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Goric Rumis
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:11:00 -
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Necessary step. Terribly managed.
Seriously, this is a textbook case of mismanaging both expectations and reaction. As soon as you knew this was going to be the future the DUST development team was going to work on, you should have hired a consultant to help you manage the transition with players. And if you did hire a consultant, you should fire him/her immediately.
At least 50% of the reaction you're getting didn't need to happen if you'd just managed expectations, had an up-front and honest "what does this mean for DUST" section in the keynote, and prepared responses to the really obvious questions people were going to have. By ignoring the inevitable response and hyping the keynote like you were going to be rolling out huge changes to the PS3 tomorrow, you brought on just about the worst possible reaction.
And please stop using the phrase "laser focused." It's irritating business jargon that means nothing. No one should use that term ever, and I mean "no one" and "ever." Well, I guess outside of talking about an actual laser.
What Is Tiericide and Why?
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Mima Sebiestor
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
0
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:19:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Once Legion ships the PS3 is going to be unplugged.
I'll keep playing on my PS3 until it dies or requires PS Plus; it's a great platform. However, comma, pause for effect, the real problem might just be... More Money for the Corp (CEO). Everything in moderation. May CCP side with a PC, forever. Boycott Windows today!!!
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BDiD
HEAVY LOGISTIC OPERATIONS
1
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:22:00 -
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Good, kb/m is meant for pc. Only reason they put on dust is to appease EVE players who might come over. Kb/m User? GOODBYEEE! |
Gaius Calinus
Incarnation Soldiers Die Fremdenlegion
3
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:28:00 -
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Honestly CCP, bitches are not for free You f****d the Dust community almost 2 years long...
Now where's the $ we earned as tester? Or at least the bucks we spent on this s***?? Not even somethin' like "we're sorry to... blah-bla-whatever"?
GFYSABIH!!!
Hail Caldari !!
Hail to the Caldari State !!!
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Omareth Nasadra
The New Age Outlaws Proficiency V.
339
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:39:00 -
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how could you lure dut player to attend to fan fest, scam our RL money with your BS events and boosters sale?
HOW ABOUT YOU GO FACK YOURSELVE IN THE ARSE CCP!!!!!! FU
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
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DJINN Punisher
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
187
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:54:00 -
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Long time no see guys and gals, wonGÇÖt start this off by saying told you so cause that would be wrong. ItGÇÖs a shame that dust died, (RIP Dust) the concept was amazing, the plan terrific, the possibilities vast, but the execution was horrid. The community liaisons have always been a joke, and with ccp relying on their out of touch player lackeys it was just a matter of time. Most of you on console wonGÇÖt follow into the PC realm understandably so, and unless CCP makes major changes it will end up the same way on PC. Hopefully you will be keeping in contact with the friends you made and cherishing the good times, I mean we all had a few. Just be grateful you didn't back stab any friends or lose friendships over this nonsense. (No love lost for my rabid dog) I look forward to meeting up with you all again who knows when our DESTINIES will become intertwined. Just to feed the trollsGǪ X box one hands down smashes the PS4 =)
Yours truly the first DJINNGǪ
P.S. I opened the site to everyone so you donGÇÖt need to be Hellstorm to chill with us.
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Deamonwrath21 DeathReign
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:55:00 -
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you guys let me down very bad today and im a console player, i bought a ps4 wishing project legion on ps4 and i put my heart and soul into dust 514, i love it, i had high hopes for ps4 version and most of the apocalypse 3 had quit which i was a director in today due to your poor execution of appeal, console is far more popular. if you ccp dont announce for ps4 soon or at e3, or put within a year of the release date, you will loose all of your precious fans to the epicness of planetside 2 on PC AND KEY WORD AND SYSTEM A FIN PLAYSTATION 4 |
Zhenya Serafina
Science For Death Final Resolution.
10
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Posted - 2014.05.02 23:56:00 -
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okay.
Well I would say it is ragingly obvious that you do not care about your community based on the direct comment by your executive producer stating that no PVE or Player Trading will eventuate in DUST and that your half-arse development team is focusing on a PC game that is now somewhat a better fit for your EVE link (no **** - its a PC game also).
However - The way this has been handled and addressed, is well. Amazing. - I literally cannot stop laughing.
