wtf tank shuld b godmoed

Only to stupid enemies such as yourselfs who dont know how to use AV which you clearly dont know how to

I look forward to seeing your continued tears after AV is nerfed and you still get dominated.

Meaning new vehicles can not overtank old versions?

The Rail rifle will be much better at fighting over distance simply cause at range the Assault rifle does like 10HP per hit while you still do full damage with the rail rifle and murdering every 1. This is just going to be as popular as the TAC AR in the beginning where it was the none plus ultra. If you can outrange your enemy you basically won the firefight. And with the recent heavy usage of active scanners you cant really say that the 0.2 secs charge time is a handicap. People will just pre fire around corners to bridge the charge time. And you seem to forget that the rail rifle deals more damage per bullet which means that you need less to kill somebody and that saves you ammo.

Combat rifle
Based on the stats the burst and full auto have the same fire rate. evidently their is a .05 second delay between each shot even in the busts. We do not have a burst delay stat so, its hard to tell what its true fire rate is. mostly likely the same burst delay as the galente burst.

Therefore it will take .15 seconds to fire one burst which will do a total of 96 damage. If this is the case and their is a .1 second delay. 1 second the cambat rifle does 96 damage in .25seconds time * 4 = 384DPS.

If the CB rifle has a 384 DPS, then it will take it 2.86 seconds to kill a heavy. Which is pretty bad. considering minmintar about speed and power.

I am really worried the combat rilfe is going to be utter garbage. And join the ranks of all the other minmintar wepaonry. The only usable minmintar stuff in this game are locus grenades and smgs....

Dropsuit self heals

Its a tank, i know you want to be able to kill it with a militia AR with 1 bullet

Swarm nerf is once again, way too large, way too fast. I can see a damage nerf, but the lock-on nerf? That pretty much renders dropships invincible and non-removable, and the same goes for sniper tanks behind redlines.

Also, swarms got MAJOR buff early september (the rof increase with no penalties).

Former WikiHaHa clipsize = 5
Current WikiHaHa clipsize = 3

^ Penalty?

No penalty when it can fire more volleys at a faster ROF even when you include reload time

There seem to be a lot of concerns regarding the Rail Rifle, but in my perception the Rail Rifle looks like it is going to be the weakest of the four rifles.

Those 0.2 seconds charge up time make a huge difference and absolutely diminish the RRs usefulness in any close range fights. For example a Duvolle AR will be able to deliver 90+ damage before the RR even finished charging up and it can never catch up in damage output when fighting inside the ARs optimal range.
Outside of the ARs optimal range, the RR will certainly be a good weapon, but it probably won't stand a chance against an AR in close range fights.

The reason why the Tactical AR was so popular was not just its range, but the ability to be effective in close range fights too. That's the reason why CCP nerfed the hip-fire accuracy, ROF and clipsize of the TAR.

So they are making a long range Rail rifle and people are already whining it cant compete with a gun designed for close encounters?

If the new RR would be better at Close range or the same, wouldnt that just make it so the Blaster is useless?

The 0.2 second charge up time for the Rail Rifle is so significant that it can never catch up to the damage output of an AR.

As for the Laser Rifle, well, I guess we have to see how the Rail Rifle works in-game. You have to remember though that the Laser Rifle does not have any recoil no matter for how long you pull the trigger. I expect the Rail Rifle to have some form of recoil that also might increase over time and each time they release the trigger they have to charge up again. But if this is enough to balance the LR against the RR we'll have to see once we can actually use the new rifles.




The AR does more DPS than the RR. Due to the charge up time and a longer reload time the RR can never catch up on damage output.
For example in the first second after pulling the trigger the Duvolle AR will have dealt 467.5 damage while the Ishukone Assault RR will have dealt only 384.4 damage, all due to the charge up time.


Like I said before, here is a spreadsheet with stats of all rifles: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkgH4oyiFeUAdFpjQW0wRExKazF6empxY0R2Rm9iV3c&usp=sharing#gid=0

Nice. So now advanced and proto tanks can stomp harder. Brilliant move.

Just when you think CCP are getting things right.

At least assault is getting more weapons to kill us heavies with.

Lets see if they ruin the forge gun like they ruined the HMG.

respec on av now please

Hmm when was the last time we had a long range high damaging weapon which was fully auto? Oh yeah i remember now it was the pre nerf laser rifle. And the last time the argument with "its crap at close range" hasnt beeing accepted by the community. But ive still have a question if the combat rifle is a 3 round or 7 round burst. If it is 7 then i might spec into it. Loved the allotek AR with 7 round burst and then CCP decided to give it a 3 round burst.

Well that was over 1.5 mil sp wasted on swarms , nerf hammered just like everything else in this game.

BOO. ****ING. HOO. Now you'll need to be within render distance to completely murder a tank.

I know! I don't think CCP remembers that DPS needs to be sacrificed when you make a ranged weapon.

BOO. ****ING. HOO. Now you'll need to be within render distance to completely murder a tank.

Looks like I'm late to this party....as usual.

Anyway please CCP..consider this.....the health of logi lavs and HAVs. How could you put the hammer on AV nades and SL lock on distance? A LAV will be able to simply drive out of range before we will be able to lock on it. Even if we get one shot on it...logi lavs will eat that proto swarm launcher and keep it moving. Packed AV nades were a joke against lavs (especially logi lavs)...now you're making the proto av nade weaker than a current packed AV nade?? Where is the sense in that? I need you guys to play this game when you guys are considering nerfing things.

Have you guys played this game where a tank just sits on a hill (that you guys allow because of the design of these maps) and rails down on objectives? How will we be able to scare him off of the redline now? Now, you're making it so only heavies can attack vehicles...but what if there aren't any in the game? We will just have to die aimlessly then, huh?

I'd rather you give the tanks more health or more effective modules for survivability then to remove our only ways to defend ourselves. I mean, seriously.....proto AV nades 1000hp??? What will that do for tanks and lavs with armor and shield resistance? Some logi lavs still had shields after 3 Lai Dai Packed nades hit them....how will we defend ourselves against them now?

This is the only game where you have to go AV OR Assault. AV nades are going to be a joke against a good tank now and SLs just the same. But for assault class, the SL is our best defense and we can't even use a SL with our primary weapon....which leaves us vulnerable to infantry. It will require 3 or 4 assaults at the same time to take a tank out...and now, all the tanks have to do is run a few meters.

This is another bad idea, CCP...horrible, in fact. You guys don't ever compromise...it is always one extreme or the other. And that is terrible practice as far as balancing a game is concerned.