Feedback: the font on those charts... The 6s look like 8s.
Also, Combat Rifles look like they don't use much resources, even at prototype.

The nerf of av nade is the re arise of murder taxi I guarantee it.... this is fukin bs

CCP Has and is Presently Showing There None Concern About Adding Any New Weapons And Or Content To Heavy Class Dropsuits .

The HMG's Are Already Weak The Shield and Armor Are Outdated The Forge Gun Takes Forever To Charge We Are Slow As Fu.ck In Turning AND NOW THESE "SKAMPS" HAVE MORE WEAPONS TO TAKE US HEAVY'S OUT WITH ...!


Come On CCP Throw Us Heavys A New Fuc.king Weapon Like a Giant Laser Thing Or a Giant Rocket Launcher Grenade Launcher We Just Have TWO 2 Deuce Heavy Weapons To Choose From Dammit !

Because you shouldn't go after a tank by yourself?

Can we get a projectile speed buff on Swarm Launchers?
HAVs outrunning Swarm missiles, regularly, is getting a bit ridiculous.

Can we get a projectile speed buff on Swarm Launchers?
HAVs outrunning Swarm missiles, regularly, is getting a bit ridiculous.

while I quite agree you should not go after tanks yourself, with the short lock-on range there will be many times when you can't go after a tank in the red line with swarms at all.

To me that means forge and other tanks will be the only counter. And we do not know what the forge will look like after the rebalance. If the tanks' long range weapons don't do much splash damage -- ie anti-infantry -- then that might not be a problem. They would not interfere with the ground fight when they are far away.

With regard to drop ships and tanks close-in I would offset the swarm's lock-on range and damage reduction with a shorter lock-on time. The argument being that when vehicles are in the thick of it infantry will need to gang-up on them but the ground troops are at much greater risk from the new blaster balance. They need a little extra help to bring their exposure to the vehicle in line. While that would put the vehicle at some greater risk it also would increase the need for the vehicle to have ground support of it's own.

Nice. So now advanced and proto tanks can stomp harder. Brilliant move.

Just when you think CCP are getting things right.

At least assault is getting more weapons to kill us heavies with.

Lets see if they ruin the forge gun like they ruined the HMG.

Nice. So now advanced and proto tanks can stomp harder. Brilliant move.

Just when you think CCP are getting things right.

At least assault is getting more weapons to kill us heavies with.

Lets see if they ruin the forge gun like they ruined the HMG.

Except this won't be the case. I have to emphasize the following here :

HP, Burst Tanking, and Decreased Effectiveness of Infantry Slaying Turrets
1. Tanks have lower HP than they did before
2. There's far more reliance on active modules in order to "tank" any sort of significant damage
3. Finite Ammo means Tanks have to take their focus away from infantry slaying at multiple points in order to resupply

AV will still be fulfilling its role by creating areas where the Tank can't effectively pass without taking significant damage, you don't need to kill the Tank in order to ensure that its effectiveness in the match is decreased. More so than that, and I mentioned this in my last post, but balancing AV with respect to ONLY tanks creates the situation that we have now in which Tanks are the only vehicle worth calling out in the middle of a match. I think we can both agree that Dropships are far too fragile in their current state and the LAV class of vehicles is near useless outside of Militia/BPO for transport and the Logistics class for exploiting its insane base resistances.

In order to incentivize the use of AV against vehicles though I think it'd be nice to see the return of WP awarded for doing a sufficient amount of damage to Tanks. If dedicated AV won't be getting the majority of their points from killing tanks then I think it'd be nice if they got rewarded for doing enough to deter them.

Nice. So now advanced and proto tanks can stomp harder. Brilliant move.

Just when you think CCP are getting things right.

At least assault is getting more weapons to kill us heavies with.

Lets see if they ruin the forge gun like they ruined the HMG.

Nice. So now advanced and proto tanks can stomp harder. Brilliant move.

Just when you think CCP are getting things right.

My guess is that its hipfire isn't too great, or the aiming speed while ADS suffer greatly. A combination of both seems likely as well.

This seems the most plausible prediction to me, and also unscoped rotation rate may suffer a bit too.

Looking at the apparently soft stats of the combat rifles i'd expect them to be on the top of the hipfire/rotation rate heap.

Ofc there will be balancing passes, but given what we're being presented with here it's looking like the racial weapon profiles will be sufficiently distinct that they all have their own 'personalities' and domains, and that there are multiple interesting factors to balance for situational weapon selection.

It's what wasn't in Wolfman's tables that will make the difference here.

Lastly, o7 Wolfman. The opportunity for analysis and feedback is appreciated.

Nice stuff there.
I don't know if it has been asked already, but is there going to be a racial skill change for drop suits too? Are Combat Rifle and Rail rifle going to have a sharpshooter skill?

This is going to get lost here on the 13th page, but whatever:

Don't change two stats at once. You have no idea which stat change had the desired impact. Keep everything constant, and change only one stat.

So, for swarms... either change the range and keep damage, or drop damage and keep range.

Or, even better:

Two swarm variants: One with current damage and shorter range
One with reduced damage and current range

That way you can play test both stat changes, and KNOW which stat change had the desired effect.

Given that the Breach Assault Rifle has increased hip fire accuracy, I'd say it's a stretch to assume that the Rail Rifle, being based on the Breach AR, is going to have reduced hip fire accuracy.

Edit: I'd also like to mention that if we are provided with some videos showing how the weapons operate we can avoid the necessity of a balance pass early on and help CCP get it right the first time instead of having to waste resources/time going back to fix a screw up that could have been avoided. Unlikely though as this is what the CPM is apparently having problems getting CCP to understand in the first place.

Hmm proto Rail rifle 42 Rounds, 81 something damage, full auto ? Sounds like the upgrade to a scrambler rifle seizing up at round 23, rail rifle no problem just keep slugging.

Unless the recoil is going to be horrible on that thing?

Edit: Most suits will be 2-3 shot with the average Proto being 4 shot, even my suit will be a 5 shot (0.6 seconds) and then youll have enough rounds lef for another 8 suits...

sounds to me like the New Tac Fotm

Nice stuff there.
I don't know if it has been asked already, but is there going to be a racial skill change for drop suits too? Are Combat Rifle and Rail rifle going to have a sharpshooter skill?

I thought the rail rifles were going to be semi-automatic, a replacement of the TAR?

-XOXO

One thing you guys should be aware of is that the Rail Rifle (all variants) have a 0.2 second charge time before they start firing at full auto (so it goes charge -> fire -> fire, not charge -> fire -> charge -> fire)