be too late. The PS3 would be such old news in 12 months' time that most of the (remaining) Dust playerbase would have left already. There'd be nothing left to save. This is the first time I've felt optimistic about a viable New Eden Shooter in over a year. So, having given this just a moment's thought in advance, it wasn't really news to me. I didn't know if it would migrate to PS4, or PC, (or both), but I knew it had to change. And we're all experienced and worldly-wise gamers here, I think if everyone's honest with themselves, they all knew that change had to come. I'm disappointed that Dust never turned into the game so many of us hoped it would be. We wanted a new, responsive, cerebral command-led tactical combat experience. First impressions were very promising, but over time we got a laggy, unresponsive chaotic strafe/bunny-hopper game which rewards the individual for lack of tactical and team-oriented gameplay. To me, it feels dumbed-down and frustrating to see players constantly hamper their team-mates' efforts because WARPOINTSORZ!!! We've not been backward in giving feedback to this effect, so I can only conclude that (as I said very early in the beta) we're apparently asking more than the PS3 can deliver. Time to move on to a new platform which can deliver the game many of us really wanted. Best of luck. I can't imagine an opportunity like this comes up that often, and I look forward to being a part of the project. And remember to look back to the old promo videos of fireteams shooting drones, and clone soldiers stunned by nearby explosions and sliding into cover Brink-style. And multiple battlefield installations being dropped in because they are of tactical value - not just diverting your team's attention from the actual game objectives because blowing them up gives warpoints. And command mode, where all warpoint allocation should be dictated by the plan, not just what gives the easiest reward (Commander says "blow this up" then blowing it up gives warpoints. Otherwise you can get points by capturing it.) That's certainly the game I was, and still am, hoping for. PS3 Slim - Hybrid hard drive with 8GB SSD - South Coast UK - Virgin media cable BB, 20Mbps down, 2Mbps up.
xp3ll3d dust The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 139	Posted - 2014.05.03 10:54:00 - [258] - Quote Rachel Challoner wrote: Quote: David Reid during IGN interview: "There will never be a DUST 514 TWO, this game has a 10 year lifespan and will outlast all these consoles" anyone remember this That is what made me confident. I can start investing money & time into it, and all my investments won't be in vain. Thanks CCP...
Kratek Heshan United Colonial Empire Army Freek Alliance 44	Posted - 2014.05.03 11:39:00 - [259] - Quote no one like your legion crap and i saw the vid you promise all the new maps and cool stuff will come to dust514 last fanfest not in a different game.
Gigo Ormand Miskatonic Corp. 0	Posted - 2014.05.03 11:45:00 - [260] - Quote Hi all. I think the problem isn't that ccp develop a game that its similar to dust. It's fine to develop new games like valkyirie, or even another game similar to dust, yeah it's cool... The problem is that ccp thinks we are morons. If you make a game that totally eclipses another similar game and say that they are different and still developed, you are telling us a nonsense while smiles to the public. If you take an event that lots of us are waiting during a year to talk about dust and present another game instead that has the same characteristics, means that you are replacing the game and making publicity with the event. And if you post in your blog "DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come." seems that you are telling: ey don't worry mercenaries, we are making a countdown of few months to Dust 514 . I have had plenty of fun hours playing Dust and i'm thankful for that, but the development and the "surprises" and the broken promises and the AUR that lot of people has invested to support you, are powerfull reasons to blame this sudden announcement; but ey! this is businesss i think, non ethical responsibility. Sry my bad speech, i don't talk english very well.

Take Off Hoser Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 17	Posted - 2014.05.03 13:25:00 - [261] - Quote keynote was short because they had nothing to say, because dust is dead, because ccp guys kind of seem to be assholes... could have at least started off keynote with an apology. who the **** was the tranny working for ccp lmao.. weirdos
Karl Koekwaus 213	Posted - 2014.05.03 13:52:00 - [262] - Quote Someone just asked the most important question at Fanfest; Dust will get NO new updates. they'll try to stream balance stuff to the game, but don't expect any new mechanics added. Micheal Jackson died for my sins
Jvnx Nightchill Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners Universal Rockstars 2	Posted - 2014.05.03 14:27:00 - [263] - Quote I smell lawsuit
DIXI Flatline Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.05.03 14:31:00 - [264] - Quote The King is dead ! Hail to the King ! DIXI Flatline - Austrian EvE Community - ingame: =Österreich= -
reaper jt Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 26	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:05:00 - [265] - Quote Karl Koekwaus wrote: Someone just asked the most important question at Fanfest; Dust will get NO new updates. they'll try to stream balance stuff to the game, but don't expect any new mechanics added. Dam i think it was obvious tho once legion announced any legion release dates an apology for the way things have been done? Info about other platforms? character transfers? sp aur ect?
Brian LaFleur Falconpunch Hatesurfers 28	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:17:00 - [266] - Quote Proto'G wrote: Man, I was really pulling for you you ccp. I've been with Eve since 2007, and dust from the beginning...but this, this just hurts! It may all be worth it only if the time and money I've invested into Dust transfers into Project Legion, but I don't have much faith. Seems to me an official letter to your player base is due, CCP, with an apology and and some affirmations that what we've invested wasn't a total waste...if you still have that in you. The problem is, they did screw us over intentionally. They used us as beta testers and as funders for an unrelated project. I hope CCP loses all their investors and and the rest of the eve fan base sees them for what they really are. Petals within petals, tadpole; The truth lies beneath an opulence of illusion.
TIGER SHARK1501 The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 4	Posted - 2014.05.03 15:49:00 - [267] - Quote JONAHBENHUR wrote: does it say that dust 514 is shutting down ?? Supposedly CCP signed a 10 year contract with Sony so the game should be up and running that long. If it isn't they'd have to break contract.
TIGER SHARK1501 The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 5	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:08:00 - [268] - Quote Nevyn Tazinas wrote: Hmmm... Mixed feelings about this. I'm an EVE player who came over with the CE release. Enjoyed Dust a lot. And felt it had a lot of potential. So I am disappointed to see that potential not realised. In saying that, if some form of recognition is given to Dust players in Legion, it will really help a lot. Asking for a full transfer is a joke, it will never happen, because it would alienate too many new players. 'Why start this game when people have years of free advantage'. Not to mention all the PC isk that has been farmed that would get dumped into certain peoples wallets and the piles of aurum bought BPO's that would skew any kind of market badly. However giving all Dust players Collectors edition Templar style gear, a small static boost to starting skills & isk, and other items would be a great way to recognise those players contributions to Legion. Even if Dust continues Legion will be heavily influenced by it's progress so far and those players are the ones that have helped to shape that progress. Such compensation would be a joke. I personally have put more money into this game with special packs such as the elite packs, monthly SP boosters and special event packs such as origin than any game I have ever played. I set into playing this game because of the potential that it had with the idea that it was LONG TERM! CCP told us some of what they want to do in the future but failed to cover a loyal fan base with the minimum of letting us know what would happen to us and our characters. I literally have been running a pay for beta so that "Legion" can come out! What a waste.
Stine Control Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 93	Posted - 2014.05.03 16:58:00 - [269] - Quote I know that lots of people don't like the news for Dust 514. But I am very happy and this is the best news I could of hoped for. The simple fact is playstation consoles will never be able to support what I had imagined Dust 514 should be. Now my dreams of life as A mercenary / solider in the universe of New Eden can be realized.
trollsroyce Ametat Security Amarr Empire 690	Posted - 2014.05.03 17:23:00 - [270] - Quote Excellent. I feel this decision is about the only right direction for Dust right now, and the re-branding to EVE Legion is a good call. That said, I'll drop some things that come to my mind about this: Legion will bring the Dust legacy of ISK printing through planetary conquest and character rerolling and add to that the abundance of hacking available for the PC platform. If the linked economy provides a chance for it, EVE empires will find a way to print ISK through the weak link to the sandbox. This includes cheats and bots, but the very real concern is how the pay-to-inject-items economy will connect. I think there should be an extended quarantine period for Legion and EVE economy link. If a portion of the items in game are injected through cash shop, it has a negative effect on the purity of the sandbox economy. I think this should be very carefully looked into in Legion design. P2W cash shop is a necessity, be it for skillpoints and what not, but Legion would be a really good chance at reworking the item part of the cash shop. I'd call for a cosmetic-skillpoint-booster shop with no injected gear. This way also the industry link for producing weapons would be viable in the far future if it's made reality.

Stine Control Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 93	Posted - 2014.05.03 17:49:00 - [271] - Quote I'd like to know what specs A PC would need to run Legion and it might be very useful if CCP can recommend or put together A PC package. Also I hope I can easily use A playstation or Xbox controller on Legion, I don't want A mouse and keyboard player to have any advantage.
DaKillerOfAllTimes DUST University Ivy League 0	Posted - 2014.05.03 17:55:00 - [272] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! you guys flushed us down the toilet. CCP was the most trustable devs, til yesterday
Deamonwrath21 DeathReign Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 2	Posted - 2014.05.03 18:15:00 - [273] - Quote you guys are sad many players are console gamers now, i am very much you sadden me, well if you dont go for ps4 soon planetside 2 will erase the memory of dust 514 and project legion so ccp please impress us and stop worrying about valkeri and give us the dust experience but better on ps4, if so i will became loyal 100%, im not 100% now due to you heartbreaking announcement. im a major fan of dust 514 and wish to play on my playstation
Deamonwrath21 DeathReign Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 2	Posted - 2014.05.03 18:17:00 - [274] - Quote please give us project legion news at e3 2014 please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please
Skihids Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3496	Posted - 2014.05.03 18:38:00 - [275] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: OMG what are you guys complaining about> This looks amazing!! This is what I always dreamed Dust would be when you add the PVE, exploration/scavenging and high/low/null sec. You gotta check out this video of what they've got so far. Sooo cool! http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/2/5674892/project-legion-PC-CCP Think beyond the shiny toy and consider the quality of the people bringing it to you. Let's say that the game really needs to be completely rewritten and the PC is the best platform. Let's even go so far as to say the PS4 can't support their vision. Fine. The way to handle this is to admit it as soon as they come to that conclusion, to mitigate the fallout and reward the playerbase that stuck with them through their failure. What we saw was the opposite. We saw a company lead its player base on with lies in order to milk them of as much cash as possible before admitting failure. We saw CCP make the player base pay for their mistakes. They played the stereotype amoral game company to a "T", sqauandering every ounce of good will they had. CCP condemns real world scamming by its players, but doesn't feel that applies to them. It happily sold expensive Omega boosters that it knew would be essentially worthless once DUST was declared a dead product. Was there not one employee who thought that was a bad idea? Doesn't the PR department have two brain cells to rub together? If they did they would have known this would be a PR disaster. These people thought nothing of enticing players to spend thousands of dollars to fly to Iceland only to be given a "Rouge Wedding" instead of a Keynote. Is anyone in charge not a selfish child? How could they have thought this was a good idea? So that's the moral quality of the people offering you this shiny toy.
Skihids Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3496	Posted - 2014.05.03 18:43:00 - [276] - Quote TIGER SHARK1501 wrote: JONAHBENHUR wrote: does it say that dust 514 is shutting down ?? Supposedly CCP signed a 10 year contract with Sony so the game should be up and running that long. If it isn't they'd have to break contract. They will leave it up as long as it isn't an (Icelandic) ISK sink. Why not milk a dead game for a few more dollars? If interest in DUST dies enough they might get away with shutting it all down with the excuse nobody plays. I'm thinking that might have been an ulterier motive for the ****** way they presented the news.
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4282	Posted - 2014.05.03 19:14:00 - [277] - Quote Is Project legion going to be able to just buy it or is it free to play,or pay every month <---If its this I will probably not be there :( But hoping for the best "Please be free" I'm a Elite heavy "I don't rage.I get even" Please be free
SKOTTY Hellm Valor Company Freedom Fighters 2	Posted - 2014.05.03 19:38:00 - [278] - Quote I encourage All to look into the Legal Ramifications of the Ponzi Scheme that was Dust. In Addition, Join Us in BOYCOTTING DUST 514 on Tuesday May 20th, 2014. Hundreds have Pledged, Thousands are Needed. If CCP and their collective Interests wish Us to Leave, Let's Demonstrate that they WILL Get What They Asked For, But on OUR TERMS.... I Also Ask that You the Community consider a List of Demands... Reasonable and Achievable. They Developed Dust, WE MADE DUST, WE GIVE IT LIFE, WE CAN TAKE IT AWAY!!! The Power Has Always Been, and Continues to be In OUR Hands.... BOYCOTT DUST 514, Tuesday May 20th, 2014. Be Heard By Being Absent and Removing Consent....
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 2967	Posted - 2014.05.03 19:43:00 - [279] - Quote BlackWinter RND wrote: Joey-Number1 wrote: Some console players are so enraged that they don't think clearly anymore, when did they ever do tho. Players from consoles do not realize what EVE Universe is about, they have no idea of it's complexity, deep backstory and scale. It would never reach these states on PS3 or PS4. It can become anything we want on PC, lets focus on the best sides. Noone is screwing console community, they never even cared for the EVE Universe. So why bring your funky asses from pc to our world in the first place? You dangle false hopes and promise, and then realize you wrote a check you can't cash so you cut bait and run. I don't want to hear the world is complex blah blah. Anyone with basic reading comprehension and patience can just sit and read the backstory to Eve. I'm speaking form a general pov and not rage, but these people have a right to be mad. All this time spent only for them to go back to the Pc which will get more and more resources pushed in it's direction. Some of these eve players are dumb as ****...you can tell from their awful gameplay on the battlefield. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
The Jeep Driver Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 28	Posted - 2014.05.03 19:47:00 - [280] - Quote 14 pages of replies to original post, and not one response from anyone at CCP... really?? Was machen sie da?

