Hi guys,

ItGÇÖs time for some stats! Before you dive in to them let me remind you these are still a work in progress

First off there has been a fair bit of speculation surrounding the upcoming Combat Rifle and Rail Rifle. Speculate no more, for here are their current stats:

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65248/1/riflestats17.jpg[/img]

As a part of their introduction to the game we also plan to rejig the rifle range profiles in line with the weapon type. Rail Rifles are hybrid GÇô railgun tech and are therefore the longest range weapons in the game, followed by laser weapons, projectile weapons and then hybrid GÇô blaster weapons. In the chart below you can see how they stack up Vs one another:

[img]http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/news.control/65234/1/rifleranges17.jpg[/img]

Lastly, as part of the ongoing vehicle work I can confirm we are also making changes to AV. So far weGÇÖve touched the AV Grenades and Swarm Launcher, we do also plan to look at the Forge Gun. These are the current numbers we are testing:

- Reduced AV grenade damage (STD: 1050 -> 725; ADV: 1260 -> 870; PRO: 1470->1015 )
- Reduced swarm launcher damage (330 -> 220)
- Reduced Swarm Launcher lock-on range from 400m to 175m

WeGÇÖre looking forward to hearing your feedback!

CCP Wolfman

why aren't you getting rid of the burst AR and TAR?

doesn't the rail and combat rifle make them obsolete?
Also weren't they place holders?

Plus now gallente get 4 guns, then ammar gets 2, minmatar gets 2, caldari get 2.

Blasters: Full-auto/Burst/Long range/Breach
Rail guns: Full-auto/Long range
Projectiles: Full-auto/Burst
Lasers: Full-auto/Charge

So you remove burst and Long range variants of the current weapon, and now every rave gets a automatic weapon, and a weapon based on their racial technology.

Also this would open up the breach for a serious buff. Cut the guns range in half, give it a huge damage increase and RoF nerf. It's a blaster, now that we have 4 racial types of the weapon you can balance them more effectively. !

So AR gets special treatment because it was there first? Remove the extra variants, and just have a respec.
The alternative is to give each race variants of every other race's rifle to be fair like CCP Remnant PROMISED but seemed to forgot and have not mentioned sense.

A promise is defined as a declaration of assurance, a claim of what will happen, to give good ground for expectation; I'd say a dev post saying something will happen is plenty good grounds to expect it. The word "promise" itself is not required for something to be a promise.
Why are you always doing this anyway? whenever someone tries to hold CCP to their word you have to swoop in and find loop holes.
I remember when you even claimed weapons, vehicle, and dropsuit racial variants were NEVER promised within 1 yr from Fanfest despite you yourself having been there. I had to link you the talk (Advancing the core) where they said they'll be out within 6 to 12 months of the time of that Fanfest. Speaking of which, I'm actually hopeful and optimistic that they will be able to keep that promise.

Did not know that, thanks for telling me.

Does that mean its no longer planned? I would really love a confirmation or at least a denial. The plan made a lot of sense.