Hi guys,

ItGÇÖs time for some stats! Before you dive in to them let me remind you these are still a work in progress

First off there has been a fair bit of speculation surrounding the upcoming Combat Rifle and Rail Rifle. Speculate no more, for here are their current stats:

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65248/1/riflestats17.jpg[/img]

As a part of their introduction to the game we also plan to rejig the rifle range profiles in line with the weapon type. Rail Rifles are hybrid GÇô railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons, projectile weapons and then hybrid GÇô blaster weapons. In the chart below you can see how they stack up Vs one another:

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65234/1/rifleranges17.jpg[/img]

Lastly, as part of the ongoing vehicle work I can confirm we are also making changes to AV. So far weGÇÖve touched the AV Grenades and Swarm Launcher, we do also plan to look at the Forge Gun. These are the current numbers we are testing:

- Reduced AV grenade damage (STD: 1050 -> 725; ADV: 1260 -> 870; PRO: 1470->1015 )
- Reduced swarm launcher damage (330 -> 220)
- Reduced Swarm Launcher lock-on range from 400m to 175m

WeGÇÖre looking forward to hearing your feedback!

CCP Wolfman

This is somewhat alarming, actually... The Assault Rail Rifle outperforms -EVERYTHING- else in terms of Damage and Range. I don't see any reason to continue using the Assault Rifle when it doesn't even do what it's supposed to anymore: High damage in close quarters combat.

Comparable Level Assault Variant Rifles, in order from highest to lowest DPS:

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Feedback: the font on those charts... The 6s look like 8s.
Also, Combat Rifles look like they don't use much resources, even at prototype.

We don't have advanced and proto tanks, soz.

Get ******* good you idiot, Swarms are ezmode, locking onto any vehicle without an issues, with no countermeasures whatsoever.

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With this in mind ... YES! What this means is that more than likely it'll require a bit of teamwork to take out a well fit vehicle and the act of soloing a tank is going to be a much more difficult endeavor. THIS IS OKAY because Tanks will be in no way as dominant as they were in previous builds of the game because they'll have to keep ammo sufficiently supplied in order to be effective.

- Reduced Swarm Launcher lock-on range from 400m to 175m

Because they fire bullets rather than energy, laser or rail.

DS pilots should be wooting at this! Personally I wouldn't change the lock-on range.

why aren't you getting rid of the burst AR and TAR?

doesn't the rail and combat rifle make them obsolete?
Also weren't they place holders?

Plus now gallente get 4 guns, then ammar gets 2, minmatar gets 2, caldari get 2.

Blasters: Full-auto/Burst/Long range/Breach
Rail guns: Full-auto/Long range
Projectiles: Full-auto/Burst
Lasers: Full-auto/Charge

So you remove burst and Long range variants of the current weapon, and now every rave gets a automatic weapon, and a weapon based on their racial technology.

Also this would open up the breach for a serious buff. Cut the guns range in half, give it a huge damage increase and RoF nerf. It's a blaster, now that we have 4 racial types of the weapon you can balance them more effectively. !

I understand that. The SMG also fire bullets, but uses PG. Minmatar weapons use very little to no PG, but have a higher than average CPU usage. For targeting computers and such. The Combat rifle seems to use very little of either, for a comparable performance.

Well I was going to wait and see how the rail rifle's rof and .2 second charge up time will balance it out for cqc fights. As of now it does seem like the rail rifle plays like the op breach rifle back in the day.

Those numbers dont strike me as particularly odd.

We should stay cautious regarding the DPS stats as we all know the guns behavior is a major factor in how effective a gun is. Also, we dont have the accuracy rating for those new rifles. And we all know how the DPS from the machine gun seems appealing at first..

So yeah. Wait and see.

Those numbers dont strike me as particularly odd.

We should stay cautious regarding the DPS stats as we all know the guns behavior is a major factor in how effective a gun is. Also, we dont have the accuracy rating for those new rifles. And we all know how the DPS from the machine gun seems appealing at first..

So yeah. Wait and see.

That may be so, but let's look at the rail rifle. It has a very long range on it. If it's particularly inaccurate, it's not going to effective at that range. If it's accurate enough to take advantage of that range, it outperforms most other weapons.

That may be so, but let's look at the rail rifle. It has a very long range on it. If it's particularly inaccurate, it's not going to effective at that range. If it's accurate enough to take advantage of that range, it outperforms most other weapons.

So?

It has to be accurate to hit tiny moving targets.

Range = tiny.