trollsroyce Ametat Security Amarr Empire 690	Posted - 2014.05.03 20:06:00 - [281] - Quote Another point of interest are the future character swaps and skillpoint proliferation from free-training mercs. IMHO a full character reset should take place upon Legion, to zero SP, in order not to inflate the SP of Legion from get go but rather provide a healthy SP market. The repercussion of Dust legacy SP would be especially bad far down the road when characters are linked into the EVE bazaar with different sp in different games.
Presager Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad. 3	Posted - 2014.05.03 21:16:00 - [282] - Quote Since you are asking about impressions... IGÇÖd say I feel that you have some good ideas and concepts about developing your universe but incompetent in bringing those to life. Dust should have been a much more diverse and interesting game as it was promised. It was even slowly getting better and wider and now itGÇÖs obviously going to be neglected. Relying on my 1.5 ear experience of Dust 514 which was good in short bursts (and promising) but mostly caused severe rage breakouts facing glitches, poor level design, imbalanced mechanics, more glitches, scrubs exploiting listed above, boring grind etcGÇª IGÇÖm definitely NOT playing, buying, baking, subscribing or following any of your new projects. Not unless you get s**t done with DUST.
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 286	Posted - 2014.05.03 21:20:00 - [283] - Quote on a side note: they could put all of dust514 players sp into our legion characters by turning it from earned SP, back into bonus sp. We would still have to earn it all back, but it would be collectively available :P. As long as the cap remains the same % and If the sp gathering system is remotely the same I could start all over this way. Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 286	Posted - 2014.05.03 21:22:00 - [284] - Quote Oh...and if you take my dren **, i will pluck out your eyes. Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.**
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 484	Posted - 2014.05.03 21:25:00 - [285] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! You mean to tell me that you think the Pc version will be better than the PS3 version ? Thats funny. SO you think your 2.5 k peak fanbase willl help you keep the game alive? Do you think any PS4 owners will play Valkyrie ? Speaking for my self as a PC and ps3/ PS4 owner . I think your company has just committed suicide. You have failed to port your game over to the next gen of console you've succeeded in alienating your customer base. Which is a massive PR night mare. Game magazines will document the history of your game, and your track record is one succession of failure after another in regards to anything except EVE and that game most endearing traits are player driven. You've succeeded in making the most colossal claims ending in failure, of all time. First boasting that DUST 514 would be the first cross platform game played on 1 server integrating and bringing New Eden universe to the console player failing at that and reverting back to PC only version. Showing all your other software peers that you cant even port your games. Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 126	Posted - 2014.05.03 21:29:00 - [286] - Quote Evicer wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! You mean to tell me that you think the Pc version will be better than the PS3 version ? Thats funny. SO you think your 2.5 k peak fanbase willl help you keep the game alive? Do you think any PS4 owners will play Valkyrie ? Speaking for my self as a PC and ps3/ PS4 owner . I think your company has just committed suicide. You have failed to port your game over to the next gen of console you've succeeded in alienating your customer base. Which is a massive PR night mare. Game magazines will document the history of your game, and your track record is one succession of failure after another in regards to anything except EVE and that game most endearing traits are player driven. You've succeeded in making the most colossal claims ending in failure, of all time. First boasting that DUST 514 would be the first cross platform game played on 1 server integrating and bringing New Eden universe to the console player failing at that and reverting back to PC only version. Showing all your other software peers that you cant even port your games. Im just ready for Valkrie for PS4. :D. Time to shoot them down. Ps4 is current gen not Next gen. If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 488	Posted - 2014.05.03 21:46:00 - [287] - Quote Valkyrie lol thats funny. Will that game have one map for a year? then a couple more the next filled with memory leaks? Wil it have a version in its beta phase that bricks(hard freezes and crashes CODEX) PS4's? Will they release it and a year later shelve it ? Who's going to support that game? You mean the fanbase that they abandoned in DUST? (shakes head) I dont see that happening........ Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 286	Posted - 2014.05.03 22:01:00 - [288] - Quote As much fun as futuristic dog fighting can be, I definitely won't be supporting that game. Especially when there's a free one on that only requires unity to play it. It's not the best, but it combines capital ships, frigates, escorts, and fighters on the same 3d map environment. Why would I only dogfight? When I can do nuclear bombing runs on an outpost, while my fleet engages the enemy, and provides missile defense. Then dock back up with my 9 co-pilots in our carrier, and warp to the next enemy outpost. Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 126	Posted - 2014.05.03 22:11:00 - [289] - Quote Evicer wrote: Valkyrie lol thats funny. Will that game have one map for a year? then a couple more the next filled with memory leaks? Wil it have a version in its beta phase that bricks(hard freezes and crashes CODEX) PS4's? Will they release it and a year later shelve it ? Who's going to support that game? You mean the fanbase that they abandoned in DUST? (shakes head) I dont see that happening........ You're to stupid to understand and you'll also regret it. If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
Karl Koekwaus 217	Posted - 2014.05.03 22:40:00 - [290] - Quote Evicer wrote: CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! You mean to tell me that you think the Pc version will be better than the PS3 version ? Thats funny. SO you think your 2.5 k peak fanbase willl help you keep the game alive? Do you think any PS4 owners will play Valkyrie ? Speaking for my self as a PC and ps3/ PS4 owner . I think your company has just committed suicide. You have failed to port your game over to the next gen of console you've succeeded in alienating your customer base. Which is a massive PR night mare. Game magazines will document the history of your game, and your track record is one succession of failure after another in regards to anything except EVE and that game most endearing traits are player driven. You've succeeded in making the most colossal claims ending in failure, of all time. First boasting that DUST 514 would be the first cross platform game played on 1 server integrating and bringing New Eden universe to the console player failing at that and reverting back to PC only version. Showing all your other software peers that you cant even port your games. I don't really think the Dust customer base has to support Legion, the EVE forums are damn positive and rightly so. The timing was terrible, but the prospects awesome. Micheal Jackson died for my sins

Kolas7 Rebelion TLC. Caps and Mercs 7	Posted - 2014.05.03 22:52:00 - [291] - Quote why anyone from CCP answer too many questions?? Fck u guys. We wont care about your new projects, just like you dont care us right now. PUTOS!
z z top Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.05.03 22:55:00 - [292] - Quote fuc k you and your **** vaporware concept its all the same ** we have heard since 2009
TIGER SHARK1501 The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 8	Posted - 2014.05.03 23:55:00 - [293] - Quote Spartan MK420 wrote: on a side note: they could put all of dust514 players sp into our legion characters by turning it from earned SP, back into bonus sp. We would still have to earn it all back, but it would be collectively available :P. As long as the cap remains the same % and If the sp gathering system is remotely the same I could start all over this way. Hmmmm lets see go from a year's worth of time and effort into starting from scratch essentially losing the characters and gear that we all worked to get. I think not. The funniest thing about this is you don't hear anyone from CCP stepping up to explain the situation and calm down an angered likely soon to be former fan base.
Jvnx Nightchill Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners Universal Rockstars 5	Posted - 2014.05.04 00:26:00 - [294] - Quote Well I not going to jump on the Legion bandwagon, DUST would have worked if they implemented the features they promised not cook up stupid crap. Between this debacle and my major dislike for the majority of the planned 'features' for the Kronos expansion on Eve it is likely I'm going let my 3 Eve accounts lapse and never touch another CCP product again. I'm far from "Rage-quit" mentality, just fed up with the nonsense. Also I think Legion is going to be long in the wings for development, plus DUST won't be around to be the testbed. If only half of the people posting about charge backs and filing complaints with SOE/PSN are true. Sony will likely pull the plug, the data may be on CCP's servers but PSN sure as hell can axe the access if PR gets too bad.
Deamonwrath21 DeathReign Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 5	Posted - 2014.05.04 00:44:00 - [295] - Quote If i dont see project legion on ps4, im not gonna play a ccp game again because i cant buy a gaming pc, beware of planetside 2 and tom clancy the division
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4285	Posted - 2014.05.04 00:51:00 - [296] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Is Project legion going to be able to just buy it or is it free to play,or pay every month <---If its this I will probably not be there :( But hoping for the best "Please be free" Bump I'm a Elite heavy "I don't rage.I get even" Please be free
DELB0Y 9	Posted - 2014.05.04 01:05:00 - [297] - Quote I cant wait for this game to come out on PC. Don't have to buy a PS4 now and I can use that cash for an Oculas Rift. CCP thanks for mentioning in the keynote today about our SP transfer worries. Now if you really wanna put an even bigger smile on my face please announce that you're building this game from the ground up with Ocuals Rift support in mind. Also if you are listening I would really like to know if legion will be compatable with the Xbox 360/One controller or the upcoming Steam controller. Also please show the Playstation fanboys/fangirls some love by making the Dualshop 3/4 compatible aswell. This game is gonna be soooo much better off in the long term being on PC boys and girls. If you've always been a console gamer my advice is save your money buy a PC with a similar price tag to a PS4 and then plug your PC into your TV and your Dualshock 3/4 into your new PC and then sit back and let the good times roll. You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?
Adan Montano Pietsch Ahrendee Frontlinez 3	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:10:00 - [298] - Quote DELB0Y wrote: I cant wait for this game to come out on PC. Don't have to buy a PS4 now and I can use that cash for an Oculas Rift. CCP thanks for mentioning in the keynote today about our SP transfer worries. Now if you really wanna put an even bigger smile on my face please announce that you're building this game from the ground up with Ocuals Rift support in mind. Also if you are listening I would really like to know if legion will be compatable with the Xbox 360/One controller or the upcoming Steam controller. Also please show the Playstation fanboys/fangirls some love by making the Dualshop 3/4 compatible aswell. This game is gonna be soooo much better off in the long term being on PC boys and girls. If you've always been a console gamer my advice is save your money buy a PC with a similar price tag to a PS4 and then plug your PC into your TV and your Dualshock 3/4 into your new PC and then sit back and let the good times roll. Honestly bro you're a fuking ignorant piece of sht, stop fking acting like a btchy fanboy because you're a pc @ss fcker, maybe if you werent so ret@rded you would realize that if they could do this to their console fanbase they'll do it to any of their fanbases, that is not how gaming companies are suppost to work, hell they're not even a damm gaming company to me anymore they're just a bunch of fcking scam artist looking for a quick buck, so get you're f*cking head out of youre @ss... that is all thank you, im out HMG FTW!!!!!!!
Summit760 Direct Action Resources 0	Posted - 2014.05.04 03:23:00 - [299] - Quote Could all of you calm the hell down seriously...you are all acting like spoiled children, first of all CCP doesn't owe anyone anything it is their game it is in beta they have no obligation to keep this game running if they see a better way, second of all and i cant stress this enough DUST IS NOT ENDING watch all of fanfest go to youtube watch the progression and the sandbox before you make an opinion. Christ sake its like all of you are trying to find something to yell about because you are bored
Mercenary Mercenaries Exuler INC 1	Posted - 2014.05.04 04:33:00 - [300] - Quote the hell man just like that get us to help you then just tell us to fuk off this game had something going for it but now you may as will just shoot this game and put it out of its pain everyone PORTEST FEST chat Join The Fight

