Your saying... you would take milita gear into a PC/FW match? Or against a good team in a pub? wow. Dust is done

Bro militia and starter fits is all that I run.....all of the time.

How else can I keep a kdr of 1.6 to 2 and closeing fast on a billion isk?

You play a properly balanced, fair and fun class. Liking the class, you dump all 15 mill SP to your name into the class. Suddenly, new build/patch comes around and your class is nerfed without your consent and you now suck at the game.

Why a billion - serious question - for a personal achievement perhaps? As far as I can see hording ISK is in part breaking the RPG element of this game (as well as the lack of an mmo / open world experience, stuck in a 16 v 16 experience).

My fits are free and in the 1k to 3k range so the isk just keeps piling up.
And its fun to have enemies in advanced suits and even some protos see me in a militia or starter fit and the assume its an easy kill.

Plus with all the flaylocks, fused locus, invisible enemies and Charbydis murder taxis its less stressfull to die in a starter fit then when its a proto fit.

Plus folks keep telling me that its impossible to run militia and starter fits.
And I say really??

A good player can play well in any suit using any weapon. Get good

If you respec in order to try new things, people will just jump onto the FOTM and when it gets nerfed, they'll ask for another one. You'll never be satisfied with one respec, you'll keep wanting and expecting more. What happens when you respec into a class you were curious about and find out you don't enjoy it? "GIVE ME ANOTHER RESPEC!!!"

Variety is nice, and it doesn't take that much SP to try something new. Invest in core skills first, and learn to run in non proto gear for awhile.
My sympathies to those who don't know how to plan out their skills, and those who have their passions nerfed though.

Blame CCP for FOTM don't blame the players for that. We need respec option abaible at all times. Since CCP.is going to tweak this game to hell and back give us the option to respec out of what ever they break.

I'm just going to assume all of you guys that are opposed to a respec , never asked for one when uprising released, otherwise all of your rants of how respecs are bad are meaningless... So go ahead, lie and say you have never had a respec or asked for one..

I'm just going to assume all of you guys that are opposed to a respec , never asked for one when uprising released, otherwise all of your rants of how respecs are bad are meaningless... So go ahead, lie and say you have never had a respec or asked for one..

And yet you know that's BS. You know what happened with the skill tree itself prior to that request. And you know how that is very much different to what is happening with balance changes. To be honest I'd really prefer a system not be put in place that does it's best to amplify the magnitude game play effect an imbalance has.

Well then, cudos to you... Lets see if you feel the same way when you have to try to fit your calogi with the same equipment as other races with 40 less CPU, and im not refering to the Douvall rifle and 5 shield ext., Im talking about a core repair tool, an Ishkone nano, and an advanced injector, or maybe some droplinks... I could care less about the race bonus, but to give me a handicap of 40 CPU which by the way will be more like a 50 point handicap if you include the loss of 25% at proto lvl..

lol.

I Logi just fine in my Minmatar Logi.

lol.

Logis cant be logis anymore?

Sure you can, just not a caldari Logi, Those will become extinct and the suit will still be abused, people will just drop all of the equipment and use it as an assault... Like i said before, make game modes that are gear specific, then all you have are your core upgrades and skill.. I am by far not "great" at this game, but i hold my own and i play it for fun... Lately, the fun has been lacking and only frustration remains in its place..

Argue it however you want to, A respec is a respec... Why didnt you adapt or die then? All the newcomers came into the game with only 500k to allocate which could have been easily achieved in a weeks worth of play and would have still given you an unfair advantage against all newcomers.. So the question remains, Why didnt you just adapt and overcome?

Sure you can, just not a caldari Logi, Those will become extinct and the suit will still be abused, people will just drop all of the equipment and use it as an assault... Like i said before, make game modes that are gear specific, then all you have are your core upgrades and skill.. I am by far not "great" at this game, but i hold my own and i play it for fun... Lately, the fun has been lacking and only frustration remains in its place..

regulators leave no room for equipment and CPU modules are mandatory on every fit.
hes right to run regulators and cpu leaves no room for equipment and makes you a fake logi.
you literally cant fit sh*t on the suit anymore.
ill never run my logi equipment in pub matches again because it requires so much cost of survivability its not worth it whatsoever, so now my pub protologi is completely assault oriented.
yep. CCP turned them into assault suits.

PS. i thought it was funny and ironic, on his fit he had logi stuff pre nerf and just a nanohive post nerf.
hilarious because thats how my proto fits turned out.

There is no way to "adapt" to skill tree changes. Cal logis have the option to change their fits and chose between equipment or a assault like fit. Flaylock users can actually aim to take out targets. The skill tree on the other hand can't be adapted to when prerequisites are changed.

]I guess you just dont get it, so let me break it down for you.. When I speced into my Caldari Logistic suit, I knew full well there would be a "nerf" to this class, but i could not have foreseen a 50 point CPU hadicap compared to other Logistic suits. Ok, nerf my shields, they dont work worth a crap anyhow and I dont rely on them to keep me alive, However, i do rely on that CPU to carry the same equipment mods that other will now be able to carry without having to adjust their fits.. A logi supports the team, If i cant carry sufficient gear to fullfill that role, then my suit will then be rendered useless as a Logi.. Please explain how this doesnt change my skill tree..

While we are at it, Why dont we slow down those Minmatar shotgun scouts... I just cant seem to hit those guys..

So it will be great if you could respec out of your nerfed class and once again have the fun youve been lacking, and instead lack only the frustration of having a nerfed class. right? with a respec you could play a more viable class and have fun playing dust. right?

I have already found a way to have fun playing Dust but it too will soon be "NERFED"... I have a ball on my alt. Vehicular Genocide, running over protos with their Flaylocks in my 1 hit 1 kill logistic LAV mobile death dealer, Even my wife has joined in the fun and rides with me shooting A holes as we go with a scattered Ion Cannon.. Ever see my Jenny in a game, hit me up and ill take you for a ride, either in the gunners seat or on the front bumper, it doesnt matter much to me..

Your skill tree didn't change because, well, factually your skill tree didn't change. Your suit changed, nerfs have a tendency to do that, but you still have access to the same suits and no one else is getting them under a different set of rules or numbers than you are. Everyone using the Cal logi has the same set of decisions to make regarding how they use the suit. That wasn't the same with the skill tree change. With that change someone was getting to the same suit with a lower investment and still had to invest in the options with which people are now deciding on compromises.

Except mt cpu upgrades suddenly become more expensive then others, having to spend 1.6 million more to get to lvl 5 CPU upgrades to carry the same gear as others can at lvl 2 and 3... Yea thats no change at all..