Your DUST (or Legion whatever - same pooled budget I'm sure) subsidiary are a bunch of complete incompetent non-professionals - Did it occur to you that you are running a real life business and not in the game itself? You just f...... over your entire community with out answering any questions - and with the ever moving landscape without instant mitigation - your silence will lead to an even sooner end which maybe what you wish for...
As a EVE player of countless years, and a DUST player from the outset, this game was cool to me, and it was a good fit for what I wanted out of a ps3 game, with the hope of being linked to the only game I play (EVE).
You'll create your new fantastic legion game, but don't spend too much of your budget on the match making system, because mud sticks and any game needs a loyal player base... and up until a few hours ago. You had a loyal player base (small) - but loyal.
I'm not shocked you are making a PC game it has been on the cards ever since DUST was released (as a apparent full game), and what makes your now defunct player base loyal was all the crap they put up with.
What I am shocked about is how you have gone about it. I feel so sorry for those at FANFEST, if I was a DUST EXEC I would not be out on the town on the pub crawl - it will get nasty.
Lastly, for all the cool people that I have played with and met - thanks for giving me a good time and f... you CCP SHANGHAI.
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SAU xD
MEN IN BLACK OPS Red Whines.
19
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:16:00 -
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Awful, just awful
Canal de MIB en Youtube y google+
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Adan Montano Pietsch
Ahrendee Frontlinez
1
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:35:00 -
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Wow that's all i can simply say, i mean im no pc gamer but i did my research on eve, got into the backstories, complexity etc etc. i get dust and i loved the fact that this was a corp vs corp struggle for land and commodities with an even more complex economy (still not implemented into dust) and i was looking forward to the full integration with eve and its economy.. i mean think about it the idea that your a fricking immortal merc being hired by cartels, governments, businesses and npc/player corps to fight for planets and being able to become one of those rich corp guys yourself is just AWESOME to me, but now... NOWWWW I JUST FEEL COMPLETELY BUT F***ED BY AN EBBC( E= extremely) TO THE POINT WERE I HAVE BROCKEN EVERYTHING FROM THE WAIST DOWN.... THIS IS JUST COMPLETE BULL F***ING SH$T, HOW CAN YOU RUN A DAMM GAMING COMPANY WITH THESE TYPE OF IDEALS OF KILLING YOUR PLAYER BASE, MANN DO I FEEL LIKE A PIECE OF **** MATERIAL
HMG FTW!!!!!!!
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KatanaPT
Tech Guard RISE of LEGION
744
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:45:00 -
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Joey-Number1 wrote:KatanaPT wrote:So we were oficially the beta testers for a PC game, great...
This explains why it took 4 months for 1.8 to come, and to add insult to injury it came broken with ridiculous bugs, unexplainable absence of quality control and still being fixed.
You insulted your player base and the PS3 community who still loved this game. They did not, all this is going to be part of a PC dust, but much more clear and refined of what it actually should have always been. All what you ever wanted it to be, it would never even came close to it on PS3 or PS4, there would be more and more limitations and less freedom. All the money spent on dust is not going anywhere, it is all going into development of dust as a whole on PC and the real future of Dust, into much bigger and so much better future of what we always thinked of, it can become anything we want. Yea all of you are enraged so much you don't think clearly anymore.. its so easy to understand...
dude, just stfu. Ever heard of false advirtising? False promises? I spent real money on this game, for ages i was a avid supporter of CCP, even after some bad moves on their part, i believed in their vision, in their trailers (remember the ones with drones? And hints of a epic space opera at your fingers?) but enough is enough. Send some of your money overhere or buy me a PC. Actually buy me 2 PCs because i have 2 PS3 i bought for this game alone. Have you even spent aurum? I did. And i feel ashamed i did and helped support this game.
Tech Guard Recruiting Video
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Spartan MK420
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
268
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Posted - 2014.05.03 00:54:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:
Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread.
F*ck You, and the horse you rode in on.
Official Unofficial D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N team mascot.
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Heathen Bastard
The Bastard Brigade
1372
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Posted - 2014.05.03 01:23:00 -
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So basically:
Project legion is everything we've been shown, told is coming, and assured is eventually going to happen with dust.
Dust is a giant, flaming middle finger to anyone who believed in you.