Maniak Madness Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 25	Posted - 2014.05.04 07:44:00 - [301] - Quote CCP! I have a question about Legion! Will you be releasing a beta quality game as the full version like you did with dust? Also can we expect you to abandon Legion 12 months after release as well? CCP you just shot yourselves in the foot.. Damn near took off the whole leg. In a completely sane world, madness is the only freedom.
Duck Gun Rautaleijona 145	Posted - 2014.05.04 08:47:00 - [302] - Quote Financially I understand that maintaining PS3 as a platform doesn't make sense in the long run. PS3 market is being cannibalized already by the PS4, so no big gains to be expected by staying in PS3. Also the DUST hasn't gained the momentum in PS store the EVE might have hoped gaining only a few thousand active players without any hope for a brighter future as I haven't seen active campaigns for the game in PS store. Eve probably hoped to get some marketing support from Sony, but apparently the new games rolling in always got the front page etc. so the visibility in the PS store was next to nothing and thus not getting the attention of the large masses. I'm kinda sad, because Dust is a neat game. Even though I like the game it's not something that would make me jump into the PC gaming bandwagon. So once the Dust will be gone from the PS3, I'll be most likely gone from New Eden as well.
IIphalanxII Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2014.05.04 10:29:00 - [303] - Quote i am really glad that i went offline since the PS4 launch release...it was obvious that this thing would happen but a lot of hardcore EVE players didn't want to listen to logic and i can understand that, it happens..the bigget mistake CCP made was not that this was a terrible game and they didn't even try hard to fix it but they angered the community while loosing a lot of peoples trust..that there is a reason for a company to close, to tell you the truth i want CCP to close just for making people spend they're money to smth it was obvious left to die.... when ppl where asking is there a PS4 release and they did not answear you should have known...for all the ppl spending they're money i really feel sorry but don't forget us console players are waiting for Planetside 2 which will come at 2014 eventually... O/ Dust Community ..I.. CCP
Ani X United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 96	Posted - 2014.05.04 12:12:00 - [304] - Quote Thank you for wasting the time and money of hundreds of UPSNE members. I curse the day 2 years ago when I joined the closed beta of DUST 514. What did I think when I supported CCP and this vision with a German DUST blog, with all the recruitment trailers, visiting your booths and your player gatherings, my contributions to the German mercs manual, the chat channels and forums where UPSNE vet players helped new German-speaking players, the hundreds of hours we put into all these alliance talks, preparations for a Planetary Conquest mode that was totally broken in every possible aspect, getting big FUs by CCP customer support, all the time and money I spent for two EVE toons for which I even had to get a ******* PC How could I believe anything of your promises and fall for your scam. I'm done with everything from you, CCP.
Atheor Sindromer Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 81	Posted - 2014.05.04 13:35:00 - [305] - Quote Summit760 wrote: Could all of you calm the hell down seriously...you are all acting like spoiled children, first of all CCP doesn't owe anyone anything it is their game it is in beta they have no obligation to keep this game running if they see a better way, second of all and i cant stress this enough DUST IS NOT ENDING watch all of fanfest go to youtube watch the progression and the sandbox before you make an opinion. Christ sake its like all of you are trying to find something to yell about because you are bored Jesus Christ you have no ***** idea how stupid you sound right now.. By now it's not about Dust 514 ending or any like that. Well, kind of, but not entirely.. It's about how CCP ** everybody over. Promising this and that and solely for that people have invested a lot of time AND sometimes money, believing they were helping CCP improving a game that they loved. CCP breaking the news like this is just downright disrespectful. All they had to do was let us know. Months and months beforehand that they were tanking 514. People would have been mad, but not this mad. At least we would know on time and it wouldn't hit as hard. CCP didn't. Why? Because they knew they were going to lose a lot of money if people would just start leaving. So what do they do? They *** put out all these broken promises for how the game will improve, pushing out events and special aurum packs, ... Just to squeeze that nice little last dime out of your pocket. Otherwise, why would they ever wait this long just to bust everybody's balls like this? They're *** crooks disguised as businessmen and I feel like all gamer journalists out there should take note of what they did because this is just ***** disgraceful. So no, don't tell people to calm down because we're acting like spoiled children. We have every right to be angry. Love the sinner, hate the Sindromer.
DELB0Y 9	Posted - 2014.05.04 13:50:00 - [306] - Quote Adan Montano Pietsch wrote: DELB0Y wrote: I cant wait for this game to come out on PC. Don't have to buy a PS4 now and I can use that cash for an Oculas Rift. CCP thanks for mentioning in the keynote today about our SP transfer worries. Now if you really wanna put an even bigger smile on my face please announce that you're building this game from the ground up with Ocuals Rift support in mind. Also if you are listening I would really like to know if legion will be compatable with the Xbox 360/One controller or the upcoming Steam controller. Also please show the Playstation fanboys/fangirls some love by making the Dualshop 3/4 compatible aswell. This game is gonna be soooo much better off in the long term being on PC boys and girls. If you've always been a console gamer my advice is save your money buy a PC with a similar price tag to a PS4 and then plug your PC into your TV and your Dualshock 3/4 into your new PC and then sit back and let the good times roll. Honestly bro you're a fuking ignorant piece of sht, stop fking acting like a btchy fanboy because you're a pc @ss fcker, maybe if you werent so ret@rded you would realize that if they could do this to their console fanbase they'll do it to any of their fanbases, that is not how gaming companies are suppost to work, hell they're not even a damm gaming company to me anymore they're just a bunch of fcking scam artist looking for a quick buck, so get you're fcking head out of youre @ss... that is all thank you, im out Scream louder for me ho!!!!!!! xx You give up our position one more time, I'll bleed you, real quiet, and leave you here. Got that?*
Jvnx Nightchill Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners Universal Rockstars 8	Posted - 2014.05.04 14:31:00 - [307] - Quote Adding further insult to injury... For those who haven't seen the "EVE: Online - The Prophecy" (Fanfest 2014 Trailer) you really should. Much like the Dust promo showing a massive battle involving drones (yea there where supposed to be drones) You see a slick CGI video where Capsuleers, Valkarye Pilots, and Dust Mercs working in tandem. Even having Mercs invading some ship or structure with combat in corridors. I can't even count how many times that was suggested both in Eve's forums as well as DUST514's. Maybe the Merc's in the promo are Legion, really funny they look like the DUST dropsuits to me... On a side note, those proclaiming like new age messiahs that it would be better on a PC are ignorant, a well written FPS will play better on a console due to the specialized hardware than on a PC which is so varied. Consoles also make cheating harder (not impossible, but more difficult)
Anpumesses GunFall Mobilization 0	Posted - 2014.05.04 15:23:00 - [308] - Quote nope, every thing you can do on pc you can do on ps4 for one. And didn't CCP try something like this before, and why do I get the feeling its going to turn out the same way? I'll play dust on ps3 as long as its still there but if my choices are moving to pc or playing elder scrolls on ps4, yeah looks like Ill be hacking and slashing on ps4.
Deamonwrath21 DeathReign Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 5	Posted - 2014.05.04 15:56:00 - [309] - Quote You guys got till e3 next month to announce for ps4 or planetside 2 will take your people, a matter of fact the damn game seams well longer into development than a few months so keep ***** us PlayStation players up the ***** ass ccp, you will lose your most dedicated PlayStation payers
Deamonwrath21 DeathReign Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 5	Posted - 2014.05.04 16:07:00 - [310] - Quote Spartan MK420 wrote: on a side note: they could put all of dust514 players sp into our legion characters by turning it from earned SP, back into bonus sp. We would still have to earn it all back, but it would be collectively available :P. As long as the cap remains the same % and If the sp gathering system is remotely the same I could start all over this way. And aslong as we can play on PlayStation 4 even if we have to restart im on it, i loved how dust is even with the bugs i like. i have a ps4 and watched the keynote with a friend , we went beserked when we heard pc, but the guy looked like he expected us PlayStation fans get mad, damn dude he worked for dice he should have known when you give console gamers a game and technically take it away and if you never give back you caused the preparation for the companys death bed. So please put on ps4 ccp

Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2014	Posted - 2014.05.04 16:53:00 - [311] - Quote My 0.02 ISK, quoted from another thread Cross Atu wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Here's the deal though, only your character's name will be transferred, nothing else is seriously being looked into. So all your time and money spent on this game was futile. This is specifically the thing that needs to change. Moving forward we should provide feedback and ideas for the whole game, the Dust-Legion project not just one of them. A key element of that is to make sure that the transition from Dust to Legion is NOT a full wipe and reset. Assets are one thing, those will change, ISK can be earned again (even if that's not ideal). Here however are some sticking points; BPOs - These were payed for in IRL cash and meant to last (as per the advertisements for them) these items were also included as part of the recent 'EVE Collectors Edition' so stripping them out of Legion, thus stripping them of their value cuts a hunk out of the collectors edition value which was a very recent and promoted sale. That's bad PR and damages player trust. Further SP, the idea that there will be no skill system in Legion, and no migration of all the *hours* of time we've invested into Dust is a serious breach of trust. Not only is a game without a skill system bad for New Eden and sandbox play but gutting the value of all those play hours invested is a serious breach of trust and will cause (rightfully) very hostile responses in the eyes of the community. Too many times has the history of EVE, and the longevity therein, been trotted out during the beta and launch of Dust 514, the connection presented by CCP has been repeated and obvious "We don't abandon our games, we support and develop them for the long haul." that's fine so long as Legion really does support a true migration for Dust players. If however the actual SP and BPO assets (and honestly at least some of the ISK) is all wiped leaving only a character name then there is no persistent ace , no long term support and frankly no more real trust. I am not the longest running EVE:O player by any means but I run 4 accounts there off and on with at least one always active for years. CCP has stated New Eden is linked and universal, as a sandbox not as separate games. I won't be evaluating my continued or future purchase of CCP products/subscriptions based on a game by game filter, I will be looking at the whole company and how they've conducted themselves on balance with regards to quality of products delivered and promises kept. The key element of that is maintaining player trust through transparency and trust. "Adapt or die." is fine, it's actually fun but only when our choices are allowed to remain meaningful and how CCP handles the migration of substantive non-consumable assets from Dust to Legion will absolutely have a key impact on that evaluation. I know for a certainty from speaking with other players (a number of whom, like myself are both EVE:O and Dust 514 players) that I am not the only one who hold this stance. CCP, you have stated that a part of the reason for cross platform gaming was to open New Eden up to new individuals within gaming, if the migration (and information about it) from D514 to Legion is mishandled that goal could not only fall flat but result in an on balance negative effect. I'm a single voice in the community, but it seems to me that's exactly where you do not want to be when pushing towards the launch of new projects such as Legion and Valkyrie. 0.02 ISK Cross SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4285	Posted - 2014.05.04 17:10:00 - [312] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Is Project legion going to be able to just buy it or is it free to play,or pay every month <---If its this I will probably not be there :( But hoping for the best "Please be free" Bump Bump I'm a Elite heavy "I don't rage.I get even" Please be free
The Noob Destroyer Pradox One Proficiency V. 696	Posted - 2014.05.04 17:58:00 - [313] - Quote bumping sticked threads
Adan Montano Pietsch Ahrendee Frontlinez 6	Posted - 2014.05.04 20:41:00 - [314] - Quote DELB0Y wrote: Adan Montano Pietsch wrote: DELB0Y wrote: I cant wait for this game to come out on PC. Don't have to buy a PS4 now and I can use that cash for an Oculas Rift. CCP thanks for mentioning in the keynote today about our SP transfer worries. Now if you really wanna put an even bigger smile on my face please announce that you're building this game from the ground up with Ocuals Rift support in mind. Also if you are listening I would really like to know if legion will be compatable with the Xbox 360/One controller or the upcoming Steam controller. Also please show the Playstation fanboys/fangirls some love by making the Dualshop 3/4 compatible aswell. This game is gonna be soooo much better off in the long term being on PC boys and girls. If you've always been a console gamer my advice is save your money buy a PC with a similar price tag to a PS4 and then plug your PC into your TV and your Dualshock 3/4 into your new PC and then sit back and let the good times roll. Honestly bro you're a fuking ignorant piece of sht, stop fking acting like a btchy fanboy because you're a pc @ss fcker, maybe if you werent so ret@rded you would realize that if they could do this to their console fanbase they'll do it to any of their fanbases, that is not how gaming companies are suppost to work, hell they're not even a damm gaming company to me anymore they're just a bunch of fcking scam artist looking for a quick buck, so get you're f*cking head out of youre @ss... that is all thank you, im out Scream louder for me ho!!!!!!! xx A ho really... is that what you call dudes online since you cant get any in real life HMG FTW!!!!!!!
Deamonwrath21 DeathReign Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 8	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:50:00 - [315] - Quote Adan Montano Pietsch wrote: DELB0Y wrote: Adan Montano Pietsch wrote: DELB0Y wrote: I cant wait for this game to come out on PC. Don't have to buy a PS4 now and I can use that cash for an Oculas Rift. CCP thanks for mentioning in the keynote today about our SP transfer worries. Now if you really wanna put an even bigger smile on my face please announce that you're building this game from the ground up with Ocuals Rift support in mind. Also if you are listening I would really like to know if legion will be compatable with the Xbox 360/One controller or the upcoming Steam controller. Also please show the Playstation fanboys/fangirls some love by making the Dualshop 3/4 compatible aswell. This game is gonna be soooo much better off in the long term being on PC boys and girls. If you've always been a console gamer my advice is save your money buy a PC with a similar price tag to a PS4 and then plug your PC into your TV and your Dualshock 3/4 into your new PC and then sit back and let the good times roll. Honestly bro you're a fuking ignorant piece of sht, stop fking acting like a btchy fanboy because you're a pc @ss fcker, maybe if you werent so ret@rded you would realize that if they could do this to their console fanbase they'll do it to any of their fanbases, that is not how gaming companies are suppost to work, hell they're not even a damm gaming company to me anymore they're just a bunch of fcking scam artist looking for a quick buck, so get you're f*cking head out of youre @ss... that is all thank you, im out Scream louder for me ho!!!!!!! xx A ho really... is that what you call dudes online since you cant get any in real life f you dude we want on ps, its like a pc
ArgosThanat0s M E N A L O N 4	Posted - 2014.05.04 21:52:00 - [316] - Quote TRUST is the most valuable thing a company like CCP has. Today CCP lost all of its assets. So much for the open to community company from Iceland. Shame. I am deleting all my chars in DUST as a protest and of course cancelling all my accounts in Eve. Thank you CCP Rouge for waking me up from a dream. As for the rest of the players.......Back to the roots guys. Divinity is coming ....Titanfall and lots and lots of many games from real software teams and not just a bunch of losers like CCP. CCP - REALLY ? ........ REALLY ?
Stine Control Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 94	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:00:00 - [317] - Quote heres A tune that sums up how I feel about the jump to Legion.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1681	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:53:00 - [318] - Quote Jvnx Nightchill wrote: Adding further insult to injury... For those who haven't seen the "EVE: Online - The Prophecy" (Fanfest 2014 Trailer) you really should. Much like the Dust promo showing a massive battle involving drones (yea there where supposed to be drones) You see a slick CGI video where Capsuleers, Valkarye Pilots, and Dust Mercs working in tandem. Even having Mercs invading some ship or structure with combat in corridors. I can't even count how many times that was suggested both in Eve's forums as well as DUST514's. Maybe the Merc's in the promo are Legion, really funny they look like the DUST dropsuits to me... On a side note, those proclaiming like new age messiahs that it would be better on a PC are ignorant, a well written FPS will play better on a console due to the specialized hardware than on a PC which is so varied. Consoles also make cheating harder (not impossible, but more difficult) they actually talked about that for 2014 last year at fanfest. it was called 'penetration mode'. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
Chime Jigme Gallente Anarchist Movement Extraordinaire 0	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:00:00 - [319] - Quote low genius wrote: Jvnx Nightchill wrote: Adding further insult to injury... For those who haven't seen the "EVE: Online - The Prophecy" (Fanfest 2014 Trailer) you really should. Much like the Dust promo showing a massive battle involving drones (yea there where supposed to be drones) You see a slick CGI video where Capsuleers, Valkarye Pilots, and Dust Mercs working in tandem. Even having Mercs invading some ship or structure with combat in corridors. I can't even count how many times that was suggested both in Eve's forums as well as DUST514's. Maybe the Merc's in the promo are Legion, really funny they look like the DUST dropsuits to me... On a side note, those proclaiming like new age messiahs that it would be better on a PC are ignorant, a well written FPS will play better on a console due to the specialized hardware than on a PC which is so varied. Consoles also make cheating harder (not impossible, but more difficult) they actually talked about that for 2014 last year at fanfest. it was called 'penetration mode'. And penetration we got! From behind... Unexpectedly...
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 19	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:42:00 - [320] - Quote Jvnx Nightchill wrote: On a side note, those proclaiming like new age messiahs that it would be better on a PC are ignorant, a well written FPS will play better on a console due to the specialized hardware than on a PC which is so varied. Consoles also make cheating harder (not impossible, but more difficult) Dust/Legion is not just an FPS though. And the PC architecture gives them better control over the non FPS parts of the game as well as the interaction between it & other EVE Universe games. KB/M also allows a much better C&C type environments for Squad & company leaders to utilise in RTS type interfaces So there is a reasonable argument for the shift to PC based purely on capabilities. There are also counter arguments to keep it on console undoubtedly, but it's down to CCP's weighing of those arguments and they have made a call. With regards to people who refuse to switch, well, tough luck. Being a 'console die-hard' is your issue, not CCP's. A lot of PC players switched to Console just for Dust.

