What game are you playing, me and a squad mate destroy any tank in about 5 seconds, or are you stating from a swarm only view minus tactics and av grenades.

current proto swarms take down current ARMOR tanks in ~12-15s

with announced nerfed proto swarms it will take ~23s to 30s of shooting to take down announced ARMOR tank

and this is assuming an unrealistic combat scenario, in reality it takes longer.

wow you are a hero because you can take down low sp tank driven by noobs with no support with proto weapons fast... congratulations for another pointless post.

So tanker role=massacring everything in sight. AV role=temporary inconvenience to the metal killing machine. Yep, that sounds balanced

I'm glad we're in agreement, AV can no longer easy mode a tank with 2 AV grenades and a clip of swarms and we're less effective overall at killing you.

And isnt the damage nerf 110 less per swarm? so marginal when twio people are taking out a tank, then add av nades and the fact Maddy's will have the same slots as somas, is it not easy enough already?

So you are incapable of debate, OK I get the picture now, no these are high end tanks, seriously you can't even debate or answer questions from someone who disagrees with you, just be quiet.

I know right, as if the fact the guns aren't even out yet doesn't make the QQ pointless enough already, its bad QQ set in open flat plains.

wow you are a hero because you can take down low sp tank driven by bad driver with no support with proto weapons fast... congratulations for another pointless post.

you win the price for the most pointless posts done in a day.

no sane tank driver rushes his tank into a position where he can get mauled by several people with AV nades + AV weaponry.

and this is your problem, all your posts indicate that you are one of those scrubs that do not know how to drive a tank and then whine that they get killed by several people at once.


you just dont know how to use a tank and all your posts are filled with misinformation. there is nothing to debate.

I just checked your in game stats, your a complete noob, no wonder you disagree with me, I thought you was a dust uni teacher , seriously less than 3000 kills, just be quiet seriously, you don't even have enough experience to know what your on about. I should have known.

no sane tank driver rushes his tank into a position where he can get mauled by several people with AV nades + AV weaponry. this is basic tank driving knowledge.

and this is your problem, all your posts indicate that you are one of those scrubs that do not know how to drive a tank and then whine that they get killed by several people at once.


you just dont know how to use a tank and all your posts are filled with misinformation. there is nothing to debate when your you put your head into your arse and suffer from tunnelvision

by attempting to make me look dumb,.

Proto swarms:
220Hp damage per missile X6= 1320HP damage per volley. That 3 times in a row is 3960HP damage without damage bonus against armor or damage mods nor proficency. and against armor a volley does still 1716HP damage. A full clip does 5148HP damage. And thats from a single swarmer alone on like 5-6 secs. And how much HP does your armor tank can get with just 3 low slots and the new modules?

looks like I was right, you are a CoD kid basing his opinions around kills, so your arguments are truly null and void. now the picture is complete.

and your assumption is wrong, I have more dust experience than you, I am here since the beginning of closed beta with several characters able to use proto gear. I am just not a no life CoD kid like you

and btw, I can assure you, the same same situation will happen that we had in close beta. I can safely assume FG will get a nerf too and sooner or later people will start to cry about tanks infesting FW and the amount of effort to take one down. there will again be alot of rage and again tanks will get nerfed and we return to status quo. I am calling it now.

you did that by yourself, mister CoD kid.

So anyone who disagrees with you is a cod kid? Well I'm sorry I don't type my posts Like a business proposal or excessively put stupid faces to try and validate my point.

No I hate cod with a passion and I'm 26, stats reflect performance so I base vpkayer ability by that, anyway you just keep tip toeing around everything I say and assume asbsolute rubbish.

So anyone who disagrees with you is a cod kid? Well I'm sorry I don't type my posts Like a business proposal or excessively put stupid faces to try and validate my point.

No I hate cod with a passion and I'm 26, stats reflect performance so I base vpkayer ability by that, anyway you just keep tip toeing around everything I say and assume asbsolute rubbish.

ROF is in time interval between shots. 60 divided by the decimal will give the rounds per minute.

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all your posts just indicate that you are butthurt cause you cant solo squads with your tanks.

and the fact that you base your opinion around kills made it apparent that I was right and that you fall under the category of a CoD kid that wants to run around killing everyone alone. this is not going to happen, welcome to new eden.

in short, what you do is not disagreeing but simply talking nonsense, we already covered that several posts ago. why do you repeat the same nonsense again? atleast be creative and post new one

I roll up to any tank and let of a volley of swarms then 3 hacked av nades followed by a last volley as they try to run

Why they don't just write 1200 for CR and 460 for RR????

Your calculation is off, it ignores the initial layer of shield reducing damage and doesnt account for the lowered clip sizes of swarms which reduces its overall damage
I also have to ask when was the last time you died from a militia swarm launcher? Because thats what these new ones will be at a PROTO level
2 shot clips like the militia and the exact same damage but only if all 6 missiles hit

all your posts just indicate that you are butthurt cause you cant solo squads with your tanks.

people even showed you how the changes will effect the gameplay doing calculations and your still in denial and the fact that you base your opinion around kills made it apparent that I was right and that you fall under the category of a CoD kid that wants to run around killing everyone alone. this is not going to happen, welcome to new eden.

in short, what you do is not disagreeing but simply talking about stuff that does not belong to dust, we already covered that several posts ago. why do you repeat the same nonsense again? atleast be creative and post new one

And what calculations where? From what if seen in dust the calculations don't account for random human behaviour and situational changes, they just account for static engagements that don't take a lot of factors of actual gameplay into account.

as everyone can see you still dont get it and you now just posted something against yourself without knowing it. that is what happens when you suffer from tunnelvision syndrome.

ok, because I am nice I will repeat it for you: announced changes show that it will take 23-30 seconds (depending on amount of damage mods) in an unrealistic combat scenario. that means in a real combat scenario it will most likely take half a minute or more of shooting to take down a tank with stacked dmg mods.

No I just didn't see that but thanks, you attitude is so rotten you have to be trolling.