Could all of you calm the hell down seriously...you are all acting like spoiled children, first of all CCP doesn't owe anyone anything it is their game it is in beta they have no obligation to keep this game running if they see a better way, second of all and i cant stress this enough DUST IS NOT ENDING watch all of fanfest go to youtube watch the progression and the sandbox before you make an opinion. Christ sake its like all of you are trying to find something to yell about because you are bored

Honestly bro you're a fu*king ignorant piece of sh*t, stop f*king acting like a b*tchy fanboy because you're a pc @ss f*cker, maybe if you werent so ret@rded you would realize that if they could do this to their console fanbase they'll do it to any of their fanbases, that is not how gaming companies are suppost to work, hell they're not even a damm gaming company to me anymore they're just a bunch of f*cking scam artist looking for a quick buck, so get you're f*cking head out of youre @ss... that is all thank you, im out

on a side note: they could put all of dust514 players sp into our legion characters by turning it from earned SP, back into bonus sp. We would still have to earn it all back, but it would be collectively available :P. As long as the cap remains the same % and If the sp gathering system is remotely the same I could start all over this way.

This is specifically the thing that needs to change.

Moving forward we should provide feedback and ideas for the whole game, the Dust-Legion project not just one of them.
A key element of that is to make sure that the transition from Dust to Legion is NOT a full wipe and reset.

Assets are one thing, those will change, ISK can be earned again (even if that's not ideal).
Here however are some sticking points; BPOs - These were payed for in IRL cash and meant to last (as per the advertisements for them) these items were also included as part of the recent 'EVE Collectors Edition' so stripping them out of Legion, thus stripping them of their value cuts a hunk out of the collectors edition value which was a very recent and promoted sale. That's bad PR and damages player trust.

Further SP, the idea that there will be no skill system in Legion, and no migration of all the hours of time we've invested into Dust is a serious breach of trust. Not only is a game without a skill system bad for New Eden and sandbox play but gutting the value of all those play hours invested is a serious breach of trust and will cause (rightfully) very hostile responses in the eyes of the community. Too many times has the history of EVE, and the longevity therein, been trotted out during the beta and launch of Dust 514, the connection presented by CCP has been repeated and obvious "We don't abandon our games, we support and develop them for the long haul." that's fine so long as Legion really does support a true migration for Dust players. If however the actual SP and BPO assets (and honestly at least some of the ISK) is all wiped leaving only a character name then there is no persistent ace , no long term support and frankly no more real trust.

I am not the longest running EVE:O player by any means but I run 4 accounts there off and on with at least one always active for years. CCP has stated New Eden is linked and universal, as a sandbox not as separate games. I won't be evaluating my continued or future purchase of CCP products/subscriptions based on a game by game filter, I will be looking at the whole company and how they've conducted themselves on balance with regards to quality of products delivered and promises kept. The key element of that is maintaining player trust through transparency and trust. "Adapt or die." is fine, it's actually fun but only when our choices are allowed to remain meaningful and how CCP handles the migration of substantive non-consumable assets from Dust to Legion will absolutely have a key impact on that evaluation.

I know for a certainty from speaking with other players (a number of whom, like myself are both EVE:O and Dust 514 players) that I am not the only one who hold this stance.

CCP, you have stated that a part of the reason for cross platform gaming was to open New Eden up to new individuals within gaming, if the migration (and information about it) from D514 to Legion is mishandled that goal could not only fall flat but result in an on balance negative effect. I'm a single voice in the community, but it seems to me that's exactly where you do not want to be when pushing towards the launch of new projects such as Legion and Valkyrie.

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Scream louder for me ho!!!!!!! xx

A ho really... is that what you call dudes online since you cant get any in real life

Adding further insult to injury... For those who haven't seen the "EVE: Online - The Prophecy" (Fanfest 2014 Trailer) you really should.

Much like the Dust promo showing a massive battle involving drones (yea there where supposed to be drones) You see a slick CGI video where Capsuleers, Valkarye Pilots, and Dust Mercs working in tandem. Even having Mercs invading some ship or structure with combat in corridors. I can't even count how many times that was suggested both in Eve's forums as well as DUST514's.

Maybe the Merc's in the promo are Legion, really funny they look like the DUST dropsuits to me...

On a side note, those proclaiming like new age messiahs that it would be better on a PC are ignorant, a well written FPS will play better on a console due to the specialized hardware than on a PC which is so varied. Consoles also make cheating harder (not impossible, but more difficult)

they actually talked about that for 2014 last year at fanfest. it was called 'penetration mode'.

On a side note, those proclaiming like new age messiahs that it would be better on a PC are ignorant, a well written FPS will play better on a console due to the specialized hardware than on a PC which is so varied. Consoles also make cheating harder (not impossible, but more difficult)

I still don't get why you couldn't go to PS4? Also as of note, if you go to PC I also will be leaving. Sorry, I can justify buying a console every 6 years but I can't upgrade my computer every two years.

Loved Dust, back to COD, GoW, and HALO for me.

Dust/Legion is not just an FPS though.
And the PC architecture gives them better control over the non FPS parts of the game as well as the interaction between it & other EVE Universe games.

KB/M also allows a much better C&C type environments for Squad & company leaders to utilise in RTS type interfaces

So there is a reasonable argument for the shift to PC based purely on capabilities.
There are also counter arguments to keep it on console undoubtedly, but it's down to CCP's weighing of those arguments and they have made a call.

With regards to people who refuse to switch, well, tough luck. Being a 'console die-hard' is your issue, not CCP's. A lot of PC players switched to Console just for Dust.

if you announce this for PS4 im happy, but just PC. great way to kill your console player base. im moving to Destiny then, and back to dark souls 2.


Round of applause to CCP. for killing there community. I take my hat of to you. its impressive you can actually **** off all of us dust bunnies at the same time. or should I say DUST guinea pigs ?

Dust/Legion is not just an FPS though.
And the PC architecture gives them better control over the non FPS parts of the game as well as the interaction between it & other EVE Universe games.

KB/M also allows a much better C&C type environments for Squad & company leaders to utilise in RTS type interfaces

So there is a reasonable argument for the shift to PC based purely on capabilities.
There are also counter arguments to keep it on console undoubtedly, but it's down to CCP's weighing of those arguments and they have made a call.

With regards to people who refuse to switch, well, tough luck. Being a 'console die-hard' is your issue, not CCP's. A lot of PC players switched to Console just for Dust.

I hope you can play it using a ps3 controller connected to Mac/PC. I can't aim at anything with a keyboard/mouse combo.

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