Jokanash PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 2	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:11:00 - [321] - Quote I still don't get why you couldn't go to PS4? Also as of note, if you go to PC I also will be leaving. Sorry, I can justify buying a console every 6 years but I can't upgrade my computer every two years. Loved Dust, back to COD, GoW, and HALO for me.
Nevyn Tazinas Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 19	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:14:00 - [322] - Quote Jokanash wrote: I still don't get why you couldn't go to PS4? Also as of note, if you go to PC I also will be leaving. Sorry, I can justify buying a console every 6 years but I can't upgrade my computer every two years. Loved Dust, back to COD, GoW, and HALO for me. If your PC is brand new top of the line now, it will almost 100% be fine to play legion on. PC's do not need upgrading every two years unless you insist on nothing but the newest devices for it. My 'Gaming PC' is a five or so year old laptop, and it's capable of running every MMO currently on the market including new releases. If it was a Desktop it would still be just as viable.
Jvnx Nightchill Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners Universal Rockstars 10	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:15:00 - [323] - Quote Nevyn Tazinas wrote: Jvnx Nightchill wrote: On a side note, those proclaiming like new age messiahs that it would be better on a PC are ignorant, a well written FPS will play better on a console due to the specialized hardware than on a PC which is so varied. Consoles also make cheating harder (not impossible, but more difficult) Dust/Legion is not just an FPS though. And the PC architecture gives them better control over the non FPS parts of the game as well as the interaction between it & other EVE Universe games. KB/M also allows a much better C&C type environments for Squad & company leaders to utilise in RTS type interfaces So there is a reasonable argument for the shift to PC based purely on capabilities. There are also counter arguments to keep it on console undoubtedly, but it's down to CCP's weighing of those arguments and they have made a call. With regards to people who refuse to switch, well, tough luck. Being a 'console die-hard' is your issue, not CCP's. A lot of PC players switched to Console just for Dust. I'm not a 'console die-hard' by a long shot, I played Eve (still do, at least for now) before Dust514. The fact I already had 3 PS3's (mine and 1 for each child) just was gravy. If Dust514 was released on the PC in the first place I would never had touched it. As for C&C, even in Eve which has a fairly robust fleet management system, people use Teamspeak or alternatives (just not Eve's built in voice system) Dust's marking system could have been improved significantly but the fact is calling audibles works much better than any other method. In relation to RTS I'm guessing you mean Real Time Strategy, only way that would work with a Dust type game is if the C&C guy is in the MCC or Warbarge with a map in front of him/her not someone in a battle with rounds whizzing by their head.
Mex-0 Prawnstar101 9	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:51:00 - [324] - Quote I hope you can play it using a ps3 controller connected to Mac/PC. I can't aim at anything with a keyboard/mouse combo. Caldari Scout + Combat Rifle + Cloak = Bandit. Looking for a good corp to fund proto people Weekend Warrior (a¦á_a¦á)
WeswePengu Occuton Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 110	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:52:00 - [325] - Quote RED-EYE -JEDI wrote: if you announce this for PS4 im happy, but just PC. great way to kill your console player base. im moving to Destiny then, and back to dark souls 2. Round of applause to CCP. for killing there community. I take my hat of to you. its impressive you can actually ** off all of us dust bunnies at the same time. or should I say DUST guinea pigs ? Yeah, I'm switching to Destiny too. Proto Scout / Dropship Pilot. 1st Intel** E4 "+¦+¦-ä+¦+¦-ä+«-â++-à++ -â+¦ ++ -â+¦+¦+¡-é."
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1721	Posted - 2014.05.05 04:06:00 - [326] - Quote Nevyn Tazinas wrote: Jvnx Nightchill wrote: On a side note, those proclaiming like new age messiahs that it would be better on a PC are ignorant, a well written FPS will play better on a console due to the specialized hardware than on a PC which is so varied. Consoles also make cheating harder (not impossible, but more difficult) Dust/Legion is not just an FPS though. And the PC architecture gives them better control over the non FPS parts of the game as well as the interaction between it & other EVE Universe games. KB/M also allows a much better C&C type environments for Squad & company leaders to utilise in RTS type interfaces So there is a reasonable argument for the shift to PC based purely on capabilities. There are also counter arguments to keep it on console undoubtedly, but it's down to CCP's weighing of those arguments and they have made a call. With regards to people who refuse to switch, well, tough luck. Being a 'console die-hard' is your issue, not CCP's. A lot of PC players switched to Console just for Dust. we don't care what platform it's on. we're talking about 2 years from now minimum before launch. we care that it's not dust. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Dirt Nap Squad. 1721	Posted - 2014.05.05 04:07:00 - [327] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: I hope you can play it using a ps3 controller connected to Mac/PC. I can't aim at anything with a keyboard/mouse combo. you can pick up a logitech for 20 bucks that'll work just fine. i hear the old version of the xbox controller (the wired one) works on windows systems, also. eatsbabies cienfuegos steward of the renegade alliance.
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4288	Posted - 2014.05.05 06:02:00 - [328] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Is Project legion going to be able to just buy it or is it free to play,or pay every month <---If its this I will probably not be there :( But hoping for the best "Please be free" Bump Bump Bump I'm a Elite heavy "I don't rage.I get even" Please be free
Shaira Ilv Enna-Ress Maphia Clan Corporation 36	Posted - 2014.05.05 07:46:00 - [329] - Quote 17 pages of Laughing so hard... The acronym "ROTFL" doesn't match my status right now: everyone raging against CCP and their behavior when I said months ago that things were going worse and worse, but none believed me. Did you spend money for this game? You were FOOLS and all you deserve is your money going away with who deceived you for the whole time. My only real regret is none can't nominate CCP as "Worst company of America" since they're not a US group: I'm 200% sure EA would have lost against CCP this time. Have fun... oh wait, nope. Don't have fun at all!!! Dwelling on the past Struggling for the future ~ A Burning Life ~
xXCleopatra FlippantXx Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 61	Posted - 2014.05.05 10:54:00 - [330] - Quote This is the best thing that could have happened to the game! I was pulling my hair out trying to find all the info on how DUST 514 will eventually integrate into Eve in the future. Still without to much of it I played and played DUST from mordus Trials up to now til it pushed me far up the wall, and I enjoyed it, all the while being super sad about the lack of integration. You pure shooter people are not alowed to be sad about a EVE game finding itself in a big way. Stop being a fachist and go with the flow. Thats like being against something good emerging. Aw, so they took your candy away eh? Well boo hoo, The store is full of em, you just gotta put your pants on and go get em. Or be gratefull you can finally Get a Computer now, and play the new game in a bigger way instead of a PS4 and feal liberated. Can you Immagine what this does to the power of the co operations? + You will finally talk to EVE, the most interesting game in the world, in a meaningfull way! And Graphs will be good +1.000.000 to CCP, if you stick with em through the bump they do Great work, as allways

Raamstar Faraway Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.05.05 12:25:00 - [331] - Quote I would have preferred you completed the WODMMO to be honest...
Mad Syringe ReDust Inc. 288	Posted - 2014.05.05 13:00:00 - [332] - Quote I got only one question, why on earth should anbody trust in a company, that has shown nothing but disrespect to their customers so far? CCP seems to be so far lost in their HTFU meme, that they don't get that the vast majority of gamers doesn't like to be **** upon. Eggsters might be the exception here, but I don't get people that enjoy your griefing/grind-fest anyway... So far the only "new" feature in Legion seems to be the abillity to backstab/betray your allys during salvage missions? Seriously!? You know what, I'll build a PC rig. But I doubt very much that it will ever see a CCP product on it. Especcially if you guys think I'll drop any more money in your pathetic games. Can't believe I dropped more than 100-ú in Dust and 50Gé¼ in eve... Well no more money for your empty promises. Wished I had known of Star Citizen before I wasted my money on you lot!
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4350	Posted - 2014.05.05 13:26:00 - [333] - Quote Joey-Number1 wrote: Some console players are so enraged that they don't think clearly anymore, when did they ever do tho. Players from consoles do not realize what EVE Universe is about, they have no idea of it's complexity, deep backstory and scale. It would never reach these states on PS3 or PS4. And neither do you have any idea about the CCP-shaped dildo currently lodged right up your back end. Markdown:
Deamonwrath21 DeathReign Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 11	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:07:00 - [334] - Quote Nevyn Tazinas wrote: Jvnx Nightchill wrote: On a side note, those proclaiming like new age messiahs that it would be better on a PC are ignorant, a well written FPS will play better on a console due to the specialized hardware than on a PC which is so varied. Consoles also make cheating harder (not impossible, but more difficult) Dust/Legion is not just an FPS though. And the PC architecture gives them better control over the non FPS parts of the game as well as the interaction between it & other EVE Universe games. KB/M also allows a much better C&C type environments for Squad & company leaders to utilise in RTS type interfaces So there is a reasonable argument for the shift to PC based purely on capabilities. There are also counter arguments to keep it on console undoubtedly, but it's down to CCP's weighing of those arguments and they have made a call. With regards to people who refuse to switch, well, tough luck. Being a 'console die-hard' is your issue, not CCP's. A lot of PC players switched to Console just for Dust. Hey dumb ass look at ps4s architecture on line or open one up its same as a power pc architecture just way less expensive, so there is no damn reason not to be on ps4
knighteyes Defenders of the Helghast Dream Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 0	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:07:00 - [335] - Quote I can't believe you would do this to us it was a great we ps3player stuck by you all the way we spent mony real ******* mony we spent hr and hrs playing your game now you want to take it back bs we got nothing out of it I will not be playing your games no more you stab us in the back I am a officer of the defenders proud of it Defenders are a lay back corp fun and they take care of there own
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 459	Posted - 2014.05.05 15:21:00 - [336] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: I hope you can play it using a ps3 controller connected to Mac/PC. I can't aim at anything with a keyboard/mouse combo. I keep breaking those little analog knobs...from the near perpetual straffing, and straff aiming. There will be bullets. ACR+SMG [CEO of Terror]
MadMatt Four20 Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 64	Posted - 2014.05.05 20:47:00 - [337] - Quote As long as my SP , ISK, and assests go to legion i will be somewhat happy. Although i do not like FPS's on the PC .. they r meant to be played on consules IMO. Everyone is mad because of how CCP released the news about Legion and that Dust is pretty much the best it will ever be with no new content ... Huge let down for Dust fans.
Justice Darling King Brothers 62	Posted - 2014.05.05 22:27:00 - [338] - Quote IDEA! give us all a bil and see what happen HAHAHAHA
Black Squggulle The Southern Legion Final Resolution. 23	Posted - 2014.05.06 06:41:00 - [339] - Quote is this means that we cannot play dust 514 on ps3??? As a man sow, shall he reap. and I know that talk is cheap. But the heat of the battle is as sweet as the victory.
Fristname Family name The New Age Outlaws Proficiency V. 76	Posted - 2014.05.06 07:17:00 - [340] - Quote Everyone please go take a nap. Or have a snikers you get a bit teen girly when you are hungrey. I will, be unhappy with the change but thats what ice cream and cake are for. This will make the game wayy wayy wayyyyy better. But the playerbase and the income, from the pc verison will plumet and ccp will not care and eve will laugh at as for no reason.. and ill just logi on bf4 and hope dust comes back better than ever. Australian mercy worky.