Nice bait and switch.
If you hear the words "WORTH IT!" look about, something hilarious just happened.
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Stephiano Daphiti
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
18
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Posted - 2014.05.03 01:34:00 -
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As someone on Reddit put it,
"I didn't pay money so I could improve a character that I won't use. I want to play Legion, but did I just spend 16 months and over -ú100 on something that I wont be playing after Legion comes out? "
Also a huge **** you for giving Legion and only Legion everything you promised Dust. |
KalOfTheRathi
Nec Tributis
1292
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Posted - 2014.05.03 01:41:00 -
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Try reading this. It will make many things clear to Mercs.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/05/02/project-legion-announced-a-first-person-shooter-set-in-the-eve-universe/
A couple of bits in the article talk about the graphics and the pretty EVE style art assets. The descriptions which are some of the busy work that has been slowly infecting Dust while offering absolutely nothing to making it a better game.
Quote: The demo was pretty sparse. Although there were a group of developers on the stage, they never really interacted with each other. You can tell Legion is very early in development, and this was a brief taster more than anything else. I didnGÇÖt get a feel for the combat, or how the team mechanics will work, but it looks pretty enough. It has that stylish, understated EVE art design, and some nice lighting.
So, we have developers on stage, not fighting, not interacting, in the lava backdrop we get today (like it or not) and they have OMG Added glowing lava fields. No meaningful in-game footage so the author has no idea where CCP/Shanghai is going with this.
Well we know where they are going! Around in circles, futzing with art, forgetting what a FPS is because they are just now writing their Second one while leaving the first one laying face down in the Dust. Bug riddled, ignored and left to rot in New Eden. Which had me upset I must admit. Until I realized that even with them focusing on Legion their ability to make a better game will not improve.
Their competence has never been questioned. Personally, I have Never Even Considered the possibility.
I hope the Pod Peeps get what they deserve. Another series of lies, missed chances and a shiv in their back.
And so it goes.
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JONAHBENHUR
home of the forgotten
30
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Posted - 2014.05.03 01:47:00 -
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does it say that dust 514 is shutting down ?? |
IgniteableAura
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
990
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Posted - 2014.05.03 02:01:00 -
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I suggest no one sign in for this "origin" event....
After all its the only way we can fight back.
Begin the summer of rage
Youtube
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JONAHBENHUR
home of the forgotten
30
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Posted - 2014.05.03 02:14:00 -
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[quote=KalOfTheRathi]Try reading this. It will make many things clear to Mercs.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2014/05/02/project-legion-announced-a-first-person-shooter-set-in-the-eve-universe/
thanks to KAl it looks like this new game is everything they promised dust514 would be but without the dvertisments to purchase in game items it seems kinda wrong to have had players shell out hundreds of dollars on thefaiththat someday then just making a different game though
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1405
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Posted - 2014.05.03 02:20:00 -
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DJINN Punisher wrote:Long time no see guys and gals, wonGÇÖt start this off by saying told you so cause that would be wrong. ItGÇÖs a shame that dust died, (RIP Dust) the concept was amazing, the plan terrific, the possibilities vast, but the execution was horrid. The community liaisons have always been a joke, and with ccp relying on their out of touch player lackeys it was just a matter of time. Most of you on console wonGÇÖt follow into the PC realm understandably so, and unless CCP makes major changes it will end up the same way on PC. Hopefully you will be keeping in contact with the friends you made and cherishing the good times, I mean we all had a few. Just be grateful you didn't back stab any friends or lose friendships over this nonsense. (No love lost for my rabid dog) I look forward to meeting up with you all again who knows when our DESTINIES will become intertwined. Just to feed the trollsGǪ X box one hands down smashes the PS4 =)
Yours truly the first DJINNGǪ
P.S. I opened the site to everyone so you donGÇÖt need to be Hellstorm to chill with us.
It was good playing with/against you guys. Hope to play with you in PS2 on ps4 some day. o7
MAG ~ Raven
I GÖú puppies.
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Croned
Gallente Federation
647
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Posted - 2014.05.03 02:31:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:If you guys stop freaking out more sand in the sandbox is likely aimed at Dust514 :-D Yeah, they're bringing more sand in so they can fill Dust's grave.
Son of a plasma cannon!