Zimander 43	Posted - 2014.05.06 17:33:00 - [341] - Quote and you think ppl who play on ps3 just like that gone go buy a gaming PC CCP go F**K yourself u just use us that all
Rorian Gray HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 82	Posted - 2014.05.06 20:11:00 - [342] - Quote I've been holding my tongue waiting for more info to drop, but I think it's been long enough. I don't like to complain, but CCP has shown they might be a bit out of touch with the players at the moment. 1) The DUST keynote was simply a **** move to the console-only gamers you attracted with the release of DUST. Many of us DUST players, myself included, are PC FPS gamers and/or EVE players also, and will be happy with Legion on PC, when we're not playing EVE. But I feel the need to apologize to the console-only gamers in my corp whom I persuaded to invest money in DUST. They invested based on CCP's reputation for being upfront and transparent largely, in the belief that DUST would persist on console after PS3 and would be developed on PS3 for several years. They invested not because they loved the game as it is, but because they bought in on a promise of what it was becoming. DUST players paid to fly to Iceland to attend fanfest because they wanted to see MTACs and player markets revealed, and celebrate the work CCP had done on DUST since 1.8 and what they would be able to enjoy in the upcoming year. And you invited them there on their own dime, and you broke up with them in front of a live audience. 2) Post-fanfest communication has been too little and too slow. CCP owes a front-page apology to DUST players for leaving any information about the future of DUST out of the DUST keynote, for waiting that long to suggest you were looking in another direction, and for the delays in getting information out after the announcement. 3) CCP needs to acknowledge that there are DUST players who have no interest in a PC FPS, and that there are players who want to know the future of DUST besides how it relates to Project Legion. CCP made statements before acknowledging the importance of new blood on console and how it would make the PC experience for EVE players better by giving more content. I agreed with that, and now you have those players, and they want to know straight forwardly what content you've been working on since 1.8 dropped. If that is nothing, they deserve to know. If the player market that was still in discussion recently has been dropped, they deserve to know. The only statement I have heard is that balancing and matchmaking will be worked on, and left us to speculate whether that meant that was _all_ that would still be worked on or not. If content development is done and the game is considered feature complete, please state so plainly and on the front page. If not, please at least share something that has been done in the sprint[s] since 1.8, or what is on the current sprint backlog. The CCP I hailed as rockstars would have done this already, and it concerns and embarrasses me how this is being handled so far. Please get your act together for all our sakes.
Stine Control Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 95	Posted - 2014.05.06 23:27:00 - [343] - Quote Stine Control wrote: heres A tune that sums up how I feel about the jump to Legion.
Eldest Dragon Nyain Chan 468	Posted - 2014.05.07 05:12:00 - [344] - Quote I cant believe it tbh ccp, really thought this might be something special for us console gamers one day, I hope everyone still plays I dont want dust to die. Made a lot of friends, had a lot of fun, but what a waste of money. So you think cloak/sg scouts are op huh, tbh idk if it's op or not, but i'll tell ya one thing I sure do like it lol.
INeXusI Synthetic Clones 1	Posted - 2014.05.07 07:54:00 - [345] - Quote So this is how Dust 514 will end? Are you shrink wrapped? Dust 514 might have its flaws and upsets but there is no game like it. I get mad at it and walk away but it always seems to pull me back and make me pick up the controller. This was my go to game, now to see it crumble before my eyes by a company full of lies and bad reputation is just de grading. The PSN Community might be small be we are loyal. We are loyal enough to put up with all your flaws from day one when it was in Beta. Even since the next gen consoles were released I still get on my ps3 just to play Dust and so do thousands of other people. So to all of you who say your proud to be in CCP and are proud with all your failures, here's a slow ***** clap for all of you ***** bitches. We Stand Together, We Fight Together, We Die Together, We Do Not Surrender.
Tarkarr DooM PSU GHOST SYNDICATE 2	Posted - 2014.05.07 15:26:00 - [346] - Quote Stine Control wrote: The Plan : Dust 514 + EvE Legion - my thoughts Stine Control wrote: heres A tune that sums up how I feel about the jump to Legion. Close Stine Control But I think this will sum it up better for all concerned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JOy-nyh9q0
Mr m4gic XSKvLLX 56	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:03:00 - [347] - Quote I hope you realease some controllers to go with the new game :D Have you seen my baseball??
Mr m4gic XSKvLLX 56	Posted - 2014.05.07 16:15:00 - [348] - Quote now ive watched the video im very very excited this is everything I thought dust was going to be and it was so obvious it was coming, ccp u are geniuses, i hope we stand to make money transporting mercs around in EVE and ...omg Happy Have you seen my baseball??
XxWarlordxX97 BurgezzE.T.F 4296	Posted - 2014.05.07 19:27:00 - [349] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: Is Project legion going to be able to just buy it or is it free to play,or pay every month <---If its this I will probably not be there :( But hoping for the best "Please be free" Bump Bump Bump bump I'm a Elite heavy "I don't rage.I get even" Please be free
Retarn Dominus H.A.R.V.E.S.T. Lokun Listamenn 59	Posted - 2014.05.07 19:29:00 - [350] - Quote This sucks. If i'm going to spend money it will be on a ps4 not a pc :( Just when i was getting good Got a "DUST" platoon on BF4 if anyone is interested. What? You think your Complex armour plating on your sweet Proto will save you? Think again BOOM

Motoko KitsunePilot Freek Coalition Freek Alliance 9	Posted - 2014.05.07 23:34:00 - [351] - Quote ok so I read through five pages of this thread & plan to read all of them (currently eighteen pages), some of these things I find raise good points but first of all I am going to start with the two that made me ** myself with laughter. Victoria Amarrus wrote: I loved dust b/c I could play it when my pc was otherwise occupied. Dude why is your pc "occupied" ? oh god... wait... please don't tell me your doing what I think your doing... ok yes I know Megan Fox is hot but dude while your gaming ?.. SERIOUSLY (Trolololololol) Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: I'm just going to be swearing on the forums until i'm banned. then I'll do it with an alt. And another. and another. LMAO is it just me or does this kinda remind anyone of a less smart version of what unhappy PC gamers have been doing for a long time known as DOS hacking? XD anyone? anyone? Ok now that we have all had a good chuckle (or at least I have) I will mention the post I liked & one that I think I can help with a little. Haerr wrote:** I wouldn't mind keeping my ~50 mil SP but I honestly don't care if we have to start at 0. DUST ON PC! YES! YES! YES! \o/ I want to throw my money at you CCP, but I'll wait until we get more information on Legion. I think this pretty much sums up my sentiments exactly :D being a PC gamer anyway & with my new 2GB AMD Graphics card already in the post on its way to me playing "Dust" but on the PC will be excellent. I applaud you CCP, bravo, bravo, should have been on the PC sooner but bravo anyway, cant wait to see more from "Project Legion/EVE Legion" in the near future. As for all you peeps who want it on your nearly pukes saying this "Next Gen" console/consoles please don't ruin what could potentially be an epic game, ALL consoles are too limited & confined & always will be to limited & confined, IMO putting it on PS3 in the first place was a bad Idea but I still played Dust 514 because at least they aloud me to use my dang mouse & keyboard cus IMO the only thing controllers are good for is flight sim's & driving games, even then I prefer a wheel for a driving game & stick for a flight sim. Vespasian Andendare wrote: Will it be supported on Mac? Since EVE online supports most decent Mac's then I don't see why Project Legion/EVE Legion wouldn't, the Mac version will probably be released later as it always is with every game as most developers use Direct X to design there games & then need to make it run with other programs, HOWEVER if you don't want to wait you could run the "Windows" version of any game on any operating system using programs such as Wine.
Mori Fellhammer Red Leg Rock Lizards 0	Posted - 2014.05.08 12:01:00 - [352] - Quote I am not surprised that CCP dropped the ball on this like that have a dozen other times on Eve, they are getting into a cycle of failed projects. They had World of Darkness and screwed that up, hell they haven't even fixed a number of known bugs in Eve that they have known about for years, yes years. As for Legion, I hope they are ready to deal with the long list of hacks that will come out for the game for those idiots that must always win and can't handle losing. It will be a very unbalanced game that they will never get right, they will always favor one side and they will always over scale the "rebalances" just like they have in Eve. I spent a number of years as a Beta Tester for the Americas Army game and I saw just how much of a pain in the balls that could be. CCP will not be able to get this switch to Legion going and will end up canning more of it's staff to make up for the monetary short falls it will suffer in development costs. In the mean time, I recommend every Dust 514 player stop investing any money in Dust since CCP will not be earning that money from you.
Gaius Calinus Incarnation Soldiers Die Fremdenlegion 5	Posted - 2014.05.08 14:43:00 - [353] - Quote Adan Montano Pietsch wrote: DELB0Y wrote: I cant wait for this game to come out on PC. Don't have to buy a PS4 now and I can use that cash for an Oculas Rift. CCP thanks for mentioning in the keynote today about our SP transfer worries. Now if you really wanna put an even bigger smile on my face please announce that you're building this game from the ground up with Ocuals Rift support in mind. Also if you are listening I would really like to know if legion will be compatable with the Xbox 360/One controller or the upcoming Steam controller. Also please show the Playstation fanboys/fangirls some love by making the Dualshop 3/4 compatible aswell. This game is gonna be soooo much better off in the long term being on PC boys and girls. If you've always been a console gamer my advice is save your money buy a PC with a similar price tag to a PS4 and then plug your PC into your TV and your Dualshock 3/4 into your new PC and then sit back and let the good times roll. Honestly bro you're a fuking ignorant piece of sht, stop fking acting like a btchy fanboy because you're a pc @ss fcker, maybe if you werent so ret@rded you would realize that if they could do this to their console fanbase they'll do it to any of their fanbases, that is not how gaming companies are suppost to work, hell they're not even a damm gaming company to me anymore they're just a bunch of fcking scam artist looking for a quick buck, so get you're fcking head out of youre @ss... that is all thank you, im out Adan's few sentences explain the problem completely! Hail Caldari !!* Hail to the Caldari State !!!
Jvnx Nightchill Tripoint Mercetile Rimrunners Universal Rockstars 17	Posted - 2014.05.08 15:00:00 - [354] - Quote Gaius Calinus wrote: Adan Montano Pietsch wrote: DELB0Y wrote: I cant wait for this game to come out on PC. Don't have to buy a PS4 now and I can use that cash for an Oculas Rift. CCP thanks for mentioning in the keynote today about our SP transfer worries. Now if you really wanna put an even bigger smile on my face please announce that you're building this game from the ground up with Ocuals Rift support in mind. Also if you are listening I would really like to know if legion will be compatable with the Xbox 360/One controller or the upcoming Steam controller. Also please show the Playstation fanboys/fangirls some love by making the Dualshop 3/4 compatible aswell. This game is gonna be soooo much better off in the long term being on PC boys and girls. If you've always been a console gamer my advice is save your money buy a PC with a similar price tag to a PS4 and then plug your PC into your TV and your Dualshock 3/4 into your new PC and then sit back and let the good times roll. Honestly bro you're a fuking ignorant piece of sht, stop fking acting like a btchy fanboy because you're a pc @ss fcker, maybe if you werent so ret@rded you would realize that if they could do this to their console fanbase they'll do it to any of their fanbases, that is not how gaming companies are suppost to work, hell they're not even a damm gaming company to me anymore they're just a bunch of fcking scam artist looking for a quick buck, so get you're f*cking head out of youre @ss... that is all thank you, im out Adan's few sentences explain the problem completely! Lol, Adlan's post may be hostile and profane, but it is required sometimes, AND it is accurate on so many levels
Podge89 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 7	Posted - 2014.05.09 12:44:00 - [355] - Quote Haha come on, this is typical! We all knew deep down that ccp was a joke of a company, we just kept justifying their incompetence. I love this game had faith in wer it could go but honestly never had faith in ccp, as soon as they realised they put their foot in their mouth and couldn't deliver on all their promises they jumped ship. Ccp can suck my left nut and kiss the inside of my hole I'll never play another of your "well thought out games". Il play dust till its gone but thats about it, its been nothin but let downs ccp F*ck you very much for wasting my time I'll Sleep When I'm Dead
Jaed D'jaegweir Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 12	Posted - 2014.05.09 21:13:00 - [356] - Quote Glad I kept my Atari 2600 with 200+ games, , pacman anyone? "We do not live in a world of reality. We live in a world of perceptions." -Gerald Simmons
Thokk Nightshade Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 364	Posted - 2014.05.09 23:33:00 - [357] - Quote Jaed D'jaegweir wrote: Glad I kept my Atari 2600 with 200+ games, , pacman anyone? Do you have Pitfall, Frogger, Asteroids, and Missle Command? four of my favorite games of all time! 1-800-345-SONY. PRESS 2 THEN 2. GET YOUR REFUND. RE-POST THIS IN YOUR SIG. Be polite, they want to refund you!
Faith Opper Tharumec 6	Posted - 2014.05.10 04:35:00 - [358] - Quote I don't want Legion... You wanted my opinion, Continue Dust.. or you will be losing another player, like the rest from Eve and Dust community.
Raydeus Christin Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 4	Posted - 2014.05.10 07:18:00 - [359] - Quote Personally I'm actually looking forward to playing Legion and Valkyrie. But that is from the perspective of someone who hasn't played Dust for very long (my char doesn't even have 7 million SP yet.) Specially considering the PS3 was already a very old console back when Dust launched. I just hope that whatever they do when the transition is made they actually find a good way to transfer progress from Dust to the new game. If they make it so having been a Veteran from Dust gives you very tangible perks it would be a great start. ...Just not sure CCP will be capable of doing that in a sensible manner.
Rahmel Tedder Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1	Posted - 2014.05.10 09:19:00 - [360] - Quote Thats so **** up ccp i been playing dust for 2 years i was really excited wit this game all my hard work in to this now yur bringing it to pc thats so ** up yea yu basically used us. Wtf you could have made it better still on the ps3 or bring it to the ps4 btw i waste my money on this game and y'all doing us wrong. Why ccp just ***** why