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Zylahra StormRazor
Yada Industries
20
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:39:00 -
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And now they know WHY hiring a dude from EA... is EPIC STUPID!!! |
JIMvc2
UNREAL WARRIORS
123
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Posted - 2014.05.03 03:43:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:LittleCuteBunny wrote:Legion will melt PS4s Legion will just be more crap on another platform. They can barely hold Eve Online together. BuIlding a reasonable functioning FPS is beyond CCP's abilities. Legion will melt your pathetic face. COME AT ME BRO!!!
If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
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Colonel Born
HDYLTA Defiant Legacy
4
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Posted - 2014.05.03 04:24:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest!
Hey guys,
Long time player of EvE here who has experienced this whole journey from Mordu's Private Trials. Let me just say that I went into this Fanfest with some really big hopes for future features for Dust 514. I am going to describe myself as a bit of a faithful who has defended Dust's less than stellar first year to a number of people who saw the writing on the wall before I did. I thought I would be happy to see Dust coming to the PC (and let me just state, I do think that this is the best chance for the game to have a future), however, this was one of the worst handled announcements from a company I have ever seen, and a slap in the face to their entire player base.
I think all the reasons why have been adequately covered by the other posts here, but the fact that I just forked out $20 for a live stream (I can't imagine what those who traveled to Iceland must be feeling) to be told that the game I've spent more money on in a year than an EvE account "and we thank you for that" is a thing of the past with Legion being the future. Nothing on what to expect for the current PS3 players, which I want to reinforce again, IS YOUR ONLY PLAYER BASE ATM!!! You invite them to Fanfest (or charge them 20 to watch the live stream) to tell them that they were basically a cash farm to fund the development of a game it looks like they were always intending on making on another platform, and that if you don't have the hardware to upgrade, you're SOL in terms of experiencing the vision CCP initially promised you. What they SOLD you.
I'm not here to call anyone specific out. I am here to express my dissatisfaction as your customer and a consumer of your products. For a company that relies so much on a loyal consumer base for its existence; who clearly does care about its player base in so many aspects, this is appalling. I have no idea how this fanfest schedule was allowed to proceed as it did. No one expected the PS3 version of this game to last forever, but how you've treated your current player base is nothing short of dishonorable.
You should be ashamed of yourselves. |
Omareth Nasadra
The New Age Outlaws Proficiency V.
346
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:16:00 -
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Colonel Born wrote:CCP Frame wrote:Hello everyone, Now that the keynote is over, here is the Dev Blog from our Executive Producer - CCP Rouge where he is introducing you all to the Project Legion. We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today! Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread. Additionally, make sure to tune into more coverage over at http://www.twitch.tv/ccp for the rest of Fanfest! Hey guys, Long time player of EvE here who has experienced this whole journey from Mordu's Private Trials. Let me just say that I went into this Fanfest with some really big hopes for future features for Dust 514. I am going to describe myself as a bit of a faithful who has defended Dust's less than stellar first year to a number of people who saw the writing on the wall before I did. I thought I would be happy to see Dust coming to the PC (and let me just state, I do think that this is the best chance for the game to have a future), however, this was one of the worst handled announcements from a company I have ever seen, and a slap in the face to their entire player base. I think all the reasons why have been adequately covered by the other posts here, but the fact that I just forked out $20 for a live stream (I can't imagine what those who traveled to Iceland must be feeling) to be told that the game I've spent more money on in a year than an EvE account "and we thank you for that" is a thing of the past with Legion being the future is what primarily motivated me to make this post. Nothing on what to expect for the current PS3 players, which I want to reinforce again, IS YOUR ONLY PLAYER BASE ATM!!! You invite players to Fanfest (or charge them 20 to watch the live stream) to tell them that they were basically a cash farm to fund the development of a game it looks like you were always intending on making on another platform, and that if we don't have the hardware to upgrade, we're SOL in terms of experiencing the vision CCP initially promised us. What you SOLD us. I'm not here to call anyone specific out. I am here to express my dissatisfaction as your customer and a consumer of your products. For a company that relies so much on a loyal consumer base for its existence; who clearly does care about its player base in so many aspects, this is appalling. I have no idea how this fanfest schedule was allowed to proceed as it did. No one expected the PS3 version of this game to last forever, but how you've treated your current player base is nothing short of dishonorable. You should be ashamed of yourselves. i've reported your post sayin i'm 100% with you on this post, of course i've added a personnal FU ccp on my behalf, hope this doesn't cause you any trouble
Minmatar, In rust we trust!!!
Omareth Nasadra/Erynyes
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Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1659
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:33:00 -
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CCP Frame wrote:...We hope you liked all the things that we revealed today!
Oh bro...
"Victory is reserved for those who are willing to pay it's price."
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killian178
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
16
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Posted - 2014.05.03 05:42:00 -
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LittleCuteBunny wrote:Legion will melt PS4s Then there will be no one with enough cash to afford the kind of gaming rig you'd need to run it? Let's be honest, dust could have been something great, if say CCP Shanghai wasn't even involved, or there was more content and a more realized vision for it before closed beta began, the game would be ALOT farther along than it is now. |
Proto'G
Solar Valley Fleet
0
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Posted - 2014.05.03 06:02:00 -
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Man, I was really pulling for you you ccp. I've been with Eve since 2007, and dust from the beginning...but this, this just hurts! It may all be worth it only if the time and money I've invested into Dust transfers into Project Legion, but I don't have much faith.
Seems to me an official letter to your player base is due, CCP, with an apology and and some affirmations that what we've invested wasn't a total waste...if you still have that in you.
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killian178
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
16
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Posted - 2014.05.03 06:04:00 -
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Joey-Number1 wrote:Some console players are so enraged that they don't think clearly anymore, when did they ever do tho. Players from consoles do not realize what EVE Universe is about, they have no idea of it's complexity, deep backstory and scale. It would never reach these states on PS3 or PS4. SOME maybe, but still, does this not leave a bad taste in your mouth? CCP could have done a much better job. I wanted eve complexity etc for dust, it just feels like I've wasted ALOT of time effort and money on a test for legion. Wether or not that's the case, kinda just feels like an a-hole move, and I've been playing eve for years. Thinking of deleting my accounts and taking a shower. |
Chimichanga66605
Myrmidon Syndicate
97
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Posted - 2014.05.03 06:20:00 -
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Spartan MK420 wrote:CCP Frame wrote:
Let us know your keynote impressions in this thread.
F*ck You, and the LAV you rode in on.
fixed. Your welcome, o7
I was a Medic, Assault, Commando specialist. I ran a Scout & Sentinel for fun.
I was a Minmatar Loyalist.
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DJINN Jecture
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
149
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Posted - 2014.05.03 06:31:00 -
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DJINN Stephani wrote:NextDark Knight wrote:Levithunder wrote:Ohh yeah and one last thing, showing me a tree and clocking past a tank with good graphics dosent impress me.
Well the tree kinda does BUT ONLY IF IT'S A PS3 TREE! The tree comment was to Bamm Havoc.. This just shows that he pays more attention to youtubers then the actual community. The tree thing has been around for a while. I don't think it started with Bamm Yes it did... he pioneered that request back when skirmish was close to 1.0.
I am disgusted that there are no answers to a community that has been involved from day one. You like us, we are the best community? That sounded more like you are praising our patience than wanting to keep the majority of the players. The move to PC would have been fine with cross platform interaction but the reality of the matter is that you stopped caring several months back, you should have told us something more now that you have had months to prepare for fanfest.
No wonder CCP Rogue never says anything about anything. He doesn't have anything to say to the players he knows he will alienate with whatever he has to say. I have several years of time, as do many others, invested in this game as well as a good deal of money. I sure hope you deliver something to the players that stops the flow of blood from the wounds you have caused today. I like Dust and have always wanted it to succeed but this seems like a pretty bad way to announce to the public that their game is not going to be supported on a platform chosen for its longevity.
Character transfers (ISK, SP, Assets) need to be transferred to the PC version to give any of the people I have talked with a desire to continue playing. As for porting it, the characters are all stored on TQ, it is your code, transfer it. Don't talk your way around in circles saying we don't know if its possible we don't want to leave anyone behind. It is a plain fact some if not most will be left behind.
Do yourselves a favor and actually respond to your community, you know the ones that put money into your accounts so the lights keep working, please.
Agent For Hire
Come at me Bro!
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