Big Swool 1	Posted - 2014.05.10 15:44:00 - [361] - Quote Ok I had to know this is coming because everytime CCP updated it sux'd and the next update had to patch the last update real dumb people work'n on this game, well I meant work'd on this game. Well I see if CCP is drop'n a game stay away. Bullsh*t
Tread Loudly 2 Who Remains 4	Posted - 2014.05.11 03:52:00 - [362] - Quote I may not be well known in the entire community but I think I speak for the entire part of the community that is console only when I say that this makes me almost want to stop playing dust if it will just be dropped for a PC FPS in one year... I Like Tanks! 3 things I can not stand: Liars, Cheaters, and Forge Guns
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN 174	Posted - 2014.05.12 00:15:00 - [363] - Quote I'm conflicted...I want Dust to succeed still, and become all I've heard and imagined. That means it has to go on the PC to make it best for you guys... But...I can't follow. My family doesn't have the money to sport a computer that powerful to run Legion (It looks like it has tough requirements). I know NOTHING about PC gaming, how to build a "rig", how to use a Mouse and Keyboard. Most importantly though, I don't WANT to move. I want Dust to be all i believed on what you said, the PS3. I can understand it going to the PS4, many people are getting it. Things I need to know: Will Legion eventually move to PS4? Is it green lit? What happens if it isn't? Why didn't you make a Dust 514 Keynote, and a Legion one? I just want Dust to be good...but i want to come too... What i'm trying to say is, I understand From the Clone Wars I came. Here, I am a man among tamed beasts, and a god...among men.- 501st Headstrong.
Corp Jezus Kinsho Swords Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.05.12 15:28:00 - [364] - Quote After reading several pages of irrelevant comments, i realised that people does not accept that Dust514 was not working as planned by CCP and that they are doing what is best for this "aspect" of Eve universe. From my point of view, it was a mistake from the beginning to put up this game on PS3. I am excited and thrilled about projet LEGION that seems to met all my thoughts about what it should be and how it should interract with Eve Online. CCP have my complet support on this project and i am willing to participate in the development process. Thank you CCP and we all know you will take the right decision for us, fan of Eve univers!
Gaius Calinus Incarnation Soldiers Die Fremdenlegion 5	Posted - 2014.05.12 17:41:00 - [365] - Quote Corp Jezus wrote: After reading several pages of irrelevant comments, i realised that people does not accept that Dust514 was not working as planned by CCP and that they are doing what is best for this "aspect" of Eve universe. From my point of view, it was a mistake from the beginning to put up this game on PS3. I am excited and thrilled about projet LEGION that seems to met all my thoughts about what it should be and how it should interract with Eve Online. CCP have my complet support on this project and i am willing to participate in the development process. Thank you CCP and we all know you will take the right decision for us, fan of Eve univers! Oh, this changes everything, of course, just as it would have never happened.... Each one of us who was promissed for Dust everything what YOU will have in Legion, can now deal with it and we can simply enjoy that WE stated the comments, impressions and spent time, RM and patience so that YOU will have the game we dreamt of... Can anybody please just STDMF??? Hail Caldari !! Hail to the Caldari State !!!
wiseguy12 Ancient Legion 28	Posted - 2014.05.13 00:41:00 - [366] - Quote Gaius Calinus wrote: Corp Jezus wrote: After reading several pages of irrelevant comments, i realised that people does not accept that Dust514 was not working as planned by CCP and that they are doing what is best for this "aspect" of Eve universe. From my point of view, it was a mistake from the beginning to put up this game on PS3. I am excited and thrilled about projet LEGION that seems to met all my thoughts about what it should be and how it should interract with Eve Online. CCP have my complet support on this project and i am willing to participate in the development process. Thank you CCP and we all know you will take the right decision for us, fan of Eve univers! Oh, this changes everything, of course, just as it would have never happened.... Each one of us who was promissed for Dust everything what YOU will have in Legion, can now deal with it and we can simply enjoy that WE stated the comments, impressions and spent time, RM and patience so that YOU will have the game we dreamt of... Can anybody please just STDMF??? I am torn down the middle i am on both sides and will be mad and understanding at the same. I want this game to be on the PS4, but it needs to be on the PC. *W.I.D.O.S.* when in doubt orbital strike
Mex-0 Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 9	Posted - 2014.05.14 02:58:00 - [367] - Quote My hopes for Legion: 1. Mac compatible 2. PS3 controller compatible 3. Character data carries over (SP, ISK, Assets, etc.) Caldari Scout + Combat Rifle + Cloak = Bandit. Looking for a good corp to fund proto people Weekend Warrior (a¦á_a¦á)
Fahlyn Phantom Universe Task Force Die Fremdenlegion 2	Posted - 2014.05.14 10:14:00 - [368] - Quote I have big question baybe 2 or more ^^ Will dust come 4 PS4 to or will legion come 4 PS4. Have ccp a plan to chanche to the next gen consols? The information management from CCP to the players ist so bad ;) We need informations
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 226	Posted - 2014.05.15 07:16:00 - [369] - Quote I would like to test legion
Mex-0 Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 11	Posted - 2014.05.17 03:19:00 - [370] - Quote I don't know why so many people are pissed about LEGION. Many hardcore Dusters (such as myself lol) will carry on playing dust. sure, we'll lose alot of people, and it was kind of a **** move by CCP, but most of us still enjoy dust. I'm a bandit. (a¦á_a¦á)

logan turnbull Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2014.05.17 22:50:00 - [371] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! How do ,I'm here to let you know I will not be spending more money on a computer to play Legion when I've drop 500plus dollars on a PS4 system which is where Legion really belongs, good thing you boys at CCP are tied to contract with SONY because I really like playing DUST514 and I will be on till the day you guys pull the plug, not any time soon I hope. war always profit in war
Glyd Path Nec Tributis 55	Posted - 2014.05.19 00:46:00 - [372] - Quote Corp Jezus wrote: After reading several pages of irrelevant comments, i realised that people does not accept that Dust514 was not working as planned by CCP and that they are doing what is best for this "aspect" of Eve universe. From my point of view, it was a mistake from the beginning to put up this game on PS3. dust has never worked as a first person shooter either. Just saying. Quote: I am excited and thrilled about projet LEGION that seems to met all my thoughts about what it should be and how it should interract with Eve Online. CCP have my complet support on this project and i am willing to participate in the development process. Thank you CCP and we all know you will take the right decision for us, fan of Eve univers! No problem little EVE scum. You are welcome. When legion bites the dust you can thank CCP directly. Remember all the massive problems in dust? They are the basis for your PC game! Fun. Guns that don't fire. Bullets that might or might not leave the gun. Guns that continue to shoot after you release the trigger emptying the clip and overheating the gun. Rifles that might reload, or not. Yes my pretty little EVE scum, one day all those will be yours. And nothing will be better because CCP is working on the new mechanics of the meta game not fixing the broken mechanics of their failed FPS. Why? Because they want to brute force a solution with the power of a PC. Yet this is the only UE3 FPS game that has such a consistent set of failures. It is their specialty one might think. However, once legion gets loaded up with half the expected players in a salvage run their hacked UE3 engine will fail. Just like it is failing in dust. And you will find out their commitment is just as weak for your future as it was for ours. Go stab someone in the back, like a good little EVE scum. Nobody at CCP cares because we ain't Legionnaires.
God Anpu TheImmortal HEAVY LOGISTIC OPERATIONS 85	Posted - 2014.05.19 21:48:00 - [373] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! U assholes still know that this is a dust 514 forum right and all u can do is update and bring project legion crap on here. I hope this crash and burns your entire company reputation fan base and anything else u guys touch. Dark Pyramid Order
Jaed D'jaegweir Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 14	Posted - 2014.05.19 22:46:00 - [374] - Quote yes I agree they can take that legion crap and start a new forum. "We do not live in a world of reality. We live in a world of perceptions." -Gerald Simmons
Jim Phillips SilenT AngelS RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2014.05.23 05:39:00 - [375] - Quote >Release 'Legion' Beta. >Greenlight Steam. >Replace Console fanbase in single day. >?????? >Profit. Go Legion, Go Legion, Go Legion, GO! I don't mind starting from scratch. Let me BETA plox.
Cowblaster99 Partty animals 0	Posted - 2014.05.25 23:42:00 - [376] - Quote You want us to continue paying yet you treat us like trash and Dust would have been successful if you would it have done that now you are basic starting a new project leaving another one basically unfinished it is now wonder how you stay in business. It took you guys years to complete eve and you just recently started dust only to stop it you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. To you this post in nothing but there are others that will agree with what i said in this post if I were you i would continue with Dust for a little bit longer not just work on it for a year then say oh we are done when you are far from done. People say it might have been a bad idea to start out on Ps3 but CCP you messed up. Life is boring but I am a fallen paladin so I will make my own fun.
EmmaNation Lanados Ranger Corp 8	Posted - 2014.05.27 20:20:00 - [377] - Quote Here's the question I asked on twitter @dust514 is it even worth continuing my dust character if i plan on playing legion? All my aurum (really care about)? my SP (kinda care)? The reason I started playing dust was for a couple reasons. 1 I've played eve since beta. 2 it was nice to have another use for my ps3 besides netflix, blu-rays, and maybe 1 other game. 3 when they finally announced the platform for dust, they said they wanted it to be a console game because they already had a great game for the pc I bought into the hype, bought quite a bit of aurum (used almost exclusively for skill boosters), and have a decent char sheet full of skill points. .... I will play this Project Legion, because PC is always far superior to console. Always always always. But having two different shooters in the eve universe is not something I'm going to want to keep up on, so I'll be giving up dust. They said in the keynote that they really want to be able to have some connectivity between the two games (dust/legion) or possibly a transfer, but they can't say anything about it because they don't know if it's possible or it hasn't been made a priority or something. Why should I continue to play dust? I know, for a fact, that I will never spend another dime on dust (with 1 possible exception). Will there be a way to transfer my character (and all my SP) over to Legion? Will there be a way to transfer my Aurum to any other game (Eve or Legion, I don't care which)? If both of those are answered yes, then I'll keep playing dust (and possibly even spending money on aurum) till the day I pre-purchase Legion and transfer everything over. If not, CCP you have disappointed a loyal fan in a big way. You will go from being a company that I recommend to all of my friends to try playing all their games, to being very selective and giving big disclaimers when I suggest maybe, possibly, only if you're really bored, trying their games.
Xak Arji RPM EXpress 52	Posted - 2014.06.01 11:22:00 - [378] - Quote It may just be buisness moving to the PC, instead of the PS 4. But it makes me regret investing so much time on a game under the pretense of it lasting as long as eve only on consoles. Thanks for using the community, feels pretty low. Dust had such great potential. I know I'm probably never going to play Legion, fps games belong on consoles.
Trevor K Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 40	Posted - 2014.06.01 16:00:00 - [379] - Quote I have been here since closed, closed beta. Spent $ & tons of time grinding, reporting bugs & getting my friends & family hooked on DUST. This was in very large part due to what we were told DUST would become. Now we're being told, sorry guys, we can't deliver all the stuff we promised you, so we're abandoning you to move to PC. Have fun with just another multiplayer FPS. Looks more & more like this was nothing more than a way to generate $, so CCP could go & do what they had in mind all along. Make a PC companion game to EVE Online. Why else have M/KB support on a console game? Also, how in the hell did they think they would ever be able to merge the EVE & DUST economies? They never intended to. This is BS. CCP scammed us!
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 68	Posted - 2014.06.01 21:36:00 - [380] - Quote ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ its so true.... we were dupped

TIGER SHARK1501 The Phoenix Federation Caps and Mercs 19	Posted - 2014.06.02 02:27:00 - [381] - Quote Nevyn Tazinas wrote: Hmmm... Mixed feelings about this. I'm an EVE player who came over with the CE release. Enjoyed Dust a lot. And felt it had a lot of potential. So I am disappointed to see that potential not realised. In saying that, if some form of recognition is given to Dust players in Legion, it will really help a lot. Asking for a full transfer is a joke, it will never happen, because it would alienate too many new players. 'Why start this game when people have years of free advantage'. Not to mention all the PC isk that has been farmed that would get dumped into certain peoples wallets and the piles of aurum bought BPO's that would skew any kind of market badly. However giving all Dust players Collectors edition Templar style gear, a small static boost to starting skills & isk, and other items would be a great way to recognise those players contributions to Legion. Even if Dust continues Legion will be heavily influenced by it's progress so far and those players are the ones that have helped to shape that progress. This idea is even worse by promoting the thought that there are players that have an advantage of time on their side. So what are you saying? Are you implying people aren't picking up eve because there are players that have played for years? People do pick up Madden, Cod WOW or ME3 after the game has been out for weeks to years. These players just haven't hit the game from day one. If everyone thought the way you did EVE would not be gaining additional players on top of the fact that I know dust players that picked up EVE because of this FPS.
noname warrior Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 62	Posted - 2014.06.04 12:19:00 - [382] - Quote Sez a lot without really saying anything. Project Legion...? What? Loot, immersive, environment, drones, blah, blah, blah ad nauseum. The only thing I got from this was that the more the developers eff with this game, the more they eff it up and make it less enjoyable to play. First there was Tank Spam 1.7, then there was Tank Spam Continued 1.8 and each "update" made me less and less interested in playing your game and, this should be more important to you, much less interested in spending my real world cash to buy your in game cash to play your increasingly crappy game. Keep it up. You'll kill this thing off eventually. BTW... That real world cash I mentioned? The devs who made Battlefield 4 and Killzone and Call of Duty... They're the ones who are getting it now because, unlike what you've done to continuously ruin what should be an amazing game, they've managed to keep their games fun to play.
noname warrior Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 62	Posted - 2014.06.04 12:57:00 - [383] - Quote NextDark Knight wrote: What about aimbots on PC? Did you even prepair anything for Fanfest? You used a CEO Pyrex video? He's fun to watch but some of his views on the game are crap? Directly answer Bamm Havoc's youtube questions... OMG! Youtube is not your player base!! This was one of the most half assed Keynotes ever!! NO NEWS FOR WHAT WE CAN DO NOW IN DUST.. Do we just stop playing until it comes out on PC? Seriously WTF! I've become increasingly convinced that CEO Pyrex is nothing more that a YouTube shill/enabler/apologist for CCP. He may point out small flaws in the game like glitched weapons and such but whenever CCP introduces another crap "update" (downdate would be more appropriate given 1.7-1.8) he's all thumbs up. I watch is vids and think "Really, more outrageously OP tanks, more fun..? Are you kidding me?"
Immortal John Ripper 22298	Posted - 2014.06.05 08:37:00 - [384] - Quote He is just a suck up. Ignore him. CCP would never choose me or anyone who is critical of their work to publicly corner them into giving us some real answers. So instead they get some lapdog to gain some pr. Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
General John Ripper 22397	Posted - 2014.06.05 08:37:00 - [385] - Quote He is just a suck up. Ignore him. CCP would never choose me or anyone who is critical of their work to publicly corner them into giving us some real answers. So instead they get some lapdog to gain some pr. Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
ConantheCimmerian KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 42	Posted - 2014.06.07 18:22:00 - [386] - Quote Legion better have some amazing complimentary upgrades/benefits for dust vets over people w/POST dust accounts. I for one, wont be reactivating my eve online account until some good customer service hits your console product. There are so many things to point out wrong with this. Some opinionated, some pure facts. Almpst all have alreadt been outlined. Yet still. No real acknowledgement of this issue. No compensatory act. Nada. Yet , eve the results are oppisite. I was quite pleased with the aervice. Which is all the more frustrating. Youre like a child not living up to their potential. Get it together. Please. Alt-ConanTheArmored Eve Pilot-The Black Corsair "Is it flashing Red? SHOOT IT"
Spectre-M The Generals General Tso's Alliance 513	Posted - 2014.06.09 20:50:00 - [387] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: worst company ever.... I only wish I stopped supporting you guys sooner.... hope you all lose your jobs. Wow, he called that one. Too bad they put arrogant blowhards in leadership roles. Mismanagement at its finest. It was the line employees who paid the price for stupidity.
Reaper Alim highland marines 18	Posted - 2014.06.10 17:25:00 - [388] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: We as a communty called this months ago. I for one cant wait to sink my teeth into this clearly better excuted product. Dust failed you guys got what u wanted its now dead, i shall be joining my pc brothers in a better place :-D Amen to that.
Reaper Alim highland marines 18	Posted - 2014.06.10 18:13:00 - [389] - Quote DJINN Stephani wrote: LittleCuteBunny wrote: CCP Rogue wrote: Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure GÇ£Project LegionGÇ¥ becomes the experience weGÇÖve all dreamt of. The journey continues. Conitnues... in Graveyard 514 So we get the lobby shooter and legion gets what we were promised? Pretty much unless you want to wait til CCP makes their own console system, and put the game on that. Would you buy another $400 console just to play one or two games on it? To give what CCP promised requires for the game to fully on their own server with no one over looking them telling them to wait 2 months for them to do QA for CCP to release their patches, updates, and expansions. None of which is possible with Sony.
Reaper Alim highland marines 18	Posted - 2014.06.10 18:24:00 - [390] - Quote zzZaXxx wrote: Great news! Dust has to be on the PC to be the proper sandbox we all dream of....and to overcome most of its other limitations. I just hope they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, especially boosters. We should be able to gain SP faster than new players for a while so it doesn't take forever to be as competitive as we've been here....and since we spent real money. Wait a second.... what... what you actually what to say is. " Hopefully they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, so we can we can be better armed then the newer PC players because I hate competition." That is what you meant to say. I am a firm believer that a full wipe is needed, being that Legion is going to be a independent game. No one should have a advantage day one of the game. I'd gladly give all my SP if they wiped everybody to Zero at the start. Now that is being competitive.

Mex-0 The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 18	Posted - 2014.06.11 01:36:00 - [391] - Quote Reaper Alim wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Great news! Dust has to be on the PC to be the proper sandbox we all dream of....and to overcome most of its other limitations. I just hope they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, especially boosters. We should be able to gain SP faster than new players for a while so it doesn't take forever to be as competitive as we've been here....and since we spent real money. Wait a second.... what... what you actually what to say is. " Hopefully they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, so we can we can be better armed then the newer PC players because I hate competition." That is what you meant to say. I am a firm believer that a full wipe is needed, being that Legion is going to be a independent game. No one should have a advantage day one of the game. I'd gladly give all my SP if they wiped everybody to Zero at the start. Now that is being competitive. Are you serious? You must have not invested a lot of time and money in Dust. I know that there are players who have spent money to buy AURUM, and have spent countless hours playing this game. I believe that we should be able to carry over this time and money investment into the frontline battles of Project Legion. Dedicated Caldari Scout. Slayer of militia heavy frames. Gallente born, Caldari specc'd. ISK broke. Weekend Warrior
Hector Carson Hellz Gate of Awakening 0	Posted - 2014.06.11 03:54:00 - [392] - Quote Is it going to be like EVE online, a pay to play game if so your not gonna get many players, best stick with PS3 and work with what you got, you can make it better........unless your just doing it for the money and not for the entertainment for the people. If so you just lost a player.
Hector Carson Hellz Gate of Awakening 0	Posted - 2014.06.11 03:57:00 - [393] - Quote noname warrior wrote: Sez a lot without really saying anything. Project Legion...? What? Loot, immersive, environment, drones, blah, blah, blah ad nauseum. The only thing I got from this was that the more the developers eff with this game, the more they eff it up and make it less enjoyable to play. First there was Tank Spam 1.7, then there was Tank Spam Continued 1.8 and each "update" made me less and less interested in playing your game and, this should be more important to you, much less interested in spending my real world cash to buy your in game cash to play your increasingly crappy game. Keep it up. You'll kill this thing off eventually. BTW... That real world cash I mentioned? The devs who made Battlefield 4 and Killzone and Call of Duty... They're the ones who are getting it now because, unlike what you've done to continuously ruin what should be an amazing game, they've managed to keep their games fun to play. AMEN!!!!
Justice Darling King Brothers 65	Posted - 2014.06.14 17:43:00 - [394] - Quote Mex-0 wrote: Reaper Alim wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Great news! Dust has to be on the PC to be the proper sandbox we all dream of....and to overcome most of its other limitations. I just hope they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, especially boosters. We should be able to gain SP faster than new players for a while so it doesn't take forever to be as competitive as we've been here....and since we spent real money. Wait a second.... what... what you actually what to say is. " Hopefully they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, so we can we can be better armed then the newer PC players because I hate competition." That is what you meant to say. I am a firm believer that a full wipe is needed, being that Legion is going to be a independent game. No one should have a advantage day one of the game. I'd gladly give all my SP if they wiped everybody to Zero at the start. Now that is being competitive. Are you serious? You must have not invested a lot of time and money in Dust. I know that there are players who have spent money to buy AURUM, and have spent countless hours playing this game. I believe that we should be able to carry over this time and money investment into the frontline battles of Project Legion. They have already said they are going to let us move over our SP and some equipment pending if that equipment is going to be in that game or not.
Centurion molokov Comander's Capital 3	Posted - 2014.07.08 02:54:00 - [395] - Quote How about a new project called: Lag and disconnecting issues fix Not really good for a name, but i will work
Mors The Butcher Red Star. EoN. 21	Posted - 2014.07.14 23:41:00 - [396] - Quote so due to all the tears for av getting a buff and vehicles getting nurfed and some being removed im going to go out on a limb and say legion isnt going to look any better at this rate I'M SORRY..... I'M SORRY FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOU... ....AND EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO YOU
nankura rei Expert Intervention Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.07.15 12:02:00 - [397] - Quote id love to see some information toward's the next big patch for Dust 514 and Dev's to notice that people with SDTV's are suffering "widescreen" issues and not recieving a full screen picture And "upgrade to a HDTV" is not a solution, if all my other games on my ps3 can be full screen on my SDTV, Dust 514 can to
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 576	Posted - 2014.07.15 19:39:00 - [398] - Quote nankura rei wrote: id love to see some information toward's the next big patch for Dust 514 and Dev's to notice that people with SDTV's are suffering "widescreen" issues and not recieving a full screen picture And "upgrade to a HDTV" is not a solution, if all my other games on my ps3 can be full screen on my SDTV, Dust 514 can to yes and I want digital surround sound for my record player too
Cu' Chulainn A.O.D. VP Gaming Alliance 9	Posted - 2014.07.18 23:42:00 - [399] - Quote I want to stay the path of DUST until Legion emerges...I want to move to PC when that happens. I fear that DUST will not weather the time this move happens. I fear DUST will die sooner than later as I watch the attrition rate of players... In my perception the attrition rate is at an all time high. I tried the Destiny Beta (think borderlands meets halo...another child's game with no strategy, no coms, everyone running around just shooting up **** with no real team play...awesome graphics.) last night and the whole time I wished to be playing DUST with my Corp Brothers & Sisters. There really is no other game that gives me such a sense of satisfaction after playing...camaraderie, strategy, teamwork, etc... A sense of being part of building something really cool (My character, Our Corp & the game itself). Chat channels are becoming more vacant. Recruiting is difficult due to negative banter & bitching openly (myself included) about DUST's impending death.... I FEEL FRUSTRATED WITH YOU!!!! Still dedicated.... (for now)
BIGRED 4UALL Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4	Posted - 2014.08.02 08:14:00 - [400] - Quote Kind of funny that a company like yours that has a successful game would even think about stealing and lying to a very dedicated community. I have a question for you guys at head office in ICELAND. What if I came to your country and offered this great product for free and told you that the product is not finished yet. BUT we have alot of work to do on it but bare with us. SUPPORT US. HELP US. Because we can give you all of this if you do. Then I tell you that the product is not worth it anymore and we have to give up the idea but we are going to be bringing out a new idea for something else. I think you catch my drift. NOT at all a respectful. You have ruined your reputation within the PS community and SONY for sure will never let you in after this. And of course you can tell yourselves that you got away with this one but in truth, you have stolen, lied and cheated your way to making a game for yourselves. Looks good on you. CCP. The PSN community deserve better then you. I am so glad you showed your true colors. Good luck to you. And thank GOD SONY found out what you were doing in time. GOD speed. NOW GET THE ** OFF THE PSN. You pieces of **.

Seymor Krelborn Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 2404	Posted - 2014.08.02 12:48:00 - [401] - Quote so has the refurbished dust failure been green lit yet? no? didn't think so.... ccp = bad joke. this game makes me sad....
Dalton Smithe OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 103	Posted - 2014.08.05 02:05:00 - [402] - Quote BIGRED 4UALL wrote: Kind of funny that a company like yours that has a successful game would even think about stealing and lying to a very dedicated community. I have a question for you guys at head office in ICELAND. What if I came to your country and offered this great product for free and told you that the product is not finished yet. BUT we have alot of work to do on it but bare with us. SUPPORT US. HELP US. Because we can give you all of this if you do. Then I tell you that the product is not worth it anymore and we have to give up the idea but we are going to be bringing out a new idea for something else. I think you catch my drift. NOT at all a respectful. You have ruined your reputation within the PS community and SONY for sure will never let you in after this. And of course you can tell yourselves that you got away with this one but in truth, you have stolen, lied and cheated your way to making a game for yourselves. Looks good on you. CCP. The PSN community deserve better then you. I am so glad you showed your true colors. Good luck to you. And thank GOD SONY found out what you were doing in time. GOD speed. NOW GET THE ** OFF THE PSN. You pieces of **. Somebody pissed in this kids cheerios..... They haven't given up on the idea, they are currently tweaking the game(I don't really care for most of the tweaks, but they are doing something) The AUR that has been(and is continuing to be) purchased, is still viable as a currency. Your just butthurt because they said they aren't going to be adding new content any time soon, but why roll out new content when they have so much that needs to be adjusted. All that does is create more of a work load on themselves. TL;DR -- your an idiot....nuff said....
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4186	Posted - 2014.08.09 21:57:00 - [403] - Quote Reaper Alim wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Great news! Dust has to be on the PC to be the proper sandbox we all dream of....and to overcome most of its other limitations. I just hope they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, especially boosters. We should be able to gain SP faster than new players for a while so it doesn't take forever to be as competitive as we've been here....and since we spent real money. Wait a second.... what... what you actually what to say is. " Hopefully they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, so we can we can be better armed then the newer PC players because I hate competition." That is what you meant to say. I am a firm believer that a full wipe is needed, being that Legion is going to be a independent game. No one should have a advantage day one of the game. I'd gladly give all my SP if they wiped everybody to Zero at the start. Now that is being competitive. It's a good thing that CCP understands that it is a business and not a tea party on a pink cloud in Fairy Land. I spent lots of real life cash based upon the history of CCP and the long term development of Eve. F2P isn't actually a business model, they depend on people using real life currency on something called micro transactions. The F2P part is based on the acquisition of the game. Outside of North Korea and some petro-states businesses receive money for providing services/goods, you should google Capitalism. If they don't transfer the SP to Legion things would get ugly. You'd have to be a naive, ignorant child to even remotely feel Legion should ignore the time and money spent by Dust players. Level 4 Forum Warrior Very, very bitter vet PSN: wbrom42
Cross Atu OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2644	Posted - 2014.08.09 22:12:00 - [404] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Reaper Alim wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Great news! Dust has to be on the PC to be the proper sandbox we all dream of....and to overcome most of its other limitations. I just hope they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, especially boosters. We should be able to gain SP faster than new players for a while so it doesn't take forever to be as competitive as we've been here....and since we spent real money. Wait a second.... what... what you actually what to say is. " Hopefully they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, so we can we can be better armed then the newer PC players because I hate competition." That is what you meant to say. I am a firm believer that a full wipe is needed, being that Legion is going to be a independent game. No one should have a advantage day one of the game. I'd gladly give all my SP if they wiped everybody to Zero at the start. Now that is being competitive. It's a good thing that CCP understands that it is a business and not a tea party on a pink cloud in Fairy Land. I spent lots of real life cash based upon the history of CCP and the long term development of Eve. F2P isn't actually a business model, they depend on people using real life currency on something called micro transactions. The F2P part is based on the acquisition of the game. Outside of North Korea and some petro-states businesses receive money for providing services/goods, you should google Capitalism. If they don't transfer the SP to Legion things would get ugly. You'd have to be a naive, ignorant child to even remotely feel Legion should ignore the time and money spent by Dust players. As a long time player of this game I am going to go on record again stating bluntly that if meaningful persistent assets are not transferred from Dust to Legion it would be a grave disservice to the community and the health of both games going forward. First and foremost on that list is SP. SP transferred from Dust to Legion should hold equal weight and buying power. 0.02 ISK Cross See a cool idea thread? Mail me the title and I'll take a look =)
Jin no kami Valor Coalition Red Whines. 76	Posted - 2014.08.09 22:43:00 - [405] - Quote Aren't they saying aur is the only thing transferring from dust to legion. And when I say they I mean ccp skills are being made day different suits are to right?G£êG£êG£êG£êG£ê
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1204	Posted - 2014.08.11 10:34:00 - [406] - Quote I can't wait to see what CCP can do with the PC version, maybe now we will see the "full" potential of this game. Best news for gaming i heard for long time.
BIGRED 4UALL Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 10	Posted - 2014.08.12 02:00:00 - [407] - Quote I do have to ask this question to the PS3 community cause I am still baffled by this. Why are we still supporting CCP in their endeavour in Legion? Truely. Seriously. If they really wanted to put a game on the PSN, they would have. This bullshite of the PS3 is limited and they are having a hard time programming. Give me a f__ing break. How many of us are so tired of gaming companies coming out with a game and they promise the world and they scrap it or say that we are going to work on it for a couple of months and see where it goes. I CALL B U L L S H I T. Like comment if you are tired of these companies!
Serenin Black Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.08.13 01:00:00 - [408] - Quote I would really like to know where all this rage comes from. If somebody, ANYBODY actually read what kind of game Project Legion is going to be you should very fast understand that it is nothing alike Dust 514! Project Legion is going to work with wide open landscapes, persistent worlds you can visit anytime and meet other mercs you did not expect, loads of exploration and so on. Dust is a MMOFPS with great customization in the character but all in all small battlegrounds with loads of "IN YOUR FAAAAAACE!"-moments. I can easily imagine both games having their places in the Eve Universe. Project Legion as the big game where you fight giant battles, explore planets and prepare for planetary invasion and Dust 514 as the slightly smaller game where you board ships and stations, rescure hostages, assault remote industrial complexes and so on. Also: I guess that the PS3 kinda limits what you can do with your game. You simply cannot create a game that is remotely alike to Eve online on the PS3, so they made Dust 514. Lets be honest, it is nothing alike Eve. Project Legion on the other hand aims to be an Eve online-shooter on the surface of the planets as far as I understand it. So just stop the rage already! CCP already learnt the hard way that they have to listen to their playerbase with the whole "Walking on Stations"-story (I think I'm one of the few people who was actually hyped by all the things they could've done with that, but I guess the purists are the most influencial group of Eve online).
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3848	Posted - 2014.08.13 02:37:00 - [409] - Quote Serenin Black wrote: I would really like to know where all this rage comes from. If somebody, ANYBODY actually read what kind of game Project Legion is going to be you should very fast understand that it is nothing alike Dust 514! Project Legion is going to work with wide open landscapes, persistent worlds you can visit anytime and meet other mercs you did not expect, loads of exploration and so on. Dust is a MMOFPS with great customization in the character but all in all small battlegrounds with loads of "IN YOUR FAAAAAACE!"-moments. I can easily imagine both games having their places in the Eve Universe. Project Legion as the big game where you fight giant battles, explore planets and prepare for planetary invasion and Dust 514 as the slightly smaller game where you board ships and stations, rescure hostages, assault remote industrial complexes and so on. Also: I guess that the PS3 kinda limits what you can do with your game. You simply cannot create a game that is remotely alike to Eve online on the PS3, so they made Dust 514. Lets be honest, it is nothing alike Eve. Project Legion on the other hand aims to be an Eve online-shooter on the surface of the planets as far as I understand it. So just stop the rage already! CCP already learnt the hard way that they have to listen to their playerbase with the whole "Walking on Stations"-story (I think I'm one of the few people who was actually hyped by all the things they could've done with that, but I guess the purists are the most influencial group of Eve online). Lolshill. I've got a bridge you might be interested in... (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1212	Posted - 2014.08.13 08:36:00 - [410] - Quote Serenin Black wrote: I would really like to know where all this rage comes from. If somebody, ANYBODY actually read what kind of game Project Legion is going to be you should very fast understand that it is nothing alike Dust 514! Project Legion is going to work with wide open landscapes, persistent worlds you can visit anytime and meet other mercs you did not expect, loads of exploration and so on. Dust is a MMOFPS with great customization in the character but all in all small battlegrounds with loads of "IN YOUR FAAAAAACE!"-moments. I can easily imagine both games having their places in the Eve Universe. Project Legion as the big game where you fight giant battles, explore planets and prepare for planetary invasion and Dust 514 as the slightly smaller game where you board ships and stations, rescure hostages, assault remote industrial complexes and so on. Also: I guess that the PS3 kinda limits what you can do with your game. You simply cannot create a game that is remotely alike to Eve online on the PS3, so they made Dust 514. Lets be honest, it is nothing alike Eve. Project Legion on the other hand aims to be an Eve online-shooter on the surface of the planets as far as I understand it. So just stop the rage already! CCP already learnt the hard way that they have to listen to their playerbase with the whole "Walking on Stations"-story (I think I'm one of the few people who was actually hyped by all the things they could've done with that, but I guess the purists are the most influencial group of Eve online). So... you mean how Dust 514 should been in the first place ? That is what CCP wanted, but MMO's simply don't work in Consoles...They could listened to the people screaming at them instead of wasting YEARS trying to achieve the impossible. But...still... better late than never. I actually very excited about this, i always seen the "potential" of this game.... but never the actual product.

Panther Alpha DarkWingsss 1212	Posted - 2014.08.13 08:53:00 - [411] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Reaper Alim wrote: zzZaXxx wrote: Great news! Dust has to be on the PC to be the proper sandbox we all dream of....and to overcome most of its other limitations. I just hope they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, especially boosters. We should be able to gain SP faster than new players for a while so it doesn't take forever to be as competitive as we've been here....and since we spent real money. Wait a second.... what... what you actually what to say is. " Hopefully they give us dusties some seriously awesome startup bonuses, so we can we can be better armed then the newer PC players because I hate competition." That is what you meant to say. I am a firm believer that a full wipe is needed, being that Legion is going to be a independent game. No one should have a advantage day one of the game. I'd gladly give all my SP if they wiped everybody to Zero at the start. Now that is being competitive. It's a good thing that CCP understands that it is a business and not a tea party on a pink cloud in Fairy Land. I spent lots of real life cash based upon the history of CCP and the long term development of Eve. F2P isn't actually a business model, they depend on people using real life currency on something called micro transactions. The F2P part is based on the acquisition of the game. Outside of North Korea and some petro-states businesses receive money for providing services/goods, you should google Capitalism. If they don't transfer the SP to Legion things would get ugly. You'd have to be a naive, ignorant child to even remotely feel Legion should ignore the time and money spent by Dust players. I spent lots of cash in MMO's that i don't play any more...but you don't see me going to that companies asking them to transfer my account to every single new game they do...Legion should be a "fresh" start, full stop.
Finn Colman Black Talon Company 36	Posted - 2014.08.25 18:40:00 - [412] - Quote Also, CCP said that if Legion gets greenlighted (or has it already been, I've been away for quite a while) they might consider porting it over to PS4, which a few F2P games (War Thunder, War Frame, Blacklight: Retribution) have already done. Personally I don't have a PC or Mac that would be capable of running EVE: Legion, unless it happens to be extremely well optimized. No matter how all this plays out, I look forward to the promise that CCP made with Dust, whether they rename and/or port it or not, so long as something so amazing doesn't simply become vapor-ware.
Ambiuris Zinum EL Azteca Empire Amenaza Inminente 38	Posted - 2014.08.30 14:09:00 - [413] - Quote When is legion coming out ?? My crew is asking.
Jathniel G I A N T 1164	Posted - 2014.09.23 18:58:00 - [414] - Quote All the spoiled entitled fussing on those first few pages. Good riddance CCP. Most of this remaining ps3 playerbase is too stupid to know that the ps3 can simply go no further in delivering the game that they want. Whine whine "We are such dedicated free-2-play players! We are entitled to you wasting your time on ps3!" ***** bltch moan* They can either be cheap (not purchase a PC) and stupid (expect Dust to be ps3 only), or they can get their asses together and quit living in the past. CCP has a better, more dedicated, PAYING playerbase, that has stuck with them through thick and thin. The PC playerbase. PC Playerbase = The loving wife that CCP cheated on. PS3 Playerbase = The skanky mistress that foolishly thinks she is wife material. How do you have an illicit affair against someone you had an illicit affair with? Is an adulteress entitled to anymore respect than a *****? lol Stop being cheap and invest in yourself with a good PC. Or move on to PS4, and maybe Legion will go there one day. Set your goals high, and shoot for the moon; even if you miss you'll land amongst the stars.
Finn Colman Immortal Guides 45	Posted - 2014.09.23 20:50:00 - [415] - Quote Jathniel wrote: All the spoiled entitled fussing on those first few pages. Good riddance CCP. Most of this remaining ps3 playerbase is too stupid to know that the ps3 can simply go no further in delivering the game that they want. Whine whine "We are such dedicated free-2-play players! We are entitled to you wasting your time on ps3!" ***** bltch moan* They can either be cheap (not purchase a PC) and stupid (expect Dust to be ps3 only), or they can get their asses together and quit living in the past. CCP has a better, more dedicated, PAYING playerbase, that has stuck with them through thick and thin. The PC playerbase. PC Playerbase = The loving wife that CCP cheated on. PS3 Playerbase = The skanky mistress that foolishly thinks she is wife material. How do you have an illicit affair against someone you had an illicit affair with? Is an adulteress entitled to anymore respect than a *****? lol Stop being cheap and invest in yourself with a good PC. Or move on to PS4, and maybe Legion will go there one day. I'm hoping that Legion goes on PS4 at some point, I was really glad when War Thunder did so (my computer is so slow that I literally was unable to fly in a straight line). They can go and put it on PC first, and I'll be able to deal with it and wait, either until I get a good PC or they offer it on PS4 (whichever comes first). The little Min with the little voice.


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